/sci/ - Science & Math

>CS
not science or math

>>9762952
>>9762950
Picture related:
>Red is math, or requires math.
Get REKT.

>>9762976
Just cause I'm a contrary fuck, you study English cause all of those require you to know English and many are focused on teaching you new words.

>>9762950
Why the hate?

>>9762981
And?
>>9762952
Didn't say:
>Not related to English.
Nor did I say.
>Not related to English.
English, however, is the study of the English language, not the use of it, otherwise any interaction with be English and everyone could claim to study humanities, or linguistics.
Computer science actually involves the study of mathematics and is therefore directly related to mathematics.

>>9762981
Anyway, now I've countered your argument, let's appreciate how much of a retarded argument this was.
Holy fuck, you're a stupid motherfucker, ay?

>>9763004
>>9762996
The original argument was "is blank or requires blank". The extension made was to the English language because the classes either taught new parts of English or required English to learn. By denying this you are denying your own original argument, I was originally just being contrary for fun but you are reddit tier.

>>9763020
>Not understanding >>9762996
Try again, you have failed reading comprehension 101.
I'll make it simple.
Mathematics is the FORMAL STUDY of mathematics.
English is the FORMAL STUDY of English.
The application of mathematics, such as a carpenter might use isn't the FORMAL STUDY of mathematics, otherwise he'd be a mathematician.
The application of the English language, such as any person might do isn't the FORMAL STUDY of the English language, otherwise they'd be a linguist.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND? It isn't fucking difficult.

>>9763020
>By denying this you are denying your own original argument, I was originally just being contrary for fun but you are reddit
No, you're just a retard who thought he'd make a joke argument thinking it half valid, when it isn't valid at all.
You're just thoroughly stupid and apparently a full blown DK.

>>9762981
holy... i want more

>>9763028
classic sóyboy. anon you need more bean plant

>>9763042
>Not argument was detected upon this day.
I'm so woke I even take my water in a glass container, you /pol/ack beta bottom.

O B S E S S E D

>>9763046
>genuinely thinking I browse /pol/
Nah. I don't. I just think you like sóy. There are zero politics attributed to that statement.

>>9763050
The term "sóyboy", and its contraction "sóy", has an automatically politically charged semantic when used contextually in the [CURRENT YEAR].
Also, I don't think you understand how language works.

>>9763028
Well fuck it cause you asked. The number of commas used in >>9762996 is essentially criminal. You have 5 in one sentence, and what a sentence it is. "otherwise any interaction with be English and everyone could claim" is truly a gem, what could that even really mean? More so "Computer science actually involves the study of math" and is "directly related to mathematics". Well isn't learning syntax a very important part of CS? Also isn't it called a coding language? The study of languages is linguistics, and oh well look there now you are back to studying liberal arts. They may be different qualitatively but they share enough structures and the like to make sense.

>>9763060
You.
Like.
Sòy.
Accept it and grow up. I don't like you OK? I just don't. I don't do politics at all. I think you were to live with me and lap up sóymilk while dressing like a girl for me. Don't you?

>>9763061
>I attack the augmenter, this makes my argument valid.
>Well isn't learning syntax a very important part of CS? Also isn't it called a coding language? The study of languages is linguistics, and oh well look there now you are back to studying liberal arts.
Nice semantic argument, utilizing the wrong context.
You've literally argued nothing, but taken a bunch of shit out of context.
Also, long sentences are better than full stops, because a full top signals a LONG PAUSE when you're reading and I don't intend for the reader to have a LONG PAUSE then.

>>9763063
Lol, you're so fucking stupid I'd choke you in your sleep because you aren't even human and therefore lack any objective value in my eyes.
You're pure scum and I would enjoy snuffing out your so-called life.

>>9763075
*full stop

>>9763075
I attack your supposition that reading comprehension 101 is enough to disentangle the mess that are your posts. Tell me then how is a coding language is fundamentally different then a regular one? Both require precise grammar, both require structured arguments, both require specialized knowledge on the words and modifiers for them. I am glad you are aware of long pauses, but the more important aspect of periods is separation of ideas. As I pointed out there was several points in that sentence that do not make a full intelligible idea. Also why on earth do you think caps locking a word helps your point? It just makes you sound like an angry autist.

For someone studying linguistics you sure suck at writing.

>>9763088
>A singular sentence punctuated with commas is an entangled mess.
Lol, being this retarded. I guess you hate reading any literature pre-1900s.
>Tell me then how is a coding language is fundamentally different then a regular one?
Different computer languages are not like different natural languages. Natural languages have all more or less the same task: They are meant for communication between human beings, to help organize their everyday social life, to express feelings, needs, to offer things. To argue.
Computer languages, on the other hand, are more like different tools. They have different features, some are meant for specific hardware, some for specific operating systems, some for specific tasks.
>I am glad you are aware of long pauses, but the more important aspect of periods is separation of ideas.
They were not separate ideas and therefore this is a moot point.
>As I pointed out there was several points in that sentence that do not make a full intelligible idea.
Where exactly?
>Also why on earth do you think caps locking a word helps your point?
I was hoping it would act as a reinforcement within your mind as to which where the most important parts of the text.
>For someone studying linguistics you sure suck at writing.
I don't study linguistics?

FYI, you could make the same disingenuous argument about mathematics:
>The study of languages is linguistics, and oh well look there now you are back to studying liberal arts.
But I wont, because I understand the difference between a natural language, a computer language and mathematics.

>>9763094
There's a difference between using commas and various punctuation to convey a complex idea and producing a train wreck.
"otherwise any interaction with be English and everyone could claim to study humanities, or linguistics. "
Tell me on which planet this makes sense?

Lemme try something

Different natural languages are not like different computer languages. Computer languages have all more or less the same task: They are meant for communication between computer programs, to help organize their interaction and functions, to express outputs, inputs, to offer things. To make parameters.

Natural languages, on the other hand, are more like different tools. They have different features, some are meant for specific friend groups, some for specific countries, some for specific tasks.

Huh see how easy that was to sub in? It's like they aren't intrinsically different.

Finally yes you could make the same disingenuous argument about mathematics because the whole point is that using or studying a part of something doesn't make a field that thing. Just because I studied the kinetics of a chemical reaction doesn't make me a condensed phase physicist. Just because I use chemical reactions in biology doesn't make me a chemist. Just because I counted the number of pages in a book doesn't make me a mathematician. Computer science is a science but it's not because it uses math or science but because it involves a scientific process.

>>9763119
>The application of the English language, such as any person might do isn't the FORMAL STUDY of the English language, otherwise they'd be a linguist.
Isn't:
>"otherwise any interaction with be English and everyone could claim to study humanities, or linguistics. "
You are a sophist.
>Lemme try something
Please stop, I don't want you blaming me for your migraine.
>Different natural languages are not like different computer languages. Computer languages have all more or less the same task: They are meant for communication between computer programs, to help organize their interaction and functions, to express outputs, inputs, to offer things. To make parameters.
>He doesn't know what a compiler is and that the language outputted by the compiler isn't the language inputted by the programmer.
>Natural languages, on the other hand, are more like different tools. They have different features, some are meant for specific friend groups, some for specific countries, some for specific tasks.
Literal nonsense, the base functional of all natural languages is essentially the same.
>Huh see how easy that was to sub in? It's like they aren't intrinsically different.
No, all you wrote was a display of your ignorance and general nonsense train of thought.
>Finally yes you could make the same disingenuous argument about mathematics because the whole point is that using or studying a part of something doesn't make a field that thing.
I think you've forgotten from which position you are arguing, you truly are a contrarian sophist, although I think sophism requires a measure of executive function.
>[MORE BLABBERING GIBBERISH]
Go back, read that thread, I was the one defending the separation of fields.

How does it feel being so astoundingly cretinous?

>>9763136
You were not defending the separation of fields, you were defending an initial supposition that because CS uses math it is math, you even said the other person was BTFO. I was being a contrarian because your original argument was poor, the only reason I kept going is that it is really fun how angry you are getting.

The base function of natural languages and computer languages is identical. To transmit and process information, how is that so hard for you to get?

>>9763161
>You were not defending the separation of fields
Wrong: >>9763028
>you were defending an initial supposition that because CS uses math it is math
No, I wasn't calling CS math, you retard, I was saying it is related to math and therefore acceptable upon this board if it was discussing the mathematical/logical portion of the field.
>I was being a contrarian because your original argument was poor, the only reason I kept going is that it is really fun how angry you are getting.
The argument didn't start until post->>9762981, so that's probably projecting nonsense.
>The base function of natural languages and computer languages is identical.
Natural language:
>Human -> Natural language -> Human
Computer language:
>Human -> Computer language -> Compiler -> Machine language -> Computer
No.
You're still a sophist.

>>9763061
Moreso is one word Mister English Language.

>>9763161
Also, whilst I can still be bothered:
>otherwise any interaction with be English and everyone could claim to study humanities
Cleaned up:
>otherwise any interaction with the English and everyone could claim to study humanities
Oh look, it was a typo, all you had to do was change one word.
I guess your super powerful brain wasn't capable of that.
And what makes it more sophistic is that the same point was elucidated a post later: >>9763028
Once I noticed that it wasn't as clear as I'd have liked it to be.

>>9763193
> whilst

>>9763205
Fuck off, baka kisama. It's perfectly valid.
How about I bully you based upon sociolect or idiolect? Shall we?

>>9763205
>>9763193
>>9763185
>>9763183
You are just a gem aren't you? I hope to meet you again

>>9763213
Lol, acting all unaffected and virtuoso, whilst being nothing more than a shitstain and a dilettante.
Sure thing, buddy, sure thing.

>this thread
Jesus christ, get laid, faggots.

>>9763249
I have children, so no thank you.

>>9763063
dude, you got rekt. Take youre meme catchphrases to a different board.
Dont be a sheep and use lame trendy words.

>>9762950
Switching from EE to CS was the best decision of my life.

>>9763260
>I have children
Cats don't count you stupid millennial fuck.

>>9762981
I don't because I'm not English. Is logic your strong side?

>>9762976
So get a shitty applied math deegree, kek

>>9762950
>/g/ hates /v/
>/sci/ hates /g/
i wounder who hates /sci/

>>9764451

>>9764457
oh, so you're /v/?

>>9764451
>i wounder who hates /sci/
/lit/

>>9764149
>>9764152
>>9764156
>>9764157
lol

>>9762950
You fags are mad that I get paid 120k a year to copy paste from stackoverflow and literally can not work any day of the week I want, y'all scientists enjoy 40k a year culturing cells on the weekend lol

>>9762976
>7iv Learn personal grooming and hygiene

You autists actually have to study how to be hygienic?

>>9764157
kek

>>9764485
who hates /lit/?

>>9764149
>>9764152
>>9764156
>>9764157
ya gotta be joking

>>9765735
nobody knows about /lit/

>>9765735
/pol/ but they hate everyone

>>9764485
very true

>>9762976
Corrected version.

>>9762984
They hate us cause they anus

>>9765731
that's called dedication

>>9765731
Yes.

>>9764451
/pol/