/sci/ - Science & Math

You can't probably.

>>9723888
Watching this thread.
Currently at 1 year of NEETdom and would also like to know this

Work your ass off. Begin to use your brain. It's going to be uncomfortable, like going to the gym after being a fatass. Basically the same thing.
If you will it you can do it, with hard work.

Use your brain, learn new things. There won't be immediate changes but it will improve as you exercise it like any other muscle.

Take some community college classes. Absolutely insist on only getting A’s - which should be cake.

>>9723888
why do you want to change your ways now?

>>9723901
thanks for this. the gym analogy struck a chord

Oh, and try to motivate yourself. Otherwise you'll be in a hellhole of procrastination.

>>9723888
Majulah singapura my fellow singapoor

>>9723888
buy book, read, do exercises, repeat

I'm wondering this as well. I've been trying to crawl out of this after one year but I just can't, I feel basically brain dead at this point.

>>9723888
I read that the adult brain is quite active in neurogenesis but most brain cells die a few days after, this is avoidable if you are learning new things.

So start exercising and learning the guitar.

>>9723888
If you weren't idle in between the age of 9 to 21 years old

You can get most of your intelligence back in a couple of months by just using your brain, find something you like to exercise your brain on

Try new type of video games, play chess, learn astrophysics or neurology or wtvr, I've had this problem several times now

YouTube can really help if you know where to look, for example, mit and standford have lectures and interesting stuff available for free on there
(much easy er than you might expect)

>>9724210
but how do you get interested in them without zoning out?

>>9724210
>tfw just woke up from 6 years of profound idleness at the ripe age of 21

>>9724210
>do nothing for X years
>"learn astrophysics"

You do realize that it's an actual grad program right? You can't learn astrophysics without going through general physics first.

>>9724216
You don't

I had the same problem, the trick was just to try a hole bunch of different things until something was interesting enough that I wanted to keep reading without having to push myself to do that

I know a whole bunch of stuff about Neuroscience but at the same time I also binged doctor who

>>9724230
It's what I did with neurology and behavioural biology

Didn't seem that difficult to me
I had been doing basically nothing in the 3 years before I started that

Except getting told that I should do something and I didn't live in a hotel and such

>>9724230
D
It doesn't have to be astrophysics, I liked basic philosophy too

And me of 3 years ago liked minecraft too

>>9724235
I don't know about biology and neurology, but I do know that some texts don't require any previous knowledge on the subject, that's not the case with physics.

You literally can't read a grad tier textbook without first understanding most of the undergrad physics first, this might work only with some popsci books, which really won't teach you astrophysics just interesting trivia.

>>9724238
Maybe you'll find undergrad physics interesting?

If not, just try a bunch of other stuff

You don't have to finish it, just get your head back into shape

>>9724241
I'm not OP, just a physics grad student trying to point out that there is no 'royal' way to any kind of physics.

>>9723888
You don't actually lose it, not unless you are old.
What you forget are things like formulas, processes. You haven't lost brain power, you've just forgotten the methods of applying that brain power.
So the answer is simple. Review your shit.

>>9724238
I didn't know of any

But I gotta get back to work, maybe ltrz

You don't
t. 27 yo waking up from a 5 year mental plateau

>>9723888
You watch season 3 of rick and morty

>be me
>have not used brain since 2014
>open books called "basic mathematics" by serge lang
>read first chapter
>literally can't do first exercise

>>9723888
Those who had, retain. In all aspects of life.

>>9724341
wait till you get to the intuitive geometry part. everything seemed easy, or at least manageable so far, but I'm stumped almost every single exercise in this section. I dunno if it's more difficult than the rest of the book, or I'm just a brainlet for geometry

>>9724345
I already gave up and for a more appropriate book for a brainlet like me

>>9723888
Ex-business student here
Had a similar situation because of a meme degree that didn't require any studying or reasoning.
Now preparing for med school

Depending on your goals, you might want to test how much knowledge and thinking paradigms are retained after these years of inactivity. Try puzzles, small math and logic tests and see what's lacking.
From that point on, the only thing you can do is start small, plan towards your goal and gradially improve...

I found that this method is also applicable to reading books, and books are a great way to increase your brainpower (fiction especially).

>>9724341
Duh, what else would you expect?

Re learning is a Heck of a lot easy er than learning tough

>>9723901
>It's going to be uncomfortable

"Scientists say that studies show" the more difficult it is the more your brain structure physically changes (aka learns) and to adapt to the new demands put upon it. Just like a muscle, the brain physically changes to adapt to demand.

>>9724436
Yup,

That's when you're trying to learn, fortunately, just like sports, you can just find something you like

>>9724436
Yes doing harder work pays off, but if you start way above your level you are really wasting time because you will have big gaps in understanding. One should always be pushing just above their level of knowledge to really test the limits.

The only way is to get a job. Every other reply is ignorant.

Source: experience. More than two years of neetdom, much more.

>>9724546
It seems like ideally you should learn new information that your comfortable with but do very difficult practice problems.

I wonder tho, if the brain is physically changing does that mean there's recovery time, like in body building? How long/often should someone rest?

>>9724546
Stands to reason you should learn new information that your comfortable with or is slightly challenging but do very difficult practice problems.
I wonder tho, if the brain is physically changing does that mean there's recovery time, like in body building? How long/often should someone rest?

Quit porn.

>>9723888
Essentially you turn your brain On. You start to make evaluations, judgements: Is X true? Is Y false?

Just like strength training increases how many neurons are turned on for a muscle contraction along with the muscle cell volume filled with mitochondria, evaluations use forgotten neurons to produce synthesis from thesis and antithesis.

It's truly amazing.

See if you can geometrically divide a square side in three equal parts if you already know its length and half.

If you receive as much money as a current die side(the value of the roll), and you can throw it z times, can you see the way to play this game for maximized profit?

>>9723935
Been there and can confirm the gym analogy.
While most people think about physical activity and studying as opposites, in some aspects they can really be the same.

>>9724358
fellow brainlet here, which book would that be?

>>9724561
>The only way is to get a job
Great, how do I do that?

>>9725150
Apply for jobs, preferably a shitty one, just to get you going with minimal stress. Most neets are fast learners.

Helps if you're charismatic. Me, i was really really lucky.

>>9725127
Gelfand & Shen's Algebra, I realize I should just do the very basics.

>>9724561
I have successfully worked through all undergrad math material from textbooks myself not being a math major before going on masters in the field so no. Been neet for the time being but also worked for some other time in office job and also some other time in manual labor so you are wrong. proof by counterexample suffices to show that every other reply is not ignorant

>>9723888
step 1. fix sleep, diet, workout
step 2. be social, we are social animals and you'll slowly go insane without human contact
step 3:
stop procrastinating.
stop being addicted to only one activity (gaming, movies, TV)
variation is key

>>9725199
How is this a counter-example?

>>9723888
Video games. Don't play more than 1 month the same game or games that looks alike. Try to master each game you play.

>>9723888
The brain isn't a muscle, you don't lose IQ sitting around. You might however have lowered energy levels and for that you need to get moving.

>>9725227
I don't believe step 2

I've secluded myself for 3 years now with almost no other human contact aside from going to the grocery store every month and I haven't seen any actual effects of insanity
The only major difference is that I talk outloud to myself more and have a habit of checking my reflection in the mirror every couple of hours when I feel the need to pace around

Full of shit

>>9726694
>The only major difference is that I talk outloud to myself more and have a habit of checking my reflection in the mirror every couple of hours when I feel the need to pace around
Anon, i have gone through this phase, i would recommend to change this and find something that would give you regular social contact. Else, Soon you will start losing your general ability like maintaining a proper conversation, concentrating for long amount of times, having difficulty in performing your best for long amount of times in unknown environment.

>>9726719
Hmm
I can still do the conversation part I tried it to confirm
My concentration still stays the same, I've seen it grow overtime actually. I started off pretty low with a max of 3 hours, but now I can sit and work on a specific task for 9-10 hours unmoving

The unknown environment part actually does mess with me, I'm very used to the same routes and walls, having a sudden drastic change will most likely stress me out heavily

I dunno
I feel like if I'm this far in I want to see where it goes
I have enough money to go at this pace for 2 to 3 more years