/sci/ - Science & Math

>tiny electric suns

>>9669742
Pseudoscience belongs in >>>/x/

>>9669754
I've seen this movement evolve and evolve against all FUD and criticism

It's like watching the rise of bitcoin, it marches along despite all criticism

I wish I could invest in this shit

>>9669768
No, I think he's making fun of the fact that doesn't have any of the same properties as our Sun.

>>9669777
nice trips faggot

documentary talks about the similarities

>>9669784
>is hot
>mus is be Sun

> Plasma = Nuclear fusion

>>9669742
>electric sun

found the science journalist

>>9669742
Notice how the SAFIRE project is done in Canada? That's because it wouldn't be allowed in the U.S. due to national security. Real scientific energy research is dead in the U.S. unless you are a big multinational corporation. There are ways to access nuclear power of the atom with electromagnetism. This information has been scrubbed from history since the creation of the national security state.

The main secret they (status quo) want to keep away from the public is the fact that all atoms are externally powered by a subatomic plasma known as zeropoint energy. Aether model reflects subatomic plasma. All nuclear power is externally sourced. Tesla understood it very well and its the reason why his research remains classified at Los Alamos to this day. I am surprised the SAFIRE project is allowed to go this far without one of the military contractors infiltrating and sabotaging their research. I don't expect the status quo to ever give up their free energy technologies.

>>9669742
But what would happen if it collided with a SAFIRE made of ice?

>>9670643
Sounds legit.

uhm

>>9670643
Corrected:
>I don't expect the imbeciles to ever give up their free energy technologies.

Notice how the SAFIRE project isn't being done in Iran or North Korea? Much as they might like zero-point weaponry, they're too smart to fall for this shit.

>>9670651
FYI the U.S. military has their own army of Internet trolls that monitor and suppress information on the Internet. My claims are from a position of scientific knowledge. It is all testable and patents exist that use zeropoint at extremely minute energy levels. Inform yourself about Tesla's beliefs and aether model to see the truth! You are being lied to with propaganda such as relativism. All nuclear elements are externally powered!!

>>9669805
>the sun is powered by nuclear fusion

>>9670643
>>9670662
>FYI the U.S. military has their own army of Internet trolls
I take it you must be one of them.

Can someone please repdill me about this "electirc universe" stuff?
What is it about?

>>9670662
>Patents exist, this is evidence of something.

To secure a patent, you have to pay a fee and submit forms. At not point in the process do you have to prove to anybody that your device or process actually does anything or makes the slightest lick of sense. All they check is, did anybody patent it before you, and did the check you paid the fee with clear.

>>9670662
>FYI the U.S. military has their own army of Internet trolls

good one komrad. Now tell them about the time when Hillary paid off a porn star and asked a foreign nation to hack the election system.

P.S. have you noticed Putin smells strongly of cheese? WTF is with that?

>>9670687
Phlogiston waves are agitated by the constant upward acceleration of the flat Earth, causing them to collide with the luminiferous aether and form Cavorite, which makes a sun out of ice and a sun out of fir, which combine to form ultra super mega sun, a being of PURE EVIL AND ALSO PURE ELECTRICITY!!!!!

>>9670687
In modern astronomy, gravity is the dominant force of the universe. The electric universe model asserts it is electromagnetism that rules the cosmos. SAFIRE project is based on the electric universe and aether. Nikola Tesla would have sided with electric universe if he was alive today. Check out Thunderbolts Project for more information. The status quo doesn't want the public to know how the universe really works because there is an abundance of electrical energy everywhere! With real knowledge gained from the cosmos, it is possible to tap into free electrical currents ie. zeropoint.

One can do some amazing things with electromagnetism; such as burn noble gases. Tesla was able to burn nitrogen gas present in the air we breathe with high frequency electricity.

>>9669754
i like that pic
if we were in facebook i'd go like haha

>>9670716
So basically yet another free energy pile of nonsense. Gotcha.

>>9669742
Wow such science.

>>9669742

That's pretty incredible. They're doing research on the sun by making a sun

>>9670733
A certain amount of energy is required to start the reactions. Not really free energy but you can skim off the excess energy and that part is free.

Plasmas are an electric phenomenon. This means our sun is electric as well. The thermonuclear core at the center is B.S. All of the important interactions are on the liquid metal surface and plasma atmosphere.

>>9669742

>If cosmologies were stocks, I'd put all my money into Electric Universe / Plasma Cosmology

betting on literal pseudoscience, what could go wrong

>>9670747
Worked for bitcoin, you just have to get out at the right time.

>>9670745

>A certain amount of energy is required to start the reactions. Not really free energy but you can skim off the excess energy and that part is free.

Still free energy nonsense. Where is the useful energy coming from? "muh electric fields" is not an answer

>>9670733
A certain amount of energy is required to start the reactions. Not really free energy but you can skim off the excess energy and that part is free.

Plasmas are an electric phenomenon. This means our sun is electric as well. The fusion nuclear core at the center is B.S. All of the important interactions are on the liquid metal surface and plasma atmosphere.

>>9670716
that's not what EU is about at all.

>>9670733
don't listen to the other poster. EU is just a different cosmology that asserts electrical currents and electrical forces dominate phenomena in space.
eg, spiral arms are caused by the twisting of intergalactic plasma currents, quasars are plasmoids, stars are powered also-at least in part- by interstellar currents, nebulas comets and asteroids and are explained with an electric interaction and not the current model

>>9670751
>>9670752
What type of person deletes their own posts and then re-posts them?

>>9670748

"bitcoin" is not a hard scientific question with an objective answer

no parallels between cosmology and bitcoin

unless you think the validity of a cosmology depends on popularity among assorted internet brainlets and flat earthers

>>9670748
"SAFIRE generates the same energy densities as the sun’s photosphere and nuclear bombs …... in a laboratory on Earth"

They are succeeding where many others have failed. The electric universe and aether model lives on regardless of mainstream disinformation!

>>9670754
>rson deletes their own posts and then re-posts them

minor correction to post.

>>9670763
What type of person deletes their post to make a minor correction?

>>9670763
just go back to redit, then

>>9670766
autism does that to you

>>9670766
What kind of person keeps asking the same question while expecting a different answer?

>>9670770
What kind of person reads two different questions and thinks they are the same.

>>9670775
lol

>>9670751
>nse. Where is the useful energy coming from? "muh electric fields" is not an answer

Zeropoint energy from the vacuum/aether/quantum soup.

>>9670809
the energy comes from charge separation at the beginning of the universe

>>9670737

For everyone that doesn't believe in a shadow government: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQouKi7xDpM

>>9670716
>>9670752
Stop posting you retard. I am convinced that you're doing this to troll the plasma cosmology guys at this point.

>>9669742
I don't get it.
Is this supposed to be ironic or something?

>>9669777
Tell me what properties the sun has. (hint, it doesn't "burn" anything).

>>9670898
Which aspects do you disagree with? I am extremely familiar with SAFIRE and its historical background involving Birkeland. Aether modeling is just the beginning. Your lack of understanding is apparent.

>>9670847
there is no shadow government

>>9670919
Wait, you guys really DO believe n the aether? I was just fucking kidding a
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>>9670898

>I am convinced that you're doing this to troll the plasma cosmology guys at this point.

At least the nutjob is honest. Its not like "plasma cosmology" is any less of a pseudoscience than aether or stars powered by electric currents. Actual cosmologists take the properties of plasma into account. "Plasma cosmology" is just an internet fad.

>>9670900
Arr, take a gander won't ya? Double plasma layers, high energy discharges, ..:

"This cloud of ions got so dense it blew off into the chamber atmosphere. There was a pressure spike during these events. Even more importantly is that although we limited the power to only 1800 watts DC, the oscilloscopes measured a short lived power surge of over 2 million watts. At times, at over 10 million watts. To offer some perspective on this, the Bruce Nuclear power plant in Canada, the largest one we have, produces 7 million watts. " Montgomery Childs from the SAFIRE project, EU 2015 Conference, (8:13 minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFsTttzh0oA

>>9670937
The aether is an old term. Today, it would be called the quantum soup and it is full of NEUTRINOS. ..dumbass.

>>9670929
Aether was never disproved
>bb-but muh Michelson-Morely experiment
Disproving an incorrect hypothesis and rolling along with the outcome for years to come is not science.

>>9670813
>beginning
lol.
Also there's "Charge and discharge", not "separation of charges"

>>9670689
I wanna hear the one where buying a fake document about hookers pissing in hotels in Russia proves someone should not be president.

>>9669766
We still allow climate change thread here though.

>>9669768
Buy bismuth. Buy lots of it while it's cheap.

>>9670950
or "bloch wall" or "domain wall" or "quantum foam/glue" there are lots of renaming of the same goddamn thing. EU likes using "Aether" because it's old fashioned and implies a mystical omnipotence. Also it triggers GR and QM which is always a bonus.

>>9670937
I am the nutjob? The modern astronomy establishment has problems admitting the important role of electromagnetism. Do you want any chance at a prosperous future? Would you like an advanced technological society? If yes, stop listening to the assholes in charge that censor and limit scientific exploration in this area. Sometimes, I just wanna give up and let you have what you desire.. A fucking boot stomping on your face for the rest of eternity.

>>9669742
EU theory is as legit as it gets.

>>9670961
Why Bismuth?

>>9669742
Test

>>9670984
second this

>>9670984
Strongest diamagnetic substance. As rare as Gold despite being like $10 a pound. Figure it out...

>>9670967

Yes, you are the nutjob.

>The modern astronomy establishment has problems admitting the important role of electromagnetism.

Nope.

>Do you want any chance at a prosperous future?

Sure sounds like a religion. Promise of heaven based on a lie.

Bose-Einstein condensates have magnetic vortices on their surfaces like the dots OP's picture. the spacing of the vortices depends on irrational numbers, and it is an odd quantum phenomenon

>>9669742
Will this lead to effective gamma ray bombs?

>>9671021
>depends on irrational numbers

hmmmmmm

>>9671020
I will give you some slack. Not everyone is aware of how electrically active our Universe really is. Electricity is what makes modern civilization possible. With these facts in mind, I believe electricity should be free for everyone. The tech already exists. Call me whatever you want. Just remember, I will always have your back.

>>9671040
Actual cosmologists take the properties of plasma into account. However, I am very much aware of the activity of electric universe nonsense over the internet. Be assured that you are the cosmological equivalent of anti-vaxxers or flat earthers.

Pseudoscience belongs in >>>/x/

>>9671056

>Actual cosmologists take the properties of plasma into account.
hahahah (pic relevant).

It would take an act of god to make the establishment mention the 'E' word with any significance.

>>9671056
In case my former post went over your head...There is a reason why we call it electromagnetism and not electro/magnetism.

>>9669742
literally just making ball lightning, pretty but useless

>>9671078
you're a brainlet, special relativity perfectly showed how magnetism is caused by moving electric charges

>>9671093
>literally just making ball lightning, pretty but useless

"This cloud of ions got so dense it blew off into the chamber atmosphere. There was a pressure spike during these events. Even more importantly is that although we limited the power to only 1800 watts DC, the oscilloscopes measured a short lived power surge of over 2 million watts. At times, at over 10 million watts. To offer some perspective on this, the Bruce Nuclear power plant in Canada, the largest one we have, produces 7 million watts. " Montgomery Childs from the SAFIRE project, EU 2015 Conference, (8:13 minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFsTttzh0oA [Embed]

>>9670724
is nitrogen gas a noble gas?

...

we have hit peak civilization

If aether, EU and SAFIRE model holds true, it could mean that every atom behaves like an electric transformer that is connected into zeropoint energy. Just something to think about.

>>9671110
With electricity it is possible to extract water and make protein powder (food) from the atmosphere.

Ur fat and stupid science doesn't real

>>9671104
Nitrogen is an inert gas, not noble. Sorry, I had the PAP patent invention in mind.

>>9671104
Josef PAPP Noble Gas Engine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCsYgGcN6Fs

>>9669742
The first few seconds in the video i know its bullshit, "Same energy density of the sun, or nuclear bombs". The suns energy density is externally low, kg for kg you radiate more energy from your own metabolic waste heat than the sun generates in fusion. Yeah the sun will run for billions of years but the energy output at any given time per kg of stellar mass is really quite low compared to even biological outputs.

A nuclear bomb is just the opposite, a huge amount of output over a short amount of time.

So who ever is adding these captions to the video needs to be shot for being such a fucking retard.

>>9671187
>you radiate more energy from your own metabolic waste heat than the sun generates in fusion

>>9671021
Tufts are a plasma phenomenon. A subatomic plasma perhaps?

>>9670682
> Assumes I believe the sun is powered by nuclear fusion and misses my point completely
> Truly believes he is smart

>>9671038
what the fuck is this schizo shit

>>9669742
>They are literally creating tiny electric suns
The kid built this one.

>>9671104

This is weird. Yesterday, I had no problem finding Tesla's nitrogen burning information. Today, it is much more difficult on Google. Same browser, same system.

>>9671228
>Schizo
No, "incommensurable".

>>9671237

Our sun exhibits tufts and double plasma layers. Spectral emissions also indicate heavy elements such as iron, nickel and silicon. It is only logical to assume more heavy elements at the core due to strong gravity.

That plasma will never achieve these properties because the true core of our sun is not plasma! NASA would disagree with me but they are part of the military industrial complex. It is in their best interest to lie to the public. Think about it.

>>9671237
Helioseismology of the sun reflects hills and valleys. Very much like that of the anode tufts found in the SAFIRE project. Simply not possible with a chaotic nuclear core predicted in the standard model.

>>9670682

>>9669742
>Tiny Electric Suns.

>>9671197
>kg for kg

Nigger

>>9671335
You sir, made my day. lol.

Op, those round glowing balls are anode tufts that appear at high current densities. Just one indication that our Sun is also externally powered (by intergalactic currents) since it shares this behavior.

>>9671364

>>9671435
Real scientists follow the evidence.

>>9670775
This is now a meme

>>9671879
What type of person just declares things to be memes?

I am thinking about doing grad studies on plasma physics. I this a good idea or just a meme?

>>9671237
The kid built a Farnsworth fusor.
Kudos to him and it does fuse deuterium, but it's not an "electric sun".

>>9669742
Why not? Close out your bank accounts and invest it all in SAFIRE. A working fusion reactor would be a real moneymaker. If you have the courage of your convictions...

>>9671908
Plasma physics is real and there are jobs.
The Electric Universe is 100% bullshit!

>>9671116
I've been doing this for years
t. not a slave to the 'grid'

>>9671467
Random assertions from kooks are not evidence.

>>9671467
>i have no proof to disprove Einstein so lemme talk shit about it instead of being productive while i gamble my money out and get a boner from a pigeon

t. tesla

>>9669768
This is not reddit, stop using double spacing.

>>9671224
if the sun isn't powered by fusion then how do supernovas work

>>9669742

Some really shitty welds on that thing.

>>9669742
>the same energy density as the photoshpere of the sun

Doesn't sitting matter have as much energy density as the photosphere by dint of mass-energy equivalence tho

ok