/sci/ - Science & Math

This sounds exactly like my life. Also was posting heavy here 2012-2013. Only difference is things didn't get better however I joined an occult group and now have been given many promises to have an Elon Musk type of life. The promises were and are somewhat credible however, what I went through wasn't really worth it.

Glad to hear your life turned out better, hope you didn't sell your soul for a cheap price and you aren't racking up spirit debts.

Actually no, let me take that back, things did get better, but I'm still in my bitch moms house and I don't have any of the shit I was promised still only connections which I cannot turn into anything until my contract is over. However, I can confirm, they're big connections, I'm not exaggerating when I say a life like elon musk.

Cool blog
Gr8 chip on your shoulder

OP Here

tfw I found a 2012 shitpost I made when I was a dumb brainlet trying to get here

it's beautiful how obnoxious I am

>>/sci/thread/S4833437#p4833550

>>9652122
Good for you, but no offense, nobody cares.

>>9652199
I know you guys don't care, I just see so many cunts celebrating their little ahievements and I've worked so fucking hard I have no parents to be proud of me man. I don't want validation I just want to share it with some of the people who helped get me here

>>9652122
I'm happy for you, OP. Cheers

>>9652205
i care and i'm proud of you anon (assuming it's true). it's always going to strongly be effort that brings people to places and not genetics and environment (although it does help)

>>9652223
>>9652220
Thanks bros :)

I just feel so good about myself I'm crying looking back where I was. I was a wageslave working at a fucking grocery store and I knew this wasn't what I was destined to be

Honestly a lot of what drove my effort is the environment I came from, knowing I could not return from that. I had no comfy living, it was either success or sheer unrelenting failure

I'll be back when I'm selected for astronaut training, bros. Look out for me.

>>9652223
OP probably has a high genetic IQ. You don't get accepted into a Phd program at MIT by "working hard". His IQ must be at least over 120. (And probably over 130)

>>9652122
>this is a thing that happened

>>9652205
Its worth mentioning that /sci/ has turned into a pretty extreme shithole since 2012 even though it wasn't great back then.

If you have no one to be proud of you its not a problem. We actually sound like the same type of people who diverged on alternate paths. I worshipped objectivity to the most high extreme (partly because I was born into a rich family and they weren't going to let me off) and you worshipped objectivity for a while, later breaking free to seek admiration and validation in the world, this thread being a reflection of that. I wish you the best and pray you're not in any considerable debt. I paid all my debts off in one go but was it worth it? Only heaven can tell.

>>9652231
I'd say it's more work ethic. I distinctly remember being in grade 12, trying to look at grade 10/11 precalc (Sequences, algebra etc) and having a fucking breakdown because I didn't understand it.

Turns out it was because I didn't have the foundation and trying to jump ahead past prealgebra and algebra (which I never took). Khanacademy/PatrickJMT caught me up and math has been super intuitive ever since.

In highschool I pretty much escaped into runescape which I somehow managed to be one of the richest people in the game at one point (made about $30,000 from selling rs gold in grade 10 real world trading, of which my mom took most of it)

>>9652240
Learning to learn is a skill in itself, but work ethic is no substitute for intelligence.

Also making money off of runescape shows you had a good potential.

>>9652237
Yeah I'm aware, not that old /sci/ was any good really, there were just some helpful posters that looked past my adolescent stubbornness and gave me solid advice.

>>9652122
>Your move, brainlets. If I could do it, you've got no excuse.
You did good OP, but realize not everyone could simply do that. College is expensive, and supporting yourself while going to school is very difficult. Especially a grueling program like aero.

>>9652122

>>9652243
Maybe, it's hard to say I'm smart now because I've been literally surrounded by astronauts and rocket scientists every day for the past few years

>>9652248
I took out student loans. I am graduating with approximately $40,000 in debt. Median pay for aerospace eng is pretty good so I'm not worried. PhD is funded.

You inspire me OP.

>>9652122
good man

>>9652283
Don't let life comb you over bro, I was about to be swept under that rug. You've only got one life, make it count. Tick tock.

>>9652122
>>dad left when I was young, abusive single mom
So you're a nigger.

>>9652296
Half nigger, I don't claim it though

You're more privileged than anyone with a real mental illness or anyone with a debilitating physical illness. Things could have been a lot worse, even if you grew up in a wealthier home with caring (but bad) parents.

>>9652122
What was it like interning at SpaceX?

i followed a similar path, but i broke down due to schizophrenia after completing my undergraduate degree in electrical engineering. now i'm a perpetual neet.

>>9652122
I'm stuck at:
>do basic school shit
I can't get over my depression, any tips?

>>9652237
>>9652246
>Pic related.

>>9652154
Start respecting your mother and you will have an even better life.

>>9652122
Congratulations.

In your opinion, can intelligence be improved, or IQ is something static, an if intelligence acually can be improved, then, how would you do that?

>>9652375
yeah all the general threads we have now are utter shit
just because you started going on /sci/ at some point doesn't mean the quality has decreased
i've been here since 2014 and the quality has remained largely the same for me but maybe it's because i spend my time trying to make it better as in
>>9650405

>>9652122
I hate you. Good job. I hate you because you show how worthless and lazy I am

>>9652392
I've been here for longer than since 2015, 2015 was just the easiest catalog image to find (on archive.is).
I've been here since 2013.
Many boards have gotten shitter, but /sci/ is the most tragic of them all.

Jesus Christ, I was on the verge of getting it all or losing it all and one thing was missing. A last push to start the path towards getting it all, and this is what I needed. OP, whoever you are, where ever you are, know this:

You are changing lives not just locally, but internationally as well. I thank you.

>>9652397
aight bro then just keep on complaining and maybe the quality will magically increase from your complaints

>>9652404
It hasn't worked yet. But maybe, just maybe, it will.
In all seriousness, when I have more time to properly OP a thread, instead of just shitposting, I will. And godspeed to you.

If this is true I'm so happy for you OP I'm glad you're not a sadcunt

>>9652292
:,)

>>9652122

>>9652122
Yeah op I was,I was born with math skills like you

I'm >>9651372

I wish I was dead

>>9652122
Yeah op I wish,I was born with math skills like you

I'm >>9651372 →

I wish I was dead

>>9652122
Good for you anon! You earned everything and anyone with more than half a braincell would be proud of you.

>>9652122
>wake up

>>9652122
thanks for the wholesome ass hell post guy. awesome story and incredible job!

>>9652122
I’m so proud of you, OP. Continue to kick ass and show your bitchass parents what they missed out on.

>>9652122
dude if all this is real i fucking love you.

good shit, keep it up. proud of you man. we're all gonna make it

>>9652122

"The tree with its roots in hell is the tree that can reach the heavens."


https://youtu.be/vKBsVS2Puy0

>>9652122
wow you're the exact opposite of me
I feel bad but honestly man I can't help it, I'm a piece of shit

>>9652122
https://youtu.be/aKw5mbcE7VY

I'm happy for you OP.

>>9652205
i'm proud of you, anon
keep doing good work
just remember to stay humble in the face of your superior peers: the CHAD MATHEMATICIAN

>>9652303
kill yourself, faggot

>>9652303
Who hurt you anon?

>>9652122
Sounds like you had lower lows and higher highs than me, but I'm on my way too.

>FASD Mother; mild impairments, mostly behavioral, but still very sweet and surprisingly smart sometimes (her parents were geniuses so I guess she has some of it)
>Stereotypical retarded boomer Dad. He was basically /pol/ incarnate.
>Dad is also the sort who complains to his kids about how life is terrible
>Dad also contradicts everything learned at school because "indoctrination" etc.
>Mom is basically always working 2-3 jobs so she doesn't really know this is happening
>Dad was the sort of guy who only works 1 because "anxiety" and "stress". Also, a real manipulative fuck.
>I get paranoid about every voicing something he'd disagree with in my regular day-to-day because I'm afraid he'll disown me or harm me
>also all that shit about 'life is terrible' kills my soul
>all the other kids think I'm a fucking weird idiot
>I never work for anything because what's the point
>contemplate suicide frequently
>never get treated for depression which Doc (much later) confirms was pretty severe if my descriptions were true
>struggle in HS, basically just play videogames and drums in a band
>parents finally divorce but I'm living with dad because best job I can get is Target and both parents want me to have somewhere while I go to CC
>but I don't really give a shit and struggle with CC for years
>finally discover calc and realize that it's kinda fun. think maybe life isn't always terrible, maybe life is improved by people using math and science to make shit better
>fuck it, I'm going to study engineering. I'm gonna give it my all. I'll move out, take out some loans and study while on my own and it'll be an exciting experience and maybe I'll find some fulfillment
>oh whoops 2008 crisis. I hate my dad, but actually, turns out everyone hates my dad. Dad's afraid he's gonna end up homeless because he can't pay bills because job let him go.
(cont)

>>9652122

Be free.
See you. Space Cowboy.

https://youtu.be/0RuylPp-uUE

>>9652616
(cont)
>dad explains to me situation while in tears
>what fucking retarded world do we live in that I'd have to abandon this moron to do what I want to do
>rationalize it...well...maybe I wasn't going to be very good at it anyway...I mean my grades were never good
>and I can't be the last person to turn my back on him
>decide to work shit job for years, everything on hold, with the plan that things will recover and he'll be back on his feet. then maybe I can try.
>for 2 years fucker doesn't even apply for any jobs
>basically sits around playing videogames while I empty my savings and hate myself and am doing nothing
>oh turns out he's been suffering strokes and not telling anyone and was actually expecting to die and didn't have the courage to confront it or do anything
>oh
>not much long after, find him dead in his bed one morning
>what even is my life
>what is life
>why do I want to do anything if this is how everything ends
>can I even do it
>what have I ever accomplished in my entire life
>find Aubrey de Grey moron on TedTalk
>Wait what does this asshole think he's talking about
>okay, maybe
>maybe engineering is something I could do, but, what would my life be
>what would life be for everyone I care about
>just keep thinking about dead father's bloated face
>what could my life be if I chose to pursue something impossible
>neurodegenerative diseases, cancer, ageing are my life now
>absolutely fucking terrified, take intro bio and chem classes at CC
>obliterate the curve
>take more classes
>keep doing it
>apply to Uni
>skip ahead
>graduating this spring with honors in Biochemistry
>accepted to PhD program this fall at NYU

I don't think I'm all that smart or talented or anything. I just know what I want. I don't know if it'll amount to anything, but, I'm trying because I realized there's nothing else to do but work for what I believe in, no matter how brainlet I am.

at first I was rooting for you to be successful because you sounded like you were down on your luck, then I resented you for being more successful than me and wanted you to fail, then I felt good because you acknowledge my potential to succeed like yourself

>>9652122
I'm smart enough not to get baited by imaginary stories :)

>>9652650
Is it because of the discrepancy between him saying he had a mom then saying he never had parents to share good experiences with him? Because that can be explained by him running away or her dying...

>>9652644
re-reading this I realize I should maybe edit before I post.

Also maybe take a nap.

Whatever the point is I think OP is correct, every last one of you can get over your hurdles and reach your goals. Don't lose heart.

>>9652122
Fuck man, pretty much same thing here

The post sounds like fake news but nice green-text story, wholesome/10

>>9652122
How did you get the motivation to succeed? I've had a similar life but I feel extremely jaded and pessimistic towards the world. I have no motivations beyond survival.

>>9652122
If this story is real You OP are doing a great job. Continue to the path to success. Cheers.

>>9652122
Nice work

>>9652652
it's because it's a contrived load of bullshit, posted without a lick of evidence, and made in an inflammatory hostile manner- the trademark of someone desperate for (You)s

Please tell me this is real. I need the motivation. I'm in a similar situation, albeit much better and without the abusive parent.

I've always held the belief that pursuing this sort of engineering/scientific life would lead me to great things. Not necessarily because it may bring me "fame and gold", but rather to simply feel fulfilled. Inspiration comes from these sort of posts, a combination of movies and videos on the internet and people like Elon Musk. I came from a very uneducated ( filipino ) family. In my entire family tree line, not a single person has ever delved into anything scientific. In fact, excluding my sister and I, everyone dropped out of high school. Thankfully I'm in a much better position ( living in japan now ) to study.

Will true hard-work always trump any sort of good genetic or environmental factors? Hopefully yes. To anybody else here wanting to become great engineers and scientists, and is in a similar situation as a lot of us:

・Not very uneducated/smart due to a bad upbringing.
・Wants to become great at math, but is intimidated mainly due to lack of actually being good at it.

I hope that you all overcome these immense hurdles and truly become fulfilled as an outstanding human being propelling humanity forward. And mayhaps, we-- and by we, we random strangers on the internet meet each other in a brighter light.

>>9652686
Not OP, but a lot of it comes from maintaining a healthy mindset. I'd recommend Viktor Frankl's 'Mans Search for Meaning', it's a great short read.

>>9652820
>Will true hard-work always trump any sort of good genetic or environmental factors?
Not if you aspire to attend a top-of-the-line school or attend grad school/a PhD program, since they weed out the less able by maintaining high SAT/ACT/GPA requirements. A mediocre person could surely push themselves through a bachelor´s in civil engineering at a third-rate school, though.

>>9652148
O9a?

>>9652292
Congrats m8

>>9652820
>Will true hard-work always trump any sort of good genetic or environmental factors?
Of course not. How old are you?

>>9652122
tl;dr
whom are you quoting
cool blog retard
dumb frogposter

>>9652820
>Will true hard-work always trump any sort of good genetic or environmental factors?
A huge part of success is luck. A big part of this luck is being at the right time in the right place with the right people. I dropped out of high school and am in the second year of high school, what helped me most was that one manager in a company who accepted me for an internship despite a 2.0 GPA and all other kinds of red flags so I could go back to another school. OP also was kind of lucky to be in a place where people saw him as talented and not as another kid to smart for CC.

Hard work will help you getting more opportunities to get lucky and to grasp and not waste them, but a lot of people are hardworking and are stuck in shitty life situations or jobs because they never got the luck to use that hard work to advance their life.

>>9653258

I am absolutely aiming for the highest university I can here. ( Tokyo Uni ) No way I can become something great just by being 'good enough'.

>>9653501

18.

That came out a bit wrong. Environments do play a huge factor so using said hard work to inch yourself ever so slightly in a better 'place' to study is what I was trying to say. As you can't really learn much from bad materials or bad teachers.

>>9653516

Well then I guess in terms of luck and opportunity, compared to when I was living back at the philiphines, the odds are immensely better.

>>9652205
My mom died during my senior year of college. I took a job as a teacher to support my depressed father. C'est la vie.

Single mothers are worst

>>9652122
what movie is this?

I want to become a chemist/biologist and work in some remote laboratory of a strong country in the future

>>9653573
>No way I can become something great just by being 'good enough'.
You are what you are. It may be difficult to accept, but very few people can climb all ladders.

>tfw raised poor in the ghetto where we literally shared milk after eating cereal
At least you had milk you privileged cunt. I ate store brand coco pops with water every morning.

>>9652122
Great job anon!

>>9653501
You don't know what hard unrelenting work is.

>>9652298
That’s how you got all those internships. Haha jk OP very good work, you have a right to be proud.

>>9653741
Apply to India, they need more scientists
there. Plus the cost of living in smaller cities is not high

because i read posts:
free will exists:
if you were to chop off your hand you'd realize you are made of matter and thus you can never find quantum without destroying your senses, so every object is itself (though it can be broken down with energy)
you recognize that a=a, and that you exist, and another world DOESN'T, so you react to this world
free will

Good job anon!

>>9652314
Really hard. It's really easy to burnout. There are things like adderall and cocaine though that help a lot of people get through it. You really have to love it or you won't last.

>>9652364
Whatever you do stay off depression meds. Maybe take some time to yourself away from home and really really think about what you want to do. That's what did it for me, looking up at the stars I saw a way out of my depression. Hang in there, bro.

>>9652390
I'm a believer that success (similar to mine) is a function of hard work when you're beyond a certain threshold. I know of many respectable, talented people who aren't naturally smart or anything, take a long time to get things etc. but notice they have an amazing ability to ask questions and make aware the things they DON'T understand. This wins out over raw intelligence, most of the time. I would say if you don't think you're that smart, don't think about it anymore and know that beyond 110 pretty much you can do anything with enough hard work and humility. Several (paid) tests back when I shitposted all day put me at mid 130s, but I don't really think I'm that high. I don't think you can really improve your natural intelligence, though things that you may perceive as intelligence (someone understanding a math concept quickly) is really only related to how well you know the subject spatially, and thus can be trained.

>>9652399
That's awesome bro, godspeed.

>>9652464
>Born with math skills
>literally didnt know algebra until i watched khanacademy after i graduated (i was 19)

>>9652569
>tfw happen to be 6'2 and pretty good looking as well
we out here

>>9652686
It's hard dude, I've always had my direction toward the space industry set out in my mind, but things like girls, friends, politics etc always distract you. I've had mid-term slumps of poor grades just like everybody else, but I became more and more familiar with my ability to pull things together.

>>9652686
Spend some time alone and really think and re-examine your path and if it's really what you want. For me it was no question what I wanted to do, and for you I'd hope that you can find something similar. I know it's not easy and that I, in a way, am privileged in that I knew what I wanted to do and the direction I wanted to go in. All of my decisions (Becoming a pilot, getting off my ass and applying for internships - which believe me I was afraid of and almost DIDNT do) are weighed against that ultimate end goal.

>>9652820
>>9652820
If you're a smart guy, you need to know you're spending your life doing something important. Regardless of what it is. What does it matter if your family has never done anything scientific? My dad was in prison for 12 years and I am the first person in my entire extended family to graduate with any sort of degree whatsoever. My mother makes $16 an hour.

True hard work will always trump environmental factors, but you already know that. You're looking for someone else to do the work for you, well I'm sorry man I can't get you motivated. I used to get on and off motivation from youtube videos, feynman threads etc and let me tell you my friend it does not last. Truly reflect on what you want to do and what might make you happy, and make a fucking decision to execute. Not a one off "maybe one day" dream, but a dream you've written the fuck down how you're going to achieve. What specific actions are you going to take? How well do you need to perform at those actions to put yourself in the best position? Have you done the research to really see if this is the best route to take to your dream? Have you consulted others who may have followed a similar path, ask them humbly for coffee to pick their brain? These are all things I put hundreds of hours into making sure my foundation was concrete and to avoid my mind accumulating doubt.

"Not very uneducated/smart to do bad upbringing". I don't know what that means. You literally have the whole of civilizations knowledge in your fucking back pocket so don't give me that shit. If you aren't reading textbooks months before the start of a class you NEED to ace to transfer into the school or program you want, you do not want it bad enough. Don't compare yourself to those around you, you have to have an identity different from the herd.

I may be going to Japan this summer before I start grad school this fall.