/sci/ - Science & Math

>not doing physical ed.
easy af get paid the same as the math teachers.

>>9649441

Give them a little bit of statistics while you're at it. So many people have zero knowledge of this, even in university maths courses.

>>9649441
Just teach the class and actually take feedback from the students. Every math teacher I had in highschool was complete fucking garbage, and didn't even know half their shit. A moron teaching a moron isn't going to get a kid anywhere. But in your case your intelligent, so just try your best to make it liveable, and help the kids get good grades. Also, invite students to the math club who don't get good grades it will really help them out. (Also don't pull kids out to tell them they're failing and shit, that's just a fucking asshole move.) say something like "Hey, you're not doing so great but you have (insert one of their strengths here if they have any) and I would like you to come join the math club." Just try your best dude. and I know you're going to do a great job.

Just teach them Lebesgue integration. That's how I got laid.

>>9649441
Is Spivak too much for high school students? If you teach them how to do basic proofs/very stripped down logic first, and then hold their hand throughout the book I think it could work. It's AP so the kids actually care about math right?

Just be super strict, like Saturday schools if they miss one assignment. You need to run this shit like a new Reich. Remember, the higher the discipline the fewer your opponents worthy of competing with you.

Just bump it up a notch and convince the principal to let you have a select class of only MATH all day everyday and train them night and day to become the smartest math geniuses in the country.

But hey, math isn't even real anyway.

>>9649507
They should've never banned the cane imo.

>>9649492
good advice, thanks

>>9649498
i was thinking horseshoe integration

>>9649503
thats what i was thinking. it wouldve helped me in my undergrad to already have had experience with proofs

>>9649514
Yeah I don't think it's right that students' first exposure to proofs is in first year undergrad. If anything it gives them a taste of real math, and helps them decide whether they might want to major in it when they actually get to uni. If they don't like it, but enjoy computations well hey they know they've got a career path as an engineer. Win-win.

Just demonstrate your enthusiasm for math, show interest in students, relate to modern times with math.... this will inspire some students to take more interest into the subject. Best teachers and professors I had, understood the students struggle with work, study, social responsibiliies, ect. And showed their enthusiasm as well as making topics interesting to the class. It may not show development in the students at first, but planting the seed of mathematics in them will eventually grow.

Also, if that's you in the picture, teenage boys will be quite distracted in "other things" to pay attention. My one math teacher had a banner in class " math is not a spectator sport", meaning you need to put the time to do the work and not just observe the work being done. So give them some interesting, and challenging homework. This might help the guys who can't think straight when in class.

>>9649441
power rule
power rule backwards
integral/derivative tables
max/min of a function curve
integrate force over a surface
two trains accelerating
...fuck it they will have to be educators themselves or some kind of theoretical researcher to actually ever need more than that

most people i meet are hard pressed to solve 10=2*X

>>9649441
>teaching the AP calculus courses,
Sound like you should teach whatever is on the AP Calc tests. After the AP tests are over just have a list of topics and ask the kids which one they want to learn

>>9649441
Numerical methods + a little bit of stats. Bonus points for using matlab or numpy.

>>9649441
>I dont need to keep the material brainlet tier
>in an American high school
you’re gonna be disappointed my man

>>9649575
>math is not a spectator sport
I know a CommColl instructor who says that to his students nearly every class meeting.

Math is a tool. I don’t understand why math is taught from such an abstract at the high school to college level. Only engineering courses in college and experience in my career made me have any kind of passion for the subject.

>>9649732
>Abstract
>High school, college

teach them about how the holocaust is a lie using basic calculus

>>9649732
>math is a tool.
>hate abstraction
>engineer

>>9649732
Math is really not rigorous or abstract at all in high school and this is coming from an American engineering student.

>>9649514
It's empirical you teach them proofs imho. Maybe strip it down starting with basic set theory and propositional logic and work your way from there. Giving them a huge logical-mathematical background and specifically focusing on how to read, understand, structure and make proofs will be of great benefit to them, whatever they do later in life. You def gotta introduce formal maths and, more importantly, rigurous thinking!

>>9649923
lol you're right, math is empirical, that's why you have to teach these kids with real world examples instead of pointless silly proofs.

>>9649732
>abstract

>>9649939
>pointless silly proofs
This is an unfathomable level of brainlet
Having a rigorous thought framework can only be beneficial, and it can benefit literally anyone.

>>9649441
teach them competition math, and force them to complete in the olympiad

If proofs are so useful, name 10 advances that improved human lives where the proof preceded the discovery and/or invention.

>protip: you literally can't

>>9649441
Teach them applications. Show some real world problems solved by math.

Hey what do you think of some numberphile kind of content.
You probably wont have the time but if you want to interest them in math just find a good numberphile video and talk about that, or just show it to them.
Things like surreal numbers can be fascination even without (or maybe even especially without) understanding it well

Does your shithole country not have a curriculum to teach?
>Look at the curriculum
>Teach the curriculum
There you go senpai

>>9650081
The Universal Turing Machine and the computer

>>9650538
>trying to inspire love of mathematics
>teach them about numbers
Either they'll get turned off because number theory is shit or they'll start loving numbers and be very disappointed when they study maths and don't write a single number for years

>>9649732
>Math is a tool.
You're a tool!

Show them proofs and how and why things were discovered rather than just playing with formulas.

>>9649441
>basic proofs and logic
this or basic abstract algebra. that's what got me interested in mathematics, unfortunately long after I completed my education

>>9649441
What is the name of the club? If it's Mu Alpha Theta then you should not be teaching them proofs, logic, or numerical methods in the club. Mu Alpha Theta is a competitive quantitative math club that competes with other teams, not anything to do with pure math.

>>9649441
call them little faggots and give the senior girls your special sauce when the get an A on their tests

>>9649441
>What should I teach high school seniors?
That they can ride dick for an A*.

>>9649441
Buy abacuses for the class. Supposedly they help math ability.

>>9649732
>abstract
High School maths is all about basic concepts that any brainlet must know. You can't even call it complex

Papa Rudin

>>9649732
it's literally the opposite. math at the high school to college level is about remembering which rule to plug in for a given problem. every theorem is just pulled out of the ass without proving it or explaining why, there's absolutely no thinking in abstractions. putting emphasis on calculation instead of abstractions and proofs during engineering courses is also stupid as fuck, because everyone will just use a computer IRL and forget this shit after a few months

>>9650885
But that's wrong. 10 left to go.

>>9649441
>Ill be teaching the AP classes so I dont need to keep the material brainlet tier.

This sort of attitude is pretty terrible for a teacher to exhibit, just letting you know. Some of your students may be a little rusty or behind in algebra, and it's your responsibility as a teacher to understand everyone is coming from a slightly different background. Don't call people "Brainlets" just because they haven't received the same education as you.

>>9649441
>itt actual spergs
Jesus Christ, just teach them some basic applicable shit, how to calculate an interest on a loan, basic probability theory so they don't lose their money gambling, shit like that. God knows that nobody else is teaching them that

>>9654466
t. diagnoseable sperg.

It's AP CALCULUS they likely already fucking know all of that or can easily self teach/figure it out when needed. Holy shit, man.

>>9649441
Read Lockhart's Lament

>>9649491
That's what AP stats is for sweetie pie :)

>>9654126
No. They are brainlets until proven otherwise. Don't listen to this weenie op.

>>9649675
x=5

>>9649827
lie groups are too advanced for high school you peasant

>>9649923
>>9649953
>thinking high schoolers taking AP calculus aren't just doing it so they can maximize their chances of getting into a good university
u guys have been out of high school for too long

>>9649441
If you really think any high school student is going to enjoy what you have to offer and teach them other than the brainlets who sit in the front of the class and will try to argue with you every other second, you might aswell save yourself the trouble and go try to teach as professor honestly.

>>9655824

this. high school students are complete assholes.

the US public education system is fucked beyond repair. I'd say teach in private schools, but from what I hear, they're not much better off

>move to Texas
>get oil maths job
>make six figures

Why are you wasting time in a High School?

>>9656873
Because he has a conscience.

>>9656879
>not supporting the driver of America's economy

>>9656885
>Supporting the destruction of the vital ecosystem that keeps us alive and can't recreate yet because we don't yet have the technology.

>>9656888
>the Texas desert is a vital ecosystem

>>9656891
>Implying it is only concentrated in Texas.

>>9650572
The AP calc course is already laid out. I don't know what OP's trying to do here.

>>9656897
>muh alaskan beach
>muh north dakota ice
>muh middle eastern sand
>muh fishes

>>9656891
>>9656917
Also:
>Desert.
>Dust storm.
>Dust causes precipitation.
>Precipitation washes nutrition into the ocean.
>Feeds oxygen producing creatures.
>Causes a bloom and huge release of oxygen.
>Not vital.

>Destroy fisheries.
>Unbalances ocean ecosystem, because sharks go extinct.
>Reefs get overgrazed.
>Decrease in oxygen production.

>Supports releasing chemicals into the atmosphere that make the seas acidic, killing the oxygen producing algae and bleaches the oxygen producing reefs.

You're so smart, senpai.

>>9656931
>believing is pseudoscientific, leftist propoganda

>>9656939
>Lol, get's BTFO and can't find an actual rebuttal.
You don't belong here, senpai, go home: >>>/pol/catalog

>>9649514
>>9649887
It is abstract in a sense that you do your abstract excresises get good abstract grades but nothing gets built.

Nothing real gets built. Doesn't matter if they will somehow use some part of the knowledge to built something in the future because at that very moment it's abstract, it's all abstract. Maze maze maze go down or I'll push you mice.

>>9649503
what the fuck, spivak it's even hard when you are starting college. You can go with other books to start the students on logic. You can go with Calculus by Tom Apostol and try to be very patience. Not everyone in highschool wants to study math.