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Containment thread for engineers and all engineering related questions. Haven't seen one of these so decided to make it we can wing it.
To get things started:
>student or already in the workforce?
>level of education?
>discipline?
>current projects?
>anything interesting?

>> No.9620287

>engineering
not science or math

>> No.9620321

>>9620285
If I'm 20 and a computer science student is it worth it changing to mechanical engineering? in terms of job opportunities and pay.

>> No.9620339

>>9620287
>implying it isn't applied science and math

>> No.9620371

>>9620285
>working for govt research lab
>PhD
>ECE
>avionics
>yeah but i can't reveal my power level here

>>9620287
cry harder

>>9620321
saw you in the other thread. you will be fine in either, pick whichever you think is more interesting. if you just want money go into finance or some shit. what are you goals

>> No.9620387

>>9620371
How many times have you had to relocate if at all? I want to go into the govt aerospace field, but gf is pretty set in living in CA.

>> No.9620395

>>9620387
just once when i graduated and got my job. there are plenty of aerospace jobs in san diego and LA

>> No.9620415

>>9620285

>student or already in the workforce?
work
>level of education?
bsc in EE
>discipline?
I'm a trainwreck
>current projects?
overseeing construction of a public hospital
>anything interesting?
doctors (especially the old guard) are some of the most pretentious people I've men in my entire life

>> No.9620429

>>9620415
>doctors (especially the old guard) are some of the most pretentious people I've men in my entire life
how so

>> No.9620438

>>9620429

I go to a lot of coordination meetings where they're present (because they represent the investors and clients) and they meddle in things they have no clue about but will persistently try to force their (often clueless) opinions to be the lasting decision. I'm sure they're great surgeons but you really shouldn't act like you have any kind of authority when discussing optic network infrastructure or acting like you know how much degrees of compensation should a system have. I literally heard two doctors telling each other after a meeting "if peasants can do this when should be able to learn it in a few weeks". Which would be fine and dandy if it were true but they just induce facepalming whenever they're talking during meetings.

>> No.9620452

>>9620287
Engineering is literally applied science and math (all branches).

>> No.9620556

>>9620371
Is aerospace a finnicky industry?

>> No.9620566

Why are all my engineering math classes so handwavy? Going to an engineering school was a mistake

>> No.9620581

>>9620566

Handwavy in what sense?

>> No.9620595

>>9620581
In that they don't have proofs or even explain why things are true and say lol just memorize the formula :^). This why engineering is a cancer ridiculed on /sci/

>> No.9620614

>>9620595

What? You're confusing what actually is being taught with how most people study.

>> No.9620666

>>9620566
>Going to an engineering school was a mistake
Indeed it was. You should´ve studied actual engineering at university, instead of taking the brainlet way out by attending a glorified vocational college.

>> No.9620694

>>9620666
it is a university

>> No.9620697

>>9620614
>>9620581
they're teaching how to use formulas instead of how/why they work

>> No.9620711
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9620711

>>9620595
Nothing stops you from looking up proofs yourself silly nigger.

>>9620581
The math involved in deriving them is far too advanced for a semester course. So they just explain the high level idea, maybe include some simpler proofs / proof sketches to present some intuition, and move on from there. OP is a faggot who hasn't yet realized there's a reason every course label in his curriculum starts with the words "Intro to..."

>> No.9620721

>>9620711
bullshit, they should teach analysis instead of calulus in post high-school education

>> No.9620748

>>9620697

They teach you how and why. You have to know why it works if you're planning to implement it.

>>9620711

Dunno, I distinctly remember professors showing the proof for every major formula and doing it during lecture, especially in later, more theoretical, classes. The only difference being it's mainly not required to know the proof by heart but they always recommend to arrive by it yourself at home to better understand what you're doing.

>> No.9620758

>>9620748
>They teach you how and why.
No, they teach you HOW TO USE formulas.
It's more like training than teaching

>> No.9620765

>>9620758

It's definitely not just how to use formulas but I see there's no point in talking with you. Bye.

>> No.9620769

>>9620748
>Dunno, I distinctly remember professors showing the proof for every major formula and doing it during lecture, especially in later, more theoretical, classes.
In my classes they went over the absolute most important derivations, but left a lot to look up on our own. Too many of them would just be a waste of lecture time; not only because of length, but because of complexity. Truly comprehension involves reading, rereading, thinking deeply, and then thinking some more. Running through them in a lecture would be in one ear, out the other for >90% of students.

>> No.9620784

>>9620711
Yeah, I do math. Why don't you try to proof something, stupid dog. Proving is working. Don't just read a proof, do it yourself or you will remain a dumb nigger. Show me the proof that sqrt(2) is irrational. Don't look it up, just do it. This is kindergarten stuff. If you can't even do that than get back to your intro to proofs course.

This is why I hate engineers they think they know it all, but know nothing. Dunning kruger to the max.

>> No.9620788

>>9620769
Yes, and this why engineers shouldn't prentend to be scientist of mathematicians!

>> No.9620796

>>9620784

>This is why I hate engineers they think they know it all, but know nothing. Dunning kruger to the max.

The only person acting like that here is you lol.

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9620806

>tfw Engineers will be replaced by AI in the near future
can't wait

>> No.9620836

>>9620796
Nice argument! Can't engineers even make rational arguments? lmao

>> No.9620840

>>9620285
What's the most/least useful branches of mathematics in Engineering?

t. Maths major

>> No.9620852

>student or already in the workforce?
Student.
>level of education?
Master's Student.
>discipline?
Mechanical Engineering.
>current projects?
Modeling biofluids.
>anything interesting?
Nope.

After 5 years of education, I still feel like a retard with no real life skills.

>> No.9620901

>>9620784
>just took babby analysis 1 so I feel like I can shit on engies who know more math than me: the post

>> No.9620950

>>9620901
>implying engies know more than differential equations

>> No.9621042

>>9620836

It's not an argument, it's an observation.

>> No.9621255

>>9620285
>student or already in the workforce?
student
>level of education?
end of first year
>discipline?
electrical
>current projects?
trying to grasp vector analysis. nothing on my free time
>anything interesting?
shit is hard but im looking forward to the robotics master..
>t. obvious brainlet
>>9620287
>implying engineers dont learn as much, if not more maths and science than science students
>>9620595
your school is shit or your proffs are bad. Every concept is proven in my classes all the time, math or scientific. Its never just "memorize this"
>>9620806
meme

>> No.9621314

>>9620796
>>9620901
The absolute state of engineering. Can't even prove the easiest theorem. Yet they think they can do math. Lmao. I'm done arguing, but I'm not done laughing. Haha, why don't you just stop embarrasing yourselves and get back to redd*t where you belong? Leave math to the mathematicians and science to the scientists and leave /sci/. Or do I have to explain with a picture?

>> No.9621319

>>9621042
Yes and it is a stupid observation, befitting of an engineer. Lmao. You guys can't even save yourselves from your own posts!

>> No.9621324

>>9621042
But I do like you're not being buttblasted and have a good time. This one is fun, you can stay.

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Math fags get OUT

>> No.9621379

>>9621352
not until you learn real math

>> No.9621397

>>9620806
>Implying that AI will be made by pure mathematicians and not a single engineer.
>Implying that AI won't replace also scientists hahahahahahah kronk

>> No.9621440

>>9620556
what the fuck does that mean

>>9620595
because if they wasted the whole class doing proofs you would never learn any engineering

>>9620784
>Dunning kruger to the max
you are projecting. you have absolutely no idea how the computer you are using works. stop being so pretentious

>>9621314
cringe/10. how embarrassing

>> No.9621461

>>9621352
engineering is a proper subset of mathematics :^)

>> No.9621473

>>9621440
>what the fuck does that mean
I mean is it a stable industry to be employed in? I heard people expect massive layoffs during recessions.

>> No.9621682

>>9621440
Lel, keep coming with the cheap shots with no arguments. Try to write a proof yet? I'd recommend it.
>>9621352
Lol butthurt

>> No.9621695

>>9621440
Oh and btw, I in fact do know how this device works.(double majored in CS+math, you see. Although CS was more like a minor wrt to math) Up to the logical gates, lower than that is for the Physicists and electrical engineers.

If you want to impress me, try again. As I said, you think you know all when you know nothing. Learn some respect!

>> No.9621803

>>9621695
Why are you shitting up the thread

>> No.9621880

>>9621803
Maybe he feels miserable.

>> No.9621885

>>9621880
I mean, imagine being a person which notion of self-worth derives from the amount of hours you put into studying X subject.

wow.

>> No.9621887

>>9620285
>student or already in the workforce?
Student
>level of education?
3rd year
>discipline?
Not sure yet. Maybe power or signal processing
>current projects?
Gonna try to make a monophonic square wave keyboard/synthesizer using push buttons to open branches with different impedances to control the output frequency of a 555 timer hooked up to a speaker
>anything interesting?
Should be interesting trying to get good at tweaking the tones that come out to be in tune. Can use pots on each button for fine tuning

>> No.9621890

>>9621887
Forgot to mention, but EE. Should be obvious

>> No.9621893

Uh who here has one of those white hats they make you wear?

>> No.9621926

>>9620840
most useful is calc or linear algebra

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>>9620285
>student or already in the workforce?
student, trying to get an internship
>level of education?
in the fifth of ten semesters
>discipline?
electrical engineering
>current projects?
none, but I may help to found a robotics club, also I want to start building small electronic devices for practice
>anything interesting?
loving the course so far, but we are only getting into electrical engineering focused subjects now (there were two courses in digital electronics before, but only that)
not sure which field I want to specialize in, I want to use this year and the next one to decide. So far a liked everything with exception electrical installations.

>> No.9622023

>>9620285
>>student or already in the workforce?
Work
>>level of education?
BSME
>>discipline?
Automation engineering
>>current projects?
Robot cell for demilitarizing bombs, precision powder dispensing, and chem lab conveyor line

>> No.9622081

>>9621473
honestly i'm not too sure. i work for the govt so there is more job security, but maybe its something to be more worried about if you're a contractor. just stay on top of your game though and you should remain employable

>>9621682
that was my first post to you. try to understand the technology you depend on yet? i'd recommend it

>>9621695
getting more cringey by the post m8. you don't understand shit. which you actually admit here
>lower than that is for the Physicists and electrical engineers.

>>9621803
trying to convince himself that he's smart

>> No.9622142

>>9621893
that's exclusively reserved for maths majors.

>> No.9622189

>>9620285
Professional. Finished my BSEE in May, had a job offer in September, was dropped before I even started when I was denied an interim security clearance, and after a desperate search just got a couple offers last week. Feels good.

>> No.9622243

>>9622189
why did you get denied clearance?

>> No.9622266
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9622266

I was offered an internship at NASA GRC recently and have been having a hard time deciding on if I am going to take it or not. The reality is I have 12 unfilled NASA applications into projects I'd rather work on at locations I'd rather live at. The position isn't totally irrelevant to my interests, it's just not directly aligned with my career goals (think software vs aerospace engineering), and the other positions I applied to put me in a much better position for getting into the masters labs I want to work in. I have not heard anything from any of them yet and I believe it's still around the time the centers are making first contact with candidates (submitted all within the past month). This will be my last internship before I apply for graduate schools and I'm lacking in relevant, directly aerospace engineering experience.

This position I was offered wasn't something I applied to either, nor something I would have spent one of my 15 applications on. I was just sent an email via OSSI asking if I wanted to do it. The experience it provides related to my career goals is minor, but not insignificant.

I think I'm fairly qualified, with a few big name internships under my belt, my gut is telling me this could be one of my biggest regrets if I got an offer for another position, but I would also have massive regret if I got nothing NASA related in the end and didn't get any of the positions.

Any advice for what I should do? I don't have very long to accept or decline.

>> No.9622267

>>9622243
No idea. I was only denied the interim, and the company didn't want to wait for the regular clearance. No idea why and they won't say why with the interim. I don't have massive debt, I had two uses of marijuana ever, both more than 6 months previous, and I had a single instance of ritalin misuse (over my prescribed amount).

>> No.9622283

>>9622266
in the long term you should probably just get your foot in the door and you will have chances to transfer later

>> No.9622286

>>9622283
Foot in the door? It's an internship at a center that doesn't do anything I'm interested in, any networking I'd be doing at GRC would be with people I will never see again, realistically.

>> No.9622299

>>9620721
Why? Calculus has more applications than analysis and if you teach analysis then people who many not consider a future in math are then forced to go through semesters of shit that really isn't applicable to them. A lot of undergrads go into university not knowing what they want to do. Having them learn a class that's a lot more niche than calculus doesn't really make sense from an efficiency stand point.

>> No.9622300

>>9622286
i meant that getting a job with NASA would be getting your foot in the door. the internship could lead to a job. then you can transfer. in the govt in general, not just NASA, getting in is the hard part. transferring is not as hard

>> No.9622319

>>9622300
Getting into NASA is not that hard. There are hundreds and hundreds of summer interns, and only 1-2% end up full time. I don't necessarily want to work at NASA full time either. I just want relevant experience.

>> No.9622330

>>9622319
>Getting into NASA is not that hard
depends on your standard i guess
>There are hundreds and hundreds of summer interns, and only 1-2% end up full time
that does make it sound kinda hard though
>I don't necessarily want to work at NASA full time either. I just want relevant experience.
I dunno man. it sounds like you have the quals but not the connections. are you an undergrad? go to grad school and study with a professor who has connections

>> No.9622334

>>9622330
Bro you're making all these giant leaps and not understanding what I'm saying

The school(s) I want to get into pretty much require me to have relevant aerospace engineering experience to get in. This NASA position would be more software, with a touch of aerospace.

>> No.9622346

>>9622334
>The school(s) I want to get into pretty much require me to have relevant aerospace engineering experience to get in
grad schools don't really have requirements for internships. they look at research exp and letters of rec

>> No.9622424

>>9621803
You think I'm bad? Look at /math/ sometime, now that's bad. It seems you still mistake my disdain for megalomany. But I've had my fun. I'll leave you non-scientist and non-mathematicians.

>> No.9622428

>>9622081
Lolwat? What exactly do you claim I don't understand? Try me.

>> No.9622437

>>9622428
Let's start with reading comprehension

>> No.9622459
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9622459

i've read that mechanical engineering is very broad in what it covers and has a lot of carry over to other kinds of engineering. how accurate of a statement is that?

please don't bully me, i just wanna get my life on track.

>> No.9622493

>>9622437
Well then, why don't you teach me "wise master"?

>> No.9622495

>>9622437
Oh, now I see. Didn't read the green bit as I had written here. At least I know what I don't know, unlike you!

>> No.9622500

>>9622493
Check out the sticky
>>9622495
Clearly not

>> No.9622507

>>9622459
reasonably accurate.
chemicals and civils are specialized versions of mechanical. Mechanical overlaps with electrical only in control systems. Aerospace = Mechanical, just about. nearly all bio-engineering jobs are held by dudes with degrees in mechanical.


>t. B.S. Mech Eng.

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What's your guys' average day consist of? What type of programs do you use? How often do you work together with others to make shit? Preferable answers from guys with jobs in engineering but interested in students as well.

>> No.9622635

Am I going to a shitty university or is this normal?
I got into mechatronics and thought that I would be simply studying physics, math and programming. But two weeks in I realized that virtually every class was about working in a team, reading bullshit all the time and doing shitty expositions. I suck when it comes to being around people, speaking in public and reading.
Are engineers nowadays really supposed to do all that boring shit?
Is software engineering, comp sci or systems engineering any better in that regard?
Does an autistic faggot like me even have a chance of getting a bachelors in engineering?

>> No.9622643

>>9622635
Kinda sounds like it. I studied physics, maths, programming and a group orientated class in my first year.

>> No.9622706

>>9622635
Also in mechatronics
Never have to deal with people except in labs and the one big design project we have to do
But Im also not a clapper

>> No.9622795

>>9622507
when you say bio-eng, does that also include biomedical engineering? also, was it difficult getting a BS in mechanical engineering?

>> No.9622810

>>student or already in the workforce?
Work
>>level of education?
Bachelor
>>discipline?
ChemE/Metallurgy
>>current projects?
Working on optimising grinding pulp chemistry when milling oxidised ore. Pretty much done, will likely save the mine $800k+ in lost copper annually.
>>anything interesting?
Always interesting projects going on in mines, pretty much every department has some sort of project they're working on (EE, enviros, mechs, mining engineers etc). Get to work alongside almost all types of engineers so I'm always learning.
Plus the mining industry pays graduate engineers like $125k+ straight out of uni with an equal time roster.

>> No.9623226

Who deals with alternative energies more, Chemical or Mechanical engineers?

>> No.9623535

>>9623226
Mechanical

>> No.9623544

>>9622635
In my experience is just the first year, they do it so autistic people make friends and groups.

>> No.9623577

>>9622635
My intro to EE and Comp Sci was like this. The projects were group projects and the first three weeks of class were all about working as a team effectively.

>> No.9624176

>>9623535
interesting, what about biofuels, and biomaterials?

>> No.9624426

>>9620287
I'm an chem engineer and some of my classmates have no regard for the material, just plug n chug. I went back to school to learn, I feel like I'm in the aisles of the hardware section of Walmart. I need a shower

>> No.9624431

>>9624426
ChemE seems like a mixed bag, it looks like there's a lot of interesting topics in it, but at the same time stuff like pulp/paper, and process engineering sounds mind numbing.

>> No.9624449

what kind of job prospects are there for someone with an associate of science with an engineering field of study? i'm getting a B.S. minimum, but in the mean time i was wondering what kind of positions someone who had at least that much could apply for.

>> No.9624508

>>9620784
I think a lot of engineers would rather do something useful with their time

>> No.9624515

>>9622810
Where are you located?

>> No.9624516

>>9621255
I'm a robotics masters
It's nowhere near as cool as you think

Just a fuckin
Huge
Amount of kalman filters and statistics
Embedded programming is hell

>> No.9624518

>>9621379
Useless endeavour

>> No.9624523

>>9621890
>>9621887
Sounds pretty cool actually

Like an analogue instrument from scratch

>> No.9624526

>>9624515

Queensland, Australia.

>> No.9624533

>>9622266
Go NASA mate, you have time to handle the switch out later and the name itself will help you land a gig anywhere

>> No.9624540

>>9622459
Mechanical is just the mechanics of how shit works
It's basically modelling
If you end up doing courses in transport phenomena near the end you'll see how they've managed to model and equate nearly every single physical process with one another
You can equate the drag on a water droplet with pressure inside a gun barrel

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>>9624449
please respond

>> No.9624599

>>9624449

You'd be limited to technician roles, like draftsmen etc.
So basically anything that anyone with no degree can do in an engineering field.

>> No.9624605

>>9624540
Sounds pretty cool.

>> No.9624609

>>9620339
>>9620452
applied science and math is not the same as science and math
by that logic electricians are physicists and pharmacy workers are biochemists

>> No.9624647

Is Industrial Systems engineering a bad choice? Just kind of picked a discipline for my first year.

>> No.9624684

>>9624599
it would at least look good on a resume and have some carry over for bachelors/post bachelors endeavors, wouldn't it?

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>>9620784
>Proving is working
Yes, that's why I told you to go do some fucking work.
>Show me the proof that sqrt(2) is irrational
Not doing your intro to proofs homework for you, anon.
>This is why I hate engineers they think they know it all, but know nothing. Dunning kruger to the max
Yeah, I'm showing all the signs of dunning kruger: looking things up in outside sources, studying on my own outside of class, and encouraging others to do the same.

>> No.9624795

>>9624684
If you're applying for actual engineering roles after you graduate with a bachelor then no.

>> No.9625181

To make a long story short I went to community college with the goal of transferring as a mechanical engineer completed all the prereqs but because of some stupid reasons and because I was gonna be at cc for 1 more year I switched to CS instead.

Now I'm transferring as a CS major. I guess now I'm having regrets. My fears with ME where that it would be difficult to find work after. Another fear initially is that it would be much more difficult then CS hence me switching to the easier major. Problem being I'm not good at programming and the uni I'm going to seems to be very work intensive for programming projects.

Honestly, I think I'm just feeling that the grass is greener on the other side. But when I was on the ME route that's how I felt towards CS. Is it difficult to find work with ME or will CS always be easier for finding work with better pay? Are engineering jobs flooded right now? Doesn't help I did all the prereqs so I feel I did all that work for nothing...

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>>9625181
>My fears with ME where that it would be difficult to find work after.

it's literally THE "any job i want" major ya goof ball.

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>>9620339
>Cooking is applied chemistry

>> No.9625277

>>9625214
I know, I get that next to CS its the most employable major but I fear that those jobs might not pay as good as CS.

What I meant is I fear I might not find high paying work. Basically where I live software jobs dominate.

>> No.9625408

>>9625277
>pursuing a job primarily for the pay

huge mistake. STEM fields in general will command great pay anyway, but if you're letting the possibility of a few extra grand a year sway your career path, you'll quickly come to regret it.

besides, if you just want easy, abundant money above all, then ditch the brainiac shit and start hookin' and/or strippin'.

>> No.9625491

>>9621314
thats some Top-tier cringe right there

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>>9625224
nice non sequitur you stupid retard. still pissed because you can't even land a job scooping up dog shit with your lame little "math" degree?

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>>9620285
>student or already in the workforce?
Demotivated student failing courses left and right.
>level of education?
See above.
>discipline?
Nanotech.
>current projects?
Procrastination, giving up without even trying, failing courses I would pass easily if I could just muster the will to apply myself.
>anything interesting?
No.

>> No.9625684

>>9620285
>student
>finishing 3rd year
>ChemE major, NucE Concentration, Mathematical Sciences minor
>currently negotiating a summer internship at Oak Ridge National Lab
>"Thank you for your interest in the position, while you have a great resume, we have decided to choose someone else for the position" is a terrible meme and I'm sick of it

>> No.9625685

>>9625672
Same here but I haven't let myself fail any classes yet they're too easy for that
>t. 2nd semester cc student

>> No.9625819

>>9620285
>basic middle school algebra in the OP
>engineering general
It checks out

>> No.9625828

>>9624516
>Embedded programming is hell
Kys

>> No.9626581

>>9625672
Waterloo?

>> No.9626598

What's the best engineering career to take if I want to master in NuclearEng?

>> No.9626603

>>9626598
Industrial.

>> No.9626653

>>9624744
Listen. It seems you still don't comprehend. Engineering is nice and all, a non-trivial profession. However it is neither science nor math. So wtf are you doing on /sci/? Apart from replying to me like madmen desparate to prove their existance, I've seen some talk about school and work. Where's the science? Where's the math? Get out. This board is clearly not for you. All right. Time to get back to analysing elliptic PDE's and the finite element method using Sobolyev spaces. (intro to analysis course, lmao. I surely hope you at least had one)

>> No.9626808

>>9625408
The difference where I live could be 10k or more. So its not like its a small difference and money is a huge factor in my career choice.

I find CS interesting. I just feel CS is something I could self teach. But then I start to think that if I want to do something like AI or machine learning self teaching might not be able to cut it. It feels like self teaching only applies to simple programming and web dev stuff. The more complicated things like machine learning, networks, operating systems, architecture, compilers etc. feel like things most people who are self taught don't know. Not to say its impossible to learn, but its very less likely and that will always put me in a disadvantage against someone that had a formal CS education.

I guess a better question is can an ME degree get me here or will it instead simply put me in traditional engineering jobs with a huge disadvantage and learning curve on those better paying CS jobs? I do like ME but its just not my only interest.

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9626825

>>9626653
t. math sperg who feels jilted by BIG DICK ENGINEERS because his shitty little "math" degree can't even land him a job cleaning up farm animal shit and is perpetually mad because women hear about engineers and get turned on physically and intellectually while hearing about "mathematicians" is total pussy repellent

this general is for winners who use practical, functional math and science, not little faggots who turn into captain autism and talk about their gay little theories that nobody gives a shit about. fuck off, dweeb.

>> No.9626858

>>9620566
yes. its because engineering is empirical as fuck.

>> No.9626878

>>9620840
>most useful
NUMERICAL FUCKING METHODS

>least useful
pretty much everything else

very few of the problems you are going to solve as an engineer can be solved analytically. and fuck it, you already built some custom trapezoid method in excel anyways, might as well use it for the easy shit too just because spectral accuracy is fun to say.

>> No.9627048

>>9620285
I recently added biological engineering as a double major, my first being chemical engineering. It will take an extra year. Is it worth it? also what am I in for?

>> No.9627055

>>9627048
>Is it worth it?
no
>what am I in for?
wasting time and money when you could have just gotten a masters instead.

>> No.9627144

>>9627048
what are you hoping to accomplish by taking bio eng and chem eng as a double major?

>> No.9627153

Chemical or Mechanical Engineering?

>> No.9627236

>>9627153
im in the same position lol

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>>9627153
I chose mechanical but I never even considered chem.
>be me in chem beginning of this semester
>teacher makes us state our name and major in front of class
>I say my name and say I'm majoring in mechanical engineering
>the teacher says "ah, mech eng"
>I thought he said "chem eng"
>"no mechanical"
>notice my autism and just sit down
Sorry for the /r9k/ and /b/ tier green text you just made me remember

>> No.9627441

>>9626653
>talking shit on /sci/ when you're an undergrad pleb
cringe

>> No.9627469

so EEs have the option to specialize where i'm getting my degree

specializations include: RF, power systems, among others. im thinking about choosing RF but someone i know says RF is the hardest one. but someone else i know says RF specialization is in demand.

>> No.9627483

>>9621695
>cs+math
So you're a brainlet that pretends to do math

>> No.9627484

>>9620285
>student or already in the workforce?
Postgrad
>level of education?
MEng
>discipline?
Chemical
>current projects?
>anything interesting?
Almost posted my website then chickened out. I think my research is very interesting, but I want fix up all the documentation before I start shilling my software.

>> No.9627485

>>9626825
Well then "winner", I do hope your stupid brain can understand that you don't beling here if all you're willing to talk about is this "winning", work and school.

Do note that you have neither claimed to talk math or science in this thread. So again, why are you on /sci/ ?

>>9627441
Functional analysis up to Sobolyev is undergrad? Where?

>> No.9627488

>>9627483
No, a mathematician with a hobby. Nearly all CS courses are trivial when you know math. (Stuff like comp networks with their "memorise thes protocols" bullshit isn't but theyre a minority.)

>> No.9627492

>>9627153
i would get a mech eng degree personally

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>>9627485
LMAO the pissed off math sperg is STILL chimping out because his shitty little "math" degree has a professional ceiling that goes no higher than adding up the daily receipts at the local gay dive bar.

holy shit, what a totally obsessed, jealous moron.

>> No.9627499

>>9622810
that sounds comfy, are the hourd brutal?

>> No.9627500

>>9627499
hours*

>> No.9627509

>>9627485
>Where?
Engineering electives actually. Basic applied functional analysis is taught in control engineering courses, many good engineering programmes allow for electives in proper functional analysis for future control theory researchers.

>> No.9627512

>>9627485
why are you even in the thread? you enjoy trolling yourself?

>> No.9627521

>>9627469
How many electives are you allowed? If you have many then maybe just try out an RF class and see if you like it. And have you taken the basic EE Emag couse yet? That is usually the intro course into RF at my uni and others Ive seen. RF is definitely a good specialization for jobs as so many things in the world use some sort of wireless communication, and those systems rely on RF typically. Until RF communications dies out you should have some type of job

>> No.9627770

What do engineers do?
>inb4 they engineer

>> No.9627785

>>9627770
I design manifolds, tanks, control systems. Then I supervise the installation of said manifolds, tanks, and control systems. Then I make those manifolds, tanks, and control systems work. Then I train the electricians.

>> No.9627951

>>9627484
What's your research in?
>>9627492
Why though? I'm really freaking out over this since I don't know which one I want to personally major in.

>> No.9628095

>>9627512
People keep replying and talking shit. So basically, yes. I mean, it is obvious you're not going to talk about science or math but insist this belongs on /sci/, somehow. Idgaf, but that doesn't mean I can't stay for the bantz.

>> No.9628166

>>9624176
>biofuels
>biomaterials
Still mechanical.
Chemical engineers deal with the processes.
It's the mechanical engineers who come up with the cool applications and projects.

>> No.9628177

>>9626653
>analysing elliptic PDE's and the finite element method
That's literally mechanical engineers do every day to solve Heat Transfer and stress and strain problems.

>> No.9628192

>>9622556
I've used Matlab for most of my group projects, Solidworks, Star CCM+ in school but I've also heard of workplaces using Ansys

>> No.9628242

>>9627951
>What's your research in?
Derivative free optimization.

>> No.9628275

>>9628166
Wait how? In my school MechE don't take any classes on that stuff, only ChemE's deal with it.

>> No.9628299

>>9628166
It's both. At our university our materials research groups are mostly filled with chemical.

Both bio and batteries etc.

>> No.9628305

>>9620285
>student or already in the workforce?
Both
>level of education?
MSc
>discipline?
CE
>current projects?
Teaching, writing yet another paper, sucking cocks so that paper gets published
>anything interesting?
Lockheed hired me for position without clearance (i'm not even burger) and then transfered me to a team that works on classified bullshit. Not having access to most of the documentation, i'm getting paid for basically working on my (unrelated) paper.

>> No.9628315

>>9628305
CompE or ChemE?

>> No.9628319

>>9628315
Could be CivilE

>> No.9628322

>>9620285
Guys I need help please. I am in my last semester of my Mechanical Engineering degree and planning to do graduate study next. So far, I had been working with two professors getting a sense of what they do in their labs. First professor is in my department and works in multiscale materials modeling and simulations. The other one is in EE
and works in computational nano-devices. I like both options and both professors so far seem to be willing to accept me as a masters candidate but I can't for the life of me decide what I should do. I tried to ask the second professor for some advice and he basically told me to decide asap and commit or to fuck off. So I'm thinking of joining his lab. My question is: Is it good/bad doing your bachelors in ME and masters in EE? What are the job prospects out there for someone who did work on simulating nano-devices? Prof. basically wants me to take a project on developing adaptive mesh refinement for bridging density functional theory with coarse-grained continuum transport for non-equilibrium calculations. What do /sci/?

>> No.9628334

>>9628315
>>9628319
Computer engineering

>> No.9628372

>>9628322
>My question is: Is it good/bad doing your bachelors in ME and masters in EE?
Doesn't matter. Research engineers tend to work on inter-disciplinary projects anyway.

There is no such thing as an accredited postgraduate degree. Your undergrad will determine your ultimate licensure.

>What are the job prospects out there for someone who did work on simulating nano-devices?
You will have to aim for academia and it will be extremely competative.

>Prof. basically wants me to take a project on developing adaptive mesh refinement for bridging density functional theory with coarse-grained continuum transport for non-equilibrium calculations.
This has already been done...I guess I don't really understand what he wants.

>> No.9628376

Was thinking of doing materials science for grad school (from physics BS), but how much programming is involved in the field, industry wise? I dont hate coding but honestly I would just not want to do it everyday at my job

>> No.9628378

>>9628376
Material science has plenty of lab rat work. You don't need any programming at all on most projects. Really depends on how theoretical the group is though.

>> No.9628448

>student or already in the workforce?
Student
>level of education?
Graduating Senior
>discipline?
Chemical Engineer
>current projects?
Coal to methanol gasification
>anything interesting?

>> No.9629648

>>9627951
>Why though? I'm really freaking out over this since I don't know which one I want to personally major in.

A chemical engineer can earn good money but you're more limited as to where you can work. Generally chemical engineers will work around the coasts if you work with plastics/petroleum because obviously no one ships crude oil to the middle of the country to be processed. Although there are obviously many different career paths for chem engineers outside of petro.

I would be a mechanical engineer because there are always going to be jobs for them to do. But either one is a good choice imo.

>> No.9629668

>>9629648
I thought ChemE's in process usually work in bum fuck middle of no where like some rural part of Mississippi.

>> No.9629727

>>9629668
miss has a coast

>> No.9629774

>>9629727
Maybe that explains it, but don't places like Texas have booming ChemE sectors with all the demand for O&G?

>> No.9629825

>>9628372
>This has already been done
please gib source

>> No.9629835

>>9621255
>implying engineers dont learn as much, if not more maths and science than science students
Shit tier bait.

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9630074

in general, how useful would a mechanical engineering field be with regards to being an entry point into the following fields:

aerospace
biomedical
chemical
petroleum
nuclear
marine
alternative energy (solar/wind for example)
robotics

i'm just looking for a general snapshot. i'm in no way expecting a specific, detailed report on each, just an idea of prospects into said fields.

>> No.9630120

>>9630074
All except biomedical.

>> No.9630169

>>9630120
i've read that a lot of biomedical engineers have mech eng degrees. why wouldn't it carry over there if that's the case?

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9630198

>>9620285
>student or already in the workforce?
Both.
>level of education?
>discipline?
BSc in EE, doing Biomedical E MSc

>current projects?
Developing the software of a patient monitor in pure C. It's SO cash.

>anything interesting?
No.

>> No.9630204

>>9629774
Texas is also on the coast with one of the worlds largest deep water ports which is trafficked by tankers carrying crude oil which is then sent to refineries where chem engineers work... See the pattern?

>> No.9630206

>>9630198
Hi sorry to be a bother but can you answer my question here >>9627469

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>>9630169
Not that anon, but I have a mech eng BSc + biomed MSc colleague, and she said the MSc was basically worthless for her. I didn't ask for an explanation because I didn't care, so take it however you will.

>>9630206
I'm >>9630198. I don't really know what you expect me to say, going on such little information. If you want to do RF, do it. I can't tell you if it's the hardest, because that probably varies across universities, and I can't tell you if it's in demand, because that might vary across countries, and I live in eastern Europe.

>> No.9630457

>>9630074
Solar would probably require a graduate degree in EE, but I'm not sure. The rest of Energy sources are all fine.

>> No.9630460

>>9630204
Hmmm.

>> No.9631549

Can Mechanical Engineers go into EE fields like RF design with a graduate degree? I find Antenna/Communications to be an interesting field.

>> No.9631567

>>9620285
>working
>PhD
>BME
>Medical imaging
>yup.

>> No.9631817

>>9631549
please respond.

>> No.9631823

Off to college this year and have no idea what to do. I've been on the fence between linguistics, mathematics, but more topically electrical engineering.
I'd prefer to do research on some post-grad feat.
Just a general question: do you regret majoring in electrical engineering? Was it as wonderful as you thought it would be? Under or overwhelming?

>> No.9632388

I'm team leader for a rocksat-x payload. I don't know what kind of experiment to perform yet. Give me ideas.

>> No.9632555

>>9627499

yeah it's 7 days on 7 days off, the days on are 12 hour days and you're also living at the mine camp.
It's great because you save so much money living on site, the only thing you need to buy is alcohol at the bar all your meals are cooked for you and you catch a bus to the mine and back.
Once you finish your 7 days on they fly you back to the city. 7 days off are great because you're never on call either so once you finish work you don't have to think about it.

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>>9631823
I absolutely do not regret it. Interestingly, it is after I have graduated that I'm realizing just how much I've learned.
The world is going more and more tech and IoT crazy, and I understand every single part of those things, from the Australian sand the chips are made of, to the details of modern operating systems, plus the energy grid etc.
An EE BSc is one of the most useful things a modern man can have. I have a job that I enjoy, motivates me, and makes me feel fulfilled, while also paying relatively well.

I'm not trying to say I'm above anyone, or that other disciplines aren't important, though.

>> No.9633654

It's biotec a meme?

>> No.9633666

>>9627055
ditto

>> No.9633688

>>9630074
I'm a BME, working in a medical company and have nearly daily interaction with ME's despite what other anon stated. ME's are pretty prevalent in any industry that actually makes tangible products.

>> No.9633718

>>9631549
yes, but you'll not be asked to directly work on RF work if an EE is available. Likely, they would let you stick to your training so like the construction and support of antenna, not the grid placement, orientation, or signal processing methods which I assume you find interesting.

>> No.9633720

>>9633718
Is there a way I can get into that good stuff? This is one of the only interesting parts of EE to me?

>> No.9633734

>>9633720
Its a hard entry point, as your competition will be military trained, ex-radar designers with decades of experience. the DSP side of antenna/radar has aspects that fortunately pops up in other specializations in smaller doses. Mechanical waves follow the same theories so there is a chance that you could explore this passion professionally. Even if you don't get that opportunity, you can still pursue it as a hobby.

>> No.9633745

Graduated with BA in molecular biology, going back to earn BS in chemical and biological engineering. Ways to prepare? Plan on reviewing math and physics. I will do a year at community college then transfer to my university. I want to do a PhD in bioengineering, I have done research in ChemE tissue lab for last 3 years.

>> No.9633760

>>9633745
don't you get maths/science credits?

>> No.9633770

>>9633760
I took engineering calculus I and II for my bio degree. I only took algebra physics so I'll have to retake that. I will take Calc III, DiffEQ, linear, physics I + II, engineering calculations at a community College due to cost.
Luckly I took electives in ChemE so I can graduate in 2 years.

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9633775

Any love for Computer Engineering here?

>> No.9633779

>>9633770
Why do you not just apply for a PhD now? It sounds like you've already tested the waters and you could save time and money by getting another BS degree.

>> No.9633782

>>9633779
*not getting another BS degree

>> No.9633785

why is there such little job growth for ChemE?

>> No.9633795
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9633795

Did you know that outside amerifat and europistan, the whole CS/CE/SE is packed in a whole called [math]Systems Engineering™[/math], the most complete and rounded degree that guarantees jobs, teaches about math, low level computation, software developing and physics all at the same time?

Get on our level, "first" world

>> No.9633862

Hows the internship hunt boys? I've gotten nothing but rejections so far, but then again, I'm only a second semester sophomore so I didn't anticipate anything.

>> No.9634000

>>9633779
>>9633782
I want to go to a top 10 - 15 for graduate school and don't think I can with my grades. I'm set to graduate with a 3.5 gpa, with straight A's in my last three semesters, but I totally fucked up my sophomore to junior years. I was broke as fuck and couldn't get a loan so I ended up withdrawing every semester, racked up a ton of W's. During that time I was doing hardcore research in my ChemE lab to keep myself busy and got a lot of posters, abstracts, and a couple papers but nothing first author. I was also working full-time during those semesters.
The PI I work for said that he will write me a great letter so I can get into a Bio-engineering PhD program somewhere like UCSF, Stanford, MIT, etc (that's where he trained). But most of those places require a degree in engineering or physics to be accepted, and I only have a BA in Biology.
Do you think I should do the second BS, or just do a masters in Bioengineering at my school and then apply somewhere better?
Thanks!

>> No.9634353

>>9634000
is it really all about grades though?

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9634362

i'm 30 years and old and i'm just starting college to become an engineer
my advisor keeps asking me what type of engineer i want to be and i can't give an answer
so what's objectively the coolest type of engineer lads? i've heard civil is for women/lesbians, mechanical is for idiots and electrical has the best employment opportunities

>> No.9634367

>>9634353
I don't understand.

>> No.9634380

>>9634362
Based off of that post, you're not cut out to be an engineer.

>> No.9634382

>>9634380
what makes you say that
i have a first in all my classes

>> No.9634399

>>9634362
this is such a weird question, why do you want to be an engineer?

>> No.9634405

>>9634399
because it's hard
no other reason really

>> No.9634415

>engineering general

linear regression general

>> No.9634420

>>9634405
well a physics degree is much harder then any engineering degree if that's all that matters

>> No.9634423

Civil Engineering is the post powerful

>> No.9634435

>>9634420
might change to physics
gotta get the developmental courses out of the way first
i have been out of school for 14 years

>> No.9634444

>>9634435
How are your math skills, do you enjoy math?

>> No.9634454

>>9634444
i study math with khan academy for 4-6 hours every day
i'm halfway through their algebra 3 mission
i'm way ahead of my current math class
i'm taking two math classes over the summer to catch up to my engineering science course, which i'll start formally next year

i do enjoy math
i also enjoy theoretical stuff
i'd get into cosmology/astronomy but you can't make a living doing that unless you're a tenured professor and i don't want to teach because i hate kids
engineering seems like the most logical way to both educate myself and make a decent living after i graduate

>> No.9634458

>>9620285
>>student or already in the workforce?
Student
>>level of education?
Senior
>>discipline?
Mech.E. with a minor in Physics, might add Math
>>current projects?
Non-Newtonian Flow of Blood
>>anything interesting?
currently trying to get a job before I graduate. Looking at Boeing atm. Still need to learn how to use AnSYS properly.

>> No.9634470

>>9634454
I had to work the ground up in math before engineering much like you are, It was rough going from 100 up to 300 level. It's definitely worth it in the end though, wish you luck.

>> No.9634489

>>9634458
>Non-Newtonian Flow of Blood
Neat, I do something similar.

>> No.9634512

>>9634489
whatre you doing it for or with?

>> No.9634543

>>9633795
This

>> No.9634641

>>9634512
Work in neurosurgery department that collabs with meche. Study the Hemodynamics of aneurysms.

>> No.9634761

>>9634470
how many years did it take you
i'm looking at 5 years minimum to get out of grad school

>> No.9634842

>>9624647
Yeah

>> No.9634874

>>9633654
Obv

>> No.9634936

>>9634362
>civil is for women/lesbians, mechanical is for idiots and electrical has the best employment opportunities

impressive on how you managed to be wrong on all 3 accounts.

mechanical has the best employment opportunities by far. civil is for idiots. electrical is for soy boys, which is roughly 1 degree away from being an asexual lesbian anyway.

>> No.9635115

>>9634641
Saccular or fusiform?

>> No.9635125

>>9635115
Well umm, I'm starting in a couple months...

>> No.9635296

>>9622266
Keith?

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>>9620285
>student or already in the workforce?
Graduating college with a major in applied math and minor in astrophysics and going for graduate degrees in EE as I took some elective classes this semester and really liked them

>level of education?
Bachelor's degree -----> maters/PhD

>discipline?
applied math/physics-------->Electrical Engineering namely E&M, Optics, Photonics

>current projects?
Starting an internship in the summer, not sure what it is yet, but based on optics and E&M

>anything interesting?
Got into my grad school of choice and hopefully will like my internship in the summer

>> No.9635534

>>9635511
Neat, I always enjoyed optics and E&M. I study molecular imaging so I get to use optics a lot.

>> No.9635567

>>9633745
stop

stop this right now

spend your time learning how to do bioinformatics instead, trust me

>> No.9635593

>>9635567
I hate bioinformatics.

>> No.9636562

what about Network engineering?

>> No.9636575

Can I get mechanical engineering jobs or at least mechatronics jobs as an EE with a minor in mechE? I realized I enjoy the classes in my minor a lot.

>> No.9636581

>>9636575
Probably, I saw job postings before that said EE or MechE. Why not just major in mechE?

>> No.9636585

>>9620595
That's not true from my experience, at least not for the maths/physics/thermodynamics courses. Actually most of these lectures were spent on deriving formulas. However in courses that are more advanced and specific to the field (and also more applied), I often received formulas without the derivation. That makes sense though because it's more important to learn the practical aspects and it would simply take too long to derive everything. But at that point you learned enough to look up the derivation somewhere and understand it on your own, if you care.

>> No.9636589

>>9636581
If I changed my major now it I probably couldn't graduate on time. For me that would be an issue financially. I could potentially get a master's in mechE though.

>> No.9636596

>>9620784
>Show me the proof that sqrt(2) is irrational. Don't look it up, just do it.
Why would I have to do this as an engineer? Makes no sense nigger.

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9636615

need to write a product analysis for my mechE class
it's on GPUs
do you lads know of any good sources for detailed information on how GPUs are made? i've been reading about photolithography and PCBs, but i need more fancy terms so i can wow my professor. the paper is being graded by the entire STEM division at my college. how do i impress a bunch of geriatric nerds?

>> No.9636624

on an unrelated note how much programming is required for MechE?

>> No.9636693

>>9636615
to be more specific, i'm writing about the manufacturing processes involved with PCB (printed circuit boards), the heatsink, and the plastic case + cooling fans of a GPU

any help is sincerely appreciated

>> No.9636859

>>9634936
If you want to design air conditioner condenser coils for the rest of your life choose ME.

If you like to watch people dig holes. Choose civil.

If you want to actually do something relevant, choose EE.

>> No.9636874

>>9635534
Do you feel like doing optics in EE is like a mini physics degree? That's kinda how I feel now.

>> No.9636888

>>9636615
The fuck kind of stupid assignment is that. Engineering is such a joke.

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9636949

>>9636859

>> No.9637424

>>9636874
Yes.

>> No.9637427

>>9620285
#cremedream

>> No.9637754

>>9636693
look up patents

>> No.9637797

>>9636859
t. retard who failed out of his EE degree and can't even land a job scooping up dog shit

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9637907

>>9637754
tried and i'm too stupid
i'm a 1st year undergrad; 1st semester
i'm just getting my feet wet
i've been writing this paper for 6 hours and i have 5 pages written, all of it on how PCBs are made. the report needs to be at least 7 pages and i have four more components to write about haha

doing research papers is hard though. i can work at it for only 3-4 hours before my brain starts to turn into mush. is that normal?

>> No.9637959

>>9637907
how do you go about writing your research papers?

i would stop writing, and take a few hours to just read a bunch about the topic, then organize your findings in some sort of outline, then start writing it

the research part is the fun part, then if you organize it you clear up concepts and make connections in your head and it makes the writing more painless

>> No.9637971

>>9637959
it isn't due for a month
i'm just researching and writing it simultaneously
if i fuck anything up i'll go back and fix it

>> No.9638048

>>9620285
>student or already in the workforce?
4th year student

>level of education?
BSME

>current projects?
automated gantry with load oscillation damping system. Gotta develop an effective controller and implement it on a microcontroller

>anything interesting?
Boeing in a few months

>> No.9638169

>>9638048
What language do you use, and how proficient do you have to be in programming to go into control systems?

>> No.9638185

>>9636859
MEs and EEs work side by side on a lot of projects.

it's stupid to say one is better than the other. both will always have a job. the world always needs engineers.

>> No.9638260

>>9638185
just ignore the retard, he has no idea what the hell is going on.

>> No.9639065

I can't get a job interview because I haven't passed the FE yet. Why do I need more tests after just completing 4 years of tests?

>> No.9639087

>>9639065
>I can't get a job interview because I haven't passed the FE yet.
lol what? don't you take the FE after being employed and working as an EIT for ~5 years?

>> No.9639090

>>9639087
wait nvm im retarded ignore me

>> No.9639092

>>9639087
FE = EIT
You're thinking PE

>> No.9639107

>>9639092
I SAID IGNORE ME

>> No.9639155

I'm a civil engineering that recently got a job at a power company in a Transmission line position. Will I be able to go anywhere else after this or am I pretty much locked into the power sector now. I guess I don't understand how the world of professionalism works. If I decide I want to do environmental engineering in like 5 years would I have to get an entry level position or what. It was never explained how to me how much the beginning of my career impacted the rest of my job choices.

>> No.9639174

>>9639155
I am by no means an expert and my pool of experiences and anecdotes is very limited. But from the few (not civil) engineers I've known long term, they all stayed in their respective fields over the course of multiple jobs. If they changed jobs, they worked a 'parallel' field that had overlap with their previous field.

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9639278

how do i make sideways gravity?

>> No.9639280

>>9639278
can you just make a dipole emitter?

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9639298

>>9620285
>working in startup\struggeling tech startup
>0, dropout, deadbeat, loner
>somewhat if i can do it solitary
>some 3d print projects for my apartment, little raspberry on the side
>i want to study cybernetics\computer science but i`m already 23 and a high school dropout with bipolar disorder

I don't like this life. I want to restart desu, please lets just agree to restart.

>> No.9639538

>>9620285
does software engineering count?
:^)

>> No.9639540

Any PEs here or just me? :(

>> No.9640818

is x-ray lithography current tech or is it still hypothetical

>> No.9640832

>>9639538
Absolutely not.

>>>/g/hetto

>> No.9641078

>>9639540
I want to be a PE by the time Im 30

>> No.9641100

>>9641078
>>9639540
is there any point to this for ECE or just CivE?

>> No.9641136

I hear electrical engineering isn't so great as everyone says (far too long hours, no room for inovation, no time to study individual projects, high stress, etc.)

Is this true? As dumb as it sounds I learned about Tesla as an 8th grader and just began to learn a bunch of maths/physics up to now (senior)
I understand that times are different now and don't want to mistake something that would make me miserable for something that is a dream.

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>>9641136
>(far too long hours, no room for inovation, no time to study individual projects, high stress, etc.)
That's all of engineering, my dude

>> No.9642169

>>9641136
If you work at tesla at all (or spacex) you will be worked like a dog because that's how musk operates.

>> No.9642360

What has better prospects, MechE or CompE? I have to decide a specialization before the end of the term.

>> No.9642457
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9642457

what am i getting myself into lads
i'm 29 years old and in my 1st semester of a 3-4 year long endeavor towards an engineering degree
how do i pass classes like chemistry, calculus, physics, thermodynamics, fluid dynamics? i'm pretty stupid
if i can pull this off i will be the proudest man on earth

>> No.9642481

>>9642457
Why did you wait so long to start? Anyway you pass then by paying attention in class and doing the problem sets. Don't listen to the people who spout the self study meme.

>> No.9642500

>>9642481
because i've been a neet shut-in for the past 8 years
i wasted my 20s sitting in my room playing video games

>> No.9642584

>>9642500
Good on you for escaping the neet life and starting university. If you're not an actual brainlet (below-average IQ) you can pass all of those classes with consistent hard work, whether it be reading the required material or solving a lot of exercise problems; that's all there is to it. If you aren't improving after that then either you're not cut out for it or you're not working hard enough.

>> No.9643546

Is it true that engineering can get me a gf?

>> No.9644976

>>9643546
money can you get a gf and engineers make good money

>> No.9645580

just finished my 6000 word product analysis lads

>> No.9645594

i want to make something that can smack the back of my head hard over and over.
i heard you can sort of help your tinnitus by slapping your self on the back of the head using both fingers to like smack down on the fuck it im not gonna explain, just google it if you give a damn

the manual method using your own fingers sucks dick, it doesn't even alleviate the fucking tinnitus for longer than five seconds if you smack your head a hundred times using the finger method.

is it retarded to get an arduino to do this?
where can i get started making machines that deliver really concentrated punches like a finger would?

>> No.9645598

>>9620285
>Student
>Grad school/Master of Science
>Materials
>Right now in a solid state physics lab doing lithography, simulations, and other sweet stuff
>Landau-Lifchitz is the best book series ever

Want to do a PhD in theoratical physics/mathematical physics after I'm done but I'm honestly worried I'm too dumb for it
Anyone had a similar experience ?

>> No.9645751

>>9633795
We do study system control though, I don't exactly see what's your point.

>> No.9646033

Does anybody have access to this textbook? I need to use it in the next two days so ordering it isn't an option and accessing the ebook costs a lot of money. What I might need is on page 50 but the google books preview stops at 48 so I'm hoping somebody might be able to access the pdf through a academic paper hosting service

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HELICOPTER-FLIGHT-DYNAMICS-PADFIELD-GARETH/dp/812653012X

>> No.9646060

>>9646033
Libgen.io, my friend

>> No.9646061

>>9620950
>implying diff eq class doesn't become obsolete after laplace and fourier analysis
also doing my thesis in control theory just now and some of the high level stuff I find and want to use requires at least one course in linear algebra, which no one bothered to teach us. i'm not a fan of proper math but I appreciate it over memorizing chemical compounds or materials for assembly

>> No.9646063

>>9642457
i'm not personally attacking you, anon. i want you to know this.

but i honestly hate all the late 20 something year olds in my classes. how the fuck am i supposed to meet a girl in college when 99% of my classmates are indians chinese and late 20 somethings who spent the last 10 years getting high and working a minimum wage job? reee

obviously i dont mind any military veterans tho

>> No.9646074

>>9621314
how about you go back to proving a theorem for the 12375937th time then. meanwhile some people can actually see what it will be useful for and do something meaningful with it instead of jerking their brains off.
don't forget the lube for your dragon dildo too

>> No.9646096

>>9641136
being an engineering student and working as an engineer are two entirely different things
>>9641100
being a PE can only help you. there's no reason not to be one.

>> No.9646099

>>9621887
>power and signals
literally my nigga. except I used to get a boner for signals but now i'm all about the control systems. still like signals and they help a ton with pretty much everything else.

about your synthesizer, instead of a 555 you could use a microcontroller and change up the output PWM based on the pushbuttons? you could still use the same input method you described, but I think you might achieve a better range of frequencies and maybe more reliability than a 555. you'll have to write some software though, but it would be trivial on an ((Arduino)).
or you could try a multiplexer with the array of pushbuttons into the controller and basically have all digital up until the output speaker stage. might save you a lot of physical hassle with matching the analog impedances for the original method

>> No.9646119

>>9646063
i'm in my prime
i have girls in each of my classes after me. don't care about them though
i'm currently working on developing a relationship with one of my teachers. we're the same age
i can see why you're annoyed. young girls love older guys

>> No.9646135

>>9624516
control systems and programming I would assume? love the first but anything beyond embedded programming, as in requiring the tiniest bit of framework or UI and i'm out like a match

>> No.9646141

>>9646119
anon i really meant it when i said i wasnt personally attacking you.
>i can see why you're annoyed. young girls love older guys
girls with daddy issues maybe but im looking for wife material which is a decent portion of the female stem student population.

>> No.9646158

>>9646060
Thanks my dude

>> No.9646166

>>9646141
you won't find wife material at your age
women are whores until they reach their late-20s/30s
just sleep around and enjoy your youth
serious relationships are impossible when you're young. she'll get bored of you / cheat on you the day she finds someone better

>> No.9646185

>>9622635
>I suck when it comes to being around people, speaking in public and reading.
Have fun being unemployed, should have gone into compsci if you wanted to be forever alone

>> No.9646195

>>9646096
>being an engineering student and working as an engineer are two entirely different things

is this good? What are you implying

>> No.9646565

>>9646195
Being an engineering student is way harder than working as an engineer

You suffer for 4-5 years to enjoy the rest of your life

>> No.9646570

>>9646166
Fuck off profligate. Sex before marriage is degenerate. I’m saving myself for my future wife and only marrying a virgin with an intact hymen

>> No.9646577

>>9646570
i'm a virgin
i agree with you
i'm just saying young women aren't the type to be settling down with someone
women are always looking for a better man. even when they're married. the only thing you can do is be the best man you can be, and that means making fuck loads of money.
there's the old saying "if you build it, they will come;" apply that to yourself
this is sage advice for any young man

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>>9646063
>pursuing a degree with the intention of finding your pure maiden waifu

what a dumb fuck. learn to separate your professional and personal life you obvious incel.

>> No.9646713

>>9646577
Your sage advice is a misremebered movie quote.
Neither of you know shit about shit.

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>>9646713

>> No.9646781

>>9646704
i have no earthly idea how you gleaned that from my post. i picked my degree because it coincides with my skillset and ideal career. it just so happens that more ring-worthy women pursue science and engineering degrees than humanities degrees. deal with it, loser.

>> No.9646791

>>9646713
>Neither of you know shit about shit.
BOTH OF U ARE WRONG, IM A SAGE AND WISE CENTRIST XD

contribute or fuck off. you only prove you know nothing.

>>9646577
there are women looking to settle down at ~20 years old. theyre just about all spoken for though. obviously the women who remain single for a long period of time are going to be mostly women who dont want to settle down.

still though im not making autistic sons and daughters by settling down with a roastie whos had her fill of fun and now wants a comfy suburban lifestyle at the age of 29. im only marrying a chick in her prime aka 22 years old max

>> No.9646847

>>9646781
>i have no earthly idea how you gleaned that from my post.

>>9646063
>but i honestly hate all the late 20 something year olds in my classes. how the fuck am i supposed to meet a girl in college when 99% of my classmates are indians chinese and late 20 somethings

you probably "don't know" because you're either one, an actual dumb fuck, two, running impotent damage control or three (most likely), both.

>> No.9646859

So, EE freshmen here, but I'd like to think ahead.
What kind of stuff I could get into if I go the research path? And somewhat related, am I going to be hungry/poor as fuck?

Thanks.

>> No.9647271

>>9646859
>>9646859
dicke and also pennis and balls

>> No.9647347

>>9646847
i literally have no idea what you're trying to say. whatever clever snide remark it is that you think you wrote, you actually didn't.

but i can tell you're turbo assblasted over the fact that yes i would like to meet a woman in a STEM class. what guy wouldnt? what are you? a beta bitch soy boy? an embittered roastie with a blown out vag? a 33 year old earning his bachelors?

i just dont get the animosity over something so trivial

>> No.9647473

>>9647347
>i literally have no idea what you're trying to say

considering how puerile and stupid you very obviously are, i totally believe you. alright, carry on in your little menial world, squirt.