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9587992 No.9587992 [Reply] [Original]

How does /sci/ feel about this?

>> No.9588011
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9588011

Hawking was WITHOUT ANY DOUBT the greatest most accomplished scientist ever.

>> No.9588014

>>9587992
We've always known this; if you want to see major damage control ask /pol/

>> No.9588023

Only brainlets pretend IQ doesn't matter

>> No.9588035

>>9588014
/pol/ already decided they hate everything he stands for because he's left-wing

>> No.9588038
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Our generation still has a bright mind to look up to

>> No.9588052

>>9587992
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Even a smart person is wrong sometimes.

IQ is a very controversial metric precisely because it is an accurate measure and has large implications as a result.

>> No.9588062

Maybe it's true for many but it's not inherent. You can be both successful and actually smart and boast about IQ or have no redeeming qualities except a high score on an online IQ test.
Someones claims about their IQ isn't enough information. Furthermore there are discussions where a talent for logical problems or fast learning would are relevant to mention.

>> No.9588097

>>9588052
Low IQ post

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>>9588023
This. As somebody with an IQ of 107, I find it quite humorous when pathetic plebs like >>9588014 get jealous

>>9588038
also this. Pic-related

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>>9588245
>As somebody with an IQ of 107

>> No.9589233

>>9588052
This is why this board is a fucking joke, high schoolers like you are obsessed with this measure that only works when the average is 100 instead of actually learning.

>> No.9589236

>>9589224
This haha fuck.

But IQ is worth fuck all if you don't cultivate the skills and character to utilize it.
>t. Neet with diagnosed ADD and depression that can't afford meds for either.

>> No.9589242

>>9587992
Legit question: is an IQ of 100 in America is the same as in say Norway or Congo, DR? Is it an internationally defined score?

>> No.9589267

>>9589242
An IQ test from 50 years ago will give you a significantly higher value because it's based on comparing your score to the current average, it's a subjective measurement.

>> No.9589299

>>9589267
Yeah, but what I'm asking if I for example did 124 (my score from from ten years ago in high-school, though I'm definitely not as sharp anymore) on a test and did another test in another country immediately afterwards would it still be about 124? Or would it be 200 in Congo and 80 in Japan?

>> No.9589352

>>9589299

124 is 124 everywhere. Also, the difference between countries isn't even that much, average in america is probably 99, average in japan might be 102... it's not that big of a difference anyway. Only matters when you start talking about ethiopa and shit

>> No.9589368

>>9589352
average black IQ in america is like 85
mestizo's maybe 90

I believe the asians relentlessly cheat on IQ (or any other) test
So I wouldn't trust any of the claim they have higher IQ's than whites.

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>>9589352
This map puts the entire developed world between ten points with averages. Brown countries aren't doing too good, but nigger countries are just disaster zones, whether they're in Africa or the Caribbean.

>> No.9589442

>>9589299
Depends if the test was normalized to give 100 for the negros in the congo, or normalized for Japan

>> No.9589454

>>9587992
Just further proof that the real man was actually a vegetable, and the people impersonating him through a talking computer (it's fucking ridiculous how people actually fell for something this stupid) were too afraid to give concrete answers for the question in fear that they couldn't actually achieve the score they claim if confronted with an actual test.

>> No.9589460

>>9587992
>JohnCohen1
>1

>> No.9589464

>>9587992
easy for him to say he has IQ privilege

>> No.9589475

>>9587992
It's true. Being proud of your IQ is like being proud of your race, it's not indicative at all of your own personal accomplishments, and so its a cheap way to feel accomplished without having actually done anything, which i think would have someone meet all the requirements for being a loser

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>>9587992
it's true. IQ doesn't matter. the brain is all made of the same star stuff. it's science.

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>>9589475
exactly. why would you be proud of your ancestry and heritage when you could be proud of doing a really good powerpoint presentation at work, or what you bought on amazon.com last night?

>> No.9589523

>>9589490
different kinds of proud. if you take pride in the works of raffaello as if they're your accomplishments you're a fucking retard. if you haven't accomlisheh anything in your life you're still a retard, raffaello can't save you.

>> No.9589528

>>9589523
>different kinds of proud
how convenient

>> No.9589529

>>9589236
>But IQ is worth fuck all if you don't cultivate the skills and character to utilize it.
Didn't the guy with the world's highest IQ become a farmer? Maybe he knows something we don't.

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>>9589523
it's so retarded to understand your place in history as part of something greater than yourself.

>> No.9589562

>>9589538
well if you put it that way you're missing the bigger picture entirely. our species will go extinct, the earth will be swallowed by the sun leaving no trace of anything that happened and your place in history is utterly pointless and meaningless

>> No.9589579

>>9589529
Success and position in life is a triad of IQ, personality, and environment like connections and socio-economic status

you can be a brilliant IQ 145 motherfucker but if your personality tends towards depression and self defeat then you'll never elevate out of the poor family you were born into

whereas a dumbfuck IQ 90 with a self-driven personality with certain ties to the son of CEO whitestraightmaleson will go far in life.

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>>9589562
i don't understand how the fact that something is going to die makes it pointless. or why something even needs to have a "point" to be meaningful. you are going to die as a much smaller blip than your race and people, and yet you care about yourself.

have you ever considered that your passive nihilism might just be a cover for being a little bitch too afraid to actually stand or fight for anything?

>> No.9589590

>>9589267
>An IQ test from 50 years ago will give you a significantly higher value because it's based on comparing your score to the current average
This is not true.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289607000463

> The decline of the world's IQ

> Dysgenic fertility means that there is a negative correlation between intelligence and number of children. Its presence during the last century has been demonstrated in several countries. We show here that there is dysgenic fertility in the world population quantified by a correlation of − 0.73 between IQ and fertility across nations. It is estimated that the effect of this has been a decline in the world's genotypic IQ of 0.86 IQ points for the years 1950–2000. A further decline of 1.28 IQ points in the world's genotypic IQ is projected for the years 2000–2050. In the period 1950–2000 this decline has been compensated for by a rise in phenotypic intelligence known as the Flynn Effect, but recent studies in four economically developed countries have found that this has now ceased or gone into reverse.

>> No.9589601

>>9587992
Hawking confirmed brainlet

>> No.9589603

>>9589590
>the world's IQ
Probably has more to do with the exploding population of SSA which by and large consists of 60-80~ average IQ countries

>> No.9589606

>>9589603
>>recent studies in four economically developed countries have found that this has now ceased or gone into reverse.

>> No.9589613

>>9589606
Which are experiencing a long term flood of migration from said low IQ countries

>> No.9589619

>>9589589
Low IQ post

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>>9589619

>> No.9589630

>>9589589
>argue for taking pride in the accomplishments of others
>post Nietzsche jpg
>probably unaware of the irony

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>>9589538

>> No.9589639

>>9589627
Non-argument to refute your non-argument.

>> No.9589653

>>9589475
No shit, sherlock!
No, having a high IQ doesn't mean that everything is downloaded into your brain like in The Matrix. Yes, you still have to put work in.

That's not really the fucking point. There are still inherent differences in people and some people have potential that is much greater than others, and it's not wrong to be proud of happy about having that potential, or to feel superior for having that potential. That potential always sits waiting to be tapped into.

>> No.9589686

>>9589634
they are fucking everywhere

>> No.9589688

>>9589267
that's not what "subjective" means

>> No.9589707

Let's look at Stephen Hawking's body of work:

>Black hole radiation
important for some abstract theoretical problems, but not really that useful. It wasn't even his idea, he just further developed it.

>Black hole information loss
one of the most important theorems of his career. Turns out he was totally wrong, and called it his "greatest blunder". Once this theorem was called into question, he scrambled around, trying to justify it through all kinds of bizarre means. Such as parallel universes, and alternate topology.

>Higgs-Boson
in a bizarre display of ego, Hawking went way outside his own field to declare that the Higgs-Boson would never be found. Despite having no background in particle physics whatsoever, he opened up a public debate with Peter Higgs himself. In a great demonstration of karma, he was completely blown the fuck out just a few years later when the Higgs-Boson was found.


Many of his papers were just these very abstract theoretical musings about cosmology, and were very often completely unhinged. Like his bizarre claim that time would "run backwards" once the universe started contracting (a claim which he later retreated from, after being publicly humiliated)

>> No.9589731

>>9589653
>it's not wrong to be proud of happy about having that potential, or to feel superior for having that potential.
It is retarded to feel proud of anything you didn't do.

>> No.9589753

>>9588052
>IQ is a very controversial metric precisely because it is an accurate measure

IQ is disregarded and belongs to pop-sci territory for the past 40 years because it wasn't considering social background bias and it tried to quantify something that couldn't be explained by numbers.

>> No.9589764

>>9589753
>social background bias
t. nigger

>> No.9589773

>>9589368
>According to my opinion, I'm the smartest
Wow, you must be really smart to come to that conclusion!

>> No.9589791

>>9589236
How can you not afford antidepressants or adderall? They're both generic and cheap AF

I'd recommend using GoodRX to find the best prices and always go generic. Walmart and Publix pharmacies are usually pretty good

>> No.9589795

>>9589791
this is why people pause when you talk and continue after you stopped as if someone pressed the play button again

>> No.9589800

>>9589795
Wut?

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>>9589634
>>9589686
Anti-/pol/ faggots are nothing more then butthurt leftists masking their hatred of reality. (Such as IQ denial) they need to GTFO. Thankfully, that time is approaching closer every year.

>>9589731
>It is retarded to feel proud of anything you didn't do.

Guess we better teach parents never to be proud of their child.

>> No.9589845

>>9589791
I rather cannot afford the psychiatrist hours required to get a prescription for either. I got diagnosed before but wasn't given a prescription and that's been years ago.

>> No.9589854

>>9589707
This so much. Hawkings is a hack scientist.

>> No.9589866

>>9589845
A general practitioner can prescribe antidepressants for sure if that's cheaper for you.

Idk man, 2 visits to the psychiatrist without any insurance would probably be 300 dollars max. I think the value lost from your life from being depressed and constantly distracted is worth way more than that.

You said yourself that you feel like you haven't lived up to your potential.

Also if you're so poor that you can't afford insurance, can't you get like Medicaid or something?

>> No.9589870

>>9589845
there's nothing worng with you anon.

if you can communicate with others, your mind is intact.

work on your emotional state, that's on you bro

and don't lsiten to that redneck spasti, you're good

>> No.9589874

He might have been clever in his early years, but due to his condition his brain will have been starved of oxygen numerous times. He's even attempted to kill himself by holding his breath.

I doubt he had many brain cells left. People give this brainlet more credit than he deserves.

>> No.9589877

>>9587992
He's not wrong. That's not to say that IQ is a pointless metric, but people who brag about it generally do so because they have nothing that is actually worth bragging about.

>> No.9589883

>>9589579
You couldn't handle the complex tasks of being a ceo with 90 IQ.

>> No.9589891

>>9589384
Algerian 125 but I'm a Berber, not a nigger. The avg IQ is probably because of the Tuareg down south

>> No.9589920

>>9589866
Tbh I've never considered government aid in that manner and don't want to get mad shit for it. You have a point in that it isn't a kidney in terms of price.

>>9589870
I feel this way sometimes but I'm very conflicted on whether or not I need to get help since trying to deal with it internally hasn't been working.

>> No.9589925

>>9589883
You could even become the president of the USA with an IQ of 90

>> No.9589926

>>9589920
when you can't find the answers....

>> No.9589929

>>9588038
I like how he says “on my first try” but he ran for president in 2000

>> No.9589941

>>9589538
and you have to be even more retarded to take people who you think belong to the same group as yous accomplishments are the same accomplishments as yours

>> No.9589942

>>9587992
IQ is important though. Its what separates us from primative animal beings such as the blacks

>> No.9589947

>>9589807
Low IQ brainlet post

>> No.9589951

>>9587992
As shown by many people on /sci/, IQ is pretty useless since so many people with high scores do absolutely nothing of worth except brag about their high number.

>> No.9589954

>>9589942
more like the monumentous and numerous achievements in science, art, infrastructure, culture, engineering, politics, etc etc
IQ is worth fuck all without achievements

>> No.9589957

>>9589954
Those are all the result of us having superior intellgience

>> No.9589964

>>9589957
but superior intelligence doesn't hand you achievments
don't have achievments and dumb => fucking loser
don't have achievments and smart => fucking loser

>> No.9589967

>>9589920
What do you mean by "Mad shit" for it? If you need some help, you need some help. You don't have to be a complete leech to get some government benefits.
If something is available to you that can help you, why not use it? You only live once and get one chance to be happy, why should you care what other people think?

My depression was genetic (mom, grandma, sister have it), and I procrastinated on getting it treated, but honestly now that I'm on meds, I regret not going years ago. It could have prevented years of needless misery

>> No.9589970

>>9589957
>us

Them. The accomplishments are of the people who made them. You’ve accomplished nothing and do not deserve credit for the work of others.

>> No.9589980

>>9589964
You think blacks could invent what white people did? If so, monkeys would have written language by now and animals would have civilizations

>> No.9589981

>>9589967
My father has ADHD and I think my depression is secondary depression caused by my ADHD and external stress factors (that weren't caused by the ADHD but weren't handled properly from it either).

I'll look into getting it done, thanks.

>> No.9589985

>>9589980
You talk like someone who thinks he has high intelligence but with no achievements. You are a fucking loser.

>> No.9589990

>>9589970
That's like saying the language you're speaking isn't yours because you didn't invent it. The mere fact of the matter is bevause I am an evobled human being and not an ape, I am capable of itinstrad of speaking all in ooga booga and tongue clicks

>> No.9589994

>>9589990
Sorry for phone posting but gotta leave soon so excuse the typos

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>>9588011
My first grade IQ was over 1961

YHWH Allah
(LORD God)

>> No.9590008

Less than 2000 is an idiot.

>> No.9590014

>>9589929
i find this interesting as well

>> No.9590040

>>9589990
That’s quite possibly the most retarded thing I’ve ever read on this site. Literal ape tier logic. Language is an ever growing ever changing society-wide requirement for proper communication and wasn’t just “invented”. Art and inventions are the accomplishments of those who created it. If little billy makes dank macaroni art and his mom puts it on their fridge, his brother trying to take credit for it by way of being related is just as retarded as you trying to feel superior to anyone else for doing nothing while others achieve things. You are the lazy nigger in a group project who sits on his phone the whole time and gets butthurt when the rest of the group tells the teacher he didn’t help and doesn’t deserve a good grade.

Dumb faggots who do nothing, despite their potential to do something, are still dumb faggots.

>> No.9590065

>>9590040
You use the word nigger, so at least I assume that we can agree that they are lesser than human beings, right?

>> No.9590071

>>9588035
But he boycotted israelite organisations in support of palestine

>> No.9590077

>>9589883
I never said the dumbass would become a CEO himself, he would just find more success in life than the depressed and oppressed genius.

>> No.9590106

>>9589883
CEOs are overglorified mascots for companies to shareholders/investors. Unless the CEO himself invented/built/managed/invested into a company from its birth, any sub-100 IQ moron can pretend to be CEO and sign off on whatever deals his actual masters tell him to do. They simply have to be charismatic enough to be associated with whatever product or service is being provided. These mascots will face the public backlash whenever shit hits the fan, maybe even serve cushy jail time, but will be rewarded with a Golden parachute to take the fall.

>> No.9590141

>>9590065
Depends on what you mean by lesser. If I encounter a smart black dude will I think less of him because he was born darker than I was? No. Do I think a lot of black dudes are in the aforementioned dumb faggot category? Yeah I’d agree to that. But I refuse to discount any person who is intelligent as anything less due to factors outside of their control, be it their race or the actions of their kin. Same way I’m not thinking highly of anyone who hasn’t done anything or shown they worthy of being held in high regard.

>> No.9590245

>man with 9"x 5" trouser snake tells other men to not be self conscious about their size
Lmoa

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(((Cohen)))

>> No.9590262

IQ tests are meaningless. The test they were based on was originally developed in France to determine if kindergarteners were ready to move on to the first grade. IQ test results just tell you how much smarter you are than a kid in kindergarten. A psychologist named H.H. Goddard started marketing the test as an intelligence test that applied to everyone and not just kids just so he could have an excuse to practice Eugenics in America.

>> No.9590332

>>9590253
Every board is /pol/. I love it my brothers.

>> No.9590354

>>9590262
>The test they were based on was originally developed in France to determine if kindergarteners were ready to move on to the first grade
I never understood this argument. Astronomy originally branched off from astrology, does that make astronomy meaningless? You do realize that IQ tests as administered today have NOTHING in common with IQ tests from 100 years ago, right?

>> No.9590363

On a related note do you think the general public will ever be aware of the state of mainstream psychometrics research and of its results, or will the stranglehold the media has on public opinion always silence the scientific reality of intelligence?

>> No.9590364

>>9590363
When it starts being malleable through genetic technologies

>> No.9590373

>>9590332
It's an anonymous site so obviously if the admins allow human garbage to post on it, they'll overrun everything over time. The important fact here though is that you are despised by everyone with a valuable opinion. This will always be true no matter how many hours you spend circle jerking with your intellectual equivalents on bottom of the barrel websites like this.

>> No.9590377

>>9590373
nigger

>> No.9590378

>>9590364
I'll explain in more depth.

Right now there is no cost as an individual for stating "IQ is stupid". It is a nice virtue signal and majority of people have average IQ. For selfish reasons it makes sense and because of the leftist hold might as well to incur as little personal suffering as possible.

Majority of people will never deal with or encounter the results of the problems associated. Having a family member or friend murdered by someone low IQ is still fairly low odds. Also not many people legitimately care about societal progress unless it benefits themselves.

When the incentives begin to align around a selfish individual; aka using technology to increase the IQ and health of their own child or a closely related child. At this point they will go through with it.

It never had to do with believing in IQ or not. We all know it exists at a common sense level. The social things people say about IQ are not things anyone, including black or liberal people believe.

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>> No.9590384

>guy with 160+ IQ claims IQ isn't important
that's what they all do. "I'm not naturally gifted, I just worked harder than everybody else." It's just bragging. Feynman did the same shit.

>> No.9590390

That is classic countersignalling and only done by people with really high IQs. The point is that he is both saying he is smarter than you and calling you arrogant. It is egotistical as fuck.

This is the same thing as billionaires telling you it is rude to talk about money. The fact that liberals love is proof it is also virtue signaling.

>> No.9590393

>>9590384
The idea of the human consciousness as something magical and spiritual is something people cling to extremely hard. Like, it's more elemental to people than religion because they "feel" alive.

>> No.9590399

>>9590384
>Feynman did the same shit.
Yes and no
>just work hard
>I am only three people alive who truly understand General Relativity
That shit was bullshit.
Feynman was an actual teacher and seemed to generally put time and effort into his students. So, no, he wasn't as bad as Hawking.

>> No.9590405

>>9590384
Yep, Lebron James just had the drive no one else did. Worked hard to be a 6'8" giant with a non-lanky skeletal build.

>> No.9590406

>>9590373
The fact that my STEM brethren can handle politically incorrect humor must scare the soy out of you.

>> No.9590409

>>9589929
He formed an exploratory committee in 2000 but backed out

>> No.9590410

>>9589384
src not found XD

>> No.9590412

>>9590384
He never said it wasn't important. He said only losers boast about it, and this is because showing your world-class work (which depends on more factors than pure IQ, such as effort and love) is more impressive than saying you're really good at getting good scores on a pattern matching test.

It's like spoiled rich kids who brag about their powerful fathers. Sure, it's great to have a influential dad, but bragging about it means you probably don't have anything to brag about yourself.

>> No.9590418

>there will be a day when these intellectual masturbators appear as "Go players".

The same way alphago blew past go players is the same way AGI and super-intelligent humans will blow past physics. Unless it directly contributes to advancing either of those subjects or keeping humanity alive it is orthogonal to any real progress. It's equivalent to jerking off into a rag.

>> No.9590420

>>9590384
waiting for all those other 160+ IQ guys to produce work like hawkings

>> No.9590425

>>9590420
And I'm waiting for one hard working sub-100 IQ brainlet to do the same

>> No.9590428

>>9590420
Hawkings did nothing of note of importance. His work is useless. The average person working at a fast food joint contributed as much to progress.

Being fawned over by pop sci and useless masturbatory theories means nothing. The uselessness of his work is apparent to even the dumb rednecks but somehow society fawns over it.

>> No.9590446

Think of it this way. Who advanced Go play the most?

The google deepmind team.

Did they do it by writing theories and arguing in scientific settings about the theory of how to play go?

If you are too low IQ to understand this it's fine. It should be easily understandable though to most intelligent people. The process of achieving progress is best achieved by creating useful tools.

If you want a modern city the way to get to it isn't a lot more human labor. It's by industrializing.

For the intellectual pursuits the vector of human work which doesn't improve cognitive capacity is the same as ditch digging with a shovel.

You are contributing to manipulating the environment around you by digging with a shovel, but the person pushing industrialization and internal combustion engines will just use a mechanized digger to achieve 1000000x of times more progress than ditch diggers with shovels.

>> No.9590447

>>9590428
Honestly I don't work in his field so I can't comment the quality of his scientific work, but it seems like did a good job inspiring people to work in the sciences and towards gathering interest and funding. I guess under your value system that's about equivalent to your average fast food worker.

>> No.9590459

>>9589990
>bevause I am an evobled human being and not an ape, I am capable of itinstrad of speaking all in ooga booga

>> No.9590473

>>9590373
Leftists are the science deniers.
The average /pol/lack does not hold these beliefs:
-Liberal creationism/race denialism
-Tabula Rasa neurobiology
-Postmodernist/socioconstructivist epistemologies.

These are leftist superstitions.

>> No.9590475

If you're seriously bitching about being called a loser for wanking to your IQ, you may want to re-evaluate your life or more precisely the lack of personal accomplishments in life.

>> No.9590494

>>9589980
So if I respond to you in a way that's easily dismissed, do you get more entrenched in your idiot viewpoint? Also, why am I wasting time responding to you when you're clearly trolling. Oh, because lots of people say this shit but aren't trolling, or maybe this is just the limit of human understanding.

>> No.9590495

>>9590447
It is unfortunately. A good ditch digger doesn't impress me. Someone who invents a mechanized ditch digger or better shovel impresses me.

>> No.9590507

It's easy to talk about not needing money when you are rich.

>> No.9590517

>>9587992
people who boast about being better than people who boast about iq are losers

>> No.9590529

>>9590406
I dunno I'm afraid of actual idiots thinking your jokes are real. Sorry for the buzzkill bro.

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I think the only reason stephen hawking ever said this is because he was admitted to mensa when he was young, people keep using him as an example in reference to IQ and mensa, Mentally retarded people who believe IQ is accurate get IQ scores similar to Stephen Hawking and insist they're as intelligent or more intelligent.

He wanted to criticise IQ without being drawn into an IQ debate, probably.

Honestly if I was stephen hawking and random mensa members kept comparing themselves to me I would do a lot worse than just call them losers.

>> No.9590540

>>9589538
You lack ambition. Go wait in your "place in history" then and stop bothering those of us who are actually trying to make it.

>> No.9590545

>>9590406
apparently they can't handle a different opinion judging from their spergouts though

>> No.9590549
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>>9589490
>ancestry and heritage
>artist of that painting never had children

>> No.9590551

>>9589464
Cognitive privilege is a thing, shitlord. You're supposed to feel guilty, but only a little so you don't resent the brainlets.

>> No.9590574

>>9590495

>Someone who invents a mechanized ditch digger or better shovel impresses me

And what about those who analyze the constitution of the soil structure to create models such as the soil texture triangle and void fraction of soil particles? Are they not shiny enough for you to be impressed with?

>> No.9590603

>>9590420
Do you not understand countersignaling or virtue signaling? Hawking is an egotistical ass, Cohen in the OP is sap, and you are a loser.

>> No.9590640

>>9590373
How can someone dislike /pol/? The greatest place on the internet where there is no thought control or political censorship?

>> No.9590654

Sup y'all.

I had my IQ measured as a child (the most accurate time to have it measured as you may know). It was 139.

I'm currently finishing my PhD thesis in mathematics from the one of the world's best universities (easily top 5 by any measure). Awaiting a postdoc at the end of it.

And I'm miserable. Shit isn't worth it. I'm doing it because at this point, what other choice is there? Anyway, ignorance is bliss. Don't envy me.

>> No.9590667

>>9590640

>no thought control

/pol/ is literally infested with memes anon. Memes by their very nature are contextualized artifacts for others to imitate. Imitation is a form of thought control.

>> No.9590709

>>9590354
>Oh, wow! He can recite his two times tables up to 100! He must be a genius!

>> No.9590745

>>9590667
More like memetic engineering is thought control. Memes are just the means by which a culture evolves over time. Intentionally manipulating how that culture evolves with forced memes such as propaganda or advertisements is memetic engineering.

>> No.9590748

>>9587992
People who don't think IQ means anything sure do like talking about it an awful lot.

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>> No.9590779

>>9590654
>139
>1 in 200
>top 1.5 million in America
It isn't that high anon. You're miserable because you're a brainlet relative to everyone around you.

>> No.9590791

>>9587992
Not Even A Sticky

>> No.9590811

>>9590779
>Top half of 1%
>It's not that high cuz muh absolute numbers
Current year and innumeracy is still a thing

>> No.9590817

>>9590640
>dumbest people alive, maybe who have ever lived
>worst people alive

yeah gee who could hate that

>> No.9590935

>>9590811
When your peers are probably 150+? Yes, it isn't that high. You have to put in so much more effort just to get by. Of course you're miserable. Imagine if you were worth $10million but had billionaire friends, you'd be miserable then too.

>> No.9590950

>>9590817
>everybody whose political views are different from mine are the worst people alive

>> No.9590951

>>9589538
There's a difference between playing a part in something greater than yourself, and merely being part of a context greater than yourself. I'm part of an economy greater than myself, but I've done nothing to shape that economy.

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>>9590420
Bruh I'm really trying ok

you have no idea how hard electrical engineering is, it fucking sucks even though the math is so clean. It's a walk in the park if you just understand *magnets*.

Headpats please

>> No.9590964

>>9590957
You have shit taste in animeme.

>> No.9591039

>>9590406
Soy doesn't make you turn into a gay frog, stop watching InfoWars

>> No.9591070

>>9591039
The causation isn't there but the correlation is

>> No.9591274

>>9590473
>the average polack does not hold these beliefs
>proceeds to list beliefs I’ve been called a shill on /pol/ for arguing against

You guys are fucking delusional

>> No.9591284

>>9590071
Left wing meaning that you agree with human caused climate change existing.

>> No.9591292

>>9587992
Only real brainlets boast about their IQ.

>> No.9591311

>>9590950
>Daily threads fantasizing about killing everyone who isn't the specific combination of white, religious, and ideological viewpoints.
>ITS JUST DIFFERENT POLITICAL VIEWS STOP BEING SO ONE SIDED.
lol

>> No.9591345

>>9588011
Most? Eh, not really. He is definitely top 10 though.

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>>9591311
ikr? where does all this racism come from? we're all one race, the human race! we're the same, so (white countries only) need diversity.

it's science. go back to /pol/, racists.

>> No.9591361

>>9589929
No he didn't. Nice made up facts

>> No.9591369

>>9589224
>>9589236
Lurk moar ffs

>> No.9591378

>>9591360
>>>/pol/

>> No.9591390

>>9591361
he did the equivalent of dropping all his classes in the first week

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>>9591378
so- just to be clear, you want to send me back/ keep me segregated to protect your community?

must be nice. having that option.

>> No.9591408

>>9591401
yes, you are deported to your containment board

>> No.9591414

>>9591408
>censoring political opinions you disagree with.

yay science!

>> No.9591417

>>9590071
/pol/ doesn't like Palestinians either. They just hate Jews more.

>> No.9591439

>>9590574
I don't see how any of Hawking's work impacted us at all. He dug a deeper hole, but that's about it. Lots of physics work has been enormously productive though. The far end of theoretical physics is pointless though at this point of time.

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>>9589707
>>9589854
brainlet samefag

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>>9590957

>> No.9592286

>>9589753
>bias in a test about noticing patterns

>> No.9592307

>>9589475
Individuals are nothing in objective reality and life does not care about them. It's the genetic stream that matters and we are just instances of it. My kids will be a continuation of me and im a continuation of my parents and ancestors. Im proud of my siblings and parents and they can take pride in my accomplishments. That dilutes as you move further away but still pertains. I take pride in the accomplishments of those who came before me because i am their stream.

As for the claim that such a mindset is only for those with no personal success: im a doctor, im married and i have three kids with money to be able to send them all to private school. However i still hold it in perspective, im not important in reality.

>> No.9592311

>>9587992
Nice tweet. Why can't we debate about IQ while pretending negroids don't exist? Then white people would have lowest IQ and the paragons of virtue in the scientific community could talk about it freely.

>> No.9592313

>>9592286
It's biased because then you would notice correlations between IQ and race, criminality, personal success and criminal disposition. Which is racist, and racism is a bias. Therefore IQ is biased.

>> No.9592320

>>9592307
All those words to say nothing

>> No.9592327

>>9589481
did he flied?

>> No.9592333

>>9587992
He's absolutely right.

>> No.9592337

>>9592320
You may not like it but it isn't nothing. It's a relatively straight forward defense of having some sort of pride and obligation beyond the individual.

>> No.9592384

>>9589236
>>9589224
_| L U R K
M
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>> No.9592387

>>9592384
>>9591369
>lurking /sci/
NEEEEEEEEERDS

>> No.9592389

>>9592387
I'm just killing time during my thermodynamics classes atm

>> No.9592392

>>9592389
Well FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>> No.9592395

>>9592389
very interesting

>> No.9592405

>>9592392
Please do anon-senpai (。>﹏<。)

>> No.9592412

Calling other people Losers for something you don't like, kinda makes you loser too. Just say that you don't fucking care about it. That's what makes you smart.

>> No.9592429

>>9590640
Do you not understand that a solid 1/3 of /pol/ is paid content at any given time? It's a very potent tool being used against the good people of the world right alongside all the others like the blm campaign, mgtow, white supremacy, black supremacy, etc, anything and everything they can do to isolate you, fracture group cohesion, break communities apart, families even, they do. The enemy is much, much sneakier than you and they've been doing this for a long, long time. There is nowhere that's safe. Sure you can come here and say whatever dumb shit you think about, but you can't deny there is coordinated pressure being applied, with a big bankroll to back it up, trying to steer conversations and ideas. CTR ring a bell? Those guys are STILL posting because they're still being paid because there is a fuckload of money to be made breaking America apart. You know, the way we do to other countries? I'm just saying don't for a minute think there is no thought control on this website.

>> No.9592431

/fit/ here, shit like that sounds like COPE to me.
>fit 6'2" Chad hasn't experienced the struggles of a manlet
>unaware of problems arising from short stature
>unconscious of height being an issue at all because he's the perfect height
>ignorant of his own height due to this
>someone asks him how tall he is
"I have no idea. People who boast about their height are losers."
>some manlet quotes him implying that manlets are not inferior

He should have said "people who are concerned with their IQ are losers".

>> No.9592435

>>9588038
I like how he gets mocked for his "stable genius", then scores 30/30 on the official Presidential mental fitness test, and gets mocked because everybody thinks the mental fitness test is ridiculously easy.
Then a bunch of reporters took the test for the Independent Journal Review youtube channel.
Prepare yourself for brainlet cringe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3pzQ5fbz-s

>> No.9592437

>>9589845
You are shitposting on a German scat fetish porn site. You have time.

>> No.9592443

>>9592435
Well he did deny climate change.
>>9588038
Does mental fitness equal intelligence? They don't sound like the smart thing.

>> No.9592450

>>9592435
>struggling to understand the 1>A>2>B>3>C test
>struggling to draw time on an analog clock
>one of them has to ask for clarification on "name the animals"
>struggles to repeat a list of five words in order
>can't repeat a basic sentence
>somebody comes up with "floral arrangement" when asked to name words that begin with f
>can't remember the five words from minutes ago
>CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THE FUCKING DATE
>20/30 guy still thinks he's a stable genius and wants the tape of Trump's test
America, what the fuck is this?

>> No.9592452

>>9592412
that sounds suspiciously like a smuggy

>> No.9592461

Honestly, I think virtues are mixed up with abilities too often. Suddenly patience is seen as intelligence, discipline is seen as strength etc etc.

>> No.9592465

>>9592412
There's literally nothing more pathetic than people who parade their virtue of not concerning themselves with the behaviour of others. It's moral cowardice, to have a belief in what is good and right and not try to shape society along those lines.

>> No.9592481

>>9587992
Doesnt make me feel much, though above average when compared to the general population I'm pretty mich average for grad school.
IQ deniers are the real issue

>> No.9592486

>>9587992
translation: "I refuse to take a test now fuck off."

>only brainlets didn't immediately understand

>> No.9592502

>>9592450
Journalism, Poli Sci, Childhood Edu.... The only reason people go into those degrees is because those are the only degrees they are smart enough to graduate with.

Makes sense lol

>> No.9592504

>>9591345
>Taking the bait

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>>9591070
>Data based on animal testing
>No observed difference in human men
>Virtually any health science expert says soy does nothing
Wowee, how's the red pill goin' bud?

>> No.9592608

>>9592525
A study just last week demonstrated soy formula causing enlarged breast buds in male infants.

>> No.9592630

>>9592435
these people have to be faking this

>> No.9592632

>>9592608
>no source
>>9589634

>> No.9592650

>>9587992
Big Chair Steve btfoing like 3/4 of /sci/
how they will ever recover?

>> No.9592677

>>9592632
https://www.healio.com/endocrinology/reproduction-androgen-disorders/news/in-the-journals/%7Ba829a22d-9774-453c-ac1c-866b43eb8dce%7D/soy-formula-associated-with-estrogenic-response-in-infant-girls

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257624/

The one im talking about and an additional found in one minute.

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OUT
GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS BOARD
FUCKING /POL/

>> No.9592705

>>9592687
No

>> No.9592717

>>9592525
Studies show that on average soy doesn't affect men that much, but they still can't explain the outliers I.E men who have suffered loss in testosterone production due to soy. I wouldn't take the risk, especially since soy isn't at all some essential must have food.