/sci/ - Science & Math

Something to do with the hype from the Nobel Prize in Physics

>>9588294
Because people know that physics is the most fundamental
and there was a lot of hype about it since Einstein

>>9588294
because physics is today's philosophy,
that is, it paints a world view

2000 years ago it was carpentry

>>9588294
They're good at stealing papers and ideas from actual autists and presenting them in a way that a money-engorged populace can understand.

biology's got Dawkins innit

>>9588310
Then why are there no mathematicians on their fame level?

Because Physics is the most fun.

>>9588362
You can't make pretty simulations of Homophobic Algebraic structures. No one but mathematicians give a shit.
Now, dude black holes lmao

>>9588359
I thought about that, but I'm pretty sure he's more known for being one of the 4 horsemen of atheism.

>>9588294
Because math is just too boring if you don't understand anything and the other sciences make brainlets feel like they can actually follow the reasoning and grasp what's being discussed.
Physics is both cool and mysterious because it's very smart people saying trippy stoner stuff but no one knows how they came to the conclusion (other than "genius")

>>9588294
I guess it's just easier to hype up shit like black holes and the universe than it is other shit

What do you think of when you think of master engineer? Fucking plumbers n shit

>>9588294
You need people to dumbdown the complexities of physics. Biology is easy to understand in comparison to physics also, physics has more philosophical implications than just plain biology.

>>9588406
I think of bioengineers that will one day make us superhuman

>>9588294
laughed, saved

>>9588294
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Pop science "celebrities" should be ignored at all costs. They appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Kaku is a fucking narcissist. Just listen to the way he talks.

Tyson is an egomaniac. Krauss is a sperglord.
Hawking is degenerate.

They should all just shut up and stop trying to get TV science episode deals.

>>9588485
We should ignore Sagan too?

>>9588485
m-muh feelings

*blocks your path*

>>9588659
He's hardly known outside of the mathematician circle. Ask the average person who he is, and they will have no clue.

>>9588659
I'm an average person, not in any mathematics circles. Who is this guy? I have no clue.

>>9588294
Because physics speak of the natural of reality and tangentially answers (or tries to) the deep questions of our existence and the universe.
Other fields concern themselves with specific nerdy problems that the average brainlet couldn't be bothered about.

>>9588671
Rachel Maddow

>>9588294
Pinker, chomskey, dawkins, peterson

>>9588677
Dubs confirm

>>9588693
- Dawkins is known for being an atheist

- Peterson is known for not liking SJW's

- Chomskey is known for being a philosopher

- Pinker is known for his hair

>>9588368
You can make some pretty cool things with math for non technical people. mathematicians just don't care about the public as much

>>9588693
And Krugman as well.

>>9588294
Sagan probably, plus >>9588677

>>9588701
>Dawkins known for being atheist
I disagree, his books were popular before he took the throne as the King of Cringey Teenagers
Also:
>E O Wilson
>Stephen Gould

But yeah definitely mostly physics and shit
Feels bad that there's no chem representation at all

>>9588703
>mathematicians had more autism level.

>>9588294
Newtonian physic get linked to engineer.
Einstein, Quantum Mechanics and works in Atomic bomb rebuild interest on physic.
Some people start write Sci-Fi using shitty physic get interest on Quantum mechanics, inter planet travel, worm holes, start general divulgation on physic as part Sci-Fi pop nerd culture.

Because you can make colorful analogies to help people understand things in physics and give them a false sense of superiority. Like the bowling ball and the trampoline to explain how mass warps time and space.

All the people RIPing the cripple are just I fucking love science normies.

>>9588612

Yes.

>>9588621

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

>>9588294
It's a kike scam. You can spout whatever non-sense about cool sounding shit as a physishit because the normies have no idea what actual physishits do, it's not so easy with other STEM-fields because the normies have a vague idea about what they entail. It's kinda like the corrupted church of the past, where they sell """miracles""" (I FRIGGING LOVE SCIENCE XD) for public (((research funds))).

>>9588294

Because people like to listen to his lies in order to reinforce their disbelief in God and the EXTREMELY PAINFUL punishment that is coming to them.

>>9588835
>>9588848
>they're kikes
>they're atheists
make up your mind

>>9588873
Most famous atheists are, in fact, crypto jews. You must be young.

>>9588909
>to be in a religion of god, you must also disbelieve in it
what's it like being a brainlet

>>9588294
The current batch of popularizers don't believe in god (even though they've merely replaced god with quantum woowoo). But most enginiggers are religious and conservative so obviously they're not allowed to speak on anything.

>>9588914
I don’t think you understand.

>>9588916
I don't understand how someone can be this retarded

>>9588310
Even if physics is fundamental there are many problems too complex for it to answer. I'm a geologist. Try using physics to map the movement of underground aquifers or the transpiration rate of a riparian zone of a river system or the movement rate of rock in the Mohorovic Discontinuity. We can't even predict earthquakes or volcanoes, we have to use information of past ruptures and eruptions to predict upcoming events, we cannot use physics.

My father was a physicist who worked for JPL for 25 years. I recall a conversation I had when I was in school about the difficulties in calculating a river's discharge rate in the future based on rainfall patterns in the present and how little we know because of the complexity of the problem and he told me about problems they faced as rocket scientists trying to predict how a rocket would interact with all the atmospheric conditions it'll face trying to reach orbit. The problem was too difficult for physics to answer, they just had to go out and blow up a bunch of rockets till they learned what worked.

A trained geologist is far better at answering questions about the dangers of a building in a landslide zone than a physicist. So worshiping physics like we do is disheartening.

>>9588921
You seem to think physics is math.

>>9588920
Nice reply, but you don’t understand what we’re implying here. Crypto-Judaism is the secret adherence to Judaism while publicly professing to be of another faith. Atheism, though not a religion, is used by the Jew to attack Christianity and create a godless, degenerate society.

>>9588928
Uhhhhh, ok? Simple example. Physics is what's driving water in a river down to the ocean. It's just gravity, the hydrogen bonds of water, and friction.

So, I have say 2000 liters per second of water moving through a river with a stream gradient of 2 meters per kilometer. Please tell me how much water I will have for use on a farm 400 kilometers downstream.

Good luck ...... you're fucked

>>9588939
And why would they want to do that?

>>9588485
Sour Grapes: The Post

>>9588294
>Oh yes Dr. Kaku, please explain the design faults of nuclear reactors, it surely ties into your field of theoretical physics.

Fucking hate this clown.

>>9588960
An deeply seated hatred of Christianity and to control the goyim.

>>9588939
I understand the implications that you want to believe a religious group wants to use a group of non believers as a weapon against another religious group. In the end no one believes in god, so jews also lose their sway in their mind control schemes.

What I don't understand is how does this not sound retarded.

>>9588993
>Jews
>losing
Do you live under a rock?

>>9588998
good goyim

>>9588957
>>9588921
This guy knows what's up. Physics deals with ideal and abstract concepts while other stem fields deal with reality and applying solutions. There is nothing wrong with either field, they are just two different mindsets solving two different problems.

It would be like trying to use a drill to put a nail through a board. Drills are great for screws, but horrible for nails. You need to use the right tools for the job.

>>9588294
Do normies know Edward Witten? .
(and his huge brain?)

>>9588294
Reminder That Elon Musk has Physics BSc

>>9588362
Mandelbrot, and that's only second hand, as it were.

>>9588921
How to transport a cow:

>mathematician
assume the cow is a torus
>physicist
assume the cow is a sphere of uniform density in a vacuum
>Engineer
assume the cow is sufficiently restrained
>psychology
we must first understand why are you moving a cow
>gender studies
assume the cow is a bull

>>9589125

>gender studies
assume that bull semen is cow milk

>>9589125
Do one for economics

>>9588294
Engineering already gets enough funding.

Math doesn't care.

>>9588294
>Why are there so many celebrity (((phycisists)))
You just answered your own question m80

>>9589347
Pay someone else to move the cow.

>>9589347
>economics
If the market wanted the cow in a different location it would already be there.

>>9589381
Like Kaku the Kike?

>>9589125
>MBA
Get Indian H1B workers say Indian had valuable experience about transport cow that Americans.

>>9588659
Who is this guy?

>>9588406
India really fucked with the meaning of engineer.

>>9588921
>what is FEA
have you been out of the field for decades grampa?

>>9588671 >>9589533

A math genius called Terence Tao

Age 7 - begins High School
Age 9 - begins University
Age 10,11,12 - bronze, silver and gold medal at International Math Olympics
Age 16 - Math Bsc with Honours
Age 17 - Math MSc with Honours
Age 21 - Math PhD in Princeton
Age 24 - Professor at UCLA
Age 31 - Fields Medal aka "Nobel" of Math

>>9589645
>can't even beat question 6
DROPPED

>>9589645
I wonder what it would feel to be engineered to be a "genius" from a young age.

>>9588372
True, but he also came up with the idea of memes and while most people don't know what the concept of a meme actually is or that he came up the it, they have heard of it.

but that's just a derivative of physics

>>9589645
Oh my what a cute precocious child, I hope his much older classmates /ss/ed him plenty.

>>9589645
>starts hs at age 7
fucking pleb, not starting hs at 4.

>>9589645
One of the few progenies who actually also turned out to be a talented researcher.

>>9589645
ok but what has he actually done? anything useful?

>>9589645
>starts hs at age 7
fucking pleb, not starting hs at -1

>>9590182
Fields medal ("Nobel in Math") for Green–Tao theorem (Number Theory). It hasn't any userful application.

Useless. But that's not a surprise, since most of pure mathematicians are focusing in useless things nowadays.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Tao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green%E2%80%93Tao_theorem

>>9588294
Why not an algebraic geometer pop star?

>>9590401
Even few B.S Math know about A.G

>>9588294
Physics is the only real science
Biology, chemistry, compsci etc should all be reclassified as arts programs

is it because other fields are still making a lot of progress but physics needs to distract from the 30years flaccid penis?

>>9588703
Like what? I'm legit interested.

>>9588294 >>9590414
Physics master race

>>9590530
oh no no don't let the feminists see this

>>9588294
Craig Venter

>>9588835
There are lots of religious undertones to physics in general

>>9588362
because high level mathematicians just play little games with math and there's no real objective connection to reality, unlike physics

>>9590182
expanding the fields of mathematics is useful in itself, as it causes other people to learn about the new horizons which often become useful later.

just think about all the places pi shows up outside of geometry. same with e.
the Lorentz transformations were pure mathematics before it was discovered they were perfect for describing large parts of Special Relativity. your gps wouldn't work without it.
Mandelbrot and all the fractal shit later became useful in chaos theory for understanding things as various as drips from a faucet, how a tree grows, predicting the spread of disease, and managing the flow of traffic in large metropolitan areas.

it's probably not the standard, but it can become useful later, and since we can afford to pay nerds to think, it's good for us. i wonder what else Newton could have found if he didn't have to spend time inventing calculus to further his scientific work.

>>9588362
mathematicians are virgins

>>9588485
stop replying to everyone dumbass

>>9589125
>philosopher
u can't know how to transport a cow. u can't even know that u can't know how to transport a cow

>>9588294
Because it's the only field in STEM that contains so much intellectual wankery and dick waiving contests. Also normies can relate their normie sci-if shows with it.

>>9589645
It's too bad his brilliant mind is wasted on a useless field as pure mathematics.

>>9588294
because physics attracts dominant people. even for just an undergrad in physics you have people like dread pirate robert (silkroad dude) and musk
it's also a male dominated field like engineering and computers science and both of those have nye and tesla and kurzweil and bezos (you can probs find more) in that order
other fields in stem that are 50/50 or female dominated like math, biology, chemistry, etc don't attract the same people and are usually not as well rounded as physics majors. as well mathematicians are autists and their specialized knowledge doesn't really let them speak to the public to get popular like most of the dudes listed in this thread

>>9588362
too abstract and divorced from reality

>>9588294
lets compare Chemistry to Physics

>black holes and universe ending shit

>organic chem
>inorganic
>analytical

I have a few mates who are engineers and physicists and hell will freeze over before they talk to me for more about chem than the 5 minutes it takes me to explain something that might be relevant to their work once every 6 months

>>9589645
If he would've dedicated his work to computer science, we would have fully functional VR by now.

>>9593024
But instead Terence Tao dedicated his work to the most useless branch of pure math: number theory.

If He studied Medicine, he could discover a cure for Cancer, Aids or Ageing.

If He studied Engineering or Physics, he could create the technology for Interstellar Space Travel & we could colonize the universe.

But instead he chose Pure math ... and pure mathematicians hate any practical applications.

>>9593051
source?

>>9593062
>>9593051
He discovered this useless math theorem from number theory

Green-Tao theorem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green%E2%80%93Tao_theorem

& received Fields medal for that (the greatest prize in Math, equivalent to Nobel in other fields)

But why receive the greatest math prize for such useless discovery?

>>9589645
Asians are big fucking liars, even their governments help their lies so much, if he achives anyhthing in his whole life, I swear to god that I will burn my PhD certificate

because physics is a reddit meme

>>9589645 >>9593067

He invented Compressed Sensing.
A signal processing technique for Electrical Engineering.

He isn't only a top tier pure mathematician
But also a top tier applied mathematician as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed_sensing#History

>>9588362
maths are for nerds

>>9588485
Kys

>>9589003
Lmao

>>9589661
>tfw I actually managed to solve that problem in 30min by a mere coincidence

>>9588362
Have you SEEN the tao worshipping on this board?
If terry drops tomorrow it'd make hawkins look like a fire cracker going off next to hiroshima.

Advanced physics are so esoteric now you can produce work that changes practically nothing about how we live and it furthers the field dramatically
All normies know about Hawking and Kaku is "they developed theories". Because this is the most a physisist could do.
You're an award winning Biologist? Cured anything lately?
Award winning Chemist? Can you le make le drugs le
Award winning Computer Scientist? Wow how much money do you make :OOO
Award winning physisisisisisit? You advanced theories concerncing scenarios we will never prove to the layman with practical improvements in his car? neat

>>9588485
Highest IQ in this thread.

>>9593377
>Advanced physics are esoteric ...
>changes .. nothing about how we live

Yeah. Example: Gravitaional Waves,
Called the "greatest" scientific discovery of 2017.

It's USELESS for our daily lives.

And it was predicted by EINSTEIN
a f*cking CENTURY AGO,
so NO NOVELTY whatsoever.

How knowing about gravitational waves from colliding
neutron stars would have any utility at all?
It's f*cking USELESS!

>>9593431
>knowing more about nature and the universe is a waste

no, you're a fucking waste of a brain

>>9588294
Because normies can relate to physics because sci-fi.
Everyone knows what are black holes, time travel, space travel, and all that shit. And they know physicists study stuff like that.
Now ask a normie what are discret mathematics, and what a chemist does besides drugs.
Also, CS and engineering have lots of celebs too

>>9593443
>CS ... too

But Richard Stallman has a BSc in Physics from Harward (He dropped out PhD)

Stallman is praised on >>>/g/
and one of the most famous programmers / computer hackers.

But He was originally a Physics BSc.

>>9593443
>and what a chemist does besides drugs.
I, too, would like to know this.

>>9593455
Except that was before he became a self-proclaimed PhD in philosophy and human rights after not being spoonfed the source code for a printer driver (yet still calling himself a hacker). Also, his physics must be pretty rusty for him to compare pregnancy with electron spin.

>>9593455
>Harward
*Harvard

>>9593361
Yes, on this board dedicated to science and MATH.

I'm taking about the typical guy in the street- he would know of Hawking and Tyson, but he will not know who the fuck Tao is.

>>9588294
Because physicists dont actually do anything and so they have plenty of time for pr and trying to get famous

>>9588693
Dawkins invented memes

>>9588693 >>9588701 >>9593518
DNA was discovered by James Watson & Francis Crick. Both are quite famous.

But Francis Crick is actually a Physics PhD working in Biophysics. A Bio-Physicist.

And the Biologist James Watson was criticized as Racist after He said that Blacks are dumber. So now Leftists & Normies hate him.

>>9593537
Don't forget that they stole the nobel prize from Rosalind Franklin.

>>9588485
wow I bet you must be fun at parties

>>9593537
They didn't discover DNA you fool. That was done by Friedrich Miescher some hundred years before them. They just solved its double helix tertiary structure.

>>9594443
OK. They discovered DNA true shape : double helix.

>>9593431
And this is why you will never be remembered.
Your lack of imagination is your failure.
With this new knowledge, and confirmation, we can change the way we build machines on a micro, and macro scale with this in mind, using this predictive power to our advantage by taking into consideration the movement of an object's torodial eminating field will alter the space around it.
Fucking... how are you so unimagnative?

>>9588294
CS has Stallman, Trolvadus, Carmack, Stroustrup, math has people like Tao, idk what you're talking about.

>>9594425
Thank you. While those hacks were playing with their molecular modeling toys she was doing the real work.

>>9594741
shhhhhhhhhh

>>9588294
Because it's all or mostly made up make believe that no one can prove or disprove and they can claim new discoveries and keep the billions flowing to the labs and none of it falls into top secret because it's theory and speculation and some photoshopping and animation, so it's super easy to make up a segment or a program or a pop appearance on the latest crap from some paper or lab or claim some freak has (like water power or free energy car) ... and the field is related to all the science fiction - time warps, star wars, terminator, etc

>>9594734
The average person will NOT know who the fuck those people are. Don't act like they are even half close to Hawking or Tyson fame level.

>>9588294
because the real science is being done by chemists

>>9588294
any hollywood jew movies on the other fields?
make a list of the movies that need these hacks to comment on the ideas presented
make a list of the "discovery" frauds these famous hacks need to make comments on in the other stem fields

let the real hero teach the real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfTaH13zAUA

>>9594714
>And this is why you will never be remembered.
Implying that any of /sci/ anons will be remembered?

99% of scientists living on Earth will be simply forgotten by people.

Normies don't know even who Peter Higgs, Leonard Susskind & Edward Witten are.

In few hundred of years not even Stephen Hawkings will be remembered.

>>9594714
>And this is why you will never be remembered.
Implying that any of /sci/ anons will be remembered?
99% of scientists living on Earth will be simply forgotten by people.

Normies don't know even who are , Edward Witten, Peter Higgs, Leonard Susskind, Roger Penrose regardless of their important contribution

Stephen Hawking was overrated just because he was a disabled crippled. Used as a facebook motivational meme "if he can so you too". His contribution was mediocre.

>>9595699
>Normies don't know even who are , Edward Witten, Peter Higgs, Leonard Susskind, Roger Penrose regardless of their important contribution

Normies don't know even who are Edward Witten, Peter Higgs, Leonard Susskind, Roger Penrose despite their important *contributions

>>9588485
>people disagreeing with this post
the absolute state of nu-/sci/

>>9589644
>FEA
Interesting. To be fair this is not in the least related to my field. I'm sure geophysicists would know all about FEA but I'm a general geologist.

Most problems in geology are handled by examining past events and similar analogs (such as the previous question of river output at a distance) then shoving it all through a computer to look at averages and creating a searchable database.

Got a river with X qualities? Our database of 50,000 rivers says it should have a mean output of Y. Even when you create computer models it still makes it impossible to accurately predict a river's behavior without showing up in person to look at what the streambed is made of making the work of a hydrologist or geologist useful. Since a river's length is measured in hundreds of miles

>>9595721
Most of the replies didn't disagree, mass replying's just equivalent to autistic screeching.

>>9588362
>tfw too intelligent for pop culture

>>9588873
“Kikes” are a subset of Jews who are in the synagogue of Satan. The average jew spends his time like any other human, while every waking moment of the kike is dedicated to destroying god’s creations

>>9588317
kek

>>9595785
>kikes are inferior a sub human race
>kikes are superior since we can't do anything about it

the absolute state of /pol/

>>9595805
/pol/ doesn't think jews are stupid, just evil

>>9595827
this.

/pol/ thinks that Jews are evil and cunning Con-men. Clever for evil purposes.

>>9588294
most became famous from the popularity of Acient Aliums and the such

>>9595853
I wonder what percentage of the 3000 or so people who died on 9/11 knew that I am Mr. 47

>>9588659
>>9595758

>>9593087
He won a Fields medal, and he's lived in the West for his entire life.

>>9595785
>>9595805
I've never seen /pol/ post this, what the fuck?

>>9588362
I don't know. I think it is because pop-math articles are always boring as fuck with horrible metaphors whereas "TIME TRAVEL BLACK HOLES ALIEN LIFE" is more attention grabbing.

>>9588485
reddit spacing: the post

>>9589034
no the [math]\mathbb{PHENOTYPE} [/math] is our secret to protect

>>9593431
you know, you can swear on the internet kid, but this site is for those over the ages of 18

>>9588960
if people dont believe in god then the most powerful thing in their lives is the government

>>9596676
The most powerful thing in our lives IS government, whether you believe in magic or not.