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If waves are defined as a transfer of energy through a medium, then how can light travel in a vacuum?

>> No.9578719
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9578719

>>9578713
I'd transfer my dick into their ass.

>> No.9578720

>>9578713
Jesus Christ save me, get that picture off sci there is too much skin showing. We are all virgins here and we don't need that kind of distraction from our work.

>> No.9578721

>>9578713
That's not how waves are defined, so your thread is pointless

>> No.9578725

>>9578713
Where are waves defined this way?

>> No.9578730

saved

>> No.9578733

>>9578713

space time bitch

>> No.9579103

>>9578713
Imagine photons as pulsating particles instead of solid beads. Our perception of them is as a sine wave but in 3D space the photon is swelling and contracting... maybe.
There is a fuck ton we just don't know about photons.

>> No.9579124

>>9578713
>waves are defined as a transfer of energy through a medium, then how can light travel in a vacuum?

Space-Time itself is a medium.

A true void would be jet black however anything in the horizon of it emitting energy into it would probably be visible, assuming it is non-lethal.

>> No.9579623

>>9578713
why does she have her finger on her mouth telling me to be quiet? She's in a picture she cant hear me so its okay

>> No.9579629

>>9578713
Aether.

>> No.9579635

light is ~like~ a wave, but it's also ~like~ a particle

>> No.9581153

>>9578713
I've always seen it as the wave kind of creates its own medium. A magnetic field collapses, and a changing magnetic field always creates an electric field. An electric field always creates a magnetic field. This magnetic field then collapses as the electric field dies away and it repeats. The only thing the speed depends on is how fast the electric and magnetic signals can transfer themselves (Maxwell's equations about permittivity and permeability of free space).

Regardless, waves are not defined in this way so your question isn't really valid.

>> No.9581171

>>9579103
No. Einstein said one of his biggest irks was pseudo-scientists telling him they thought they knew what a photon was. The point is, if you can travel alongside one, you don't travel. Time does not pass and you go an infinitely small distance in no time (special relativity). We struggle to define something that exists for no time.
If you travel slightly slower than it, it doesn't matter; it still zips away at 3*10^8 m/s. So it's pretty much impossible to observe.
The question is, does it matter? We know what it does under certain conditions, why should we have to know why? We could dedicate those scientific resources to other more important areas like medicine.

>> No.9581178

>>9579635
More specifically, it behaves like a wave as it is travelling but must be emitted and absorbed in discrete packets. Making measurements of "position" also tends to "localize" this wave and make it spread out from that measured position.