/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9548828
How many peer-reviewed papers have you published?

>>9548842
>peer-reviewed papers

None, but I know a college professor that drove straight into flood waters

>>9548828
why do you have to take an IQ test anon?
and if it's for a job, sue for workplace discrimination

>>9548845
Because I want to put a number on myself to have security that I'm at least mentally average.

Me and my friend are both thinking we're slow/stupid after we left high-school.

Today I had to cut a piece of door trim and install it, and I did it an overly complicated way that my dad did way more cogently than me. It made me want to cry.

I don't know what I am anymore. I have no one to compare myself against.

>>9548863
Anon your dad is just more handy, that's all. You are not stupid, if you cant do one think. Chin up

>>9548828
Everyone going to college took the sat/act test. There is somewhat of a correlation. It use to strongly correlated before the internet. Now every brainlet can study near identical questions online for free and get a +2000 score and be on a tier that was once genius status.

>>9548828
You're somewhat conscientious, so that's a good sign at least. You're not a moron, OP. Don't even bother taking the test. Just focus on learning and bettering yourself.

>>9548933
>Your dad is just more handy

The issue is that it's all the same thing.
It was a problem that needed to be solved, and I was successful, but I also failed.

This keeps happening in my life over and over.
It's in the math that I do. It's in the ineffective way I design things.

It's a recurring pattern that I'm probably not a smart man. I'm just scared I'm a stupid man, and that's why I'm 21 and don't have a driver's license.

>>9548944
find something you enjoy doing and practice at it until you get good.

>>9548944

how old are you anon?

how old is your dad?

how many more years of problem solving experience does he have than you?

>>9549045
I'm 21, and he's 60

I had never seen the problem before (It was the header of door casing, but there was a wall that forced you to cut it short but precise) , but he has been doing carpentry since he was 16.

It was pic related

Normally you just attach a tape measure to the outside of the door casing on both pieces and measure it and cut it on a 45, but you couldn't do that due to ripped-down trim.

I ended up working backwards and measuring the door casing, butting my tape to the start of the ripped-down door casing (where the 45 begins), and adding 3 and a 1/2 inches (the size of a full piece) to the full measurement to make-up for the fact that it was short on the other side, and then I measured the cut-casing to find-out where I had to blunt the 45 to match the wall.

All I had to do was butt my tape like I had, take that measurement to the saw, cut away from that, and measure where the 45 ended on the ripped-down casing to get a blunted end.

I essentially ended up working backwards and wasting time.

>>9548828
Your education.

>>9548828
SAT or ACT scores.

>>9548863
Who cares if you're dumb or smart if you got a roof over your head and aren't starving

>>9549083
>I'm 21, and he's 60
he has a life time of practical hands-on problem solving experience. you are literally an infant compared to his knowledge and experience
but that's no reason to feel bad about yourself. treasure your father for what he is and learn what you can from him, by the time you are his age you too will be skilled and handy.

rest assured in the fact that you are young and have a lifetime ahead to learn and grow

>>9548828
>asked the wise successful man how he became a success
>"by making the right decisions" he said
>how did you learn to make right decisions?
>by making many wrong decisions

OP, this is the winnowing. carving the perfect man from the rough ashlar

>>9549083
>I essentially ended up working backwards and wasting time.

oh

happens.

new developers often struggle with that problem. They think they can do everything and anything (and they could, if they had enough steam), and start working on shit without thinking about it. they sometimes get the job done, but an experienced person would simply shake their head at it because it's a fucking mess and took 100 times longer than it could have.

The problem is not that you're dumb per se, it's that you like to rush headfirst into things without thinking about whether the first plan that pops into your head is actually the best plan.

It'll come with experience in problem solving. You learn that skill implicitly in most trades with time.

>>9549349
>It'll come with experience in problem solving. You learn that skill implicitly in most trades with time.
all of this OP.

>>9548828
General achievement tests correlate pretty well. Look up linear regression formulas for the SAT in the year you took it. ACT, GRE, et al work well too.

>>9548863
"I only know that I know nothing" - Plato

If you're smart enough to wonder whether you're stupid or not, that's definitely a good sign.

Truly stupid people never question their own genius. See also: Trump.

>>9550311
>trump meme
>le I must be smart if i have even the most basic levels of introspection or insecurities

>>9550321
this
>>9550311
>president of USA is dumb
nah

>>9548941
>Now every brainlet can study near identical questions online for free and get a +2000 score and be on a tier that was once genius status.
The SAT/ACT are standardized tests, anon.

You show signs of asperger.

>>9550331

>>9550321
He didn't say that, he said it's good sign. Notice how pol is easily the dumbest living group of people in human civilization and they can never, ever be wrong. If they're proven wrong they just call you a shill and abandon the thread or start spamming .jpgs. The dumber you are, the less likely you are to question your own opinions or beliefs.

>>9548828
play chess for a while. Your percentile placement is a good indicator

>>9550879
I agree with the statement that the more intelligent you are the more introspective you tend to be.

Its just you really shouldn't use it as a source of comfort because it is not the same as proof of your intelligence.

Also trump has become the new Godwin's law.

>>9548828
the SAT/ACT is highly correlated with IQ scores

>>9551721
This is some shit. SAT/ACT has math problems that are absurdly easy. It comes down to less than logical capacity and more the ability to not fuck up adding 2+2.

>>9548828
An IQ test is, by definition, a test which tests your ability to solve problems you aren't accustomed to solving on the spot. If that isn't a good marker for intelligence I don't know what is. Just take a few online IQ tests.

It's hard to tell. My father, for instance, has an extremely high IQ > 160. However he is so plain and ordinary in everyway and dropped out of highschool. His good common sense is the only indication of his intelligence.

>>9548863
Comparing yourself to others is not conducive to happiness. Also, you can do better next time plus your dad has been around longer and gained knowledge and wisdom

>>9549083
Do you find yourself reverse engineering stuff or viewing the end result and going backwards? This is actually a sign of high intelligence but maybe just take steps to ensure you are using knowledge applied correctly at the appropriate times. Quite often i read pages and websites backwards or bottom up, but if i tried reading a speech in this manner i would surely falter

>>9548828
>can't be assed to spend half an hour doing logic puzzles
Brainlet for sure, 100iq at best

If you laugh at this image, you either have an IQ under 77 or over 130
If you do not laugh at this image, you are probably a normalfag, which means you're not autistic, which in turn means you're probably neither exceptionally smart or exceptionally stupid.
kot.jpeg remains a valued tool for clinical psychologists the world over.

>>9548828
Don't fall into this trap. Just do the work that you do best and put forth good effort into it. If there are two thing IQ is good at measuring, then it is job proficiency and aptitude.

Job markets are, mostly, set up in a way as to reward people based on the skills and ingenuity that a person can bring to the table. Let's say you are good at plumbing and people in the field of plumbing come to you because of your level of plumbing expertise, then you would be able to search up the IQ range of plumbers and plop yourself at the high end of that IQ range, and then you would have a damn good approximation as to what your true IQ is; however, the smartest people in the room are not the types to give a shit about IQ.

Could someone who has the IQ of 140 work in the realm of plumbing? Sure, but the likelihood of that is small. There is potentially the same likelihood of someone with an IQ of 100 working as a neurosurgeon--small.

Do not feel that you are mentally inferior because you cannot do certain things other feel as being common knowledge. Shit.. Ben Carson got to the top of the medical field, but thinks the pyramids are grain silos. If you passed high school, then you are fine anon. Just find multiple things you may be interested in, try them out, and stick to the ones that you know you would be able to do. Do that, make money being damn good at it, and you can just forget about IQ.

>>9548828
>tfw you refuse to take an iq test because you're afraid that it might shatter your sense of intellectual superiority, taking away the one and only thing you've ever had to be proud of