/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9545645
Talent, as such, dosn`t exist. Brain plasticity means that you didn`t get enough useful exposure to change yourself for the better.
So, to keep this short, blame your parents.

>>9545667
What abt IQ, g-factor, other such heritable cognitive traits that have low correlation with parenting success & have high correlation with success in STEM academia?

>>9545672
They don`t affect your outcome, only your starting position. If you put hard work into it and are well educated from a young age those have a ever dimishing effect, to be almost completly inconsequential.
Now, that of course dosn`t apply to legitimate retards (like sub-110 iq brainlets; Downies; Or anyone visiting /pol/), but none of that should apply to you hopefully, so it really is just a problem of not enough work being put in from an early age.

>>9545674
Well I'm still in undergrad so if you're right hopefully I still have time to successfully "put in work", as per the poet A$AP Ferg.

My biggest fear is honestly that I'll shed blood, sweat, and tears and do just fine and end up in a decent position doing decent work at a decent school in a decent field. And all it'll give me is the opportunity to see and work with people much smarter than I am or ever could be work on problems much more consequential and demanding than I could ever hope to touch. "The prince of mediocrity" etched on my gravestone. Fuck.

Thanks a lot, by the way, for entertaining my depressing late-night thoughts, anon. I don't know you, but, thank you.

>>9545677
"There will always be someone better than me" is something normies and brainlets say to make themself feel better about not putting in effort and failling. The truth is that (excluding the odd Aspie) all the people at the top of a field got there by putting in hard work, blood and sweat, but the good thing is that you seem more than ready to do that, which is already more than most people will ever achieve.
Keep your will strong and your mind sharp, and you can conquer the world. And if all else fails, crowbar those fuckers

Asian dramatically underperform their supposed IQ. So either they suck at other things like creativity, which is a cliche thing to say, or they have a lower SD but a higher average IQ, meaning there aren't that many asians who are true geniuses.

Jews have bred themselves average. They were smart like 40-100 years ago before they went on a dysgenic purge of their high IQ genes (high IQ jews rarely have many children and usually with nonjews).

>>9545685
this is bullshit. the REAL truth is that a tiny group of elite educators control specific talents and methods of technique which can only be learned through indoctrination at top schools. Someone of mediocre intelligence can learn to become a powerful player through the indoctrination system, and their path is paved by access to their network of political and economic power connections. The work-hard-get-grades-be-smart myth is perpetuated by shitty state-college tier profs who will never rise to greatness because they want to USE YOU for their own mediocre purposes. If you recognize that you're being exploited in this fashion and are not in a top tier school with access to their training methodology GET OUT NOW.

>>9545686
*asians underperform in scientific accomplishment, not unviversity admissions. They seem very adept at being fast and accurate with easy algebra 1 questions on the SAT. This hasn't translated into nearly as many math or science discoveries as one would expect.

>>9545685
Thanks for the advice, anon. I guess I should buy a crowbar. But until then I should finish my linear algebra homework.

>>9545690
kek
But really Ivy profs typically just know how to be "interesting" -- read Politically Correct or trolling just enough -- enough to get citations.

>>9545690
LOL, what's with the /pol/ influx into /sci/ recently?

The nice thing about pure math is that there's no such thing as "indoctrination". Certain problems are objectively important, certain answers are objectively correct. It's like, it doesn't matter whether the universities are run by Jews, reptiles, or aliens from higher spatial dimensions. If someone came out tomorrow with a proof on arXiv that BQP ⊂ NP, that would be objectively mind-shattering, both because of it's implications and because of how long people have been working on it to no avail. And everyone would have to recognize it, regardless of sociopolitical affiliation.

>>9545690
Well, I think I have also provide all that you (or any other anon) can do in such a case

>>9545699

How does that work in a world with 100 page proofs and controversies like the Poincare conjecture? Do you just go with whatever journalists say?

What about people who can't get anyone to read their work?

Many areas of math are extremely narrow and only a few people are capable of checking proofs. How does politics not play a part?

>>9545645
I used to get caught up in thoughts like this but then I realised that it's out of my control what Genes I have so it's pointless to dwell on something like that and that thinking about that just takes away from time spend solving problems. The more problems you solve no matter how small make you better and better.

Why compare yourself to others in the first place. You have no idea the insane amount of variables that went into their life before they were born that made them the way they are and their day to day life would be completely different from yours saying as they aren't you. By this logic it only makes sense to measure yourself against who you were in the past compared to what you do now.

All that is to justify the cliche of "As long as you're better than you yesterday". I talk to a lot of old people, a lot of them I know in my family are ex-teachers, professors, etc. and they all seem to have the mentality that wasting your time looking at others doing what they do with the purpose of beating yourself down is worse than doing nothing. My grandmother (Retired Mathematician) told me to "Just do what needs to be done in your work because you could have been born paralysed or brain damaged and instead you're a bright, able-bodied, and capable young man"

>>9545645
Can't help but point out that asians aren't that smart, they're smart for the hard work they put in and possibly a healthier lifestyle (except for the added stress). Jews are arguable depending on the region as some really are genetically predisposed.
I'm only in the infant stage to being a physics major but I do get upset when there're smarter people, it doesn't dwell long when these "thousands" are just working harder or using better study tactics. But when there're genuinely intelligent people they honestly tend to be the most worthwhile people to meet and chat with as they also have very different experiences than the masses. One kid in my freshman calculus course always got bored during the lectures and would just read Stephen King books, a different one every other day, he would flip through a page half the time it would take a smart person to. He was also highly socially anxious and moody at times where he would have fits at the teacher and get thrown out from time to time. It was always the same, either correcting the professors grammars or that the professor didn't touch on any proofs and then later coming to his senses and go back to reading and being anxious all over again. He was a lot of fun to talk to, honestly since we both liked programming just to look at weird simulations like a conglomerate of shapes to look like we were getting high and weird fractals spinning or following some parametric equation we came up with, guessed we warmed up together also because I'm just as anxious but just not as frustrated. I would say, didn't achieve much in school but not because he wasn't smart it was a lack of trying and poor environmental factors. I'm envious of his intelligence but not his position.

>>9545878
>Why compare yourself to others in the first place.

Because I'm a human being. We're a competitive species. We thrive off of validation and are constantly assessing the relative status of ourselves and others, in every way possible.

Why do kids worry about grades? Why do humans get militant about their favorite sports teams winning/losing? Why do kids play competitive video games 13 hours a day? Why do men brag about how many women they've been with?

We love, and must, judge each other and reduce each other to relative comparisons. All the world's a race, and all the men and women merely contestants.

>>9545674
>They don`t affect your outcome, only your starting position.
>Now, that of course dosn`t apply to legitimate retards (like sub-110 iq brainlets; Downies; Or anyone visiting /pol/)
In other words: you´ve backtracked on your uninformed claims.

PS. The cutoff for success in STEM-related academia is situated far above 110, mr. 111 IQ brainlet.

>>9545715
>How does politics not play a part?
What on earth makes you believe that every mathematician capable of peer-reviewing groundbreaking mathematical discoveries belongs to the same political faction? It would be a requirement for your absurd conspiracy.

>>9545645
>suicidal about being a brainlet
you have it backwards op,

you are a brainlet precisely because you’re suicidal about being a brainlet

You carry around a brainlet mindset more than likely and limit yourself from doing anything

>>9545645
Analytic philosopher here.

Nah, believe that I am the smartest human alive.

Self-hatred and doubt will get you nowhere in social hierarchy. The most competent are the most hubrious ones.

>>9545645
Realize that hard work plays a huge role in how well you do. Some on sci will have you believe those with math PhDs are all savants and just look at something and know it. This just ain't true. Some people can do that, the vast majority of even the "smart" portion of humans can'.
And stop comparing yourself to others, just work as hard as you can.

>>9545645
The funny thing about these extreme high achievers is that they always aim for the stars, where it's extremely competitive and the room for improvement and creativity is ever smaller (HEP, cosmology, whatever), while us - the brainlets - understand that there are fields that are much more open for advancement and indeed do receive most grants, prizes, etc. They aren't that intelligent after all.

>>9545645
You do it because you enjoy it and because it feels naturally on you, if you are so objective oriented why not go to a career where your work is more tangible, like engineering?

>>9545645
nah i enjoy the subject matter too much to want to kill myself over it

if i killed myself over it i wouldn't be able to keep learning it

>comp sci
>big brained
You guys realize you and biologists are the laughing stock of STEM right?

>>9546150
That is not what I meant by politics, but I will go with it. It absolutely could affect the peer review process. What makes mathematicians immune to bias and petty vindictiveness? Nothing. Saying "groundbreaking" does not change human nature.

No I don't because it's a mental trick that you play on yourself. Despite what general society or different groups might push you into believing you have no obligation to compete with the uber smart. And honestly that's what some (not all) uber smart people hope you do in the first place.

If you waste your time trying to compete with them on the exact same terms you will spend all your time playing catch-up instead of carving out your own niche.

That's why all these constant comparisons using metrics like academic grades/tests, psychometric scores, and finances is bullshit. Most of the famous mathematicians, scientists and artists didn't spend their time trying to compete with others. They spent their time doing their own unique subject matter or neglected subject matter. Do you think Archimedes, Newton and Di Vinci spent their every waking hour competing with others? Hell no, they did their own shit and were made famous by it. And last time I checked none of them took a fucking IQ test so we have no idea if they were uber smart or mildly above brainlet status with just a high level of curiosity and observation.

>>9545645
Nope. Never have, never will. I know I'm not a braniac, or genius. I know I'm good at what I do, nonetheless, that helps. Otherwise, I just enjoy my job in science and my aspirations are related to travelling and seeing the world, build personal and professional connections, and just enjoy sweet life.

You guys need to take it easy. It's stressful as it is, no need to knock it up a notch.

>>9545645
>Like no matter how hard you try, there will be 10 thousand über smart Asians and Jews that have the same diligence with a stronger natural talent and will outperform you in every conceivable way?

While they may outperform you now, if you have decent social skills and some confidence you will surpass them easily, depending on the field of course. While the Asians can work hard and get a lot of shit done(and be compensated very well), those who are less productive(only slightly that is) but have the fucking balls to speak out and/or shut someone down will be more successful, because most people are retards. The Jews know this very well and that's why the fucking kill it in general.

OP back.

>>9546171
I wish I could have confidence like that; warranted or otherwise.

>>9546451
Yeah but what if I try as hard as I can but there are a lot of people smarter than me that try just as hard? Wouldn't they make infinitely more important contributions?

>>9546474
If you understand something fundamental that the high achievers don't in going after low-hanging fruit, then by definition you are not the brainlet.

>>9546690
Im not even CS major, im math but
>my academic discipline is better than yours
0/10, try again

>>9546451
>stop comparing myself to others
How

>>9547040
I think that's really my main issue. I can't enjoy sweet life.

>>9547427
why they*

>>9545674

Nurture fags kill me

you can tell who the smart and dumb kids are as early as age 5 or 6, and then the gulf keeps progressively getting worse

>>9546942
I don't think objective metrics are bullshit. The only reason all those people didn't take IQ tests is because the field of psychometrics didn't exist back then. We can't assess what their IQ would've been, but we can observe now that there is a depressingly strong correlation between IQ, achievement test scores, et. al and success in academia, especially the academia of hard sciences, math, CS, philosophy, and economics.

>>9545645
Feeling inferior to these other people is a fallacy. You guys are still mentally children and have not taken the time to establish what you want in life. You have a self esteem that is run off of self perceived success compared to others.

>>9545645
In Analytic Phil and I am contemplating Sepukku this shit is driving me insane.

>>9547445
>you have a self esteem that is run off of self perceived success compared to others.

You imply it's possible to derive your self-esteem from something else????

>>9547448
lol good luck senpai. I have the privilege of just having a passing interest in analytic philo; reading the old plato.stanford.edu article on Wittgenstein every now and then, so I don't feel much pressure. I am being slowly driven insane in math, though.

>>9546700
I think mathematical reasoning is pretty impervious to the bias of political affiliation.

Like, let's compare this to a field where your point might be more cogent : gender psychology, for example. Let's say you were doing a paper on Blanchard's typology of transsexual women, and you finished a rigorous, methodologically sound study that uncovered that autogynephilia was actually not a prevalent phenomenon among the community of individuals who identify as transgender women. So you take your paper, all proud and eager, and submit it to a couple of gender psychology journals. But maybe most academics in gender psychology are actually huge fans of Blanchard. Maybe, by a combination of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias, they decide to vociferously tear apart your paper over the smallest possible errors and entirely resolvable complaints; errors and complaints that they would not have lobbed against pro-Blanchard papers that they have published. Or maybe they do publish it, but most other academics are Blanchard fans, so they don't try to replicate it, and it never gains traction and lives forever in one-study hell. The end goal is that, because it went against the fashionable atmosphere surrounding Blanchard in the academic body politic, no one paid attention to it. Of course, this decreases the number of anti-Blanchard papers that do get put in front of young academics' eyeballs. Which just increases the number of already high Blanchard fans. You can see how this cycle perpetuates. This reasoning works with any field reliant on empirical reasoning. (1)

>>9547501

But math doesn't rely on empirical reasoning. Math just relies on agreed upon manipulations of presupposed axioms. Even if you came out tomorrow with a strong proof for something that the vast majority of mathematicians previously disagreed with (say, P = NP or 2^{\aleph _{\alpha }}>\aleph _{\alpha +1}), there would be nothing that a dumbfounded mathematician could say, so as long as your proof was sound as correct. There would be no "pro-continuum hypothesis" mathematicians; unlike gender psychology, once a mathematical statement has been addressed, it's truth value cannot be debated. You can't present "counter-evidence" or engage in any sort of dialectic that doesn't assume what has been proven formally true. And there's far less emotionality attached to mathematics than, say, to LGBT politics, so there would be far less incidence of cognitive dissonance amongst professional mathematicians "rejecting" your reasoning in the same way that might have in fields of political science or cultural studies. It just wouldn't make sense for a formally correct work on any given open problem to be ignored and to vanish; both because of the apolitical culture of mathematicians and the fundamental nature of mathematics in it's unique ability to derive formal truths. (2)

>>9547509
Holy fuck, I messed that TeX up. Just meant to write "CH is not true", basically disproving ZFC consistency.

>>9545674
>t. 110 IQ who has to work hard just to keep up

>>9546061
Speak for yourself

>>9547589
Actually 120 IQ brainlet-light who decided that taking a low-stress government job is the smartest move he can make.

It is meaningless to compare yourself
Those people are not motivated by jealousy, but their own passion
Just pursue what you are passionate about and it won’t matter to you what the Chinese kike next to you is doing desu

>>9545645
No because asians and jews are retard tier compared to my ultra brain

No, because I'm not retarded. Why go into STEM when you don't have the IQ for it?

I've seen enough asians go through my school's math program to know Asians are not big brained. Maybe it's because most of them have been corrupted by growing up in the US, but honestly most asians at my school were straight from China. I remember I was friends with a few asians in a linear algebra class, freshman year shit, and they just did NOT get it. I even showed them some lectures in Mandarin, and it still didn't go through their big heads. They also thought taking 20 hrs of credit per semester was "too much". 90% of chinks are fucking retarded, 91% of whites are fucking retarded (especially girls, unless they are Russian). Jews on the other hand really do have a reason for why they run the world.

>>9545645

I consider myself intelligent, but I do not consider myself a genius. I'm a programmer by trade, and sometimes I'll come across a younger fellow who can program and understand concepts much faster than I can. Maybe I can't understand complex concepts as quick as a selection of people, but I can stick with it until I do. I'm confident that with the right material and enough tenacity I can understand very difficult concepts.

I make up for the deficiency in intelligence (compared to other geniuses) with my social presence. I can maintain a large friend circle, as well as get people to like me on our first meeting. I'm tall and handsome. I know how to make girls take interest in me for personal gain (Ever charmed an HR lady?). I know how to intimidate people within our social norms. When someone socially challenges me, I do not get on guard, and I do not back away.

I'm opportunistic. I watch which skills are the most lucrative, and I focus on developing them. I maintain my grades just high enough so that I can do my Masters, as any more time invested would give me diminishing returns. I communicate with the right people. I supplement my life with drugs when I need to, while being extremely careful with my consumption.

Being humble about my intelligence means I can learn from other people. People dumber than you know things you don't, anon. Intelligence isn't everything.

>>9548224
You really don't need much more than slightly above average intelligence to succeed in the lower levels of STEM

>Baw I'm smarter than 95% of the population but that guy in my Analysis class is smarter than me.

Please do kill yourself.

>>9545645
>Like no matter how hard you try, there will be 10 thousand über smart Asians
Fair enough
>and Jews
Only if you really are a turbobrainlet. Jews have a very high mean IQ but they're a fart in the wind absolute population-wise.

>>9548290
>I make up for the deficiency in intelligence (compared to other geniuses)
I hope you're just a brainlet with languages because this here makes me imagine pic related

>>9547598
I think anyone (esp. males) who tries to claim that some form competitiveness isn't a crucial part of their lives is being intellectually dishonest. Consider the rhetorical questions I asked and how inherently linked they are with competitiveness. It's basic evolutionary psychology to assume that competitiveness is important for human beings. It's certainly crucially important for me.

>>9548021
I'll try. Thanks for the dog pic.


>>9548224
I can't see myself enjoying anything other than math. I've held jobs before across the board from maintenance cleaning after Staten Island Russians' messy, drunk weddings to IT & programming JavaScript. All were equally miserable.

I think I could only really like doing research, even though I haven't really published anything yet (difficult to do undergraduate research in pure mathematics, as, compared to say, the number of UROP/REU opportunities for biology majors). By my own assessment of the horrible experiences I've had in my non-research jobs, I think research is the only career I could have that wouldn't push me to suicide.

>>9548699
Don't be mean.

Even if I'm smarter than 95% percent of the population, the median intelligence of mathematicians is pretty high. So maybe I'd only be middling in relation to other mathematicians. And even if I were smarter than 95% of mathematicians, that 5% matters.

For example : Right now I'm taking classes that can be accurately summed up as "Honors Introduction to Real Analysis & Linear Algebra". A class with an equivalent name can be found at Harvard; it's called Math 55. Except Math 55 is being taught to freshmen at Harvard. And even though they use the same texts I'm using (Rudin & Axler), the professors regularly go on into tangents in other topics in abstract algebra and topology; stuff I won't touch until I'm a senior or in grad school. And even when they do the same topics I'm doing, they're doing it with much more intensity & under much stronger abstract pretenses. Their problem sets are notoriously 24-hours long.

So, what I'm doing as a junior, these kids are doing as freshmen, except it's much harder and they often go into more advanced topics.

Let's say them and I progress in our mathematical careers at equivalently fast rates. By the time I'm doing my PhD, they will have learned more than me, and they will probably be able to handle problems more difficult than what I could handle.
Even if there's an exceedingly small population of these kids that have been, are, and always will be smarter than I am, isn't the very knowledge of their existence just fucking miserable? Knowing that even if you do decent work at a decent school and get decent results, that there is someone out there who could do what you did in half the time, and just BTFO you in every way? Why even get involved when your existence in the field is so objectively unneccessary as long as they exist?

bruh just work harder

>>9549586
what if they work harder in response

>>9549588
work harderer

>>9549590
what if we're both working as hard as we both possibly can and theyre still smarter than me

>brain envy: the thread

>>9549632
But...what if they're not

>>9549632
deal with it that there will be always someone better than you

what you are thinking about is "abstract thinking"
since most math have no practical use, the brain tends to reject any abstract subjects by default, its a natural resistance to make our brains more efficient.
this is what "adhd" basically is. your brain cannot focus on abstract and empty content, so it denies it.
i hope you learned something today

>>9549549
Just fucking kill them then.

>>9550359
Thanks.

>>9549690
Yes, that beyond counting the number of berries I have to eat or the number of tigers there are in front of me, that math is useless. Thanks, Kaczynski.

I stopped caring about this when I austically taught myself Japanese in 2 years and realized that effort is really the most important thing.

>>9545674
lmao yes they do. We have to facts to support this: 1) IQ changes little over the course of a lifetime. 2) Society is heavily stratified by IQ. Only the latter is dubious, the former you can easily google. Specific examples of the latter are that average freshman IQ at Harvard continued to rise despite them changing their admission policy towards less reliance on standardized testing, the results of which are heavily correlated with IQ. Another example is the average IQs in professions such as mathematics, physics, lawyering, chemistry, etc.

>>9547509
Math doesn't rely upon "agreed upon manipulations of presupposed axioms" it relies on axioms. Only axioms. Stop subtly adding in extra words to make math sound subjective. The brainlets won't notice your ploy and they will believe your lies. Think of the brainlets.

>>9551359
axioms are arbitrary

>>9551365
Yes, so we explore the sets of axioms that seem to yield interesting results. Conclusions drawn from those axioms are still valid.

>>9545645
>get suicidal about being a brainlet?

Yeah, it gets worse when I try to make a bait thread on this board and it's so obvious I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground that no one falls for it.

>>9551359
It can't just be the axioms, Anon. Otherwise we couldn't do anything with them. It has to be the axioms combined with some agreed upon ruleset to manipulate the axiomatic statements into other statements that are tautologies with that ruleset. If we just had ZFC, we could say nothing other than the axioms in ZFC. We need ZFC combined with, say, the rules of inference of first-order logic. That's what I meant by manipulations of axioms; it's symbols on the page and a way to agree on tautological manipulations of those symbols.

>>9552250
You're right, but presupposed is one of those words that shouldn't be word. You supposed in the future.

you honestly have to be an immense cuck to study Maths or Physics with anything less than a 140 IQ and that's pushing it

how fucking retarded can people get? just learn your place. it's not that hard

>>9545645
>tfw Jew

Everyone is a brainlet in comparison to someone else anon...if you can't cut it in math or theoretical physics then you can still be an engineer or software developer etc.

>>9546149
what is the cutoff, 112 IQ brainlet?

>in second abstract algebra course
>barely understand jack shit, despite having 90+ average across my math classes thus far
>considering dropping honors math and finishing my degree with applied math and cs courses

anyone else know this feel? studying pure math feels like a waste of time.

>>9553159
>if you can't cut it in math or theoretical physics then you can still be an engineer or software developer etc.
or a statistician or experimental physicist

>>9553159
>if you can't cut it in math or theoretical physics then you can still be an engineer or software developer etc.
you can still be an applied-mathematician / statistician or experimental-physicist

>>9553185
>if you can't cut it in math or theoretical physics then you can still be an engineer or software developer etc.
you can still be an applied-mathematician / statistician or experimental-physicist / astronomer

>>9553159
>if you can't cut it in math or theoretical physics then you can still be an engineer or software developer etc.

you can still be
an applied-mathematician / statistician / actuary instead of Pure mathematician

or experimental-physicist / astronomer / nuclear engineer instead of Theoretical Physicist

>>9545645
no, mathematics, physics and philosophy are to be pursued by oneself to discover the true nature of the universe, not conform to society and use it as a tool in creation of your self-identity

What's the better option: To pick a great career with lots of opportunities and recognition but be horribly bad at it or pick a mediocre career with very limited paths and be really great at it (top 1%)?

I decided to go full STEM out of fear of getting a useless degree but I completely suck at it

>>9552862
I always wanted to get a formal IQ test but felt the real cuckening would be forking over $100 to Mensa to take a fucking pick-the-shape test. I feel like 125 is at least some sharp lower bound, though, just based on where I'm at and my achievement test scores. Hopefully what it's actually at is good enough.

>>9553159
I would rather be a homeless alcoholic living off of welfare than to drop a subject I honestly love because I'm too dumb to become a code monkey.

>>9553168
Lol, pic saved. Im still at real analysis / linear algebra "done right", and even though I've been doing well so far this is my biggest fear. I'll come to a class that's like "yep, you're past your limit" and be forced to switch to something else.

>>9553200
But Anon, I want to be the big fish in the big pond.

>>9553200
You could try something in between.
Between STEM & Humanities/Business

Such as Economics, Computational Linguistics, Actuarial Math, Finance, etc.

t. true ste(((A)))m degrees.

These degrees are still valuable (unlike things such as Gender studies)

>>9553197
I don't know how else to self-actualize. Literally the only things that give me value and self-worth are 1. I have an attractive girlfriend and 2. I'm doing well in math. If the latter crumbles I pretty much have nothing.

>>9553206
it could be just the prof, everyone thinks the class is really tough. don't quit because of what you read on here

>>9547598
wtf shut up

>>9545674
holly molly there are people who actually believe this

I only care about my own improvement. I used to have low self-esteem like you OP, but then I realized I want to beat myself. The "me" tomorrow is better than the "me" right now. I want to reach over the hill I will be at in 5 years and overlook towards the new horizon. I am fine with pursuing this infinitely and I love what I do. Just remember that time is more valuable than anything else in this life.

>>9545645
I do. I cope by the fact that maybe, by dumb luck, I'll do something neat.

Isn't being diligence also part of the gene? Some people can push studying for hours and others need to kill part of their soul to the devil to seriously study for an hour

>>9545645
Anon, set goals for yourself, not with relation to others. There will always be someone faster, stronger, smarter and better connected. You can't win at the game you are trying to play.

>>9554306
Thanks, man, your outlook is healthy, inspiring, and totally enviable. I wish I could stop comparing myself to others.

>>9554346
This is basically my version of optimism. Maybe I will make a name for myself somehow, out of sheer luck.

>>9555134
But if I forfeit the game I'm trying to play I'll just think about how I had to forfeit, and how that makes me worse. Feels Badman.

As a tangent, I give zero FUCKS about being "better connected", and I think anyone who does immediately comes off as a Patrick Bateman type, especially in that scene when he was obsessing over other peoples' business cards. Obviously I plan on approaching professors to do research and attending conferences to see new, exciting mathematics be presented, but other than that it's nice that pure math is one of those fields where success just seems to be based on your ability to do good mathematical work.

>>9554964
Yeah but what if someone had the diligence gene (allowing them to devote hours and hours) and the talent gene (allowing them to do more work or more challenging work, in less time than someone without the talent gene) and I only have the diligence gene

>>9545645
Why does the existence of many who are smarter make you suicidal? This is a reality for everyone. The acquisition of knowledge and pursuit of greater understanding is not a zero sum endeavor.

So are brainlets /sci/ version of incels?

This is fucking pathetic. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.

Get over yourself faggot.

>>9545645
Are Asians into analytic philosophy though?

>>9545674
>boomer spotted

>>9545645
there's also 7.998 billion people that are stupider than you

>>9545645
>10 thousand über smart Asians and Jews that have the same diligence with a stronger natural talent and will outperform you in every conceivable way?

the intellectual legacy of europe is in no way inferior to that of asia or jews.