/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9529259
Niggers are dumb lol

>>9529270
>Niggers are dumb lol
Why the racism?

>>9529259
none of your arguments address IQ as a measurement or why it's wrong.
are you saying it's not real because some few people from a long time ago who never had their IQ measured were supposedly smart/successful?

>>9529259
nobody is giving american indians any nobel prizes anon

also this is definitely not place you should be with those opinions anon because it will only bring you suffering

>>9529270
Found the /Pol/tard

>>9529259

>>9529303
>Found the /Pol/tard

>>9529259
The argument you are making does not directly address IQ, and instead addresses the white superiority perspective that Africans we're sitting around eating dirt until they were colonized/exported as slaves.

Reframe your argument and expand generously, and you'll have something worth reading.

>>9529270
Are they really dumber then anon?
I don't think that is scientifically possible.

>>9529259
Kenyan children don't pass the self-awareness mirror test until they 6 years old. Of course such fact would never get publish without a plethora of if's and but's that try to attribute it to culture, which is laughable. You can easily find this study, "kenya mirror test".

>>9529338
>not published

>>9529362

Cultural [LOL] Variations in Children's Mirror Self-Recognition
Tanya Lynn Broesch, Tara Callaghan, Joseph Henrich, Christine Murphy and Philippe Rochat
Journal of Cross-Cultural Psychology
published online 9 September 2010

>>9529362

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0022022110381114

>>9529259
your a fucking brainlet that cherry picks ethnic groups in a racial identity to fit your argument, holy shit youre so dumb kill yourself

>>9529440
you're*

>>9529338
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>>9529383
Have you guys ever met black people in real life? Or do you know them only from boogie stories from /pol/? How fucking dense do you have to be to believe black kids can't recognize themselves in the mirror, just because they don't react to having a mark in their face?

>>9529475
I grew up in a majority black town, every gas station where black people lived had bars, and the schools we're built like prisons, including the barbed wire and razorwire fencing around the school.
Also not reacting to a mark on your head usually means you don't recognize abnormalities on your own person, which means a lack of self awareness for risk, which is usually associated with more instinct controlled behavior

>>9529270
>Niggers are dumb lol
/Pol/ in a nutshell

>>9529259
Education in general is absolute bullshit. Like, when the fuck am I ever going to need to know the square of the hypotenuse in my day-to-day life. Be honest...

>>9529440
>Black people somehow end up with less infrastructure after colonialism than before
>don't farm in areas where farming should be easy
>don't build roads
>don't build sanitation networks
>people will literally walk miles to fetch nasty stagnant bog water
>most of the people don't realize you can dig an artesian well if you dig down
>people from the west need to go in and build them for them
>they destroy the metal on said wells and use it for other things
>if you teach them how to farm they go back to previous methods
>"lol they're so smart right guys?"

Really the only proof you need of any of this Rhodesia and South Africa. You hand the Africans a fully functional world class economy and infrastructure and it promptly gets shit on and massive cash grabs happen.

>inb4 some bullshit about oppression and white privilege

>>9529536
Nah, few african people are enough to change other peoples' cultures forever. They have influenced the world's cultures so much, it's hard to see a city that isn't a third world country without a drop of african culture. That's why it seems nowadays african people are "better" or "benign" than the others. It's a cultural phenomenon.

>>9529259
You are so right, fuck the racists, I'm going to prep my gf's bull right now to correct historical injustices against the kings.

>>9529259
It has nothing to do with their lack of development in the past but right now, its a mystery why negroes behave like wild humans in our modern world and yet are the same level of cognition as us.

How dense does one have to be to actually believe that all groups of people are equally intelligent?

>>9529270
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>>9529383
>>9529384
>>9529440
>>9529505
>>9529536
>>9529616
>>9529617

KNOW YOUR ROLE!

>>>/pol/

>>9529334
then

>>9529629
Can't make an argument? Just make the other person part of a group you don't like and watch their points magically disappear!

>>9529629
I mean I’m not even pol but are people not alowed to respond to the post?

>>9529676
No. But Sci is not the place for this kind of debate. You want to post about how Racialism is confirmed science (which it isn't) then go to /Pol/

This thread again....

Maybe after you post it for the billionth time it might be true!.. not.

>>9529683
>talking about evolution and human physiology is now not science, because it hurts people fee fee's
>Sci
literally kys reddit scum

>>9529683
Biology is science, unless I am mistaken this board is called /sci/ - Science & Math, which means it is up for discussion. Sorry you don't want to debate it in case the facts are racist, I don't agree with /pol/ on, well, pretty much everything. But the fact is that physical, societal and cultural differences among races are a result of evolution of our species in different geographical locations. To put humans above animals in this regard just because we are self aware and walk on two legs is arrogant and also unscientific as fuck.

>>9529696
Racialism is not science. It's racism pretending to be science just like Creationism is religion pretending to be science

>>9529696
The problem is that you are too dumb to understand genetics and human evolution. You believe the accepted facts on the matter are some kind of conspiracy, and you've invented your own imaginary interpretation of reality.

>>9529702
See you keep calling it "racialism" which is a bullshit term. We are talking about Biology. Which is you know, science.

>>9529702
>Genetic diversions due to thousands of years of isolation, which can be measured not only through physical differentiations like height, skin tone, and muscle and skeletal structure , but mental traits as well, and are backed by by statistical analysis aren't real, they might as well be [insert logical fallacy here]

>>9529629
Ah Can it brainlet, just you wait until Hitler's UFO Army Returns to blow up you brainlet goofs along with the fuckin satanic kike bastards

>>9529721
Found the Poltard

>>9529716
>skin color = brain!

>just because one or two things changed, means everything I want to have changed must have changed!

>>9529725
This is now Ellie's thread

>>9529731
>One or two things
>Their entire bodily physique, culture and society
>Well uh, you can't just assume psychological differences
>Even though they are pretty fucking apparent if you ever have to interact with other cultures on a regular basis

Hoping the Poltards get banned

>>9529742
>Oh shit people are talking about science in ways I don't like
>MODS BAN THEM

>>9529731
>be early sapien in Africa
>easier to find food
>literally only one season
>no massive geological features making hunting difficult
>plentiful amount of animals and plants to hunt and forage
>lots of sun makes skin darker
>hot weather means simple structures/ clothing
>easy hunting means simpler tools
>more running prey also means their long muscles will adapt to be better at running over Europeans and Asians


>Be sapien in Europe/Asia, mix of season, need to preplan or die
>less food, need to preplan of how to hunt, make new tools to hunt
>less sun means less need for melanin in skin
>cold weather means you need better structures/clothing which needs more thought
>Life like this for thousands of years
>brain needs to get better at critical thought to compensate
>body adapts to the environment/ terrain, less need for muscle mass in Asia, more need in Europe

>>9529745
Biology is not a reason why African civilizations are less developed then European ones. This is just excuse for you to say "Well Black people are just natural stupid."

>>9529763
>humans are exempt from evolution

>>9529768
What is Darwin Awards?

>>9529259
Egypt ruling class was white.

Everything from south Sahara to South Africa were Shitholes and still Shitholes.

Don't be cynic denying that clear fact.

>>9529763
I never said that, you just put words in my mouth, I am simply saying that there are obvious differences between the races caused by evolution. So answer me a question rather than deflecting bullshit. Are humans affected by evolution, yes or no?

>>9529771
an internet meme award for people who try to play russian roulette with a semi-automatic pistol

>>9529763
>Biology is not a reason why African civilizations are less developed then European ones.
They mixed with different hominids. It's literally in every paper on human DNA history.

>>9529773
>I am simply saying that there are obvious differences between the races caused by evolution.
In some ways yes. But in intelligence no.

>Are humans affected by evolution, yes or no?

Yes. Of course we are, what else makes us different than Apes

>>9529259
Daily reminder that Wakanda doesn't exist

Wakanda isn't real

>>9529780
why is intelligence not effected by evolutionary differences in races? What physical trait allows every structure in the human body to evolve except the brain?

>>9529259
>>>/reddit/

>>9529790
I mean't to say that just because different ethnics formed because of evolution, doesn't give you the right to classify other races as different species. That's not how fucking evolution works.

>>9529780
So humans are affected by evolution, glad we agree on that. Now take a look at every other species on the planet and their subspecies, let us take dogs for example. Dog breeds have noticeably and obviously different behaviours and intelligence leveld. I will grant that dogs have a much faster breeding cycle and thus different traits and thus breeds develop quicker. However the history of man goes back a very, very long time. How is an African, separated from a European or Asian by distinct geographical locations and biological traits, any different to a dog?

"Because we are self aware" is not an answer, that does not exempt us from evolutionary pressures the same as other animals.

>>9529763
>Biology is not a reason why African civilizations are less developed.

It's the main reason.

>>9529802
Call it a subspecies then, because that IS how evolution works.

>>9529780
>But in intelligence no.

brainlet

>>9529802
that is exactly how evolution works, human isn't a single thing just an FYI, Human is a blanket term for all species classifies under the genus Homo, Homo Erectus, habilis, neanderthalensis, and etc are all human, just slightly different subgroups due to key differences in facial, and cranial structure
a neanderthal could most likely speak english, and could definitely interbreed with humans
I personally think the genetic parity between people in Africa and Europe is similar enough that we can't break us into different subgroups, but the process that causes new homo species to form was happening, and still is, people in Africa are still living in the conditions that allow people to diverge genetically, and unless we change the entire climate of all of Africa, or move every single person on earth to the same location, it will still happen

in 10/20 thousand years if we don't develop into a homogeneous species, black people, Europeans, and Asians will most likely be genetically different enough to be considered their own species

>>9529825
could most likely speak English if they existed today*

>>9529505
You won't read pic related. It contains actual knowledge.

Niggers are dumb.

>>9529741
>assume

>>9529831
That picture is bullshit because southern Africa is overflowing with natural resources and was inhabited from the late paleolithic onwards.

>>9529846
Yes, we can safely assume psychological and intelligence difference when literally every other animal on the planet has those factors influenced by evolution.

>>9529849
>natural resources
For hunter gatherers.
Not for civilization.

>>9529853
>kid has an apparent mutation
>therefore kid has also an intelligence mutation
wut

>>9529855
So despite the massive and easily accessible natural wealth of southern Africa, far exceeding that of China or Europe Africans couldn't develop civilisations because?

>>9529860
What the fuck are you even talking about?

>>9529861
>He didn't even read it
Surprise, surprise.

>>9529853
>we can safely assume
No you can't because you're not qualified to do scientific research. You're a bunch of moronic conspiracy theorists on an anime site. You do not have the knowledge necessary to make those calls. Your inevitable fallback that is repeated ad nauseam in these threads is that the people that do know better than you, geneticists who study humans and human evolution, is that they are lying and it's a coverup! They're being paid or threatened to lie! Is not that you're a complete retard that won't let go of your emotional beliefs! That can't be!

Only americans deny nigs are dumb.
>>9529872
Literal tearing apart in tears.

How dense does one have to be to actually believe that all groups of people are equally intelligent?

>>9529872
Right, so you have no counterpoint or evidence and are just appealing to authority, well done. Please provide some peer reviewed and unbiased articles on human evolution and it's correlation/causation in regards to psychological differences. I'll wait.

>>9529881
Very dense.

>>9529881
Explain how all americans are dumb, from the right to the left.

>>9529885
Because their education system is a joke and all they do is sit around and watch TV. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

>>9529887
And because they are mutts.

>>9529871
yes I read it and the only thing I can think of that you are talking about is in regards to free flow of information and trade. And like I just said Southern Africa has been inhabited for nearly 40000 years and there is no shortage of easy trails and rivers in southern Africa, much like Europe.

>>9529896
He just keeps missing it over and over, it's really impressive when you think about it.

>>9529935
A quick google would tell you that there is plenty of easily accessible Copper deposits in Africa and Salt is not required for civilization at all when there are plenty of other methods for preserving food. So why don't you say what you mean instead of being a smug prick and using pictures for your point, which by the way is what you always use (rightly) to criticize /pol/, and I don't even fucking go there but I happen to agree regarding human evolution.

natural resources = civilization

>>9529970
Civilization is thanks to, surprise!, extensive interconected permanent settlements of agrarian societies.

>>9529996
Explain the civilizations in the new world then.

>>9529996
Wow, it's almost like Africa has the perfect conditions for that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ClLUixSCLY&list=PL6s3WRRSW4kvfCj9TY8qSrK70VV1HLZ28&index=6

>>9530019
>that playlist
Good God is this what you do all day?

>>9530003
>>9530004
>just like new world
?

>>9529338
>put dark mark on dark skin
>expect the baby to react

>>9530019
Are those three (3) gold chains?

>>9530078
You just disproved yourself with your own graph? lel

>>9530094
>"africa has perfect conditions!"
>meanwhile southamerica and mesoamerica was full of lands with potential
wut

>>9530103
Because Africa does have perfect conditions if you ever cared to do any research, South Africa has some of the best, most fertile and resource rich land on the fucking planet. And the conditions were certainly better than many of the areas in the graph you just posted that had agricultural civilisations. What point are you even trying to prove? Because it is obvious you have been btfo in regards to human evolution and are now just trying to deflect.

>>9530103
>Central America is a shit hole, and very difficult to allow civilization to develop
>despite that, several civilizations did develop there, in the middle of the fucking jungles of Mexico, or literally in the mountains of Peru
>Africa, a large diverse continent was void of any major civilization outside of simple tribal kingdoms on the coast, despite being recourse rich and full of potential
hmm

This thread is fucking stupid.

>>9530116
>you have been
[citation needed]
>africa has the perfect conditions
[citation needed]
I showed you a map how cultures could use agriculture on most of the americas, meanwhile Africa only had some lands in the south and it still lacked >>9529996
>>9530150
>jungles
Nope. Agrarian life didn't start in the jungle.
>africa a large diverse lacking arable land except the south
dud

>>9529865
See>>9529860

>>9530190
So you've just ignored half the points made, most of which are known fucking facts, cited no sources yourself and then thrown up

>[citation needed]

wew lad

>>9530190
He's right. Africa's plains are some of the most fertile land on the planet. They have literal hundreds of thousands of miles of grass land. You don't think that's indicative of good soil? That part of Africa floods for like half the year, nutrients are replaced in the top soil. Learn2horitculture you Neanderthal.

>>9530211
>well known
[citation needed]
>cited
where
>>9530224
>fertile
[citation needed]

>>9530240
So you have no points left to make now, good to know.

>>9530242
>you have
>>>9529849
wut

>>9530250
wut

>>9530240
Here. Again. Lrn2hroticulture.

Please let this thread die. Take this debate to /Pol/

>>9530103
NW was in the bronze age due to no horses they would have at least been iron age by the time we discovered them if they had horses.

>>9530269
People discussing possibly racist science making you feel uncomfortable? Don't worry, I hear Reddit has an excellent moderation team.

>>9530269
You can request a mod to move it if you are that vehemently concerned. Or you could do what every other adult does and move on. Either way, your choice doesn't matter to me.

>>9530266
?
>>9530275
>"southamerica was the same as africa!"
>[your post]
wut

>>9530190
>The Aztec and Mayan empires weren't in the Lacandon Jungles, or mountains of mexico, where's that [citation]

>>9530291
>agrarian life started with asstecs and mayass
wut

>>9530287
Going by your own graph, South Africa alone has a similar amount of high quality soil to Europe, let alone the rest of the continent. Maybe try find some pictures that actually back your viewpoint instead of invalidating yourself?

>>9530287
Did you just Google Search that without actually knowing what you're talking about? Do you even know what soil resistence is? Do you see how all of the Sahara has a loose soil. That doesn't mean it's bad for growing. Fuck you for being stupid and pulling some stupid photo off of Google without even understanding it. Loose soil is good for growing. Notice how the Midwest is mostly loose soil? Jesus you children get dumber every single time I visit this site.

>>9530298
>"southafrica has the best resources"
>pic literally shows europe has it 20x
?
>>9530303
>show proof
>"not valid"
wut

>>9530287
SA is almost exactly like Africa climate wise retard.

>>9530281
>Or you could do what every other adult does and move on.

Fuck you. That's exactly what I did once I realized how fucking stupid this was. You want to be racist assholes, go the fuck ahead...

>>9530308
Your picture shows nothing of the sort, can you even read?

>>9530308
Never mind. You're right.
It's actually just because they're black. That's why they can't grow anything. Anyway, have a good night anon.

>>9530310
>shows proof of differences
?
>>9530315
>>9530322
>shows nothing
>America is literally a continuum of arable land meanwhile africa has two patches in the kush and south africa
hmm

>>9530287 >>9530298

Africa and Latin America have high Agriculture output. They are poor because they are Brainlets retards.


Top Agricultural Countries by GDP in World 2017 are

1st Place : China
2nd Place : India
3rd Place : United States
4th Place : Indonesia
5th Place : Brazil
6th Place : Nigeria
7th Place : Turkey
8th Place : Japan
9th Place : Argentina
10th Place : Thailand

Brazil, Indonesia & Thailand have the same tropical climate as Nigeria.

These countries already had good soil and climate for agriculture. But agriculture thrived only after White Men came & taught to them.

>>9530357
>implying you don't need a large military industrial complex to have economic prowess
it's all about killing people anon

>>9530324
Good to know you can't even interpret your own graph.

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>>9530103
>Africa don't have natural resourc--

Africa has plenty of natural resources.
They are poor because their low IQ.

>>9530287
>>9530308
>>9530324

>graph literally shows SA has great soil
jesus you're retarded

>>9530362
>Implying that Africans are capable of building any kind of industrial complex by themselves.

With plenty of naturals resources, Africans aren't capable of feeding & educating their kids, let alone competing with the Western World, Israel and East Asia.

Africans had a 100,000 years. While Amerindians had 10,000.

>>9529475
American blacks have high white admixture.

>>9530324
Soutn Africa alone is almost bigger than most of Europe.

>>9530370
>>9530375
See>>9529996
>>9530374
>petroleum is necessary for early agrarian societies
huh

>>9530380
>need money to build complex
>need complex to get money
it's a vicious cycle

>>9530410
Yeah man all those horse drawn plows using petrol... huh.

>>9530374
>They are poor because their low IQ.

I think even sjws agree on that.

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>>9529259

How bad is this cognitive dissonance? They would rather challenge the very concept of IQ -- a valid (and tested) psychometric tool that has been refined over the course of a century -- than accept average racial differences. This is because their entire worldview is dependent on the idea that everything is social and that we can 'fix' problems with money and education.

Let's really think about this for a minute. I once read that the probability of every race evolving the exact same mental traits is comparable to flipping a coin ten times and having it land ON ITS EDGE every time.

>>9529881
>How dense does one have to be to actually believe that all groups of people are equally intelligent?

Nobody is arguing that. The argument is that there are AVERAGE IQ differences between the races. I'm sorry your understanding of statistics is so rudimentary that this is a difficult concept for you.

>>9533010
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>>9529489
>>9529259 (OP)

How bad is this cognitive dissonance? They would rather challenge the very concept of IQ -- a valid (and tested) psychometric tool that has been refined over the course of a century -- than accept average racial differences. This is because their entire worldview is dependent on the idea that everything is social and that we can 'fix' problems with money and education.

Let's really think about this for a minute. I once read that the probability of every race evolving the exact same mental traits is comparable to flipping a coin ten times and having it land ON ITS EDGE every time.

>>9529881
>How dense does one have to be to actually believe that all groups of people are equally intelligent?

Extremely dense.

>>9529489
>>9529303
>/Pol/tard
>/Pol/
Same mispelling. Samefag.

>>9533075
Then what if it turns out Africans infact have a higher IQ when they develop? Here's the thing, regardless of what happens no one gives a shit and it won't effect policy at all..

>>9533075
>I once read that the probability of every race evolving the exact same mental traits is comparable to flipping a coin ten times and having it land ON ITS EDGE every time.

on an evolutionary timescale the human race has existed and spread across the Earth is extremely small.

sage
This is /his.
And Indians are objectively better than niggers in every way on average.

>>9533139
>Then what if it turns out Africans infact have a higher IQ when they develop?

Why would you ever suspect such a thing? All the evidence points to their low IQ being mostly a genetic issue, although abject poverty and poor living conditions don't help.

>no one gives a shit and it won't effect policy at all

I completely disagree. The current narrative is that blacks are performing poorly because of some sort of systematic oppression. In other words, it's the work of those evil white people. A Trump victory should be more than enough evidence that white America wants change. Why should blacks continue to be a burden on whites?

The United States would not have a deficit, if it were an all-white nation. Violent crime would drop to Belgian-tier levels, literacy rates would improve dramatically, and social cohesion would increase. I think policy is the most exciting aspect about this information getting out there.

>>9530086
also having a white guy (probably never seen before) do the testing and the baby will not act normal.

Mirror tests also are flawed because f animal behavior. Gorillas will run from the mirror but they will take the mark off their body.

>>9533154
Also rural kids not ever seeing a mirror.

>>9533153
So you wanna be a dick to non-whites?

>>9533158
Is a beautiful woman "being a dick" to me, if she doesn't let me live with her or enter a relationship with her? Same principle. I just want to live separately. Our quality of life would improve dramatically.

>>9533161
Then just go to the plenty of white majority areas in the States.

>>9533164
This is not enough. Freedom of association has been made illegal, meaning that there is nothing stopping non-whites from entering such a place. Moreover, the federal government has been known to import refugees to white communities.

>>9529501
>Like, when the fuck am I ever going to need to know the square of the hypotenuse in my day-to-day life. Be honest...
Basic trigonometry is extremely useful for construction workers and engineers.

>>9533167
>Freedom of association has been made illegal, meaning that there is nothing stopping non-whites from entering such a place.
Freedom of association literally entails a criminalization of such segregation, brainlet.

>>9533287
Freedom of association is also the freedom to choose NOT to associate with someone.

>>9533158
East Asians have on average higher IQ than whites.

>>9533287
Freedom of association means that you can choose not to associate with feral niggers for example.

>>9533471
>>9533153
Your basing this on IQ. What about dumb whites?

>>9533153
>iq
Not science.

>>9533139
>Then what if it turns out Africans infact have a higher IQ when they develop?
Some africans not the majority for the last fucking time, YOU CANT FUCKING MAKE BLACKS SMARTER no matter what you do they will always remain dumb feral savages because thats how they were for a length of time LONGER THAN OUR RACE'S ENTIRE EXISTENCE. Blacks have been just like this for 70,000 years there is NOTHING you can do to change them at all NOTHING.

>>9533141
Humans have existed for 300,000 years we shouldnt even be calling blacks, pgymies, Abos or San people the same species as us.

>>9529505
>all of Africa is mud villages

>>9534000
Majority of blacks live in bronze age hellholes in Africa the only reason you would even think its a modern time period is that whitey alien tech like cellphones but they have no electricity nor anything resembling human civilization beyond the bronze age. Even third world rural shitholes in South America look more advanced than african shitholes.

>>9529536
I really can never understand the logic of idiots who insist that Rhodesia/South Africa was good for blacks
>can't vote, have a good career, enter most buildings, regular beatings
>this is okay because whitey provided running water

>>9530150
>Africa, a large diverse continent was void of any major civilization outside of simple tribal kingdoms
Jesus man read a fucking book.

>>9534004
Yet somehow Nigeria has a higher GDP per capita than India.

>>9534004
So does Botswana, in fact it has a higher GDP per capita than Colombia and Ecuador. But continue to tell me how South Americans are "way more developed" than Africans.

>>9534020
Africa is loaded with resources so it will have good GDP but GDP have no link to living standards otherwise Brazil and China are utopias.
>>9534007
No one gives a shit what uncivilized savages who didnt contribute a single thing to Rhodesia thought. If the blacks had brain cells they would have fucked off back into the wilderness of Zimbabwe and dont beg the whites to give them the leisures of civilization.

>>9530086
>>9533154
>>9533157
>standard self-awareness test applied to animals for ages
>decide to apply for humans of different regions
>concludes that humans of different regions have different intelligence, as any reasonable person would expect
>it's fraudulent! it means nothing!

why do they fail before they're 6 and pass after 6?

hint: because their intelligence increases

>>9534028
Indios are smarter than blacks because they are close cousins of east asian. Blacks are the dumbest humans on this planet.

>>9534028
Ecuador and Colombia have millions of black people. If you want a predominantly Native country, try Peru, Bolivia, Chile.

>>9534035
Peru and Bolivia are still below Botswana.
>>9534030
But you just spent the entire thread arguing that Africans were too dumb to use the resources. Suddenly GDP per capita is "unimportant" when it discredits your "theory".

>>9534015
Sub-saharan Africa was void of any major civilization outside of simple tribal kingdoms.

>>9534000
>all of Africa is mud villages
most of Africa is mud villages
the urban city centers were built by White colonizers

>>9529536 >>9534030 >>9534007
Rhodesia and South Africa were more prosperous under White Rule. Then became shitholes after Blacks took the power.

>https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2003/12/how-to-kill-a-country/302845/

>>9534103
>Life was good in Zimbabwe...
...before Europeans came.

>hurr black people are dumb
>hurr white people are da best
>herp derp hurrr

>>9534117
Continued. What a fitting end.

>>9534123
Post how Rhodes fucked over lobengula

>>9534032
You fail to get it. They recognize themselves but don't react in a way that passes the test.

>>9533989
Nice sperg out.

>>9534028
>>9534020
>have higher GDP
>still live without power, sewage, road infrastructure, running water, or functioning government

>>9529259
ty dark person.
If Africans were so advanced, why did they no conquer Europe or something?
Even now, chineese struggle to get any work done there because Africans lack any sense of urgency.
They're just comfortable being shat on by mother nature, and things going to shit around them.
It's like they don't care about the future at all.
You know what would be the best thing to happen to Africa?
Fucking leave them alone, without any help.
They'd quickly go back to tribes instead of cities, and pretend governments.

>>9534186
Yes yes, trolling is fun and all. But please leave and kys

>>9534205
>Even now, chineese struggle to get any work done there because Africans lack any sense of urgency.


That's compete false though. Did you just finish watching The Empire of Dust?

>>9534279
Watched it, alright.
But I have first hand experience with Africans.
They just don't care for anything.
It's quite puzzling, desu.
It's like their brain skips on anything involving their own future at all.
Not mentioning their overall violent behavior, because it would be racist.

>>9534298
>But I have first hand experience with Africans.
Hmm, impressive credentials good sir

>>9534301
I'm french, so that's why.
Had to deal with 2 African coworkers so far.
They're globally shit, but think of themselves as the company's backbone.
Go figure.

>>9534279
Even Chinese dislike Africans

Empire of Dust

Scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtsa0MT2H4I

Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkEqI3_J4xg

Full Version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a-QpyF7rNc

>>9534301
Let's develop a little.
My sister's husband fucking comes from Gabon, which is in Africa, if you didn't know.
He's educated as fuck, and exiled from his country because his brother was a bad journalist there.
He pretty much agrees with me.
Something's not right with the African population.

>>9529501
>A /pol/tard coming to /sci/ to tell us that the Pythagorean theorem and other "advanced mafs" that he learned in his fourth year of HS are useless and da niggers r dumb.
As much faith as I have in your ability to practice quantitative anthropology properly, when will you mouthbreathers stop shilling your shit?

>>9534306
>>9534328
Ooh two stories. Interesting.

>>9534328
>Something's not right with the African population.
When countries are starving, brains don't develop properly.

When the only way to make money is to burn e-waste and recover rare earth metals, you can be permanently cognitively impaired and made more aggressive (and incidentally, violent crime peaked in the US around the time all the kids exposed to leaded paint and gas came of age).

When countries are constantly at war to fill power vacuums left by decolonization and in a solvency crisis because leadership embezzles the IMF funds, planning on long time horizons isn't terribly useful.

You do realize there are good explanations for why lots of Africans might behave this way that have nothing to do with "niggers is genetically dumb", right?

>>9534348
Let's see:
Literally threaten the boss because he asked him to do his fucking work, check.
Literally threaten me for calling him 40 times when there was an urgent matter to be called about, check.
Being threatened because I complained he was fucking up company hardware, check.
Being throwed in prison because he was driving on the pedestal sideways, check. Boss had to get him out of it.
Not showing up to work, without warning, because he didn't feel like it, fucking double checked.
Why the fuck would you hire shit people like this?

>>9534360
That would be valid for Nigerians and Ethiopians, but the rest are completely stupid.

I've read somewhere that andean populations suffer this too. Mining settlements are full of mercury and pollution, also the lack of diverse nutrition, low ammount of oxygen in the tall mountains and also suffer from lack of fertile lands and social rejection.

>>9529501
Nice bait Shlomo.

>>9533486
I'd rather deal with one source of contention at a time, please. IQ inequality is bad enough for social stability without adding the racial dimension.
Society with IQ differences = potential for resentment, but can be managed through smart policies
Society with IQ differences and different races = very high probability for resentment, much more difficult to manage, continual threat of balkanization and destabilization

"Muh ethnic food" is not a good enough reason to add additional societal destabilizing factors. We need the right to choose who to associate with, and who NOT to associate with.

>>9534373
Dayum. That's some sick confirmation bias.

>>9534393
Well, it's reality.
I happen to talk to various employers, and they all think niggers are shit employees.
Makes you wonder why the fuck they even bother coming out here.
The one thing they've got going for them, is that it would be hard to fire them, because, muh racism.
Also, on the bias thing, let me tell you, if it wasn't for coworkers being there, the ape would have fucking killed me for having him destroy company property.

>>9534390
>Society with IQ differences and different races = very high probability for resentment, much more difficult to manage, continual threat of balkanization and destabilization
Funny you should mention the Balkans. They were actually stable for about a century until there was a power vacuum when the Soviet Union collapsed.

People don't fixate on racial/phenotypical differences until people sort themselves geographically or economically and physical appearance becomes a proxy for socioeconomic status. Have you ever heard of a war between brown- and blue-eyed people?

>"Muh ethnic food" is not a good enough reason to add additional societal destabilizing factors. We need the right to choose who to associate with, and who NOT to associate with.
In practice, people can and do choose this without problems.

>>9534400
I see. That disproves all the data I see about African immigrants coming here to study and becoming very productive members of society. Thanks man.

>>9534410
Well, that sound sarcastic as fuck.
But you're right, they won't.
USA has been trying for half a century, and it just doesn't work.

>>9534410
>all the data I see about African immigrants coming here to study and becoming very productive members of society.

Stop using LSD

>>9534410
Current immigrant policy only lets in the best of best. Of course, the policy would ensure that African immigrants are higher quality than Black Americans.

>>9529259
>IQ Is Bullshit
>Why does Africa always get the most shit for being "historically underdeveloped

These two statements are not related. White America (or whats left of it) is historically underdeveloped yet they have a very high IQ. Africa on the other hand is most likely historically well developed but extremely low IQ , just the fact that over thousands of years africans could not even develop written form of language (or use egyptian or arabic) and record their history is a proof of that.

>>9534410
>all the data I see about African immigrants coming here becoming productive members of soc----

>>9534410
>>9534508

>>9534508
>>9534519
Now show immigrant vs American. Idiot

>>9529259

>>9529887
>joke

It's not a joke when you are a part of it!

Mah education!
Mah no funding for schools!
Mah poor curriculum!

Good thing I have my #mcFreedum

you cannot increase iq
you can easily lower iq

no amount of reading, studying, hard work, will give you even a single 0.1 boost in IQ. iq is by far the most important trait to have in literally every aspect of life. IQ is more desirable than physical attractiveness, and is correlated with physical attractiveness, albeit loosely. education will literally never change you as a person because your IQ is concrete and not malleable.
get the fuck over it and accept that you won't ever do anything of worth. all those books that you're reading, all that self-studying you're doing is completely useless you delusional ant

>>9530412
>Wealth is given by the gods
You do realize the "industrial complex" was something invented by certain civilizations right? It is something created from scratch

>>9533157
>Rural kids don't ever see their reflection on water

>>9534488
Oh. I mean, he (or you?) just said niggers to refer to all black people. But now some blacks are okay? I'm confused.

>>9534548

>you cannot increase iq

0/10

Iodine consumption has been proven to increase IQ through multiple research publications and has been documented through programs by a number of governments globally including the U.S., China and European countries.

It is also proven that basic literacy and learning multiple languages can increase density of white and gray matter which is tied to IQ.

>>9534629
get the fuck over it you absolute brainlet.
it's too late to catch up.

>>9533486

Great question. While there certainly are dumb whites, they are a smaller portion of the total population than some other races. As I said, the US would not have a deficit, if there were no non-whites in it. So a white population could certainly care for its intellectually challenged population with social safety net programs, specialized educations plans, ect.

But IQ is not the only reason I advocate for such policies. It has been shown many times that race is the largest deciding factor when it comes to political action, instead of, say, class, or political ideology alone. In fact, voting excplusively on political principles is -- statistically -- a white phenomenon; other races vote against their political ideals, if their race benefits from it, so I advocate we do the same. Thus, in multi-ethnic societies, politics always boils down to a tribal struggle. It is in the nature of homo sapiens.

>>9534632

I'm not op you retard. I came into this thread to specifically call you out for saying shit you don't have a fucking clue about.

The fact you can't even do a basic google search before you post shows that it is you who is the brainlet.

>>9534629
Your IQ ceiling is largely determined at birth, although there is some sway, especially with regards to your nutrition, education, and development. You will get iodine poisoning before you get anything close to a 5-point gain.

>>9534410
Kek, this doesn't happen ANYWHERE in the world. I live in a third world shithole in SA and they come here just for the gimmes and even go to protests and riots asking for them. They are just a drag to society even here.

On the other hand the Chinese trash comes here and in just a decade are know for working their asses off and displace the locals in some industries because they just work so much more than our population that it's not even funny anymore. They make us seem lazy as fuck.

>>9534693
Here's your tribes:
>High IQ
>Low IQ
Or do you still have problems with blacks?

>>9534731
Happens in the 1st world because we have competent immigration policy.

>>9534751
You didn't address anything I said. Yeah, I'd still prefer to live with whites.

>>9534758
You want a political platform based on pure racism, encourage open racism, and discriminate based on skin color alone, just so you can raise the national average IQ, because trying to do it based on IQ is toooooo haaaardddd :(
I got you.

>>9534768
Lol. You didn't address any of my points this time around either. It's pretty comical to see a stupid person pretending to be an intellectual.

That's okay, though. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and suppose that this is an emotionally taxing subject for you, so you really aren't your best right now.

>>9534724

>You will get iodine poisoning before you get anything close to a 5-point gain.

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iodine-Consumer/

Recommend iodine intake for kids/early teens is around 110mcg.

Recommend iodine intake for late teens/adults is 150mcg.

Recommend iodine intake for pregnancy is 220mcg.

To achieve excess iodine to a poisoning level you would have to consume 2-5 times the daily recommended amount with respect to age. In other words you have to be glutton of iodine rich foods on a consistent basis to get that bad. But like all food and nutrients excess amount leads to adverse health.

Obviously researchers and programs did not practice gross amounts in iodine when applying it to deficient populations.

>>9534782
Your polices would actually cause IQ to plum it in the population it targets. If you do stuff to shit on a population (lets use New Hampshire) over years it ill fuck up the educational achievements and scores within that area.

That is if we take the dysfunctional polices that whether deliberate or not effect/target poor whites and Blacks and channeled them into New Hampshire it would suffer over the years until it drops to those low levels.

>>9534583
In clear as fuck 1:1 reflection no not really.

>>9529501

You're right, education is wasted on the worthless.

>>9534815
>To achieve excess iodine to a poisoning level you would have to consume 2-5 times the daily recommended amount with respect to age
nah, the japanese eat 1-3mg iodine average daily
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3204293/
so that would be 6-20x the daily RDA being safe, toxic dose would have to be above that
it is extremely hard to overdose on iodine even if youre japanese

>>9534758
This is the Africa's best math student in 2016

https://www.brandsouthafrica.com/governance/education/top-maths-student-190416

https://twitter.com/TransAfrica872/status/722053145719881730/photo/1

>>9534318
You know those workers? they multilaterally pulled them form a group of random men. No interviews or checking of credentials or ANY FORMAL PROCESS. You think they'd fucking pull quality workers doing the fucking EQUIVALENT of hiring straight out of a Soup Kitchen lineup?

>>9529259 >>9534758
This is the Africa's best math student in 2016

https://www.brandsouthafrica.com/governance/education/top-maths-student-190416

https://twitter.com/TransAfrica872/status/722053145719881730/photo/1

>>9534600
I believe that immigration policies and policies in general should be based on merit. Both sides have some truths in their arguments.

>>9529831
So wait, you are indeed acknowledging the fact that Africa has not developed civilization. Why is it then foolish to assume from here on that africans havent therefore been able to develop intelligence either? They have been doomed to remain hunter-gatherer brainlets forever.

>>9534843
They all are. They are based off merit and humanistic criterias.

>>9534845
Only 12 small groups are haunter gatherers in Africa. Everyone else ditched that long long long ago.

Why do pol denies whites in WWI has less IQ than modern blacks by 10 points?

>>9534853
Yes, immigration policies are. However, affirmative action, welfare, and so on are subsidizing black idiotcracy.

>>9529536
>ignores that Zimbabwe had thriving farms run by blacks before the whites showed up

>>9534855
Whites in WW1
Invented Airplanes, Trains, Radio, Machine Guns, Rifles, Tanks, Vaccine, Penicillin, Skyscrapers, Electrical Power, Trucks, etc.

Blacks now:
Invented Rap, Hip Hop and Raggae.

Whites after WW2
Nuclear Bombs, Missiles, Rockets, Robots, Computers, Spacecrafts, Smartphones, Internet, Quantum Mechanics, etc.

Blacks at WW1
Mud huts, Dread locks, Spears

>>9534869 >>9529536 >>9534007 >>9534103

>>9534874
http://reason.com/blog/2012/12/13/american-iqs-in-1900-averaged-67-points

so you're saying IQ is a meme when modern day blacks have higher IQ than WWI europeans?

>>9534855
Source?

>>9534874
>Implying Mediterraneans are white

>>9534881
http://reason.com/blog/2012/12/13/american-iqs-in-1900-averaged-67-points

>>9534839
Still props for the black guy for actually being able to speak mandarin, though. Impressive.

>>9534887
Haven't read the book of flynt, but the article says that if you take the old test you would get more points than with the modern one. Doesn't this means that the old ones where 'easier' or didn't took some variables into consideration?

>>9534896
He's had a ton of experience with being multilingual. Only in the Anglo world is monolingualism really a thing, everywhere else people always spoke multiple languages or are willing to learn multiple languages.

>>9534839
Implying that there are suck qualified workers there in 1st place.

>>9534876
That's not the real name of the hotel. It actually went out of business because the Portuguese owners who built that had no sense of business acumen.

>Although Beira was a popular holiday destination, its tourists were primarily white middle-income families from Salisbury (now called Harare), the capital of Rhodesia (now called Zimbabwe), which was 550 km or 9 hours away by car. They could not afford the luxuries of the Grande Hotel, instead preferring beach holidays in the tourist district of Macuti, 8 km from the city centre. Although the Grande Hotel was only a 2 km walk from the city centre, swimming at the beach was forbidden.
>After only eight years, the Grande Hotel Beira was closed, deemed by the company to be unprofitable and too costly to keep open. The hotel had never made a profit in any year of its operation. The construction costs had come to three times the original budget. Anticipated wealthy guests never came, and the staff necessary to maintain and operate a luxury hotel was too large for the number of guests actually served. Every elevator, for example, had a personal operator.
>Beira was not known as a holiday destination for wealthy people, who already preferred the Bazaruto Archipelago at Vilanculos, the Mediterranean city life style of the Mozambican capital Lourenço Marques, the South African Krüger national park and the Victoria Falls in Rhodesia. And business travelers stayed at the Ambassador Hotel, a less expensive alternative situated in the Baixa (downtown) area, where most of the business offices were located.

Also Mozambique had a huge civil war.

>>9534839
Implying that there are such qualified workers there in 1st place.

>>9534918
>>9534914

Yeah They could have went to Kinshasa or some of the other cities. They put not effort in their hiring process. I know I'm replying to a shitposter but this is a post just to inform people really.

>>9534900
IQ had to be made harder every decade otherwise people average would now be like 140 or something.

>>9534920
>Kinkhasa (capital of DR Congo)
>Qualified Labor force

>>9534410
lol migrants are to the west as the higgs field is to mass
fuck you

>>9534920

>>9533139
Some subpopulations do, see British Kenyans.

Others don't, like British Somalis.

>>9534930
It really makes the nogging jogging

>>9534210
>Using the second best country in sub saharan africa to try and prove a point
>It's the only city in Botswana that's developed enough to have some high-rises
>the majority of the city lives in shacks without paved roads, with only a tiny portion around the capitol building having some semblance of quality

>>9534410
>Racists see black men - I see a Doctor, an Engineer, a Philosopher, a Rocket Scientist, a Physicist and a Lawyer.

https://twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/760159770473095168?lang=en

>most of europe, china, india, russia and america were at african levels in 1900
>somehow this proves that africa can't develop
???

>>9534961
>most of europe, china, india, russia and america were at african levels in 1900

Completely Wrong

>>9534961

>>9534972
>>9534979
>what is ghana in the 12 century
>what is gondar in the 16 century
>what is zimbawe in the 10 century
>what is mali in the 9 century

why pol only speak memes about africa but never even research the topic?

>>9534961
>Most of Europe didn't have electricity right after it was invented, and started becoming common place
>Europe, China, India, and America we're at africa levels in 1900
this is the dumbest post in history

>>9534982
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/02/america-in-1915/462360/

america in 1900 would be basically an african shithole today or worse.

america in the independance war had the same GDP per capita as modern day malawi.

>>9534839
Classic Chinese penny pinching

>>9529861
>massive and easily accessible natural wealth of southern Africa

Name one that wasn't used. This old meme.

>>9534982 (New York circa 1900)
this. Americas & Eurasia in 1900 were much better than Africa now.

>>9534961

This a photo took in Paris from the base of Eiffel Tower in 1889.
The tallest building in the world from 1889 to 1930.

When the Black men will even come close to achieve this.

>>9534994
You forgot to adjust for inflation.

1 $ then values 10,000$ now

>>9534994
>African shithole
>Despite actually having industry
>and people working to develop that industry into what became a much cleaner, much more successful society within only 20 years
You're comparing American society during an industrial revolution, where cars weren't around long enough to be commonplace, and electricity was starting to find its way into peoples homes , to african nations that haven't even developed industry to take advantage of their recourses, which the majority of people living in dirt huts without plumbing or electricity, and no projects or plans to give those amenities any time, literally every city, large building, or infrastructure project outside of North Africa was developed by third party interests, weather it was Europeans durring colonialism, or the Chinese now, everything built there with the exception of a few things we're build by foreign powers, once you cut the tit of Eurasia from Africa, they collapse, destroy everything, and fall back into tribalistic squalor

If you're gonna compare Africa through the lens of time, why not compare African nations from the year 1900 to America and Europe?

>America during the American Revolution had the same GDP as African nations today
that is completely unacceptable for African countries to be 300 years behind a nation in terms of GDP, especially considering we came out of that war broke, in severe debt, without a stable currency to hold our economy through.
Also you forgot to count in Inflation into that.

>>9534954
>shifting the goalposts
>shifting them more
>keep shifting

>>9535033
>nigeria don't have skycrappers

>>9535038
modern day nigeria has the same GDP as hitler's germany, taking into account inflation.

>>9535044
outside very few places in the world, most of the world was like africa in 1900.
rusia was a feudal shithole just before the comunist revolution.
China was literal thirld world poverty when mao died.

Africa right now has most of all the fastest growing economies right now while the west is lucky to have a 1% anual growth.

>>9535052
>nigeria don't have skycrappers
Built by white colonizers

>>9535049
>Post picture of city to claim Africa has electricity
>the city is still a shithole
>"n-nice [insert logical fallacy]"
Fallacy fallacy isn't an argument

>>9535059
>etiopia was colonized by whites
kek

>>9535060
Let me help you out buddy
claim:
>still live without power, sewage, road infrastructure, running water, or functioning government
proof against:
>pic of Gaborone, with obvious said infrastructure
movement of goalposts:
>b-but it's still a shithole!

>>9535073
I posted a picture of the dirt roads that surround the "richest city in Sub Saharan Africa"
Having power in the few highrises you have in your capitol city does nothing to prove the city isn't a shithole when the majority of it's people live in squalor

>>9535090
the average white american back in 1900 lived in misery.

>>9535107
nice job shifting that goalpost retard

>>9535090
>nothing to prove the city isn't a shithole when the majority of it's people live in squalor
That's wonderful my man. Good thing I wasn't trying to prove that. Plenty of places in Africa with modern infrastructure though.

>>9529259
>It's all bullshit
>Black people are geniuses

Go outside

>>9535109
back in the 19 century extreme poverty was like 98% of global population, and we're talking modern day levels of african poverty.

compared to even the 19 century, africa is better than even europe back then.

>>9535126
He never said that, try harder.

>>9535107
So did the average South Korean in 1953

>>9535193
So countries with decades of dictatorships, rampant corruption, warlords, civil wars, colonial taxes even today, billions lost in unfair trade deals and western corporations tax evasion, no loans from the IMF, no plan marshall to rebuilt them unlike europe and japan.

So, having all that until 2010 will means they haven't developed is because they're niggers, right?

>>9535204
>So countries with decades of dictatorships, rampant corruption
So South Korea. It also had decades of exploitative colonization under the Japanese. So clearly, you don't know your history.

>>9535209
yeah, and It took them 40 years of stable goverment, foreign investment, democracy and positive conditions and no civil wars to develop.

Africans had only had such conditions in the last 10-15 years.
There was still civil wars and genocides back in fucking 1994.
Some of them are still dictatorships.
Some of them have weak institutions.
Some of them just had their first democratic elections in 2011.

but I guess is easier to claim they're dumb niggers than to look at the data.

>>9535218
Nobody seriously argues that environment doesn't influence IQ. Unless you are trying to argue that environmental differences entirely explain large scale population IQ differences.

So, what is your actual position?

>>9534028
Yes, because GDP is all that matters, never mind dying 22 years sooner, or being 46 times more likely to get AIDS, they (their elites rather with that 63 GINI) have more money than a rather mediocre Latin American country. Win!

>>9535226
genetics don't determine diferences in country outcomes.

Colombia/Venezuela (IQ = 89)
East Germany / West Germany (IQ = 100)
N. Korea / South Korea (IQ = 107)
Dominican Republic / Haiti (IQ = 70)
Zimbawe / Botswana (IQ = 70)
Honduras / Costa Rica (IQ = 85)

There's plenty of more cases of two neightbor countries with same racial profiles but clearly oposite ends of development (one being a failed state, the other much more developed).

>>9535230
now compare which countries and which cities are at the top of the most dangerous now.

Africa is much safer than latinoamerica.

>>9535237
So, you're saying that genetics have nothing to do country outcomes whatsoever? Any disparities are purely institutional and environmental?

>>9535244
Apparently you can't read.
I'll quote it for you:
"24.19% more likely to be murdered in Botswana than in Ecuador"
There goes your little argument.

>>9535245
otherwise you wanna argue that genetics play a role in haiti versus dominican republic or zimbawe versus botswana for black countries.
or honduras versus costa rica.
or colombia versus venezuela for spic examples.

>>9535248
because ecuador is not very dangerous, now compare it to brazil, honduras, venezuela, colombia or mexico.

look up ghana, burkina faso and madagascar homicide rate less than eastern europeans.

>>9535244
>>9534028
Botswana is not a good example to flaunt around, that place is a dangerous HIV riddled shithole, with massive income inequality (that's why the GDP per capita is so high, a small minority of people own enough wealth to raise the average)

>>9535257
look up then seychelles for a better example.

>>9535254
>otherwise you wanna argue that genetics play a role in haiti versus dominican republic or zimbawe versus botswana for black countries.

I'm not even arguing that all Africans are the same. The mass success of the children of some African ethnicities in British schools and the mass failure of other African ethnicities in British schools should make that obvious.

You're also making a completely irrelevant argument. In countries who are similar genetically and environmentally, of course institutions are responsible for comparative success. You should be smart enough to realize that you are attacking not even a strawman, but an argument that nobody is making.

>>9535259
pol loves to think a continent that has 53 nations, 800 languages, like a thousand diferent tribes is nothing more than something small and irrelevant.

>>9535258
>Saychelles
>the European resort retreat, where all the normal people live in horrible poverty
>they have no significant historical development outside of white people coming in to build luxurious beach side housing
>No major recourses outside of tourism

being a servant to rich tourists is not a good example of the prowess of African development

>>9535261
So do you ascribe to heritable intelligence any contribution to national success?

>>9535254
Ecuador is in Latin America so your little argument that Latin America is dangerous holds no water. You may say selected countries in Latin America are dangerous, but you cannot generalize.

>>9534758
>don't provide heat, lights, or books
>must be race that makes them fail!
https://www.npr.org/2018/01/03/575337312/outrage-as-some-baltimore-students-attend-school-in-frigid-classrooms

>>9529259
>Lol silly boys and their science intelligence I have my emotion intelligence

>>9535270

Ignore them the obvious answer is Logos, Nigeria or Nigeria in general.

>>9529259
That verry narrow criteria of intelligence is the only one that matters though

>>9529259
You don't understand native american culture at all.
War was a game to them.
I'm not going to describe the intricacies of their culture.
Both Native Americans and Africans as well as many other ethnic groups are less influential (successful) in terms of infrastructure, sociological condition, agriculture, technology, etc. when they represent their own culture. When placed into another culture they may adapt and become as successful as any individual in that culture.
It is a mystery to me as to why certain cultures fail while others thrive.
Racism is stupidity but beratement based on cultural association may be necessary to keep aspects of less successful cultures separate from successful cultures.

>>9529259
These 'empires' are a figment of the Afrocentric imagination.

You can't have an empire without a written language.

>>9534210

>>9535681
>what are the muslim libraries among the african kingdoms

>but it was made by muslims
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nsibidi

>>9535549
>you need IQ higher than 120 to be a math student
>less than like 5% of blacks have IQ higher than 125
>It must be because blacks are stoopid
wow, is like asking how many manlets can be NBA players.

>>9535584
then pol will claim nigeria or lagos are shitholes and move their goalpost again to mean basically whatever standart they mean.

>>9535837
I don't understand why you are so accepting of genetics in athletics (fuck, the Chinese have a lowkey eugenics program to produce Olympians) but not intelligence.

>>9529831
Wow, this really made me change my views, open my borders and remove the police. Since we are all equal we should let non-whites in and replace us.

>>9536108
They don't just let the purebred Olympians run free and succeed with their genetics alone. They basically make their lives slavery to training.

Sooooo a combination of genetics and environment. That's all we're fucking saying man. Environment can make or break an athlete. Same with a student. You also don't need a high IQ population to run a country. As we have said, European countries of the past had low IQs. They develop, modernize, and raise their IQ. Most African countries have only gained independence in the last 30 years, and experienced severe exploitation for centuries before that (and some time after).

>>9529505
>>>9529440
>>Black people somehow end up with less infrastructure after colonialism than before
Why do you retards think this is an argument, the exact same thing happened in Europe after the fall of the Roman empire.

>>9535681
Yes you can

>>9536272
The best meme is that most of africa is wealthier today

>>9536272
>White people build a big working rail line in your country
>"Reee fuck you whitey get out"
>White people leave, and leave all that decent rail network
>Instead of using it, dismantle it for scrap metal and use the ties as firewood
>Complain and say white people destroyed your country

>>9536208
>As we have said, European countries of the past had low IQs.
"You" are in the wrong.
>They develop, modernize, and raise their IQ.
> and raise their IQ.
Not by a significant amount.
>Most African countries have only gained independence in the last 30 years, and experienced severe exploitation for centuries before that (and some time after).
If by "exploitation" you refer to white men bringing them modern technology and systems of governance, you are indeed correct.

>>9529831
Jesus Christ, yeah it's not like European powers fought over nearly every inch of Africa for its resources. It's not like the Chinese are currently taking over Africa for its resources. Go watch a documentary called "Empire of Dust".

>>9533139
All groups do, but it still doesn't get rid of the massive IQ gap between them and other races.

>>9529812
>call it something that it factually isn't
Typical brainlet /pol/tard who doesn't know what he is talking about.

>>9529259
>Some black tribes were smart
>(All black tribes are smart)
>On average blacks have a low IQ
>(Smart black tribes have low IQs)
>Guiz I disproved IQ!

The Aztecs and Mayans were pretty developed American Indians, the Aztec capitol was comparable to any major European city.


as for IQ being shit, of course it's shit. in fact believing in IQ scores as a measure of intelligence is a sure sign you are stupid.

>>9536400
You can have thousands of resources retard, doesn't matter if you can't farm.

>>9536272
And how long did it take them to rebuild everything? Are you legit this retarded? Do things just happen over night instantly?

>>9529483
What fucking mark are you faggots talking about?