/sci/ - Science & Math

yes

no

>>9501617
well your mom weighs a lot and she's not very bright

>>9501624
>>9501641

These.

Schrodinger's proton

>>9501617
>Physics
>Ever giving real answers not based on new "hypothetical" particles that "hypothetically" exist to fill holes in issues that don't have answers
>Proceeds to say this is the truth, and nothing will ever change this, these particles are real no matter how much we can't prove it
>J-just ignore the massive new discovery that BTFO'd all of physics again, for the (n)th time this century

>>9501617
1. Yes photons do have mass.
2. Because they are real.

Photons spin. Not just about their own axis, but they will stack spins along the x, y, z axis as well dependent upon their energy level.

Stack spins? read on......
A stacked spin is simple, picture a particle rotating around its axis, spin 1, we will call it a, then lets put this particle in euclidean space x,y,z with the south pole at 0,0,0 now lets spin it around 0,0,0 on the x axis, spin 2, we will call it x-spin. rinse and repeat. You will not the radius grows in a steady 1 particle step per spin, now link it to planks constant. Keep up /sci/

>>9501683
something can be real and not have mass, and still have a spin retard

>>9501703
ahhh, but can a ''virtual photon'' be real?

can a ''point particle'' really spin?

retard.

>>9501707
Photos don't interact with the higgs field, photons are real, and have zero mass

>>9501703
Yeah, photons and gluons are both massless particles, get this flat earther out of here.

>>9501715
nothing physically interacts with theoretical fields.

Photons are the field, the charge field, D, Maxwells displacement field.

>>9501707
Particles aren't actually spinning. Retard.

>>9501735
>Thanks for the clarification. Please go on now about the color and flavor of quarks.

Particles are actually spinning. Retard.

>>9501617
If photons do have mass, does that mean that light is really dark matter? 95% of all mass they say is dark matter, what if that's just all the photons on their cycle through the stars?

>>9501743
Wrong

for anything to move at the speed of light, it must massless so a photon has no mass

>>9501765
MUST BE** fuck you

so are particles actually spinning or what?

Particle is unit of measurement, being something like sand form which is created by certain frequency oscillation in system of membranes that have some energy at frequency thus oscillate.

Question is what is mass.

Because if photon's doesn't have some resistance to "being created"? Lulz, you are funny guys.

How photon starts to exist?
So when I start lightbulb some electron begins to shrink with antielectron so it glows and stuff like that.

Amazing.

Put light into circle, and just insert more light in, in empty space, can be fun, if we cool crystal enought and let it out later...

As we can see on this picture, everything in universe comes in perfect sinuses. Weight is irrelevant, tell us what unit are you asking please, when referring to matter. Stuff can have some "agitation" towards earth due to electromagnetism. So outside of earth magnetic field we don't perceive same ratio of mass to weight on scale.

>>9501617
of course they do. when a photon hits a planet or a strip of silicon, it delivers energy because it has both mass and velocity.

This theory will become accepted within the next 100 years: all Energy is based off of mass and velocity (or height in the case of potential energy). might be able to make a finer statement in 100 years but same concept

>>9502134
aww it's a retard

Photons have mass because light is attracted by gravity

>>9502146
>
Photons have ENERGY because light is attracted by gravity

>>9502165
>light is attracted by gravity

Photons effectively have zero mass. Basically they have a fluctuating mass switching between positive and negative faster than the rate of causality. A photon with for example "1" mass strikes an object, but before this strike can be registered the photon has fluctuated back to negative 1 mass and thus the strike evens out to zero.

So there is dark energy in it, that can be explained only if light... get... faster for a while around the ball, because it accelerates for distant observer because time goes faster there so it "bends" because of some form of breaking angle like in atmosphere, but with no shifting because speed haven't changed...

Because speed of light is distance which information reach one point to another point in space, per time of observer, always.

So if observer's time goes faster the speed of light is faster.

So cosmic ray's still are not fucking big bang!

Also there could be possibility, that to travel that what is black dot in middle, it would bend itself to go somewhere out from the gravitational optics.

There is no object sucking up light, it just bends and go in a way we don't observe it, and it goes diffracted, changing observer time frame, being scattered in the process.

"heaviness" makes synchronous clock ticking? are you sure about the way? Because there's been some "G's" involved in experiments I heard of.
"mass" makes matter stick together.
It's not bigger heat, but bigger time, because mass and gravity is what makes matter stick together, so some form of harmony element. We still talking about waves.

Because for sure, everything is in lattice having phonons, which relations can be described by wave. i.e. scalar number over cycle can describe what it is, but what makes really it is a distribution.

So there is different delta t that takes wave to propagate same space e.g. heat and stuff like that, and thus it's something "weird" we need to measure....

I could assume if we stick more particles together, their 'time' is different, just because for same thing to happen you need to travel greater distance by same speed. Which means everything is photons. And speed of it's vibration is just how much space it's looped troughs, or there is same kind of wave, passing trough multiple points. but in the end, we have something like, pure wave in stable speed...

>>9502175
Difficult point in this may be to understand what frequency is and even 10x18^-6 in repeats is repeat, and even something that does not repeats at all can be still wave that have frequencies that interchange at some difficult patterns, but there is still something that "oscillates".

In there is just photon photon scattering, and photons that comes in such different "shapes" it simple doesn't end up in your ballistic gel, but flies around it, and end up somewhere on the camera is being the ballistic gell. You get that?

>>9501617
Photon haven't photons can.

If universe consist of one magnet, would it be magnetic(magnet)?

>>9502168
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/total-solar-eclipse-helped-prove-einstein-theory-of-relativity/

Just time is slower when you do same action in more dense stuff?

>>9501617
The upper bound on its mass is too small to be physically meaningful, so it's effectively zero.

It still only means there is just action and propagation distance at constant speed troughs differently dense space and formations out of action potentials and that there is always surface of any dimensional object that can get bigger by getting recursion.

"Double slit experiment just proves that photons are entangled and reflecting or absorbing bunch of it creates ripple in it wholeness where rest trying to chase it "bound parts" because chemistry kind of shit appears on that level too, because it's just a recursion of same possible principles(for noobs that can't explain whole)(like me)(there is itteration number in recursive loops).

>>9501617
yes, but no rest mass

Acceleration creates something similar to gravity, photons absorbed by slitter layer of double slit experiment are having change of "scalar" in same direction of one or two c... Thus creating space density in constant time different and creating miniature lens that creates a "interference" "disspersion pattern" simply by the fact there is underpresure of photon flux, by the fact some has been absorbed...

Faster something flows, that it's stopped, thus virtual viscosity of beam is fucked up... There is a empty place with underpressure created by strong shockwave of photon kickback that is getting far beyond the slit and disturbing flow of currents.

>>9502209
They are not exactly subject to gravity, so they do not have mass.

>>9502215
>>9502184

>>9501671
>These made up particles keep getting discovered and observed.

>>9502215
>rest mass

>>9501707
>ahhh, but can a ''virtual photon'' be real?
Virtual particles are artefacts of perturbation theory
>can a ''point particle'' really spin?
Yes, but string theory describes particle spin as the string spinning as you'd imagine.

Brainlets. You can understand the photon energy as mass in a physically meaningful way, obviously through E^2-(pc)^2=(mc^2)^2

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>>9502320
>You can understand the photon energy as mass in a physically meaningful way

>>9502267
How that proves it's affected by gravity because mass?

It's creating that effect because propagation speed changes.

>>9501794
No. They're not.
https://youtu.be/v1_-LsQLwkA

>>9502343
>It's creating that effect because propagation speed changes.
Please, give more details - with pictures

Could use a good laugh.

>>9502325
https://youtu.be/JqNg819PiZY?t=40m

>>9501617
photons have relativistic mass, and no , we cant measure that.

>>9501641
>e=mc^2
>photons have energy but not mass

>>9502468
E=pc

>>9502468
The full equation is actually E^2-(pc)^2=(mc^2)^2
>>9502488
You are assuming beforehand that m=0, and then applying E^2-(pc)^2=(mc^2)^2

>>9501617
Explain mass. Now, what is mass to the universe?

>>9501707
Any particle can be real if you have bean-counting psychosis.

>>9501718
Close, but fields arent't particles. It's a perturbation.

>>9501735
>>9501743
>>9501756
Particles actually don't exist, retards.

>>9501794
Nothing but spin exists.

>>9501809
Holy fucking shit someone with an actual clue. Get this man some tendies.

>>9502872
so
E=pc in this case? haha stop making brain gymnastics for having better formulas (still terrible and never used so probably fake) brainlets einstein was wrong.

>>9502932
>einstein was wrong
aww it's retarded

>>9502896
>Particles actually don't exist, retards.
youtube education
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/qm/ModelsOfPhysics-Mermin.pdf

>>9502938
>insults mys statement and post's article backing it up in the same post.

But why.

>>9502935
i was just baiting but unirocally i dont believe the double slit retarded magician explanations i read on popsci and muh relativity DIMENSIONS.
Did any experiments prove this or is it plain bullshit? Also i study engeneering so i am put of superstitions so prabably they wont teach me this

>>9502983
no explanation is correct every theory is just math

>>9502993
>theory is just math
how about you go back to the swamp to play banjo

>>9503013
how is that philosophy degree going?

>>9503019
Stop asking stupid questions and just give the big mac and fries.

>>9501617
Photons do have mass, but they are so very very light that they are lighter than air so they have the most buoyancy, photons rise, aka heat rises.

>>9501617

>is energy mass

>>9501671

>hypothetical particles
>photon

>>9503938
>Photons do have mass, but they are so very very light that they are lighter than air so they have the most buoyancy, photons rise, aka heat rises.

Is this true?

https://news.uchicago.edu/article/2017/02/14/new-method-uses-heat-flow-levitate-variety-objects
>New method uses heat flow to levitate variety of objects
>The levitation lasted for more than an hour, as opposed to a few minutes; stability was achieved radially and vertically, as opposed to just vertically; and it used a temperature gradient rather than light or a magnetic field.
>“Magnetic levitation only works on magnetic particles, and optical levitation only works on objects that can be polarized by light, but with our first-of-its-kind method, we demonstrate a method to levitate generic objects,” said Chin.
>In the experiment, the bottom copper plate was kept at room temperature while a stainless steel cylinder filled with liquid nitrogen kept at negative 300 degrees Fahrenheit served as the top plate. The upward flow of heat from the warm to the cold plate kept the particles suspended indefinitely.

>>9501671
this but unironically

>>9502993
>no explanation is correct every theory is just math
t retard
i love how quantum phisisists are so incompetent they have to say nothing works to feel better whitle the rest of phisists say the opposite.
Fuck off with your autistci and contradictory relativism. Kant fucks all of you

>>9503938
>photons are aether
this is the state of jew phisycs, we go back 2300 years

>>9504057
Hey fzaggot:
E=MC^2

:^)

>>9502146
/thread

>>9505456
Better to go back and then move forward with physical truths than to continue down the current path of lies (((they))) call physics.

>>9502398
Prism effect?