/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9488305
GIVE ME ALL YOUR MUSK MEMES

>>9488305
The last thread is still on page 2 and we're on a slow board. There's no need for the rush, shill.

nigga I was putting together a better OP and you had post this? blahhhhhhe

might as well put the new info here I guess:

~~~~~~~ IMPORTANT INFO ~~~~~~~
WHEN: February 6, 13:30-16:30 EST; 18:30-21:30 UTC
STREAM: http://www.spacex.com/webcast

~~~~ ETC INFO ~~~~
LAUNCH VEHICLE: SpaceX's Falcon Heavy
WHERE: LC-39A, Florida, USA
PAYLOAD: Elon's Red Tesla Roadster (https://www.instagram.com/p/BezcvpzAgYI/); payload mass is ~1305 kg
DESTINATION: An Earth-Mars heliocentric orbit (380 to 450 million km)
LANDINGS?: YES, side cores (used, from CRS-9 and Thiacom-8) at LZ-1 and the center (new) core on OCISLY (~342km downrange)
HAZARD AREA MAP: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1bZcVS6Whth8XtrTt0kpYL6IQF66D8nCk&ll=27.922273514885035%2C-74.53136350557088&z=6
FAA LICENSE: https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ast/licenses_permits/media/LLS%2018-107%20Falcon%20Heavy%20Demo%20License%20and%20Orders%20FINAL%202018_02_02.pdf
DEFINITIVE guide to viewing cape launches: http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html

This is the FIRST launch of Falcon Heavy
3rd launch of 2018 for SpaceX
13th launch out of KSC LC-39A for SpaceX
7th and 8th reuse for SpaceX

FH Stats:
* 22,819kN of thrust at takeoff
(Saturn V: 35,100 kN)
* 63,800 kg to LEO in expendable configuration
(Saturn V: 140,000 kg)
* Wet mass of 1,420,788 kg
(Saturn V: 2,970,000 kg)

>>9488317
Thank you based Elon

>>9488323
Too slow to the party m8

Good space journalists to follow:
https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/with_replies
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/with_replies
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/with_replies

SpaceX related sites:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/spacex
https://www.instagram.com/spacex/?hl=en

~~~~~~ News from Elon’s press conference ~~~~~~~~
- doing a six-hour coast before final second-stage burn; going through Van Allen Belts. Also fuel could freeze or oxygen lost.
- Tesla will be placed into a heliocentric orbit and become a Earth-Mars cycler; only extremely tiny chance of hitting Mars in foreseeable future.
- one area of concern is relative interactions of the three booster cores; could be resonance or shockwave impingement. Once second stage separates, we’re in much more known territory other than long-duration coast.
- looks like development of BFR is moving quickly, and won’t be necessary to qualify Falcon Heavy for crewed spaceflight.
- if we’re successful, offer near super-heavy-lift for little more than Falcon 9. “Game over” for all other heavy-lift rockets.
- if successful with this test launch, we’ll be ready to put a satellite on the next Falcon Heavy launch.
- if successful should be able to d another FH in three to six months. Can produce them at a pretty rapid rate.
- if we wanted to, we could add to more side boosters, make it Falcon Super Heavy.
- we kind of tabled Crew Dragon on Falcon Heavy (including the cislunar mission announced last Feb.) and focus our energies on BFR.
- it would be a “real huge downer” if Falcon Heavy blows up, but hope to learn a lot. It’s a win if it just clears the pad.
- main reason for the six-hour coast is to demonstrate direct GEO insertion (for national security customers).
- will be three cameras mounted on the Roadster, should provide “epic views” if all goes well.
- it should be an exciting day tomorrow. We’ll have a good time whatever happens.

>>9488317

>>9488330
>- if we wanted to, we could add to more side boosters, make it Falcon Super Heavy.
Korolev's cross Mk.II?

>so what's happening to the two rich people going to the moon on Grey Dragon?
they're probably getting Formosat'd to a BFR

>why is FH important?
It's the most powerful rocket in the world (currently)

>why not put a useful satellite onboard instead of a car?
look up what a "mass simulator" is, lad

>Won't FH be redundant in a few years with BFR flying?
yeah

>how big a kaboom will it be if FH explodes on the pad?
2933 tons of TNT

>>9488355
>they're probably getting Formosat'd to a BFR
dont tempt me with a good time, anon

>>9488317
El Chapo

Musko Memeo

>>9488355
>2933 tons of TNT

That's about a 2.933 Kiloton explosion

> today's strongest rocket is almost completely reusable
I bet Thundercuck is on denial right now, wishing for it's explosion tomorrow so he can clickbait soybois with his cuck videos

>>9488437
tbf it's not the strongest in reusable config

>>9488447
damn, how strong is it then (on reusable config)?

>>9488457
8k kg to GTO? F9 can only do 5.500 kg GTO reusable.

>those people at the bottom
that's one big rocket

how long until it "reaches" mars?

>>9488486
it won't reach "mars", but it will get as far out as mars's orbit.

I dunno, a few months?

>>9488472
8 tonnes isn't the limit of what it can launch to GTO with recovery of all three stages, it's just the maximum size of the established GTO launch market. They're priced to compete with the market. They want to negotiate prices on a case-by-case basis for services people can't easily find elsewhere.

>>9488481
When looking at pictures of it, remember one Merlin engine is roughly the size of one persone.

>>9488363

¡Musk es un charlatán!

¡No nos va a llevar a Marte!

>>9488330
>looks like development of BFR is moving quickly
There is only so much blood that fits into my penis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk338VXcb24

>>9488330
>looks like development of BFR is moving quickly
What?

>>9488437
>false information
>Xcuck
>soybois
>cuck

>>9488551
I mean it's mainly the structure that has to be designed. They know how to do instrumentation, sensor suites, computers, comms, power, and the engine is pretty fleshed out. Just gotta throw all of their existing tech into a phatt BFR shell and stick some raptors on the bottom.

Super simplifying it all, but the fact is that it's not exactly unknown territory.

>>9488355
>they're probably getting Formosat'd to a BFR
Why would they want to wait an additional 10 years just to fly on BFR?
>but it will be ready soon
Dragon 2 took 6 years to build and it's tiny.

>>9488572
10 years is a bit too pessimistic I think

can't extrapolate from previous projects anyways. Number of employees has changed, overall institutional experience has changed, facilities/resources has changed, and not to mention the lack of NASA oversight will change a lot too

>>9488583
>can't extrapolate from previous projects anyways

>>9488572
>Why would they want to wait an additional 10 years just to fly on BFR?

formosat was supposed to go up on a falcon 1 wasnt it? with all the delays didn't spacex end up paying them?

>>9488595
the fees maxed out at 60% or so. SpX didn't pay them, but it did cost them money

>>9488590
you can't tho

>>9488327
>SpaceX
>Space X
>Space Sex

Get u covered!

Kinda unrelated, but what's /sci/ opinions on UFOs?
Like the Navy pilot one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RlbqOl_4NA

PRESS KIT http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/falconheavypresskit_v1.pdf

SIMUL SIDE CORE LANDING CONFIRMED

>>9488638
YEET

>>9488583
>10 years is a bit too pessimistic I think
You're right. It's too optimistic because it's never being made lmao.

>>9488567
You're not exactly helping my raging erection.

Is this the most memed rocket launch of all time?

>>9488670
Probably, until Webb flies

>>9488670
>>9488678
>Until Webb flies
>NASA's James Webb Space Telescope now is planning to launch between March and June 2019 from French Guiana

Can't fuckin' wait!

>>9488572
>Dragon 2 took 6 years to build
Dragon 2 is being built on contract to NASA. The delays are from dealing with NASA bureaucracy. It's NASA. They've managed to drag out Orion development for fourteen years, and it'll likely be an even twenty before it actually carries astronauts into space, if it doesn't get cancelled first.

Anyway, BFR has been under development for years already, and if anything, it's easier to design a large crew vehicle than a small one. No need to miniaturize the life support equipment.

Is BFR going to happen? No meme answers please.

>>9488767
yes. they've already bought tooling, they've already constructed test articles for components, and they've already committed to phasing out F9/FH/Dragon when BFR is flying.


oh, here's the orbit of the roadster for those who were wondering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7BmM1nn3q8

>>9488355
Dragon 2 won't fly with people until FH has made 5 flights with cargo dragons.

>>9488811
you got that a bit mixed up.

Dragon 2 won't fly people until block 5 F9 has flown five times in a stable configuration.

they're not going to crew certify FH

>FH isn't a meme
>BFR isn't a meme
>SpaceX starts selling one way tickets to Mars

Hypothetical of course, but would you sell all your earthly posessions and assets for a one-way ticket to the new frontier?

>>9488823
No, because they could charge $10 million a ticket and there'd still be a waiting list longer than 3 human lifespans.

You will never live on Mars.

Die.

>>9488823
that's exactly the plan that Elon has. He has stated on multiple occasions that an average middle class person in the US will be able to afford a one-way ticket if they liquidate all of their possessions on earth.

>>9488824
lol chill senpai

>>9488831
so what, 500k-1m for a ticket? Seems pretty cheap.

>>9488814
F9 can't go to the moon.

>>9488870
huh? Dragon 2 ≠ FH

>>9488866
yep. iirc he quoted $200k somewhere one time

>>9488877
200k seems absurdly cheap.

>>9488882
and you won't be paying that to go to mars for a very long time.

it'll be dutch auction style for at least 40 years.

>>9488891
Please, you think mega rich motherfuckers are going to sign over tens of millions to live somewhere they can't go outside? Sure there will be a bunch of them but I really don't think all that many.

Give me a quick rundown on Elon Musk and Falcon heavy.

Are they just soyboy dreams or do they actually contribute to the advancement of humanity?

>>9488906
Mostly memes, but if he can corner the market effectively with FH then yeah who knows.

>>9488906
long time since I saw the friendly looking bogoff

>>9488355
>>9488572
>they're probably getting Formosat'd to a BFR
>Why would they want to wait an additional 10 years just to fly on BFR?

I know SpaceX will probably want to take on additional passengers if they actually go down that route. But can you imagine for a second how fucking awesome it would be if you could have the entire BFR just for the two of you for a trip around the moon? Maybe with a small entourage of technicians and waitstaff. It'd be hard to top that kind of first class treatment.

>>9488317

>>9488767
No. It's a massive meme rocket with no use at all.

>>9489019
>citation needed

>>9489029
Prove that it's not a meme. And no, them designing a new engine is not a sign that such a useless rocket will be built. They could just as easily put that engine into a new, not retarded rocket.

>>9489033
>Useless

I don't see how a reusable rocket with a cheap launch cost and massive payload capability is useless. The technology for the BFR is pretty much already there, they just need to integrate it into the BFR shell.

>>9489036
Well, firstly it won't be cheap. They can't get a smaller rocket to be the mythical and totally true "$200k" per launch. And yes, a massive payload capacity is useless. No one needs such massive payloads. The most powerful rocket that exists today is the Delta 4 Heavy, and that's only flown every 18 months or so and only carries US government payloads.

I find the downplaying of rocket development and the simplification of engineering to be hilarious. The "technology" for rockets in general has been around for over half a century, yet rocket development still takes an inordinate amount of time and failures are still possible.

>yfw Falcon Heavy works flawlessly and Russia panics and restarts the Energia/Uragan project in response

>>9489059
https://www.rt.com/news/356699-russia-heavy-rocket-moon/

A little late for that. Though a full Vulkan-Hercules Energia would be a sight to see. 8 boosters separating and landing on an airfield.

>>9488767
SpaceX is committed to it. The Red Dragon Mars platform and the lunar tourist mission were both cancelled because they distracted from BFR. Facilities are early in planning. If BFR is even partially realized, SpaceX could be making an order of magnitude more profit than they would with Falcon 9/Heavy, and they know it.

>>9489047
>The most powerful rocket that exists today is the Delta 4 Heavy, and that's only flown every 18 months or so and only carries US government payloads.
Because it costs 400k

>>9489065
Not really. The thing many people don't realize is that the launch costs are a fraction of the total cost of a satellite/probe. Just look at the cost of probes or telescopes and compare them to the cost of the rocket they launched on.

Cassini–Huygens: 3.26B, launched on a Titan IV
Curiosity: 2.5B, launched on an Atlas V
Juno: 1.1B, launched on an Atlas V
New Horizons: 700M, launched on an Atlas V
James Webb: 8.8B, planned for launch on an Ariane 5.
Euclid: 1.2B, planned for launch on a Soyuz 2
BepiColombo: 1.2B, planned for launch on an Ariane 5.

I could go on, but you get the point.

>>9489100
lots of that cost is due to size, weight, and time restrictions.
The missions are specced to last 15+ years or whatever.

With high launch cadence and low $/kg to orbit, probes can be cheaper simply due to the fact that you can launch 2x the mass 4x as often for 1/2 the cost.

>>9489064
>the lunar tourist mission were both cancelled
Give us just one (1) reason to take you seriously when you're this wrong?

>>9489104
Euclid wasn't restricted by size, weight, or time as the Ariane 5 was an option yet it still costs over a billion.

>>9489100
>James Webb: 8.8B, planned for launch on an Ariane 5.

Can't wait until this blows up and we shut down NASA.

>>9489120
pls no not webb

>>9489120
Uhh, you do realize that the Ariane 5 has a practically spotless record? It's never exploded on the pad and it's been squeaky clean for over a decade. The recent partial failure was caused by humans, not the rocket.

>>9489100
The costs are so high in that list of probes because:
1) they can't do lots of flights to test technology or work on them from orbital space stations where real space conditions are just an airlock away, so they end up spending huge amounts of money doing testing and analysis on the ground to make sure things will work on the first try,
2) the rockets are anemic, so they end up spending huge amounts of money on keeping the mass down, and often having to go back to the drawing board after a large investment in development because something violated the mass budget,
3) these are big government projects where there's no monetary return, so the profit motive is entirely focused on extracting the maximum amount of funds from the public purse into specific individual hands, and the high cost and low launch rate of existing launch vehicles makes that far easier for the profiteers, and
4) you're cherry-picking the most expensive missions, the ones where costs spiralled out of control (related to the above three factors) but people played politics well enough to keep the money flowing.

>>9489128
>The recent partial failure was caused by humans
exactly

>>9489128
You know they just lost a satellite with their last launch, right?

>>9489131
Alright, fine. How about normal LEO satellites that turn a profit?

>Building such a complex machine requires lots of resources, which is why, historically, only government agencies and corporations with deep pockets have been able to get into the satellite business. Much of the cost is wrapped up in the equipment carried by a satellite -- transponders, computers and cameras. A typical weather satellite carries a price tag of $290 million; a spy satellite might cost an additional $100 million.

They can easily cost more. Zuma cost billions yet was a spy satellite.

>>9489142
Why you lyin? The satellites weren't lost.

>SES-14 needs about 4 weeks longer than planned commissioning time, meaning that entry into service now expected in August instead of July.[12] Nevertheless, SES-14 is still expected to be able to meet the designed life time, since it does not use chemical propulsion which could reduce more life time if such thing happened.[13] SES informed NASA that they expect no effect on the quality of observations and data of the agency’s GOLD instrument after the launch anomaly.[14]

>Al Yah 3 was also confirmed healthy after more than 12 hours without further statement, and like SES-14, Al Yah 3's maneuvering plan was also revised to still fulfill the original mission.[15]

>>9488317
THANK YOU BASED ELON

>>9489150
The rocket was so off course that automatic self detonation should have been triggered. They're however too proud of their 'spotless record' and endangered lives not doing so.

>>9489122
>>9489128
I don't think the rocket is going to be the problem. NASA is going to fuck something up. Worse than hubble this time.

CGI
the earth is flat
wake up sheeple

>itt

>>9489205
>citation needed

>>9489205
Go back to your own kind

>>9489240
Say what you want about me, but leave Eric out of this.
That man is Meteorologist Jesus Incarnate for Houstonians and we will find you and make you suffer if you talk shit about him.

>>9489240
Trumpster,

Without Space X and New Zealand's Electron, ULA would have a monopoly on heavy lifts and wouldn't be doing anything to cut costs.

she's a big girl

>>9489292
>electron
>heavy lift

>>9489374
you gotta say tho, electric turbopumps a cute

>>9489144
> How about normal LEO satellites that turn a profit?
The first two factors still apply: the high launch costs prevent in-space testing or strategies of launching multiples in case of failure, and the low payloads require a lot of effort to minimize mass.

>A typical weather satellite carries a price tag of $290 million; a spy satellite might cost an additional $100 million.
Those figures are close to the actual cost of a launch. SpaceX has been drastically undercutting the competition.

>Zuma cost billions
How stupid do you have to be to believe this? It's part of the whispering campaign intended to discredit SpaceX, as a classified launch where claims like "SpaceX screwed up!" and "it cost BILLYUNS!" can't be debunked.

>>9489380
>electric turbopumps a cute

>>9489370
>Baby boomer on Harley

Kek, welcome to Florida.

what's your mars flag design?

>>9489397

>>9489397

>>9489370
Thats literally the scene from the first fantastic4 movie with Johnny storm riding a motorcycle to the spaceship.

T-minus 12 hours let's go boisssssss

>>9488327
>tfw you realize his real goal is busting a nut in trans-mars orbit

>>9489418
>He busts a nut in his Tesla before it launches tomorrow so his seed wanders the solar system for the rest of time

>>9489425
>it actually crashes into Mars causing his nut to form a new primordial soup that the Martian race will eventually emerge from...

>>9489425
>>9489530

(Direct) Panspermia in a nutshell.

>>9489530

>>9489059
They dropped the angara and don't have money to fix their existing line namely the protons, and are afflicted by embarrassing failures of all kinds. The chinks are more likely to try something in the 40+ ton range but not in the near future.

>>9489591
Isn't the second start planned for this year? Also I don't see how they need to fix the design of the proton, its a well established launch system. Just make sure no one installs anything the wrong way around again.

Cant wait to see how the feed will cut of as it enters the atmosphere.

>>9488317
I am ready

>>9489036
>and massive payload capability

These payloads do not exist that's why.

>>9489559
>Man fucks machine

The ending to Star Trek: The Motion Picture in a nutshell

>>9488691
I'm gonna burn a 100$ bill in solidarity to the 10 billion dollars that is going to be burned.

>>9489720
That's kind of circular.

>>9489105
It's undeniable fact that both Red Dragon and the lunar tourist mission were cancelled, and BFR was cited as the reason both times.

>>9489105
see >>9488227

Why does SpaceX keep saying it's going to Mars when it isn't?

> If we are successful with this, it is game over for all the other heavy lift rockets

#incel

>>9489754
It's going to Mars, it's just not going to stay there.

>>9489754
Dunno

>>9489754
It is the same trajectory needed to reach mars, just wrong timing. The reason for the wrong timing is because they are testing the falcon heavy, not putting a car on mars.

how many bongs

>>9489812
T-minus 5 bong

>>9489812
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20180206T183000&p0=1440

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

after all this time we're finally here
fuckign cool

Grandson and I will be making a whole drinking game out of the event. Gonna down a shot for each Merlin ignition.

Strawpoll on results
http://www.strawpoll.me/15014863

>yfw you see the roadster seperate and fly away into space with starman in the drivers seat

>>9489861
>no reschedule for 6 months later option

>>9488486
it won't it'll explode before leaving the mesosphere

>>9489862
>starman
It's the Stig!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_KXgFpguE0

Crazy to think that perhaps one day, humans centuries later will fly to that floating roadster and make some 3018 memes out of it

>>9489869
>Looks like someone missed the left turn at Albuquerque

ULA soyboys get OUT

>>9489861

You can thank Amber Heard if the launch gets delayed again.

>>9489869
>centuries later

>>9489788
The SpaceX website and animation are pretty explicit about the car supposedly going to Mars, but obviously a heliocentric orbit that intersects Mars orbit is different. Maybe it's good publicity, but it's false advertising too.

>>9489947
It should get kind of close to Mars sometimes. Every thousand years or something.

>>9489947 Also, the car won't detach from the stage.

>>9489957
I hope not, that's where the camera is mounted.

>>9489760
It's not going to Mars because it's not landing so it never actually makes physical contact with it, it's going near/around Mars, you fucking neanderthal.

How many hours until launch?

>>9489982
2 bongs 27 bings

>>9489982
2 and a half

>>9489947
normies don't understand the diffrence and will think this anyway so you might as well say it yourself.
Think of it as telling a child that santa is real even though he's not, there's no malicious intent in it.

>>9488305
Couldn't they launch something slightly useful? Why a fucking car?

Tried to get into Playalinda beach at 8:30 AM but they were full.

>>9489990
First launches usually carry shit like concrete blocks anyway, might as well do something interesting.

>>9489990
no one is suicidal enough to put an expensive payload on an untested launch platform unless there are no other options.

>>9489986
>>9489987
Thanks. How long until it explodes?

12 miles away, they closed playalinda beach

>>9489995
either before booster seperation or not at all would be my guess

>>9489990
To make ESA scientists rage while their beautiful projects are shut down due to lack of funds.

>>9489996
can you just stay there and wait in your car?

>>9489996
They told me it was full

>>9489993
Except NASA that want to put people on first SLS launch.

>>9489996
jetty park is at full capacity too

>>9489992
Not the same guy but a car in space is no different than a fucking block of concrete, they're both completely functionless. I'm not really familiar with this whole 'mission' but if they're aiming for a Mars fly-by wouldn't it be smart to put something at least a bit useful on there?

>>9490009
>but a car in space is no different than a fucking block of concrete
That's my point, nobody will put anything other than a non functioning dead mass anyway so you might as well make it interesting.

>>9490001
>>9490004
There are a few spots left here at parrish park right after the bridge, until people start parking retarded that is.

>>9489995
Either max Q or we go full kerbal at booster separation.
It'd be interesting to see the two smash into each other like is routine in ksp launches desu.

>>9490009
Elon is just a megalomaniac guy driven by ambition, scientific research doesn't matter to him except if it serves him. Unfortunately this is his launch and he does what he wants. So no science here.

>>9490009
It a 50/50 success rate launch. Why risk millions of equipment on a coin flip?

>>9490013
How is a non-functioning block of metal so much more interesting than a block of other material?

>>9490018
This guy is such a fucking hack, isn't he

>>9490019
Aren't you already spending way to much on just sending it all the way there? Surely some standard satellite/probe equipment doesn't cost fucking millions.

>>9490004
which is allright as long as the launch abort system is proven to work. No such thing for unmanned payloads

>>9490022
How is a non-functioning block of metal so much more interesting than a block of other material?

You think flying a car into orbit is no different than flying a metal cylinder?

>>9490019
Probes are costly because of design, the machine itself is way cheaper. Just send something interesting like Mars Express 2 instead of a fucking car

>>9490025
>You think flying a car into orbit is no different than flying a metal cylinder?
Tell me how it isn't, a payload is a payload, it's still covered in a fairing so the shape means nothing.

>being so much of a brainlet you actually get fussy over what's being used as deadweight

It's going to explode on the pad anyway so it literally doesn't matter.

>>9488317
>Mars colony

JELLO BABIES!!!
JELLO BABIES!!!
JELLO BABIES!!!

>>9490022
>Surely some standard satellite/probe equipment doesn't cost fucking millions.
>Source: my ass

The only thing that fit the cheap category is cubesats, and that are completely useless in an eliocentric orbit, too small even for the basic communication equipment.

>>9490026
>Mars Express 2
>cheap because already designed
Manifacturing costs of a custom built probe are HIGH, even if you build two of them.

>>9489973
"to mars" ≠ "on mars"

Soon

>live in 2 hours
>61,250 waiting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c

Shit, that's a lot of people already. Any wagers on how many people will be viewing this? Think it will top 300k?

>>9490037
Well yes you moron. You don't say you're going to a country when you're just passing several kms from the border.

>>9490032
lmao, let's hope for a show.

>>9490039
>that webm
FUGG

>>9490000
nice round figure confirms your hypothesis

>>9490037
>>9489973
It will land on Mars. It can't hang in orbit forever. Though, depending on the orbit it goes into, that may be as long as 1,000 years, but more like just a few years.

>>9490045

>>9490031
>Tell me how it isn't, a payload is a payload, it's still covered in a fairing so the shape means nothing.
The fairing separates you tard.

>>9490048
Heliocentric orbit between Earth and Mars will be millions/billions of years.

Wtf I love musk now

>>9490060
>The fairing separates
After it's already mostly out of atmosphere where the shape makes absolutely no difference because there's no fucking air resistance you fucking retard.

>>9490062
I thought it was Mars orbit.

>>9490036
> manufacturing costs [...] are HIGH
Come on, it's Elon musk we're talking about, couldn't have he made an offer to some space agency to send their discount probe for free ?

They will fuck up for using murica metric system, trust me

>>9490062
Some faggot asteroid miner will have captured it by then.
>tfw you will never crash land on mars

>>9490069
the other reason is that Elon and co. want the focus to be on the rocket, and not on the payload. Sure, he could have probably offered to launch some student payloads or a prototype solar sail or something, but that would really kill PR if the rocket exploded and it would take the focus away from the launch vehicle itself.

"missing out" on a cheap launch means nothing anyways. In five years it won't matter at all.

>>9490068
Nah. Heliocentric orbit.

How long would common electronics last in reasonable lead vault pressurized with some nitrogen and obviously kept "warm". I'm aware there will be some weight penalty compared to minimalistic approach but I'm just asking for a friend...

>>9490069
>Hello, I'm Elon meme
>Do you have any millions worth spare probe you want placed between Earth and Mars? I'll try my new exploding stick and need a payload.
>Oh, the rocket could blow up btw.
>No? who cares i'll launch my old car then bye.

>>9490076
This is not the point. Having a picture of a Tesla above Mars will make a nice ad. It's only a marketing hit.

>>9490082
This. Epic free marketing for Musk. Just look at the preview video.

>>9490073
>Year: 2120A.D.
>Ship: ESA Excursion
>Mission: Refugee resupply of UK Mine Base Alpha
>Status: Emergency Situation; Drifting

So how long until some morons come along and need to harvest parts from the Tesla in order to fix their shitbucket and there's a movie made about it?

>>9490089
The Martian 2: Electric Bogaloo.

meanwhile on /r/aspergers

>>9490068
>>9490077
*"near Mars helio-centric orbit"

Think he wants to have it as a possible monument in space that his Mars city great great grandchildren can look at with a telescope and wonder what the heck he was thinking.

>>9490039
>82,557 waiting

This is as much as normal viewing when rockets launch, not 100mins before. wow

>>9490092
plebbit can't even into funny retard bait, nothing new

>>9490093
I checked the orbit, it is an intersection course basically. One that would be used if you wanted to launch an orbiter or lander for Mars later on. It just proves it can be done with that rocket.

>>9490092
Don't post shit from there.

>>9490092
Cheapcows2003 pls go back.

launch pushed back a smidge https://twitter.com/spaceflightnow/status/960914804046290945

also, Elon tweeted this, confirming fearing recovery

>>9490018
>no science
I bet that they'll try to spin the tires once the car is in orbit, just for scientific giggles.

>>9490098
The youtube clock hasn't been updated yet.

>>9490004
Yeah, because Trump asked for it to happen. The first couple SLS launches were only supposed to be cargo / satellite launches until Trump came along and said "go faster".

>>9490092
seriously though, the orbit should intersect Earth's as well, so it would be more likely to "crash" (aka burn up in the atmosphere) on Earth than on Mars, especially since Mars actually won't be there the first time or two that it reaches apohelion

>>9490102
Larger satellites than a car have reentered without a problem. The car, mount, and everything with it wouldn't be a problem for Earth.

What a fucking waste of a mission.
Payload is ridiculous.
Couldn't they just go around the globe and search for university science projects to put on the thing?

Posting in a sticky.

>>9490112
no

HEAVY
FALCON

>>9490112
no, the point is to demonstrate the rocket. This is a SpaceX *test*. But due to Elon, with a funny mass simulator.

Plus, they are testing a direct-to-GEO insertion to qualify for certain EELV requirements for nat sec payloads.
also: https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/960918568123686912

Now 2:20 PM EST

>>9490113
oh lawd

>>9490066
Why does the shape matter you fucking retard?

>>9490114
It verges on the unethically wasteful.

>>9490112
It is a test flight. There's a high chance it will blow up on the launch pad.

>>9490122
You're the one arguing it does, fucking retard.

>>9490126
It is a test flight. You don't put shit on test flights that is worth anything. Besides, this type of advertising is worth billions if it works.

>>9490102
Someone ran the simulation for a really long time and apparently it'll come into earths SOI in 2040, i don't know if it'll get pulled enough to go into the atmosphere.

>>9490127
so? Many universities will take the chance for a free payload ride.

>>9490112
>Payload is ridiculous.

Payload is more interesting than random inert mass of concrete and steel

Why am I so unreasonably hyped.
Science does not advance in leaps, but in baby steps.

I cannot put a lid on my hype, please help me dampen it a bit.

SHIT

>Liftoff of SpaceX’s Falcon Heavy from the Kennedy Space Center is now targeted for 2:20pm EST (1920 GMT).

>>9490135
It'll be the longest trip by a Tesla without using a supercharger.

>time slipped almost an hour already
we're doneso
cya tomorrow

>>9490130
I'm the one arguing it doesn't, it's you that thinks it somehow fucking matters if its a car of a block of concrete.

>>9490136
>>9490134
>>9490137
the non meme answer is that they need an excuse to test direct-to-GEO insertion to qualify for certain EELV requirements to launch nat. sec. payloads. Thus the 6hr coast and other orbit details.

It's a big deal - with direct-to-GEO capabilities, the last holdout of ULA gets eroded away, with SpX being able to bid on EVERY govt mission.

>>9490140
Back to r/SpaceX faggot

>>9490136
I don't really think you get it. This literally is not for science advancement and never was or will be. This is all about engineering. We already have the science needed to do everything that is Musk's end goal.

>>9490136
But no university will take the chance for a free payload ride with a 50/50 chance of exploding and spacex doesn't want tomorrows headlines to be "elon musk destroys 200 student's work"

official update https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/960920426485399552

>>9490146
No, it's the other way around, retard.

>>9490140
>hype over literally nothing
kys, brainlet

>>9490151
this....
sceince advances on the back of engineers after all

>>9490155
It will delayed till tomorrow at this rate.

>>9490155
>T-0 delayed to 2:20 p.m. EST, 19:20 UTC due to upper level wind shear. Continuing to monitor winds and will update as info becomes available.

>>9490155
>SpaceX: T-0 delayed to 2:20 p.m. EST, 19:20 UTC due to upper level wind shear. Continuing to monitor winds and will update as info becomes available.
It begins.

FALCON HEAVY IS ALWAYS 60 MINUES AWAY

>>9490160
The window ends as 4:30EST I think.

>>9490160
Six months away for six years
Six weeks away for six months
Six days away for six weeks
Six hours away for six days

POST YOUR GAME FACE

>111,620 waiting
>clock hasn't changed for the updates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c

>>9490166
>All systems remain go for today’s test flight of Falcon Heavy. Weather is 90% favorable for today’s two-and-a-half hour launch window, which opens at 1:30 p.m. EST, or 18:30 UTC.

So 4pm EST is the end of the window.

I'm hyped and not ashamed. There were no men on the moon during my lifetime. I remember being hyped at first rover on Mars and probe on Titan. So I'm hyped today and I'm hopeful, that this is the end of the hiatus.

>>9490149
Nice.
>>9490143
Kek

>SCRUB

@9490179
Is this the most plebbit tier post itt?

>>9490176
> 10% unfavorable weather is holding us up
So will they launch if it drops to 5%?

>>9490183
>@
>calls people plebbit

>>9490183
>@

>>9490183
>@

[quote;func=quot_post_]9490183

ahaha wow, reddit exposes themselves, gb2 that shithole fag

>>9490183
:@)

>>9490183
>@
what the FUCK

>>9490183
(@_@)

>>9490186
>>9490187
>>9490192
>>9490193
>>9490194
>>9490199
Is this your first day here? lmao

>>9489240
Anon i know you're upset it couldn't be your mom we launched into space, but even with two extra Falcon 9's we just couldn't lift her.

>>9490202
Is it yours?

>Elon Musk@elonmusk
>Upper atmosphere winds currently 20% above max allowable load. Holding for an hour to allow winds to diminish. #FalconHeavy

GOD DAMN IT!

>>9490206
NEVER EVER

>>9490202
no u

>>9490205

>>9490005
Cocoa Beach pier is getting quite full

>>9490206

>>9490206
So 2:30?

Pack it up, guys. Delayed until tomorrow.

>>9490220
Launch window opens at 2:50, webcast 20-30 minutes before.

How long of a rant can we expect from Thunderf00t?

>>9490220
>Launch of the Falcon Heavy rocket is now targeted for no earlier than 2:50pm EST (1950 GMT) to allow additional time to evaluate upper level winds.

>>9490229
Since when has he become relevant again? He's a maddox tier failure.

>>9490220
>>9490230
Currently sill 2:20pm EST

>>9490227
Window is 1:30pm EST to 4pm EST

>>9489292
Electron is no threat to ULA, only to the other twenty micro-launcher startups.

It is like a cute baby F9. First launcher in history to drop spent batteries during flight.

>>9490226
not yet, the delay is (so far) only caused by winds, which are expected to clear up. the launch is currently scheduled for 19:50 UTC

>>9490236
its confirmed for 2:50 at the earliest...
https://twitter.com/ExploreSpaceKSC/status/960926105652813824
https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/960925576835018752
https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/960927047605506049

where are my fellow floridafags viewing from?

>>9490241
My fucking living room.
Not driving across the state just for this shit to get pushed back to tomorrow

>>9490241
Currently sitting in restaurant on the Cocoa Beach pier. If you see someone wearing an Eagles hat, that's me. (Please don't say hi)

>>9490241
Molecular chemistry lab, where we aren’t allowed to have our phones out

>>9490246
anon I am literally in the same restaurant I think
i see a guy wearing an eagles hat on his phone
I'll leave you alone but hello anyway

>>9490246
hi

>>9490255
You two better fug

>>9489696
>things I always lose
This would be top kek

>>9490255
If he just walked out of the restaurant the yeah that's me lmao, went out to put more money in the meter due to the delay

>>9490241
i'm off the highway in the banana river. someone pls bring me water.

bugger

>>9490264
>If he just walked out of the restaurant the yeah that's me lmao
>literally fleeing the scene

delay delay delay god damnit.

>>9490255
>>9490264
well that must be awkward for you two

>>9490270
I didn't say I wasn't autistic. But I honestly didn't see the reply until I was halfway down the pier, kek

>>9490264
LOL yeah it's you

Nearly 200k people watching and the stream isn't even live. Damn.

>>9490274
Kek
Also
>vehicles

>>9490275
if just 100 of them are able and willing to be mars colonists, he has his first batch of people to send over there

>>9490280
That mars one scam thingy demonstrated that plenty of people are willing to die on mars...

>>9490275
Needs commercials.
All this delays create so much build up.
A new business model for Elon.

>>9490280
there's tens of millions qualified and willing people who would take a one-way trip without much hesitation; obviously way too many to actually house
I have a feeling the ticket lottery is going to be insane in 50 years or whatever

>>9490280
At what point will the number of people willing to get übercancer and live with no internet on an empty desert get so small that they literally start picking at random?

>>9490282
I'm surprised they don't stream simultaneously on Twitch. Could just get Scott Manley or somebody to play KSP, E:D, EVE, etc while the chat spams memes.

>>9490282
>delay rocket for 2 hours just to run more commercials

maximum jewry

it's now 20:05 GMT

WE STICKY NOW

>SpaceX has pushed back launch of the Falcon Heavy rocket to no earlier than 3:05pm EST (2005 GMT) as teams continue assessing winds aloft.

JUST LAUNCH THE FUCKING THING ALREADY FUCK

>>9490288

The rocket is getting cancelled, isn't it?

>>9490292
Nigga you ever take a stresses course? Shear winds against a 200m tall rocket are dangerous af

Delayed until tomorrow.
Ogre

Less than one hour of delays before todays window closes and we have to wait until tommorow

>>9490298
bro just tilt it sideways im am engineer

What's the success rate?

where are yall gettin updates from

>>9490286
>no internet
a laser comms satellite will be the first bit of infrastructure brought over, as well as enough data storage to archive most/all of the books, media, and music humanity has made
they wont be lacking entertainment when they go over

also they'd be living underground because domes a shitty safety hazard

>>9490305
can confirm it works in ksp

>people paid to watch a rocket that will be delayed

>>9490264
>two anons encounter eachother
>one of them runs like from the plague
LOL

>>9490294
Lol, I'm drunk.

>>9490288
Stop countdown at 0:03. See you same time tomorrow. And now let's hear it from our sponsors.

>>9490308
have fun using 4chan with 40 minute delay.

>>9490298
But


we want it to explode

Just blow that wind the other way.

>>9490315
it wont be much worse than what aussies have to deal with right now

>>9490319
That's how we beat irma

>>9490319
With 2 salvaged boosters installed horizontally near the pad.

Why not put simply put a large fan on the rocket and let it absorb the wind energy?

>everybody's waiting hours for FH
>keeps getting delayed
>alright guys the winds are gone lets launch it
>blows up on launch pad

>>9490328
Plsbetrue

>>9490280
NASA would never allow such risk of life. The shitstorm if spacex actually tries to send people beyond leo especially without any authorization will be bigger than anything anyone can imagine.

>>9490307
r/SpaceX, Twitter, spaceflightnow

Hey guys, a friend of mine is in St. Petersburg, Florida. That's only 152 miles away from the launch site, will he be able to see the light and smoke?

>>9490328
>rocket flies perfectly
>engines off
>music plays
>we get an amazing shot of the car with earth in the background
>it just randomly detonates for no reason

>>9490331
And how exactly does the NASA has any authority on who goes into space?

WINDS ARE GETTING WORSE FUCK ME

Continuing monitoring upper level wind shear. New T-0 is 3:05 p.m. EST, 20:05 UTC.

>>9490281
This.
People willing to go for free is no issue.
Just like the first colonists from France or British Empire too North America.

>>9490338
Absolutely not

>>9490338
yes, though not very well during the day. you could see shuttle launches very well at night from ~150mi

>>9490341
Fuck weather

We need to fix this shit, fund it mars man

>>9490281

Plenty of people die every year trying to climb fucking mountains for no reason other than adrenaline.

Of course there will be people willing to risk Mars flight.

so 2 hours?

CALLED OFF
CALLED OFF
CALLED OFF
Everybody go home
Musk btfo again

>>9490331
By then Kanye is president and noone cares.

>>9490352
2 days*

>>9490331
>NASA
>in charge of anything in space
The UN might become "concerned", but that would be it.

>>9490331
without authorization? what the fuck, they need permission from the gubbermint to send willing people to mars?


or what, police will come with guns and take everybody away? Let me guess, and if they don't obey, then they're resisting, which means they get shot.

>government: the biggest gang on the street

>>9490354
citation needed fag

>>9490331
what NASA wants does not matter in the slightest, as he can make and use his own launch pads, or the pads of other countries that are willing
also why the fuck would NASA even care?
not their personnel, not their money, not their problem

>>9490362
>fag
Why the homophobia?

>>9490362
see >>9490354

>>9490354
yes, one scrub of a brand new rocket due to winds. How will Elon ever recover

>>9490345
>Absolutely not

damn, even if he gets up on a high building and uses binoculars?

>>9490347
>yes, though not very well during the day. you could see shuttle launches very well at night from ~150mi

it's worth a shot imo

>>9490339
>second stage ignites
>range safety has to blow it
>the car is space debris in a decaying orbit

>>9490364
because the homosexual lifestyle is unhealthy and very well should be shamed
>>9490365
I did because I responded to that post you mong

>>9490331
>NASA
>allow

If murrkans are bitches about it he could always go to chinks.

>>9490284
>there's tens of millions qualified and willing people who would take a one-way trip without much hesitation
You're way overestimating that. Lots of people like the idea, but to actually go? One way?

Never again relax in a grassy field and watch puffy white clouds in the blue sky, or have a day at the beach with your friends? Earth is a hell of a nice place, and the thought of never returning to it is horrifying to most people.

Maybe someday Mars will be developed to the point of being as comfortable and fun to be on as Earth, but the pioneers will likely either expect they can return to Earth at some point, or they'll be escaping bad conditions on Earth.

>>9490371
>>>/pol/

>>9490363
if he launches in the USA he needs a federal range safety officer which either comes from NASA or the military

if the American government gets a big enough stick up their ass they could legally prevent him from launching by refusing to monitor the rocket

>>9490364
Because you and every other faggot are a plague upon this world that deserve to be eradicated.
faggot.

>>9490374
>Never again relax in a grassy field and watch puffy white clouds in the blue sky, or have a day at the beach with your friends?
what the fuck are you smoking nobody does that in real life

give most people a stable food source and connection to media and they'll be fine for years

>>9490379
>t. stinky neet that never goes outside

>>9490375
did you know that you don't have to be a literal nazi to think gays are fags

>>9490374

they'll have an oculus with them

>>9490379
millennials and gen z'ers aren't people

>>9490375
It's not even a stormfag opinion. It's pretty common and widespread
You're on 4chan, you're going to be upset by the word fag?

>>9490383
>>9490377
>>9490387

I personally am not gay
I just respect gay folks choices
Therefore please keep it down with the rude language

>>9490314
>Stop countdown at 0:03.

>>9490328
Bovie mixtape breaks.
On repeat:
Major... cont...
Major... cont...
Major... cont...
Major... cont...

>>9490387
being common doesn't mean it's correct

>>9490376
>be faggots and prevent the mars colonization mission
>NASA PR fucking tanks and everyone involved in the block gets fired
>rocket goes ahead as normal soon after

while governments might openly loathe their populations, they still gotta dance to their tune if there's enough of them bitching

5 more minutes delayed. I really hope they don't catch go fever and scrub it if they have to

>>9490391
>Therefore please keep it down with the rude language
alright you're not deserving of any more (you)s

>>9490391
mandatory electrotherapy for faggots when???

launch now targeted for 3:10.

i thought i missed it. god delayed it for me and i say bless him.

may jesus be with you and elon too

daily reminder to not respond to people who use reddit spacing

>>9490404
now 3:15 lolololololol

Space X Twitter still says 2:20 but that was an hour ago. What's the current expected time, and please give a source so I can keep up.

It's dead.

>>9490169
The meme has became a prophecy.

>The Falcon Heavy countdown is in a hold at this time. Officials expect to target a new launch time shortly. Today’s window closes at 4pm EST (2100 GMT).

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT FUCK

I hope it explodes properly

>>9490411
3:30pm est now, i'm at ksc

It will blow up while fuelling.
Screencap this.

https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/960939240489185280

>>9490417
Link or GTFO.

>>9490422
>https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/960939240489185280
>10:12 AM
?

>>9490417
SOURCE GOD DAMNIT

LEL

>>9490425
https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/960939300069265411

>>9490430
>1h

>>9490376
Then he'll launch from any other space centers.
Wave enough cash under the Kazakhstan government and they'll give him Baikonor once Russia moves all their rockets to the two new launchpads inside of Russia.

>>9490430
there is no way that tweet is 1 hour old. nice try

>>9490430
>1h
I, too, can use inspect element.

DON'T DO THIS TO ME YOU FUCKERS

I'VE BEEN WAITING TOO LONG FOR THIS

>>9490430
It works in my machine retard

>>9490437
>>9490436
>>9490433
REEEEEEEEE I CHANGED IT FUCKING JS WHY DOES IT CHANGE IT BACK AUTOMATICALLY

did they disclose actual payload weight for this flight? is it still just a car hull?

>>9490439
better a scrub than it goes boom

Is this how getting blue balled fells like?

please stop posting fake updates i am very tired. ok bye.

>>9490444
boom is entertainment though

when will we have a rocket powerful enough to not give a fuck about wind

>>9490444
lol no a boom is the second best outcome

>>9490445
Yes.

>>9490451
*Thrusts dick towards sky*

>>9490264
I will fucking kill you

space doesn't real guys. please grow up

Fucking winds, we should nuke earth atmosphere already

>>9490451
They'll just need side thrusters like they have on big ships.
Wind starts pushing, push back.