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9449214 No.9449214 [Reply] [Original]

Face it /sci/ math is just applied philosophy. Numbers are arbitrary. Proofs are just classical logic. It is a way of describing our world just as philosophers do.

>> No.9449238

>>9449214
Negative.

Math... lets say numbers are more fundamental than philosophy.

>> No.9449267

>>9449238
Except philosophy is more fundamental. Try describing the essence of reality itself with numbers...

>> No.9449271

>>9449214
You're saying that as though it's a pejorative. It's not, philosophy is the only actual thing that matters, engineer brainlet.

>> No.9449275

logic describes relations between qualities and math descibes relations between quantities

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>>9449271
engineering is applied physics are you really this demented?

>> No.9449481

>>9449457
>engineering is applied physics

And applied:
Computer science
Chemistry
Biology
Sociology
Psychology
Geology

>> No.9449488

Daily reminder that anything applied Is better than autistic theory

>> No.9449534

>>9449267
An emergent product of language. Everything is applied linguistics if rationality stems from the use of ever more descriptive words

>> No.9449703

I think I see your point but you could have phrased it better. Mathematics definitely comes from a foundation of logic and philosophy and would not exist without them.

>> No.9449709

>>9449534
This
Without language there is no math or physics.

>> No.9449713

>Fundamentals is same as the field itself
I don't have a brainlet wojac that goes with your retardation.

>> No.9449720

>>9449214
>Numbers are arbitrary.
How many fingers am I holding up?

>> No.9449802

I think math and philosophy aren’t that different. It’s like math being another language and both try to describe the essence of reality, just from different points of view. IMO they crave the same goal only in other ways.

>> No.9449810

>>9449238

Maths are just advanced logic

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>> No.9449846

Fuck off brain/lit/

>> No.9449862

>>9449802
Neither of them tries to study something as ridiculous and meaningless as "the essence of reality"

>> No.9449870

Face it OP, you're just a retard.

>> No.9450038

>>9449810

>This

>> No.9450412

>>9449709
wrong

>> No.9450425

>>9449709
>>9449709
False

>> No.9450804

>>9449481
>Applied sociology
>Applied psychology
Social engineering?

>> No.9450817

>>9449214
Get image first.

>> No.9450861

>>9449810
Provide me with a logic which can be utilized to prove all of mathematics.

>> No.9450977

>>9450861
Provide time to do so...

>> No.9450982

>>9450977
Would potentially infinite time do it?

>> No.9450991

>>9449214
Philosophy is a game with objectives and no rules. Mathematics is a game with rules and no objectives.

Math is poetry for people who are only smart, and philosophy is garbage written and consumed by posers.

>> No.9451240

>>9450991
Wouldn't "no rules" itself be a rule?

>> No.9451276

>>9450991

Philosophy creates the game and its rules.

>> No.9451508

>>9449238
>using negative to mean wrong
OP's statement is absolutely negative.

>> No.9451822

>>9450991
Philosophy is not a game, is an activity.

Both math and philosophy are in the path of creativity, both are creative activities, expressions/manifestations of creativity, ... (or how is put into words what i mean).

>> No.9452374

>>9449267
philosophy is just vaguely using natural language, fucking sociology is more fundamental.

>> No.9452387

>>9449214
You seem to be confusing Logicians and philosophers, there is a massive difference between the two.

>> No.9452418

>>9449214
All I know is I instinctively want to punch philosophy majors. They think they're on the woke path when really it's a whole bunch of garbage. I've spent tons of time reading and thinking philosophically but ultimately the opposite of thinking is doing. You can try to think about stuff but if you don't balance it with actually doing things, eventually your thoughts will stagnate and you'll have nothing

>> No.9452421

>>9449214
basically politics?