/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9446274
took calculus 3 when i was 20 i think

>>9446274
Multivariate at 16.

>>9446318
I'm pretty dumb though, or so I'm told by my friends. Also my IQ is <90.

Started calc 1 in HS at 15, finished calc 3 in college at 18

>>9446274
I have already published books on Banach Algebra in kindergarten.

I wanna study dirichlet problems,monge-ampere equations, sine-gordon equations and some notions oflie-backlund transformations. Any tips?

>>9446274
Ill be nearing 25 when I finish calculus 3.
Started from the very bottom at age 23.

> I worry that I’ll be behind at university

I still don't know Calculus and I just passed a graduate level CS class. I never even got past high-school algebra. Point being, you'll be fine.

>>9446274
Calc 1- 16
Calc 2- 17
Calc 3- 18
Diff eq- 18
PDE - 19

>>9447549
Exactly the same for me, except I turned that age a couple weeks after starting each class.

>>9446274
Indians invented calculus long before newton did

I started teaching myself when I was 13 or 14.

Didn't do multivariable calculus until when I got into college, so I was 18 or 19.

There's a pretty broad range of situations that makes everyone different. Although I got an early start, I ended up pretty far behind a lot of other people who have, for example, finished diff eq's before coming to university. Does it really matter? I don't think so.

Just try to enjoy it, OP. Calculus is a great new way to think about things. It really changed the way I think about/approach tons of problems. Think deeply about simple things and don't worry if your thoughts aren't sophisticated enough.

>>9446600
>CS class
>>>/g/tfo

>>9446274
Are you retarded? In your average American high school, Calc 1 is often the highest of math they even offer. Most (non-STEM) students don't even go through algebra 2. At worst, you're on par with ordinary STEM students.

>>9446274
It doesnt matter really as even starting at Calc 1 in college will allow plenty of time to finish any math requirements you need in 4 years time still. Nobody will care how old you are when you learn something, but they might care if you actually learned it or not

>>9446274

I'm 20 and Haven't even done Calculus 1 yet
I've never even done pre-calc

my interests are in other maths. I will eventually get around to it for college major purposes but its just really dull

>>9447741
but they never invented the toilet

>>9446274
You arent behind and I dont see how the timing of when you learn something is indicative of your intelligence. Even if you werent taking it right now you could learn it the summer before college or take it on campus your first semester, additionally some colleges assume their freshman are retards and reteach it in relevant programs.

>>9448323
>Calculus
>dull
you arent going to make it anon

>>9448323
Pre-calc is a sham. If you think that calculus is dull then you've obviously never experienced it. This is coming from someone who was apathetic towards math in general until taking calculus.

Finished Calc 1+2 at 17 with maximum grade then proceeded to become a disgusting CS pig who will probably never take Calc 3.

>>9446274
I started teaching myself at 14.
I had diffEQ and calc 3 mastered by 17.
Sometimes I feel like highschool got in the way of my learning.

>>9447741
agree. but it is also a logical outcome so may just be the same results, but they had it worked out first. there is also a chance isaac newton wasn't even real (and his last name is *new-ton*) but rather a group of collaborating scientists - whats my reasoning? for the same reasons as the discussions within this documentary, relating to the church and the enlightenment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07DhMaOgDNs

>>9446274
Calculus - 16
Multivariate Calculus - 17

>>9446274
took calc AB in senior year and i ended up fine. most of the meth majors at my school restarted at calc I to learn it the proper way anyhow
>>9446600
holy shit im a cs major and math minor, this is so true. people in my classes unironically don't know how to solve a system of equations in 2 variables.

>>9448498
>>9448527
I'll be fine. Not everyone has to like the same thing . I'm sorry to rustle your feathers. There's other math out there you know

>>9446274
>not majoring in calculus

>>9446274
21
you don't learn it until uni in EU sadly, which starts at 20-21 usually

>>9449069
If by other math you mean completely pointless and absolutely worthless waste of time, then yeah. Non-pragmatic math is a meme unless you're a 1 in a billion -tier genius, and even then it's meh level shit that'll only earn you a pat on the back.

>>9446274
Calculus doesn't even really start until real analysis, which I started in 4th grade.

>>9449080
you literally described calculus

>>9449084
Butthurt Applied combinatorics -major detected

>>9449080
What are you talking about? I am really sorry that your math education has been so poor calculus is the only thing out there.
Calculus is only good for playing in Calculus land. There's a hell of a lot of math out there
>combinatorics
No thanks

Man could you be any more of a freshman math major

>>9449080
>/sci/- Buisiness

No.
It was never about money. You'll learn.

>>9449104
But it's true. Calculus (Analysis) is the only thing worthwhile if you're going to study math. Algebra cucks need not apply.

>b-but muh physical maths and/or inverse problems
They're just applied analysis.

>>9449113
>calculus (analysis)

Wew. Really showed your hand there anon. You really don't know what your talking about.

>>9449113
you're probably 18, just got to uni, and just took your first (real) calculus class. If you think that calculus is the only thing worthwhile to study in mathematics you are a complete and utter brainlet with little to no understanding of the technology around you allowing the world to function as it does.

>>9449113
>my calculus class was also my intro proofs that means calculus is only thing with proofs
why do math undergrads have no idea what things are outside of calc?

>>9446274
I dropped out of highschool for various reasons and taught myself calculus 1-2 the spring/ summer before I went to community college at 19 years old. Pretty easy. If you have the brain for it. I wouldn't fret. Just study outside of class.

>>9446332
Banach space. Foot converging to your ass in the Cauchy sense.

I come from one of the most retarded parts of the US, so in HS, calculus was regarded as genius-tier useless math only for the most intelligent people in the world.

That means I didn't even start calc until after I took precal in college.

Math majors genuinely think everything that isn't algebra is calculus and algebra is a lesser field of study because they took a high school class called algebra

>>9449132
>>9449134
>>9449137

No need to project your insecurities on me. It's not my fault you were born fucked up and picked some brainlet field because you were afraid of the competition in Analysis. I too have made some mistakes that I regret. For example I wasted a semester learning complex analysis.

>>9449182
cope

>>9446274
I did most of Calc 1 & 2 in HS, so when I was 16 to 17
I spend one year in humanities
My uni is weird and makes us study the equivalent of Calc 1 to 4 in the first year, I finished it at 18
Then I did my first proof-based course at the sweet age of 19 and I started to fell in love with maths

>>9446274
I was 21 cuz uni insisted I start with algebra 2, I would've been done with calc 3 at like 19 otherwise.

>>9446274
>Finish calculus

I'm about to take Elementary Algebra on the second semester of community college.

>>9449182

But analysis is easy

>>9446274
First, you never finish calculus. All it takes is for you to invent a new function and voila, new calculus to discover.

Second, yeah you typically take calculus in high school but you won't be behind because you have to take it again in college. This is because Newton's calculus is basically useless so in college you start calculus again, building it up from Cauchy's epsilon-delta definition of limit.

>>9449182

It's always the same thing in analysis. You just break things down into small parts... prove something about the small parts... then build back up again.

Every damn time. What epsilon do I need to make this happen? What delta do I need? Never anything fresh. It's a pretty stale field of math, I have to admit.

>>9449351

Is this why analysis has no sexy unsolved problems?

Calc 1--21
Calc 2--21
Calc 3--22
Diff Eq and Linear -- 23

I only studied up to pre-calc in high school then took 2 years off before university.

>>9446274
19 and taking Calc II right now
All because I didn't take pre-algebra all the way back in fucking middle school I couldn't take calc I in HS

>>9449645
this except i couldnt take geometry so i only got to do calc AB in hs

>>9449174
?

>>9446524
kudos

>>9449069
yeah.. you're not gonna make it anywhere without calculus pal

>>9446274
I was 19 when I took ODE

I finished multivariable when I was 24, and I'm taking diff.eq (ode) and complex analysis right now. I dropped out of hs and had to start with remedial math (pre-algebra) at a community college.

From what I can tell, most individuals in an engineering program (at state universities) will start in calc 1 and finish calc 3 their 3rd or 4th semester.

I wouldn't worry about being behind, op, cuz you aren't, but I suspect you already know this. Calc at hs level is mostly presented poorly, anyway, so you'll probably want to not skip more than calc 1 in college, if at all.

>>9449182
..

>>9449362
Well, if you need to have problems to have sex, you have a problem you need to solve.

Canceeeer

>>9449351
Small parts? Are you sure?

I tought analysis is abstract tought of the relation between complicity of whole.

Too bad I didn't.

complexicity too.

>>9449078
What kind of trash EU country is this? In Scandinavia, you start learning calculus in high school and finish multivariate the first semester, the second year at uni.

>Somebody learning you to do analysis
>Somebody learning you how to think

Well.

Subject?

Lol this board is so fucking autistic. When you start something has literally nothing to do with how smart you are, outside of literal geniuses who extrapolate theorems with zero formal education.

The earlier you start the more intuitive it will be later in life, like language, but it has no causal relationship with your intelligence whatsoever.

It's literally like saying someone who is bilingual by no choice of their own is smarter than someone who isn't.

>>9449893
I've passed finishing high school calculus in 16. How far it does makes me into it?

>>9449898
My analysis of your idea is that smart means you learn something by choice and you make use of it.

My idea is that somebody who have to put more cognitive effort into it had put more cognitive effort into it. People who handle something better, usually put more cognitive effort into it.

Try cognitive effort as currency for getting things done. If civilization put MOST of it's cognitive effort into the fact of how long you can waste time at being leaving the shop and making it it's MAXIMUM is preferable it has to think more about limits of cognitive effort.

Also being used same adjectives on as thing that can you fit a pocket makes me feel more like contraception than being autistic.

>>9449908
That thing about cognitive effort is pure bullshit, and because there is effort and work done...

And once work is done, you have to put less cognitive effort, for the same work being done.

If you speak 3 languages fluently, you may not be smarter, but you fucking speak them. And that's the point of it.

If all you do is being collage, you learn that it is important to you, because you haven't found out different way how to learn, because it does seem that you are not putting effort into what to learn, and usually you learn something not so important because you learn to do the job, not to get it done.

70 000 is rent, so you can be really alone ( you are many, still alone )

70 000 once is something to do, so you can be even more

I think you lost this analysis.

>>9449908
My idea is that proposing the question ignores the realization that not all people have access to education or go to education because it was too easy and boring and/or not interesting or they had other shit to do. Not everyone sits around with no friends through highschool only studying and not everyone's parents care if they have A's or F's.

Yes, there is a correlation between how early you learn something and your intelligence, but there is no causal relationship, because in real life there's at least 2 major variables that have a greater effect: parenting and quality of available education.

>Sacrificing owns life for a piece of paper
>Thinking drug addicts sacrifice life for a piece

>>9449934
I think neurology explain the fact pretty well.

>>9449934
You are never going to learn something you can cannot analyze to point that you can be in room alone and thinking about itself atleast.

>>9446274
Calc 1 - 16 - 17
Calc 2 - 17 - 18
Calc 3 - 18 - 19
Diff EQ - 18 - 19
I wasted a lot of time in high school so I started trying harder when I went to uni. A lot of people end up going to uni and starting with calc 1 because it's taught more formally at most universities relative to the AP. I wouldn't worry too much about being behind if you go in taking calc 1 or calc 2 and then taking calc 3 as a freshman.

>>9449893
po(o)land

>>9448323
How can you take higher level math classes for a math major without starting the calc sequence at all?

>>9446274
Differential (calc 1) at 14, again at 17
Integral (calc 2) at 16, again at 18
Multivariate (calc 3) at 18
Linear algebra at 18
Ordinary diffy Q at 19
Partial diffy Q at 23

Retaking calc 1-2 in undergrad turned out to be a good move, at least for me as an engineering undergrad. Netted 8 credits of A+, which helped me get a decent internship after freshman year, and it improved my foundation for most subsequent classes.

>>9449959
>linear algebra
>specifically asking about calculus

>>9449934
With education percieved as invaluable, information from parents also.

Is that good parenting?

And does learning how to learn on own early in life gives one an advantage?

>>9449989
Or is it just that repeating other's behavior is called learning too?

>>9449934
Why are the parenting classes unseen solution to most problems? And I don't think changing a diaper is parenting at this point.

>>9449992
Is it that undeveloped brain in developement can be exposed to problems NOBODY solved yet and understand them?

>>9449174
wouldn't math majors be the people who realize algebra is more complicated than what you take in high school considering they are required to take more complicated algebra courses for their degree?

Will everybody be quiet at the point they realize, they wasted fastest and doped years in their life, by realizing something they can ask later and understand response with no mental effort at all, or would they make them schyzophreniacs because with all that lack of experience of observation with nothing to correlate with?

>brainlets itt thinking the age at which they learn calculus means anything

Or the simple fact, that it need totally different layers of cognition(I mean memories and experiences and it's deducations and dedications) to be at peak performance of human brain.

>>9450001
>also brainlets thinking leaving dots aside to corelate later is punishable by making memory disfunctional

> Learning people how to cooperate
> Learning people what to cooperate
> Learning people being valuable to cooperation

There is word, you have to:
Extrapolate meaning of.
Have definition of.

What does extrapolate mean without meaning of definition?

>>9446524
lol same, I didn't know basic trigonometry in early 2016 and will be taking calc 3 this year, 25yo
dropped out of humanities

Have you ever heard of forced correlation?

When one wants to be right, he can create dataset. He can even invent a way of failure, to have it correct, by failing it's processing.

Most of the cognitive maps, that has been placed into mind of human that is on the 90% percentile to the left of graph existing just to demonstrate, that somebody can, was placed intentionally to not being able do observe a map.
>Does it say it is different in 95% percentile to the left?

When I say, that most of black people deserve to die, I don't really mean most of whites deserve to live.

Negation of every element is not negation of thing.

Implication is not correlation.

"Alice's" implication is not implication.

Yet, negation of Alice's implication can be right solution to negation of complex.

If you negate something twice, it doesn't makes it being itself, mostly.

How do you think, you use logic at all?

Do you really think, that learning to read and write is good at primary school, if it does render muscle memory out of one finished cycle of brain development being reading and writing?

Neoplasticity.

In the ways so that you simply know all the stuff you have to, have neurons for it and can be used to process different kind of information in matter of SECONDS.

Calc 1- 17
Calc 2- 19
Calc 3-21
Diff eq -21
Real analysis -21
Applied pdes- not taken yet
I had a couple of bad years where i put many things off ;_;

never taken calc and never will take calc

figured out wtf the hype about real analysis was at 23. this year

>>9446274

If you haven't finished Calculus by 8th grade then you're a brainlet

>>9446274
what are the best books to learn calculus?
>t.fag taking it next semester

>>9450151
Stewart - Early Transcendentals

>>9450156
Bump

>>9450156
thanks anon

>>9446274
Took cal 3 when I was 19, and failed it. The highest math I've passed is Lin Alg when I was 20 last year.

>>9446274
Multivariable calculus my senior year of HS

>>9449072
>calculus
>a major

>>9449084
what the hell are you doing that is interesting and doesn't require calculus?

>>9448834
what the heck thanks for wasting an hour of my time. It didn't say anything about newton being real

>>9449994
You'd think so, but no

>>9450151
Look at 3blue1browns youtube videos, they reallt help with the intuition.

>>9446274
>finished [a subject]
Brainletto.

Can anyone give some insight regarding the the pros and cons of learning infinitesimal calculus vs epsilon delta calculus first. I already took an epsilon delta calculus and was wondering if it would be worth reviewing calculus again but through an infinitesimal approach.

>>9446274
Started uni this year at 23. Will get calc 1 in the next semester. But since it's CS I'll probably get a watered down version.

I'll try studying some on my own during summer.

>>9446274
yellow

>>9449170
If you go by actual numbers, it is. Most of the population will have no need for calculus, I doubt even the most rabid mathfags will try to argue against this.

>>9446524
Started calculus I in august of last year, at 22, almost failed bc I didnt study or looked at my notes and to be fair I had forgotten alot about algebra and damn kids were supper snobs, final exam nailed it. Im supposed to start calc II next week and I just finished it a book from a teacher and watching Professor leonard (youtube ). Its a bummer I wont have the same teacher as I wanted to show him my progress. Ill ask a teacher for a calcul III book next week and keep moving. Linear Algebra seems to be a hot topic.
We all can do it lads.

>>9449898
Maybe he just wants to validate the idea that its never too late anon.

Calc 2 at 16

>>9446274
It actually only takes half a year to get up to cal 1.

Alg 1 and 2 in the summer. Pre-Cal in the fall. Cal 1 in the winter break in four weeks.

It's quite possible for any middle-school student to already take advance maths and physics within half a year.

>>9449898
What about the "plasticity" of the mind as it ages?

>>9446524
Same + 2

25 or 26

>>9446274
10 months before I was born. If you didnt at least do this then you are a brainlet

>>9448601
You mean a system designed to hold you back and on par with everyone else held you back? Crazy.

>>9446274
It doesn't fucking matter. Unless you're actually retarded (not likely) all that mattes is how hard you work once you get there.

>>9450001
Sorry for wanting to get as much learning as possible in. I want to get to as much math as I can before I graduate uni and if I’m taking calculus 1-4 then that’s gonna be tricky

>>9446274
I was 11.
t. 170 IQ

>>9456423
I don't care about the quantified IQ meme, but if average really is 100, could Erin get a 90? Honestly I don't know. It can't be 100.

>>9448834
are you an npc

>>9446274
american maths PhD, just finished the sequence and took qualifying exams.

Calc1, Calc2 - 18
Calc3, ODEs, Complex Anal. - 19
PDEs - 20

lmao was doing idempotent analysis by the age of 12, load of brainlets in here