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All the "science" I find online about psychedelics only talks about the benefits of taking them. There are some Ted Talk videos on YouTube but they only mention the benefits. All other YouTube videos about psychedelics are created by hippies and stoners, all spewing the same shit, pure pseudoscience.

What exactly is going on in the brain during a trip? It can't be all good. It just can't. I highly doubt rewiring your brain to the point of hallucinating and having out-of-this-world thoughts and feelings can be healthy without negative consequences.

Anyone have some real, hard science information about this?

BTW I do psilocybin mushrooms once or twice a year. They're a wonderful experience. I'm just tired of hearing about them only from new age "woo woo" stoners.

>> No.9430530

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep46421

>> No.9430533

>>9430520
lsd was discovered accidentally by a scientist.

>> No.9430539

>>9430520
>I'm just tired of hearing about them only from new age "woo woo" stoners.
honestly I dont see what science could tell you that would be of any importance. I mean, what exactly do you want to know here?

they're not damaging your body / brain beyond the risk of psychosis or becoming an obnoxious hippy.

as far as experiences go, I think "woo woo" stoners might actually a much better source of info than "science".

>> No.9430544

>>9430520
>I highly doubt rewiring your brain to the point of hallucinating and having out-of-this-world thoughts and feelings can be healthy without negative consequences.
look at hippies. those are the negative consequences you're talking about

>> No.9430555

>>9430520
>rewiring your brain
People who say this phrase should have their necks rewired to a tree.

>> No.9430597

>>9430530

Thank you, I'll check this out. Any more you might know of?

>>9430539
>honestly I dont see what science could tell you that would be of any importance.

Knowing exactly how harmful they are is a start. Are they as harmful to one's brain as getting wicked drunk? Or worse? How would it compare? What damage is being done?

>What exactly do you want to know here?

Mostly how harmful they are. Like I said, I only hear about how great they are. I find it hard to believe they cause zero harm.

>they're not damaging your body / brain beyond the risk of psychosis or becoming an obnoxious hippy.

Source?

>as far as experiences go, I think "woo woo" stoners might actually a much better source of info than "science".

Are you sure about this? I suppose while we're at it we should also ask woo-woo people about the healing properties of crystals and see what they say, eh?

>> No.9430828
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9430828

>>9430597
>unironically thinks these have bad effects
>doesnt realize simple biochemistry knowledge leads you to realize that it has no negative effects other than psychosis, which he will probably get from taking some prescribed medication anyways
>mfw

>> No.9430892

>>9430828
>it has no negative effects other than psychosis

Sauce for claim?

>> No.9431239

>>9430533
That's the case with many other drugs as well

>>9430597
Classical (ie. serotonergic) psychedelics are not harmful in the least and are in many ways beneficial. There is no LD50 (you can't overdose on them/take a lethal dose as far as we know), there are no common long term side-effects, and it doesn't adversely affect your body while you are taking them. While rare, there is a possibility for psychosis and mental illness to manifest itself after taking psychedelics in individuals who are genetically predisposed to mental illness. Also there is the rare condition of HPPD, which are essentially "flashback"-type experiences that some (usually heavy/high dose) users experience after the fact.

>>9430892
Just look at the scientific literature. In the 1960s psychedelic research produced most of what we know about them now. The most researched of the class by far is LSD. Recently (in the last 25 years, psychedelic research has experienced a resurgence and the media have reported on popular studies from researches at places such as John Hopkins and MAPS that reveal things pretty much everyone with a brain have known for decades like the fact that psilocybin and MDMA can be therapeutic and produce spiritual/mystical type experiences.

Topics like these and 'microdosing' have been very popular with normies and is helping to boost the image of psychedelic drugs with the general population.