/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9255159
Yep. I was a math major back and college and I agree. I think the way mathematics is taught in college is fucking terrible. I mean the higher courses. Frankly, and I know people here will disagree, they're taught too quickly and there are no overarching breadth discussions like you said, so it becomes much harder to follow.

I love studying math on my own with the right books and the Internet. Gained almost nothing at all from watching foreign professors glide through complex proofs one by one without explanation in the lectures.

I'm the complete opposite. I'll never feel like i have a shred of any real tangible grasp on a subject until I've done every permutation of practice problem.

>>9255159
>depth first searches

>>>/g/tfo

>>9255190

Shut the fuck up. I'm so tired of being disrespected on this goddamn website. All I wanted to do was post my opinion. MY OPINION. But no, you little bastards think it's "hilarious" to mock those with good opinions. My opinion. while not absolute, is definitely worth the respect to formulate an ACTUAL FUCKING RESPONSE AND NOT JUST A SHORT MEME OF A REPLY. I've been on this site for 6 months: 6 MONTHS and I have never felt this wronged. It boils me up that I could spend so much time thinking and putting effort into things while you shits sit around (probably jerking off to traps or whatever gay shit you like) and make fun of the intellectuals of this world. I've bored you? Good for fucking you. Literally no one cares that your little brain is to underdeveloped and rotted to comprehend my idea...MY GREAT GREAT IDEA. I could sit here all day whining, but I won't. I'm NOT a whiner. I'm a realist and an intellectual. I know when to call it quits and to leave the babybrains to themselves. I'm done with this goddamn site and you goddamn immature children. I have lived my life up until this point having to deal with memesters and idiots like you. I know how you work. I know that you all think you're "epik trolls" but you're not. You think you baited me? NAH. I've never taken any bait. This is my 100% real opinion divorced from anger. I'm calm, I'm serene. I LAUGH when people imply I'm intellectually low enough to take bait. I always choose to reply just to spite you. I won. I've always won. Losing is not in my skillset. So you're probably gonna reply "lol epik trolled" or "u mad bro" but once you've done that you've shown me I've won. I've tricked the trickster and conquered memery. I live everyday growing stronger to fight you plebs and low level trolls who are probably 11 (baby, you gotta be 18 to use 4chan). But whatever, I digress. It's just fucking annoying that I'm never taken serious on this site, goddamn.

>>9255195
>I've been on this site for 6 months

Lurk moar newfag.

>>9255195
Eh, seconded to a degree.

I guess it is a little funny (not haha) in the sense that if you just did the math (site ranking/visitors/content rotation) it would be easy to identify 4chan as one of the few places on earth where people of a high I.Q. (non-identified) share pure opinion without fear of being ousted like they would in the scientific/mathematical society.

If 4chan somehow realized that if we all actually wrote posts like this on the regular 'in our mind' and collectively chose to post them with frequency we'd soon have a proper hackathon.

Like, a huge gathering of people who are sick of others just saying 'lol fag' and actually would be fine with sitting down with a problem they could share and know would solve, well, a fuckton.

But we have to claim schizo, or even readers will think that 'I' posted above just so I could write this.

But 'you' are smart enough to realize that I'm just capitalizing on an opportunity.

Epsilon. Erdos.

LIke, 4chan is the living embodiment of the whole 'monkey typewriter shakespeare' thing.

Except out current generation's thing is, "Can A.I. just spring up out of the Internet doing it's own thing and not one company/man/person who created our next AGI God?"

#butwho #buthow #Mathematica

>>9255190
What does a depth first search have to do with the technology section over /sci/...? Depth first search is a fundamental CS concept which is a branch of math

>>9255205
I agree, I've posted about this before

Instead of shitposting we could be creating a legitimate mutual thinktank, but I guess it's mainly brainlets

>>9255210

>>9255211
Well, perhaps it is because 4chan tries to solve 'real-world' problems (a la the 4SP) when it should be trying to help 4chan only problems?

Like, bronyism or 2-d waifu. Surely if we threw 4chan that sort of a bone they'd be more willing to band together when they actually ACCOMPLISH something they can measure and identify as being the reason why?

Ya know, prac reinforces the theory/fundamentals.

Like what if 4chan made:
SUPER-DMT (chemistry) (lol drugs)
A.G.I. (lol 2d waifu orgy)
UBI (trolol bitcoin & cash by making all money irrelevant) {Hint: Taxation, Insurance, Lottery (like randomly a few people get 'extra capital' just for being good citizens, but only if they asked for it and put their hand into the ring).}

This is actually the shit 4chan could accomplish.

>>9255217
Like, 4chan is cancer.

4chan could CURE cancer.

Cancer is simply 'transcription miscommunication for reason X' on a cellular level.

As if there isn't enough comp, maths, chem, and bio-fags running around. Probably even reading this fucking thread.

Ya silent fuckers.

>>9255216
You're a fucking retard

Computer Science majors have nothing to do with the branch of math itself. It's perfectly legitimate and "depth first" vs "breadth first" is a perfectly mathematically rigorous way of describing what I was talking about in the OP

>>9255218
Anyone getting the message? Cancer = mono-celluar.

Non-communicative replication.

It means staying silent about shit you actually know better about, but you don't have the balls to speak up because... well, you're intelligent. An intelligent mind 'self-excludes' from a communicative set by only listening and not talking.

It's time for you fags (gender-neutral) to learn """you""" have a voice.

>>9255223
Anon please take your schizo meds that was a slew of loose associations that made no sense

>>9255257
Loose associations by whose standards?

By anonymous standards? Yours? Community x?

Are you trying to help me learn how to spk 4chan? Or ya just stating your opinion """brainle(t=0)""".

>>9255205
>>9255209
>>9255211
Fuck off and never come back. You're new in a very cancerous way, the kind that wants to change board culture to fit his own whims. Eat shit faggot.

>>9255272
*shrug* what whims? As in a fleeting fancy? Like, are you asking if I am a benign or malignant cancerous tumor?

Nobody's every actually asked my opinion or agenda thus far. I am content with whatever interpretation you want though. Just like real cancer I guess?!

Boo hoo, things aren't like they used to be! Thank god Trump is president! He'll... ???

>How is wanting the /sci/ board to be more mathematically pure by being a commutative place to converse? Or does 'this' need to be like every other board? Then what's the point of boards? The whole site may as well be /b/

>change board culture
I agree, we need more chemists and non-math/comp-sci niggaz up in here.

>>9255159
I completely agree with this.

>>9255159
This applies just as much for me in Chemistry and other sciences.

Math was traditionally very difficult to learn outside of academia, but the internet has changed that to some extent. If you're disciplined enough to learn without a formal class, then you're still going to need textbooks (and preferably a solution manual) to work from. Structured material was hard for me to find after taking basic calculus and linear algebra.

>>9255166
No one is going to disagree with that who gone to uni. Students dont really know jackshit about the course after they have passed even if they did extremely well, there is this tacit assumption in academia that you will use those tools consistently later in your education thereby cementing them. But of course that pretty much never happens unless the student goes out of their way to do so. Uni courses are closer to training than they are education now. Talk to any professor who has been teaching for 30+ years and they will commonly tell you that they cant deliver the syllabus they would have then because the students of today are retards re academic inflation.

Only a chapter? I don't think I've ever done a problem or example in a textbook without first reading the entire book. On the first pass I usually skip all proofs as well, just reading the general ideas and theorems, if something doesn't make sense just skip it until I realise it's actually very important for the following chapters or I start over with my more thorough read.

Great thing about this is while doing a thorough pass of some books, I'll also have some in first pass mode I can read when tired, usually in bed before going to sleep as light reading or on the toilet.

>>9257593
That's a really good idea actually. Just a light skim reading ~5% of the entire book, only the theorems basically, to get an idea of what's coming and the vocabulary if it's new. Thanks anon I will try this

>>9255166
I had a russian calc prof who would just call axes "the line" while there were lines drawn on the graph. so confusing.

>>9255159
Yeah, that's how I do it.

Is that Danny right there?

http://2occatl.net/splittingofthetimes.html

>>9260382
was that you that came by with your boyfriend that night when you recited your memorized line, "I like older guys because they can like... teach you stuff."

>>9255159
School: How study?
Me: Whatever senpai, just A* my shit up.

I enjoy studying in depth. At the undergrad level, I'm still aware of gaps even after learning something in depth. I have 0 problems relating topics though. If I didn't see connection between topics, it would probably bother me.