/sci/ - Science & Math

Bump. I'm going to also repost that sweet could deal with fructose/glucose/sugar shit and that the last one could be 4 because 4 = death in chinese culture and there's the valley of death

Swedish valleys didn't turn up anything to the best of my knowledge.

>>9205658
This was already discussed, it ties really well with the idea that 598184 is violet and F18984 is pink, so that it could be referencing the infamous "roses are red violets are blue" poem, but you need to add "silicon" to the mix and nothing seems to get out of it. Tbh, I think it's just a coincidence and that each line is independent of one another. The anagram hypothesis is the one which makes more sense right now.

also PO in Guaraní means 5

The seventeenth of the primes.
Prime numbers or prime ministers? 59

Its twin is twentynine.
Twin primes? -> 31

Po.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po_(river)

Let’s drive.
F1, Ferrari?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Via_Aemilia

Bye, Alfonsín.
Ricardo Raúl, 2009, 1989

Add seven triangular.
Triangular numbers? (0?) 1 3 6 10 15 21 28 -> (84 or 56)?

Sweet.
sugar, honey, wine, 16

It named the Valley.
death 4, silicon 14, Connection to Po? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po_Valley))

>>9205684
>Po.
I wouldn't exclude Polonium (84) yet.

>>9205689
petaoctect too, since we're doing numbers

>>9205689
or the teletubby

Regarding triangular, has anyone considered triangulation? With GPS's or otherwise

Twin peaks episode 29 is about Life and Death; might pair with the death of Alfonsín and Valley of Death

Following the chemical theme, the formula for sugar is C12 H22 O11 and Glucose is C6 H12 6

There is a band named "Sweet Valley"

What can be done with the numbers?
59 31 84 18/16/F1 89/09 21/84 16 14/4

> Adding/Multiplying/Dividing all of them together
> Converting them into alphabet letters (A=1)
> Other ideas?

GPS coordinates?

Well, the last one would be 04...
ISn't there something like a Jefferson grid? Where every letter is assigned a position on a grid and replaced by that? It's simple, but I don't think it's been used yet

Idk if this can help but Po is the longest italian river, it named a valley called Valle Po, it’s sweet water and it ends in a delta

I think our best leads are Italian Chemists, Valleys, and the Periodic Table.

anyone here living in södermalm, stockholm?

Ah yeah i just read and someone already brought the po up rip

Italian 17th PM is Francesco Crispi

Did Alfonsín have any relation with Italy?

TWENTYNINE PALMS (NO SPACE) OS A PLACE IN SAN BERNARDONO COUNTY, CA

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentynine_Palms,_California

>>9205772
It's also known as the City of Mutals

>>9205775
Murals

what about the pink and blue party hat image

>>9205682
Glucose is bread, silicon is boobs?

mfw been across five threads for this damn website.

>>9205791
41 is gay, and we're all noobs

>>9205796
/thread

>>9205794
do you have a face?

The company who made this is based in Stockholm. Coordinates around 59.33258 18.0649. Look familiar? I'm guessing these are coordinates for some place in Stockholm.. perhaps they want us on a real life hunt at some coordinates, where google street view, eniro and other service's can't take us?

59 - prime no 17
XX - 31 (identical twin), 29 (twin prime), 30/33 (twins follow eachother, right?)
84 - polonium (or group no 14)
-----
18 - driving age in sweden
XX - alfonsin sat six (6/06) years in office, died in 2009, left office 1989 - or age 82
28 - seventh triagonal number (or 84 if added - not stockholm) or 64 if centered triangular number - added = 10, or 2 for binary conversion.


XX - sweet 16? sweet number 9? lead (82)? beryllium (4?)? Or capital letter S = 19th letter. See next line
XX - silicon 14? there's also a place named Dalen in stockholm, with capital D. And a place called Mälaren valley. or valley of death, 4 - chinese for death? 14 chinese "must die".

interesting locations:
59.3114,18.0910 - vitabergparken - a mountain of quartz..or Quartzite. it also houses pionen, where the isp bahnhof is located (wikileaks etc). there's also a church on the site. there used to be a windmill for grinding flour, named bengt bagares qvarn. the family was killed during witch hunts in 1670ies.
the park is located in södermalm district of sthlm, which is also the area where veloxia have their office.

something funny i found while trying different numbers - 59.3214,16.28984 - looks like a penis in the field, for all you jerks.

59.3114,18.0910
59.3114,18.0964
59.3114,18.0928
59.3114,18.092

perhaps go look for a hint in a tree, a padlock with the cipher 1614 or something? :D

>>9205822
perhaps the numbers should be written out since the question has all numbers written out

>>9205822
I'm a little skeptical this online ARG would all of a sudden switch to real world hunt

>>9205829
well, they know the hive mind is onto the answer, so why not? :D

.po is a file name extension, in GNU

>>9205822
Now I think this game is never gonna be completed. Are any swedes willing to follow this lead?

valley of kings possibly, the tombs there named it

Can the creators clarify if the puzzle involve real world hunt?

>>9205840
I think it's too far fetched.
We should focus on what we already have and what we can do with it.

>>9205846
Yeah, I'd say we stick to the elements proposal, and keep checking for combinations with:

59-31-84-18-89-28-16-14

Pr-Ga-Po-Ar-Ac-Ni-S-Sl

AAACGILNOPPRRS

How about this as a method:

Numbers small than 26, map to a letter between A and Z. Numbers greater than 26, split into two digits and map to letters between A and Z. Rearrange anagram.

I tried:

59 - 5 9 - e i
31 - 3 1 - c a
84 - 8 4 - h d
18 - 18 - r
89 - 89 - h i
28 - 2 8 - b h
16 - 16 - p
14 - 14 - n

eicahdrhibhpn
but none of the anagrams from https://wordsmith.org/anagram/index.html made sense

>>9205865
had herb chip in

>>9205865
What about subtracting 26 from all numbers larger than 26 until you get a number under 26?
59 > 33 > 7 > G

GEFRKBPN

Don’t think this is very useful either

>>9205879
Too many consonants, I don't anything will come out of it.

for those who are interested, here's the past answers and their explanations from the old threads. I have my suspicions over the explanation for 29 - descartes; the person who solved it wasn't very clear

https://pastebin.com/dSZV9eUq

>>9205869
if 28 was 84 then that's:

had herd chip in

herd = 4chan? but seems maybe farfetched

this fucking game is shit. needs a format or something standardized like how jeopardy does

>>9205917
this game is like life

I don't get it

Alfonsin died in a car, right? Since he didn't buckle?
Could that have anything to do with "Let's Drive"?

Wait, wrong Alfonso.

>>9205649
Good to see /sci/ doing something useful for once.

creator please

Why assume "Bye, Alfonsin" refers to the date? It could be Buenos Aires, Argentina itself, or maybe a family member.

Maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%ADa_Lorenza_Barreneche

This has seriously slowed down... People gone? Or just thinking?

The answer to this question must cause the immediate death of whoever finds it.

Of the 10 groups of elements 7 are represented.
this leaves
Alkali Metals
Alkaline Earth
and
Noble Gas
unspoken for.....

possibly meaningful that they are spread among the groups?
except for Si, Po - Semimetals

Can someone verify this for me?
Raúl Alfosin the president of argentina is not mentioned once in the wiki page of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Argentina
Was he actually newsworthy to warrant a swedish person to know about him?

>>9206180
He's directly mentioned in the clue. He's obviously notable

what'd really be ass is if he was using the numbers from the elements (which i think is generally accepted as probably the best theory atm) to reference his own stupid game

>>9206212
I shouldn't have said notable. I mean he obviously either knows of him, or googled something that lead to him when making the clues

>>9205897
29: You have to substitute every 1 with a 0 and the other way around. Then just do a Ascii conversion and done.

Bump
The thread is dying

Bump
C'mon /sci/, don't let him beat ya.

How long would it take a computer to just try every combination of letters and numbers for this one?

Alfonsin is either a red herring or the one thing that ties this all together.

Maybe look at the Death Valley angle? Or see where Po (the element) is mined?

We figured out Ted Bundy, we can figure out this.

>> 9206307 depends on how long it is & what kind of characters are involved, but it shouldn't take TOO long. Give it the basic alphabet, 0-9, and accented letters, and that should be it. We haven't had punctuation in any of the others, and we don't have to deal with hangoul or any finiky language.

>>9206311
>Alfonsin is either a red herring or the one thing that ties this all together.
The whole hint is a red herring and the answer
a. Doesn’t exist
b. Is a completely random word or phrase
Or c. Needs to be found with a secret message in all the previous hints

>>9206321_# That's probably the case, but I can't help but hope.
It also kinda feels like we just gave up. I mean, we figured out frequencies and the coordinates to Vatican City, but after a couple hours of number/letter flipping, the brainstorming stopped.

I'm not going to pretend to be clever enough to figure it out, but I'm throwing out stupid conjecture because at least then there's something.

d. is 5 levels deep and the permutations involve unknown data so the answer might as well not exist until the fucking cunt of a creator gives a clue

>>9206327
Welp, let's sleep until he gives us something

the problem is, if this gets solved, then there's just another puzzle

it's a cheap shot to extend your never completed game by one turn when you lose

And given that the guy added another question just so he could say that nobody had completed it, that ain't too likely.

Night.

>>9206307

If we knew it was, say, a four digit number, this would be right up my alley.

Really though since it could be just about anything, I'm certain any capable brute force bot would just about DoS the server before finding anything.

>>9205649

So apparently they predicted shortcuts..

>>9205725
There is probably a clubhouse somwhere named the same way
but i dont think minor things like that are relevant

>>9206096
it didnt kill him.
he was simply ejected out the window.
hospitalized for 39 days
but survived
would be funny if bye alfonsin refers to him being ejected from a car

So creator, good job... everybody is fucked up. Maybe that was your goal?!

Anbody still here?

nope

go fuck yourself

but we cant let him win

>>9206472
but he only wins so long as you define losing as not being able solve any riddle past #40

^^ yeppppp fuck this fucking creator. until 41 the riddles were pushing the limits of how fucking retarded a riddle can be but this one is fuckign far beyond the limits of 4chans weaponized autism

Some cunt solved it...?

>>9206521
hahaha

So we have 16 digits. If we assume that the first 12 are coordinates. it leaves the last 4. They can be either year, or date, or hour, or any other bullshit.

>>9206521
It still shows the highscore as 40

>>9205649
>Go fuck yourself
Lol.

>>9206521
No cunts solved it

>>9206547
Well, the co-ordinates point to an island just outside of Stockholm. Considering the nationality of the creator, that can't be a coincidence, right?

https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/59%C2%B019'06.2%22N+18%C2%B053'34.1%22E/@59.4369476,19.0953858,9.25z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d59.3184!4d18.8928

After that there's just the 16 14. Maybe it's a year? Did anything interesting happen in the Baltic just outside of Stockholm in 1614?

>>9206596

>History of Sweden - Timeline
>1614
>City of Kristianstad founded

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Swedish_history

>>9206596
or perhaps they're just screwing with us. but it looks like an interesting location, with the quartz mountain housing bahnhof and everything, being just a few minutes away from their office

>>9206547
What if the first 4 are a year and last 12 coordinates?

Maybe they're just fucking with us and the answer might not even be directly related to the riddle itself.

in 1614 there was an issue of the Martin Luther's Bible in Low German which is spoken in the North and Baltic sea areas.

>>9206617
In that case the co-ordinates are in the middle of the Arctic Ocean

https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/84%C2%B011'20.0%22N+28%C2%B009'41.0%22E/@66.4533297,42.590043,3z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d84.1889!4d28.1614

and the first 4 numbers are 59 31, which is pretty damn obtuse for anything time-based. 59 31 doesn't correspond to any reasonable date, and 5931 requires pretty obtuse and ambiguous rearrangement to turn into any sensible year: One of 1359, 1395, 1539, 1593, 1935, or 1953. As far as I can tell, nothing of historical significance happened in the Arctic on any of those specific years. A couple of events come close (a monastery in the far north of Russia, expeditions looking for the Northwest Passage, submarine exploration), but nothing in the specific years listed.

In conclusion, I think there's a stronger case for it being co-ordinates and digits than vice versa.

Back to the "roses are red" idea. Silicon valley comic con posted on facebook "roses are red, violets are blue, Steven Yuen is coming and so should you.

And Robert Kirkman and Scott Gimple mentioned to TV guide that they would like to see the show go to sweden.

Walking Dead reference maybe? New season starts soon.

>>9206709
remember coordinates are in many shapes and forms, and use various datums for putting a grid over the globe. the most use is wgs84.

i've assumed coordinates in decimals, but it could also be degrees minutes seconds (for this, minute and seconds must be <60 each), or in utm and many others.

>>9206718
Mercedes Mason is a swedish actress on the walking dead.

my serbian flatmate isnt able to go pass level 6 lol

>>9206596
one anon needs to go there and see if there is a hint

>>9206742
thats embarrassing desu

What's the current reasoning behind the digits for "Let's Drive" and what are most people considering them as?

>>9206862
legal driving age, in sweden thats 18.

N 59.3184 E 18.9117

Tried all of the following locations based on the most likely sets of numbers:

59.318418, 31.841614
59.318418, 31.846814
59.318418, 09.841614
59.318418, 09.846814
59.318418, 89.841614
59.318418, 89.846814
59.318416, 31.841614
59.318416, 31.846814
59.318416, 09.841614
59.318416, 09.846814
59.318416, 89.841614
59.318416, 89.846814
59.928418, 31.841614
59.928418, 31.846814
59.928418, 09.841614
59.928418, 09.846814
59.928418, 89.841614
59.928418, 89.846814
59.928416, 31.841614
59.928416, 31.846814
59.928416, 09.841614
59.928416, 09.846814
59.928416, 89.841614
59.928416, 89.846814
59.628418, 31.841614
59.628418, 31.846814
59.628418, 09.841614
59.628418, 09.846814
59.628418, 89.841614
59.628418, 89.846814
59.628416, 31.841614
59.628416, 31.846814
59.628416, 09.841614
59.628416, 09.846814
59.628416, 89.841614
59.628416, 89.846814
59.318418, 31.281614
59.318418, 31.286814
59.318418, 09.281614
59.318418, 09.286814
59.318418, 89.281614
59.318418, 89.286814
59.318416, 31.281614
59.318416, 31.286814
59.318416, 09.281614
59.318416, 09.286814
59.318416, 89.281614
59.318416, 89.286814
59.928418, 31.281614
59.928418, 31.286814
59.928418, 09.281614
59.928418, 09.286814
59.928418, 89.281614
59.928418, 89.286814
59.928416, 31.281614
59.928416, 31.286814
59.928416, 09.281614
59.928416, 09.286814
59.928416, 89.281614
59.928416, 89.286814
59.628418, 31.281614
59.628418, 31.286814
59.628418, 09.281614
59.628418, 09.286814
59.628418, 89.281614
59.628418, 89.286814
59.628416, 31.281614
59.628416, 31.286814
59.628416, 09.281614
59.628416, 09.286814
59.628416, 89.281614
59.628416, 89.286814

None of them show anything interesting.

Well the Coordinates of Veloxia.are:

59.3094 and 18.0629

>>9206742
tell him he's glup kao kurac

30 is in between 29 an 31
94 is Plutonium Pu instead Po (84)
06 is C (Carbon)
29 is Cu (Copper)

>>9206596
The city of Kristianstad was founded in 1614
Also the births of Ebba Stenbock, Gustaf Otto Stenbock and Gustav Evertsson Horn

>>9207091
But you already tried all of those, didn't you?

hey, creator - a hint please

>>9207094
...i couldn't be bothered going through the first 40 questions again so i'm banking on other people to try things...

>>9207100
truth is, he's jerking off on the fact we dont get it - not nice!!!!!!!!!

I thought it would be a good idea to think into a completely different direction than those chemical elements, as they obviously don't bring us further down the rabbit hole…

IMHO the quotes could be related to episodes of a TV series. I thought about X-Files:

The seventeenth of the primes.
17th episode of season 1 is E.B.E. (1x17)

Its twin is twentynine.
The 29th episode is a two-part episode with the 30th: Ascension (2x30)

Po.
Could be D.P.O. (3x3)

Let’s drive.
Drive (6x2)

Bye, Alfonsín.
Phew… this is weak: Alfonsín quit in 1989, 89th episode is Unrequited (4x16)

Add seven triangular.
Triangle is 6x3, seven more is Tithonus (6x10)

Sweet.
Could be Home for "Home sweet home" (4x2)

It named the Valley.
Could be Monument Valley, where the Anasazi lived, which leads us to Anasazi (2x25)

I have tried multiplying these numbers (1x17 + 2x30 + ...) which leads me to 280. This is not the answer, as well as the names of the characters, actors, or famous quotes.

Maybe X-Files is completely wrong, but I just wanted to share my idea that it may be something completely different where we have to search.

>>9207105
quite sure, answer isnt related to riddle at all

>>9207102
what should we try?

>>9207107
PS: If we add up all the season and all the episode numbers, we get S28 E105 which is in the middle of the Indian Ocean…

We need more brainlets!

i don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but John Oates released a single caled Let's Drive
Released: 2013-08-13 (that's the order they write dates in sweden)
the track is 4:14 long
don't know if anyone can make anything of that but i thought i'd put it out there

>>9207107
quite interesting...

>>9207109
i don't know i guess just anything you can extract from this post
>>9207091

I was trying to go with a death theme not sure if it helps.

17th prime minister is dead.

Episode 29 of Twin Peaks is Beyond Life and Death

Meng Po- Meng Po serves in Diyu, the Chinese realm of the dead, in the 10th court. It is her task to ensure that souls who are ready to be reincarnated do not remember their previous life or their time in hell.

Not sure about Let's Drive

Alfonsin is dead

not sure about the seven trangular

Sweet release refers to death

Death valley.

May be just a load of shit but if it helps it's there.

Could "it named the valley" link to death valley where 49ers died

>sweet death
süßer tod

>>9207131
is that a painting? of whom?

>>9207131
SEELE from Evangelion?
Why?

there's just so many different parts to this question it's getting ridiculous

>>9207149
we've probably got most if not all of the constituent parts somewhere in this thread and just not matched them up properly yet

maybe we have to work with the phrase "Go fuck yourself"

so whats wrong with you all? no ideas left?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>9207172
how about this stupid theory.

>Creator makes super hard "Quiz"
>Giggles & thinks it's unbeatable
>Gets beaten
>Gets pissed off
>Creates one last riddle
>Makes answer unrelated to riddle to waste peoples time & maintain claim that game is unbeatable
>Profit.

I've already written it off as BS

>>9207172
Instead of insulting people why u no bring your own creative idea?

>>9207172
pretty much

>>9207176
But Why?

>>9207176
i fear youre right

>>9207176
i think it'll have some bs answer that the creator could work backwards to explain if he needed to but is way too obscure to actually get

>>9207176
Although this would be sad, I fear so, too. If I look what /sci/ has achieved for the first 40 levels, and in what time, it's strange that we are now working on 41 for > 24 hours now.

Maybe hurt ego… :-/

Fun fact though, his backend is the php framework laravel if anyone knows of a way to get into the db, then we would have all the answers :)

>>9207176
anyone up for some trial and error?

>>9207192
Haha +1

>>9207194
Isn't that what we're doing effectively for hours now?

>>9207176
Maybe it's some BS like "go fuck yourself" in swedish.... :(

>>9207203
What is that in Swedish ;-)?

>>9207192
lets go and hack that!

>>9207205
gå knulla dig själv

But maybe we should use swedish characters, because he was so confident about the bruteforcing-thing

>>9207218
Who is "he"?

Alt + 134 = å
Alt + 143 = Å
Alt + 132 = ä
Alt + 142 = Ä
Alt + 148 = ö
Alt + 153 = Ö
Alt + 130 = é
Alt + 138 = è

>>9207220
he is /NCG ... maybe
>>9205436

>>9207218
>he was so confident about the bruteforcing-thing
source? what are you refering to?

This interestingly ties back to a lot of stuff in a weird way https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Peaks_(San_Francisco)

>>9207176
>2
Does BS mean Backspace? :-)

>>9207229
How? Where's the relation?

>>9207228
Look here
>>9207223

>>9207238
what the post of him saying good luck?
i didn't read anything about bruteforcng into that

>>9207246
>0
good luck on dictionary-attack...
dictionary is (a) (itelligent) form of bruteforce

I don't think that the creator is THAT intelligent ;-)

- Create a viral game.
- Gain lots of attraction.

But then:

- Website is only available in Swedish, not in English.
- Fucks of its new-born audience with lvl 41.

Dafuq?

The we should ignore him.... and solve a better riddle:
9766=3
1234=1
9177=1
8868=7
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ = ?

>>9207264
This is simple, I guess: 7

(You have to count the closed areas within the digits and chars)

>>9205649
So the game makers didnt know how to make a hard question, so they made 8 questions instead. nice.

>>9207268
Yes you'right ... almost ... correct is 8!
But if you can solve this... why we can't beat 42?
Maybe we should excercise more :)

>>9207249
Looking at it he's got a simple thing in place to avoid 'spam on the server'. Honestly idc anymore.

>>9207284
I've overlooked one, I guess ;-)
Why beat 42? It should be 41, shouldn't it?

>>9207288
>I've overlooked one, I guess ;-)
I've overlooked one, I guess ;-)

>>9207291
Is this riddle an "official" hint, or is it unrelated?

>>9207294
Well, if i was the "creator" i would add /NCG

>>9207295
Okay, what a pity :-(

You're all faggots /NCG

>>9207285
Apparently /NCG does not care anymore as well ;-)

>>9207131
IT AAALL RETURNS TO NOTHING

and /NCG doesnt want the game to be completed at all

Maybe we don't see the solution b'cause we don't see what's in front of our eyes.

Numbers->nitrhwok->ThinkRow->???

>>9207327
How do you get from the numbers to nitrhwok?

does P=NP?

>>9207332
i count the characters i the "chan-list"

>>9207338
abcdefggifhhrkmoprstuvvgvrwwgiicr9ks4svipcmhmlgbty3acoadvanaspbantbizcglckcodiyfafitgdhchisintjplitmlpmunnewsoutpopolqstscisocsptgtoytrvtvvpwsgwsrxEdit

are you rolling your face on the key board?!

>The valley received its English name in 1849 during the California Gold Rush. It was called Death Valley by prospectors

maybe relevant?
if we're still using the elements theme it could be gold instead of silicon

>>9207344
those are all of the boards

>>9207344
No it's the source of nitrhwok

lmao /sci/ truly is the brainlets board

>>9207352
SO FUCKEN U SOLVE IT THEN

>>9207352
yeah i bet /a/ would have this solved in minutes

>>9207345
Thanks ... no we get "nitrhwok" -> "Horny Wit"
bravo!

>>9207361
"nitrhwoy" obviously

>>9207361
i wasn't talking to you and i think you're thinking in the wrong direction

Combinations of possible elements
PrGaPoArFNiSSi
PrGaPoArFTsSSi
PrGaPoArFRbSSi
PrGaPoArAcNiSSi
PrGaPoArAcTsSSi
PrGaPoArAcRbSSi
PrGaPoArFNiSSi
PrGaPoArFTsSSi
PrGaPoArFRbSSi
PrGaPoArAcNiSSi
PrGaPoArAcTsSSi
PrGaPoArAcRbSSi
PrGaPoArFNiSAu
PrGaPoArFTsSAu
PrGaPoArFRbSAu
PrGaPoArAcNiSAu
PrGaPoArAcTsSAu
PrGaPoArAcRbSAu
PrGaPoArFNiSAu
PrGaPoArFTsSAu
PrGaPoArFRbSAu
PrGaPoArAcNiSAu
PrGaPoArAcTsSAu
PrGaPoArAcRbSAu

>>9207373
Well have any worked? (!)

>>9207376
don't testet... i don't think they are solutions. step one of... many

anyone thought of the shape of the riddle? besides that diode-thing...

>>9207385
probably doesn't help but no. of words in each line goes 5,4,1,2,2,3,1,4
and no. of letters goes 25,19,2,9,11,18,5,16

Po also has a different meaning:

"A large painted cane shield from China called a 'Po'. Supposedly used by the Tiger soldiers who were elite 'shock' troops used to terrify the enemy during wars of the 19th century."

http://www.ashokaarts.com/shop/antique-chinese-tiger-shield-po-made-from-cane

I feel like "17th prime" refers to a prime minister, and I feel like "his twin is 29" refers to a literal twin.

There was a prime minister of "Po"land who's twin brother was also president.

That could be a lead.

>>9207413
We've already looked a bit in that way, but we haven't find anything relevant, so...
If you do, say it.

>>9207413
Jarosław Kaczyński was the 13th prime minister of Poland, his twin Lech Kaczyński was the 4th president of Poland. 13+4 hmm still a little obscure and why the "29"

>>9207413
Idiot. This is my theory

feburary 29 is the leap day

>>9207430
feburary 28 is the 59th day of the year
59 is the seventeenth prime

could feburary 28 and feburary 29 be illegitimate twins of the gregorian-chinese shitstorm?

>>9207208
Is that actual Swedish or google translate Swedish?

Guys I think I did it

>>9207564
There's no fucking way

>>9207564
omg it works

>>9207564
Does not work
>>9207569
>>9207570

>>9207577
works for me

>>9207584
fuck u

>>9207564
>>9207570
Fuck off.

>>9207591
>>9207577
>>9207590
Maybe you need to enter it at the right time idk

>>9207603
pff, this is where it really gets hard. there is not even a question.

the highscore didn't change yet, since it's manual, and it's nighttime in sweeden right now

>>9207603

I guess the nevercompletedgame will stay never completed then...

>>9207629
>never completed
but it was completed once

>>9207629
*currentlynotcompletedgame

>>9207192
did anyone try DROP TABLE NCG_Answers; yet?

What if its a different Alfonsin?

has anyone noticed the words form a shape?
kinda like a diode symbol.

>>9207735
Has anyone thought to re-arrange them by increasing/decreasing size?

There's just too much ambiguity and possibilities to solve imo. There's no way we can try every possible permutation and combination of even our best guesses just to work out a code that we still won't know what to do with.

Maybe, but as long as whatever brute force bot I assume someone's set up hasn't figured it out yet, we might as well keep trying.

We've looked a lot at the dates Alfonsín died & left office, but maybe we should check out the month/year/date he got in that car crash. We was in the hospital for 39 days, which is kinda close to 29, and "let's drive" might refer to who he drove with.

>>9207739
The seventeenth of the primes.
Its twin is twentynine.
Add seven triangular.
It named the Valley.
Bye, Alfonsín.
Let’s drive.
Sweet.
Po.

>>9207786
Somehow seems to make more sense this way. Like a letter

>>9207735
We discussed this in the last thread and we went really off-track with this approach.

This looks related:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po_%28lateral_thinking%29

>>9205772
From the Lily on the Beach album by Tangerine Dream mentioned by the Wikipedia page. Look what comes after twenty nine palms. Connection to the valley stuff?

its TWIN is TWentynINe

In California, the Valley generally refers to San Fernando Valley

san fernando valley og kush

Some thoughts:

>I tried plotting out some of the elements to see if there was some sort of picture. There's not much to go by even if you fold it in half.
>We could try looking into the history of each element? Some anagram of the first letter of the first/last names of those who discovered them?
>I included 82 since it's the age Alfonsin died at.
>I also used 56 as the sum of the first 7 triangular numbers including 0.
>If you exclude the 0th triangular and start from the 1st, the first seven sum to 84 and 84 could be repeating itself twice assuming you interpret "Po" as Polonium and use the atomic number. Perhaps this could map to a word?
>89 and 9 could also work for Alfonsin.

>>9207786
hey I found something:

59 The seventeenth of the primes.
31 Its twin is twentynine.
28 Add seven triangular.

31 + 28 = 59

What else is the "add" for?

>its twin is twentynine

>twentynine palms is in joshua tree desert
>hidden valley is in joshua tree desert

>it named the valley

some other nearby valleys
>yucca valley
>lucerne valley
>Victor Valley
>Johnson Valley
>San Bernardino Valley
>san fernando valley
there's lots of valleys in california

>there is a graffiti artist in california named prime

seventeenth prime ministers of canada and australia, respectively
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Turner
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Holt

>tfw this puzzle has to be a ruse

wait the highscore just went up

try reordering the sentences, I like:

# 31 + 28 = 59
Its twin is twentynine.
Add seven triangular.
The seventeenth of the primes.

# Elements
Po.
It named the Valley.

# teenagers
Sweet.
Let’s drive.

# Sign-off
Bye, Alfonsín.

Maybe that order of the 8 numbers works.

>>9207629
Fuck off Raj, adding levels is cheating faggot

>PO IS THE NAME OF THE MAIN CHARACTER IN KUNG FU PANDA
>KUNG FU PANDA TAKES PLACE IN THE VALLEY OF PEACE

>>9205649
seventeenth of primes: 59
twin is twenty-nine: 10th prime is 29
Po: P = 16, O = 15; could also be a hint to count downwards?; Hexadecimal of Po = 506f; dunno really
Let' drive: roads, crossroads, might indicate multiplication symbol (looks like cross-roads): X
Alfonsin may be reffering to letters to remove, or values to subtract, not sure.

>>9208047
Maybe something like Let's drive is "+" (for cross-roads) and Sweet is "=" (there is a sweetener named Equal)

# 31 + 28 = 59
Its twin is twentynine.
Let's drive.
Add seven triangular.
Sweet.
The seventeenth of the primes.

what if not valley

..

but canyon

:o

>>9208161
Pocanyon?

/NCG have we even got close?

>>9208034
Is there some 17th (Person...) in Kung-Fu Panda?

>>9208236
If you look at the cast on imdb the 17th person is Smitten Bunny played by Tanya Haden

>>9208178
I am fukking close but i know you guys are way off

>>9208287
>I am fukking close
what have you got then?

>>9208293
If I share then I wont be able to collect the fame first.
But Ill give you a hint about why you are able to find so many patterns in this shit.
>you are bound to find interesting patterns if the object you study is random

>>9208287
Well you are in Tideliusgatan 54
118 69 Stockholm...?

Or we search in wrong directions?

>>9208306
come on man this is a team effort
also, how do you know for sure that you're close and we're not?

>>9208306
Let's assume urright...
Then the patterns we study are random bcause of randomness of the sentences? oder should we look in randomness?

>>9208312
>>9208320
>>9208327
ah what the heck.
The first 6 sentences translate to coordinates which precisely pinpoint a landmark.
I am certain this is correct because if you google the landmark you see that there recently have been developments concerning it last month.
I am not sure what to do with the last two. but perhaps once my friend has reached the location it will become clear

>>9208306
Famewhore :(

Ersta Kyrka?

>>9208350
>The first 6 sentences translate to coordinates
we already did this a while ago. which numbers did we get wrong?

>>9208350
>I am not sure what to do with the last two
date? year? seems pretty straight forward

>The seventeenth of the primes
59
>Its twin is twentynine
31
>Po.
last kungfu panda came out in 2016
16

>Let’s drive.
18 (age in sweden)
>Bye, Alfonsín.
09 died
>Add seven triangular.
1+3+6+10+15+21+28 = 84

59.3116, 18.0984
This precicely pinpoints the spårvägsmuseet
interestingly enough. this museum has closed last month and wont be open for 2 years

>>9208389
>last kungfu panda came out in 2016
lol

Geofencing with: 5931XXXX and 16-18XXXXXX

Geofencing with 59.31XXXX and 18.XXXXXX

Anyone Geofence-Suggestions?

>>9208389
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A5rv%C3%A4gsmuseet

>>9208402
>>9208389
>The museum will close to the public in September 2017 and will open again in 2019 in new premises in Hjorthagen

>>9208404
17..19 ... twins like 29..31

>>9208405
coincidence

Geofence 59.31... and 18.09...

Since the guys seem to be from Stockholm coordinates to a place in Stockholm where we are going to find the next hint / solution is quite probable. Any Stockholmer here or somebody living close to it?

>>9208413
I have a friend who is currently doing a minor in stockholm.
I'm trying to persuade him

Well...

>>9208419
Filip Clavin? could you go plz

>>9208418
I really doubt it's that deep. He probably put a random answer to make more time for creating new questions.

It's so stupid. I had a dream about this game lol. We were on question 43, and I solved it by doing something completely random in Dota 2. It was by hitting both starfalls with Mirana on Luna.

>>9208426
big fat tetris effect right there

>>9208418
it'd be some next level bullshit if he expected us to go sweden to be able to do it

>>9208426
You'r'right we should play Dota2 to solve this!

>>9208431
when Treant kills Timber it will all come full circle.

Sparvagsmuseet is good and all
But lets not forget we still have not used
>sweet
>it named the vally

>>9208448
damn, never saw that pepe before. pretty rare

Other direction...
from 1. and 2. we get 59 and 31... RSA-primes -> N = 1829
form 3. and 4. we get Po(Italy) and drive (Ferrari) -> 1939
from 5. and 6. we get....

>>9208454
I've been posting for quite a while now

think this is worth anything?

>>9208474
no.

>>9208474
why not?

>>9208474
mapping it to the periodic table?

>>9208482
do you believe they changed the windows of the museum? lol

>>9208488
9/10 on /sci/ would do... why not?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>9208484
periodic table gave us nothing but a headache

waht if RSA is the right direction?

>>9208484
let me know when you find a periodic table w 14 periods and 32 groups

We need more brainstormers

>>9205649
putting 8 questions into 1 is hard enough, but making 2 of those questions basically completely useless (sweet and let's drive) renders this question impossible without further hints. Uncreative and stupid. I give this question 0/10.

>>9208509
try it if it works then you win.
be kind enough to share your findings

>>9208397
>>9208400
>>9208401
what are you doing care to elaborate?

ok... i'm out...
28 hours on this...
i hate you now! @Creator!

It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Rees

Anagram for the last letter of each sentence, don't think it's anything though, at work so can't really do research

>>9208571
they wont answer my question about weither we have to visit a physical location

>>9208571
I am ABSOLUTELY convinced they posted in the thread giving out some answers. Like the Bible video one. If it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have finished it as fast.

Someone should order 41 pizzas for them
those fuckers

heyyo maybe the first intermediate step is to get a 16 digit long string. that can be arranged in a 4-by-4 square. i am sure noone has tried that.

5131
1618
0928
1614

now what?

>>9208586
ment

5131
1618
0984
1614

>>9208591
Why 51 instead of 59, I've only started so not sure on the questions meta

Did anybody try "Go fuck yourself"?

>>9208600
gosh, silly mistake.
its supposed to be 59

Valley clue could be Death Valley like other anons have said but it could have more to do with the tarot card Death-13

>>9208612
of course
>>9208591
when i see a square like that i start thinking matrices personally, but i'm not sure what you could do with it. determinant maybe?

>>9208664
determinant is -600
don't know how that helps

>>9208612
doesnt work in swedish either

>>9208612
multiple times ;)

Are we still on 41?

>>9208714
jep

>>9208287

Where are you now?

i live in central Stockholm and can go look up coordinates if you want me to

Well, let's move over to my game...
>> 9208590

In contrast to /NCG you'll get hint if you cry!

>>9208751
what's your game?

>>9208754
sry
>>9208590

>>9208591
Did you try drawing something with that?

Come on solve this brainlets!

http://clueless.tathva.org/

Should we start a new thread?

>>9208784
I don't use zuckerbook

I think the matrix thing is a rabbit hole we shouldn't go down

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%5B59,31%5D%5B16,18%5D%5B09,84%5D%5B16,14%5D

>>9208795
can't see much to take from that, unless you think the shape, or the coordinates (25, 36.75) are relevant

>twentynine
Is there a reason why there is no space between twenty and nine? I think the number of words in each line may matter.

>The seventeenth of the primes
59
>Its twin is twentynine
31
>Po.
last kungfu panda came out in 2016
16

>Let’s drive.
18 (age in sweden)
>Bye, Alfonsín.
09 died
>Add seven triangular.
1+3+6+10+15+21+28 = 84

59.3116, 18.0984
This precicely pinpoints the spårvägsmuseet
interestingly enough. this museum has closed last month and wont be open for 2 years

>>9208875
The sparvagsmuseet is located close by Veloxia
The guys at veloxia must be aware that sparvagsmuseet closed recently and included it their question.

What do we do with
>sweet
>it named the valley

>>9208875
it's gotta be this right?
what numbers did we think the last 2 were?

>>9208894
14+16

>>9208750
Please do. Just any coordinates in this thread that are in Stockholm, I know there's at least one up there.

i've scoured the museum's website and can't find anything hopeful on it

Is the Valley in question assumed to be on Earth? Tyring to go through this database to see if anything matches
https://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/
Go to Nomenclature, click any planet, click vallis/valles

do we know FOR SURE that the creators are from Stockholm? We are probably on the completely wrong track if they are not.

>>9209011
at least their business is in stockholm

>>9209011
They are from Sweden

What about something to do with the trolley problem since the museum is about tramways?

>>9208750
maybe you just go to the veloxia office and get the answer ;)

I really think we should try to get something better kung fu panda before we invest any more time in 16. It could be significant that Polonium and the first seven triangular numbers are matching. Probably not, my point is that we should really take a step back and ask ourselves if he meant the year that the most recent kung fu panda was released.

>>9208874
You are right, it can't be a mistake. If we count words, we get :

5 4 1 2 2 3 1 4

In letters: E D A B B C A D
(no relevant anagram found)

>>9209054
totally agree - i dont go with the kun-fu panda idea, i'm in for pollonium

>>9209011
its trivial

>>9209054
>>9209063
anything other than 16 gives bogus coordinates.

59.3116, 18.0984 just fits perfectly.
It cant be a coincidence.

There is a valley in Italy called the Po Valley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po_Valley

>>9209080
Already figured that out last thread bub

>>9209064
>>9209077

the area right by the museum is called Henriksdal which translates to Henrik's Valley

so Henrik named the valley, any connections to other clues?

>>9209087
Button Henry is a He, Not a it
What Has Henry done?

>>9209087
This is also an Ikea product
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S09862179/

>>9209093
>Button Henry

He died in 1914, wonder if we messed up the 16 somehow

Death Valley
Valley of the Shadow of Death

That periodic table dot connecting kinda looked like a constellation.

Any SWE fag could try to look at the sky from that museum? Or something more /sci/ that my little brain can't conjure up.

2 factories was founded during the 1880s called Rylander & Rudolphs Fabriks AB producing electrical coal and dry elements.According to a map that belonged to a N.G. Werming, Hendriksdal was originally named Hindriksdal.

I don't know if this is useful though, but perhaps it has something to do with the factories?

connected some of the dots in the grid

If you get the 51st character of the 1st line, the 31st of the 2nd line, and the 84th of the 3rd, you get "Hi." It falls off after that, I just thought it was interesting

>>9209149
I meant 59th and "Si."

>>9209148
hmmmmm, think we are on to something

>>9209148
well that is quite clearly a dick

What are the GPS coordinates of the Museum and the Veloxia office, for the record?

>>9209064
this is too big of a coincidence not to be the right path

What are the postal codes of Veloxia and the museum?

What are the bus numbers for transit between them?

What are the street numbers?

Any other obvious municipal information with numbers?

>>9209165
museum
59.3116, 18.0984

Veloxia has an addres
Tideliusgatan 54
118 69 Stockholm
https://www.veloxia.se/

>>9209173
address of the museum is Tegelviksgatan 22, 116 41 Stockholm
bus numbers between them are 2, 53, 57 and 66

>>9209175
awesome, what is GPS of Veloxia?

I want to see how much the numbers vary.

Sweet could refer to glucose, C6H12O6, if the last 2 are related to chemicals

what about the Divine comedy? There's a Myth about Phaeton that comes up in the seventeenth chapter of Inferno. Phaeton was Sun God's son and the legend says he drove (let's drive) the sun chariot into the Italian river Po, near a town known as Alfonsine. Is that coincidence?

>>9209195
gee, i dont know. let me check google maps real quick.

it seems to be;
59.309372, 18.063134
It varies a little bit depending on where you click
see for yourself to see what I mean

Phaeton also comes up in the 29th Chapter of Purgatory, the 31st Chapter of Paradise, and the 18th Chapter of Paradise

>>9209213
That's actually pretty interesting, even if it's just a coincidence

>>9209217
Sorry, 17th chapter of Paradise

>>9209212
sorry, thanks, didn't realize you could get it from maps so easily...

>>9209210
no way that's coincidence
but doesnt seem like the guy who made this is bright enough to make it so complex

>>9209226
no worries ;P

We still working on 41?

>>9209210
>>9209213
>>9209218
this guy could be on to something
are all the clues accounted for there?

>>9209230
Yeah it's absolutely bullshit, but we're starting to gain some more ground

>>9209210
HOLY SHIT

>>9209233
Seems like theyve made it intentionally too difficult to build up some notoriety

>>9209238
Fuck them.
Lets solve it and send them 42 pizzas if they make a new question

try Phaeton as the answer (my game keeps resetting)

>>9209231
Any followup to this?

>>9209246
Phaeton seems not to be the answer

>>9209246
didnt work for me, but then this only solves the first half of the riddle

If Po is a river, then the "It" in "It named the Valley" could be either Po or it could be "river"

Phaeton is a Car too

Glucose is a bit too obvious for the 'sweet' part. Any places named after any c6h12o6 isomers?

>>9209255
and a kind of carriage

>>9209231
This phaeton thing is interesting, but as far as I know, it doesn't gather all the clues :
-Seventeenth
-Twins 29 and 31
-Po
-Alfonsín
-Let's drive

It can't be a coincidence

It's funny how these 8 random sentences lead to a very complex connection full of links, everywhere.
See, phaeton thing, gps coords that lead to a museum next to veloxia, etc.
The creator must have autism

>>9209247
fuck yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaeton_(carriage)
links in with the museum pretty well

>>9209262
Anyone know what the second half could be about?
Add seven triangular.
Sweet.
It named the Valley.

>>9209262
best connection so far
>>9209148

i feel like i'm witnessing the birth of a new religion

>>9209262
yea its pretty hard to believe it all ties together this way.
But then again, we dont know what information they provide in the museum. and we never will any time soon since the museum is closed until 2019

>>9209141
>>9209269
Could this have any connection to it?

>>9209276
do they have a website? If yes could we see it on the wayback machine?

Let's drive.

google maps driving instructions from veloxia to museum? museum to veloxia?

From the (translated) museum website under 'exhibitions'

>The museum has three permanent exhibitions: a cultural history department on the history of traffic with about 50 vehicles and much more. A history of technology with details from vehicles and equipment as well as an art history department where we tell about the art of the subway.

>>9209148
what is this about?

>>9209292
looks like we're on the right track with vehicles, if the museum has anything to do with it

>>9209283
Let's Drive could literally be referring to the fact that the museum is a transportation museum

>>9209283
>>9209296
>>9209255
>>9209261
everything links to transportation

>>9209278
Yes it does.
The factories are next to the museum, and the museum is a transportation museum, and a phaeton carriage is a way of transport.
PLUS the name of the factory is "Hendriksdal" that means in English "Valley of Henry"
another link

>>9209281
they do google it.
If your swedish is good enough it might be helpfull haha

>>9209303
any source on the factory?

>>9209304
>>9209281

>>9209303
What museum are we talking about, I missed the beginning

>>9209308
I didn't check by myself, but someone talked about it above.

>>9209304
>>9209281
http://sparvagsmuseet.sl.se/

>>9209309
spårvägsmuseet
some coordinates led to it a while back i think. Its also close to the hq of the creators of the game

>>9208389
>>9209064
This museum ^

>>9209309

>>9209309
The one that is linked to the coordinates we found with the 16 digits. It next to veloxia as you can see:

>>9209064

>>9209321
Thanks ;) It's very interesting actually, but what would be the solution then?

According to google there is a museum inside the first museum- Leksaksmuseet.
i dont know what it means, but could be helpful

>>9209327
its s toy museum

Seventeenth and twenty nine
1729

That stupid ramanujan or whatever number again??? Coincidence?????

>>9209326
Something to do with transport is the current thought.
>>9209300

>>9209327
it's a toy museum

>>9209331
good spot, i dont know how it would fit in though

For the Henriksdal thing :
>>9209087

It's next to the museum and it mean "Henry's Valley" in english

>>9209342
Do we know which Henrik named the valley?

>>9209345
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henriksdal

Tried anything that's a name in this page.

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henriksdal
anything useful here?

>>9209345
Here's what someone found:
>>9209141

>>9209350
are there any historical swedish figures named Henrik?

>>9209281
http://sparvagsmuseet.sl.se/in-english/

Looking at pictures from the museum it contains quite a few trams. The trams has been active in Stockholm and has numbers and cities on their signs.

>>9209358
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrik_Horn
Useful?

>>9209362
The Henriksdal tram station is just in front of the museum !

>>9209077
Po = 84 in the p-table

--> 8+4=12

59.3112 gives almost identical location.

just so we dont have to stick with Kung Fu Panda any longer.

>>9209373
That's nice, it was not very convincing

>>9209303
>>9209308

the name of the AREA by the museum is Henriksdal

the factories you are referring to don't exist anymore, they were built in the late 19th century, one produced batteries and the other produced varnish and other oil based products

source is the Swedish wikipedia for Henriksdal

So brief recap, what does the museum conjecture account for? what are we still missing in terms of the hints?

>>9209382
I havent seen anyone looking into the 'sweet' part yet

>>9209382
Museum coordinates account for the first 6 lines.

Still missing "Sweet" and "It named the Valley"

>>9209345
>>9209358

Henriksdal was named after Hindric Spak, Custodian of the Danvik Hospital around the year 1750

source:https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henriksdalsberget

>>9209385
half missing 'it named the valley' - henriksdal.