/sci/ - Science & Math

>First letter of the alphabet
Guys...?

53 29 ??? ... 28 14

>>9204114
there's more?

>Seventeeth of the primes
59
>Its twin is 29
(29, 31) are twin primes
(p,p+2) is a twin prime where both numbers are prime
>Po
The fourth teletubby?

>>9204114
59 31 __ __ 89 28 __ __?

59 is the seventeenth prime
31 is the twin prime to 29
89 is apparently the year Alfonsin went out of office
28 is the seventh triangular number

"Po" and "It named the valley" could be references to the atomic numbers of polonium and silicon, which are 14 and 84. That would leave only "sweet" left.

>>9204179
also, "Let's drive"

the band "sweet" (previously "the sweet") was founded in 1968

>>9204173
>Add
maybe he wants us to add the first seven triangular numbers, which would give us 84

hey guys, bainlet here
what's the answer to this: "A firearm against the man's skull,
Fired a round, now he's deceased. "?

Beryllium ? (Beryllium was once known as glucinum, which means sweet)

>>9204203
queen. it's a reference to bohemian rhapsody

Let's Drive *could* be Lithium but that's only a supposition.

we need moar peeps helping out

>>9204208
I think Let's Drive could be carbon because of its role and percentage in vehicles

lead is supposed to taste sweet

>>9204117
First letter of the "Alphabet"

>>9204197
In the new Brockhampton saturation II song "Sweet" there's a lyric:
On 37th, used to run from the bloods

>>9204205
Thanks. Couldn't find anything on Google about it.

>Let's drive
F1? That would correspond to 50, 1950 was the year of first race.

The song "Let's Drive" by John Oates starts with the word "16": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJAAVeerHkU

Alfonsin died on the 31 March, so could be 31 instead of 89, to give:

`59 31 84 16 31 28 68 14`

Okay we get 8 random numbers, up to 16 digits.

What can be coded into it?

>>9204231
i've converted them to elements:
Pr Ga Po S Ga Ni Er Si

The seventeenth of the primes:
- 59

It's twin is twentynine:
- 29's prime twin is 31

Po.
- Polonium (14)

Let's drive:
- Lithium (3)
- F1

Bye Alfonsin:
- President Alfosin left office in 89

Add seven triangular:
- 28 (seventh triangular number)
- 84 (add first seven triangular numbers)

Sweet:
- The band (founded 68
- Lead (82)
- Brockhampton saturation II (37)

It named the valley:
-Sillicon (14)

---------------------------
ways forward:
-converting numbers into elements?

>>9204238
It's unlikely to be elements, because they're used to get two of the numbers to start with.

>>9204238
Could it be an anagram?
>>9204241

>>9204240
Alfonsin could also be 9, because he died on 2009

Another possibility for "It named the Valley" which isn't so obvious is Valley of Death which origins lies in Psalm 23.

593184 is RGB (89,49,132), violet color.

Maybe has something to do with "roses are red, violets are blue" rhyme.

>>9204245
I think the trend is that the numbers are two digits, in which case it would be 09.

F18984 is pink. Maybe just a coincidence.

Guys. For the first question it definitely isn't referencing prime numbers but instead referencing prime MINISTERS. Addington was the 17th PM. This question is politics based imo

>>9204270
wrong. The question mentions "primes", not prime ministers, and the next question confirms that there are questions not about politics( the answer is obviously 31)

>>9204270
what about "it's twin is twentynine" and "add seven triangular"

>>9204272
Nothing says its necessarily referencing prime numbers.

For the next question it could be referencing twin prime ministers like Kaczynski twins

>>9204280
"add seven triangular"?

>>9204285
I chastise you for thinking it's a simple number related problem

>>9204298
"chastise"? interesting choice of word. what do you propose it is then?

>>9204301
Don't @ me

Impossible

We're brainlets, need more and smarter people

>>9204329
I'm still 2sleepy from last time

59 31 84 __ __ __ __ __

Let's drive: F1, 50, 03 (Li), 06 (C)
Bye Alfonsin: 89, 31, 09
Seven triangular: 28, 84
Sweet: 82 (Pb), 04 (Be), 68 (Band)
Valley: 14 (Si), 23 (Psalm)

>>9204344
Let's drive is 16

>>9204349
explain please

>>9204350
First word of the song

>>9204344
Po = 84 ? How?

>>9204352
right, sorry

>>9204353
atom number

Let's Drive is a reference to the only President that drove in Office

Here are all the theories about what 8 numbers, 16 digits are supposed to mean I came up with:

1) Letters cypher
2) Color code.
3) Years code
4) Geo-location
5) Mathematic series

>>9204358
Sorry, I thought this anon >>9204240 was right about it being 14.

>>9204114
Everything after the first two lines makes me want to kill.

"The Valley" is apparently a song on the album "Unbound 01"

>>9204114
Everything after the first two lines makes me want to kill.

Since there are a lot of chemical elements in the list, wouldn't "it's twin is 29" mean an isotope or something.
Sorry for being shit in chemistry, pls no bully.

Tears if you haven't figured out tge political roots of the problem

Any ideas why the author used "It's" instead of "Its"?

Posessive it's

>>9204389
probably a mistake, doesn't make sense otherwise

>>9204394
Unless it does, and it's the same reason why the author used "twentynine" on the same line instead of "twenty-nine"

>>9204400
Twin Peaks Episode 29?

Interesting... despite including three numbers, the prompt contains no digits ("seventeenth", "twentynine", "seven"). Perhaps that's a hint that the answer will contain no digits as well?

>>9204411
No shit. It's politics

>>9204418
>it's politics
>high score hasn't been updated get despite explosive """ideas""" from """"""""Genius man"""""""

>>9204179
there's also a Po river valley in Italy.

"Po" could be a reference to the last year's movie "A boy called Po"

it could be like Po box

>>9204114

someone better start reading
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/po

>>9204485
po in Guarani means five

Po stands for Politician

Po could refer to the Po valley or river in France

Hey guys, forget about which numbers are required to guess for a minute. Imagine we have them all. 8 numbers, 16 digits.

The fuck we are going to do next with them?

there's a Twentynine Palms in California, no idea how it could be related

>>9204512
make the thing turn green

>>9204518
You think the answer for this riddle should be a simple long-ass number? I will be pretty dissappointed if it turned to be the case,

i hope i'm not barking up the wrong tree

59 31 84 16 31 28 68 14

The seventeenth of the primes. 59 PR
It’s twin is twentynine. 31 GA
Add seven triangular. 28 NI
It named the Valley. 14 SI
Bye, Alfonsín. 31 GA
Let’s drive. 16 S
Sweet. 68 ER
Po. 84 PO

PRGANISIGASERPO long -> short
OPRESAGISINAGRP short -> long
PRGAPOSGANIERSI written
ISREINAGSOPAGRP written reverse

>>9204546
waht are the letters?

>>9204560
elements from the numbers

>>9204546
oppressing agria ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agria

>>9204546
There's a fuckton of anagrams for this, 1400 words and 160000 combinations

>>9204546
I thought about this, couldn't come up with anything though. The elements might be wrong.
Either way, here is a website that might help other anons trying this same approach:
http://en.wordlist.eu/anagrams

>>9204546
SISNIGAGAPRERPO lowest-> highest
POERPRGAGANISIS highest -> lowest

http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Agria_Valley it named the valley

>>9204455
small world

fucking idiot

>>9204573
what if the the answer is an arrangement of PR, GA, NI, ..., PO, which cuts out about 120000 of them combinations

>>9204595
Praseodymium, Gallium, Nickle, Polonium?

>>9204546
>>9204570
OPPRESSING AGRIA

>>9204603
PUT IT IN

>>9204570
"From June 1941 until September 1943 the village was base for the Italian occupation forces. From October 1943 until September 1944 Agria was the home and base for operations of a company of the 4th Polizei Waffen SS field engineers, the 16th Coy SS Pz. Gren. Rgt 8. The commanders building still exists. It is a neoclassical house located at the center of Agria next to the church of Saint George(Agios Georgios)."

>>9204615
>1941
>41st question
We're on to somthing bois

seems strange that there would be two questions involving world wars, perhaps we're on the wrong track

>>9204653
yea,

we need to reconsider the numbers.

Could it have something to do with the electronic configuration of the elements?
http://math.nist.gov/DFTdata/atomdata/configuration.html

Have people not figured out it's obviously politics based yet?

Well done

>>9204707
how so raj?

John Napier Turner is the 17th prime minister of canada

Why not fuck with the guys in Veloxia and have some pizza's delivered to them in stockholm?

>>9204714
I suppose if we're doing that..

Harold Holt was the 17th prime minister of Australia

He disappeared off a beach in Victoria after he went for a swim in heavy surf, and no trace of him was ever found

There's a swimming pool named after him

But I agree that it's more likely to be 59

You'll thank me later guys x

fine. "Henry Addington, 1st Viscount Sidmouth, PC (30 May 1757 – 15 February 1844) was a British statesman who served as Prime Minister from 1801 to 1804. He is best known for obtaining the Treaty of Amiens in 1802, an unfavourable peace with Napoleonic France which marked the end of the Second Coalition during the French Revolutionary Wars. When that treaty broke down he resumed the war but he was without allies and conducted a relatively weak defensive war, ahead of what would become the War of the Third Coalition. He was forced from office in favour of William Pitt the Younger, who had preceded Addington as Prime Minister. Addington is also known for his ruthless and efficient crackdown on dissent during a ten-year spell as Home Secretary from 1812 to 1822. He is the longest continuously serving holder of that office since it was created in 1782."

Another thing for consideration: when you read the capital letters only it yields TIPLBAASIV. So LBAASIV can be our keyword. But, anyway, without a good decryptor we aren't moving anywhere further with this shit.

>>9204753
>But, anyway, without a good decryptor we aren't moving anywhere further with this shit.
Funny you should say that...
http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/

>>9204753
>>9204755
TIPLBAASIV
==
BEDRAGGLES
COMPASSION
ENTRAPPING
RESHUFFLED
UNDRESSING
UNSTOPPING
UNWRAPPING

>>9204762
>
now how do we choose which one to use? maybe this wasn't the right road to go down?

>>9204240
>It's twin is twentynine
31, twin prime of 29
>Po.
Polonium, atomic number 14, atomic mass 209
>Bye Alfonsìn.
Raúl Alfonsìn, died in year 2009
>29
>209
>2009
This can't be a coincidence, guys.

>>9204769
polonium is actually 84, i messed that bit up

>>9204766
So far, there is no right road anywhere in sight. We try out every theory we can and fail. This shit isn't called never completed for nothing.

if they're identical twins, 29 = 29.
sweet? number nine? sixteen?
as for alfonsin, 8+7+(19)89, or 31+3+(20)09?

>>9204780
Google 'twin prime numbers'.

>Po.
Kung fun Panda release date: June 6, 2008

something about sherlock holmes, elementary

fifty nine
thirty one
eighty four
six teen
eighty nine
twenty eight
sixty eight
four teen

59 31 84 F1 89 84 Sweet 14

Roses are red (#F18984)
Violets (#593184) are blue.
Sugar (C12H22O11?) is Sweet
Now no idea what to do.

>>9204798
are we trying to get hexadecimal?

>>9204769
add seven triangular:

2
29
209
2009
20009
etc.

>>9204798
I'm thinking about something that would rhyme with silicon.

>Po
>It named the valley
Po Valley, Italy, with the Po River?

>>9204570
agria is part of thessaly, and thessaly has been in control of half a dozen different groups throughout history

>>9204801
Trying to link a abstract puzzle with some cultural connections (like it worked out previously)

silicon is element number 14, which is 41 backwards

polonium is element number 84, which is also the sum of the first seven triangular numbers

alfonsin died March 31, 2009, 03/31/2009, or 2009/03/31 or 09/03/31 or 31/03/09 or 03/31/09

Seven triangular:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_number

Sweet: Like sweet 16?

>>9204240
>>9204863
Could also be sweet 16

>>9204868
i agree, actually feels more likely

pretty certain the 8 numbers are

59, 31, 84, 16, 89, 28, 16, 14

The only one i'm not sure about is the "Let's drive" one; 16 isn't the driving age everywhere, and 16 was already used as an age for "Sweet 16."

Numbers in ascending order are
14, 16, 16, 28, 31, 59, 84, 89

>>9204884
it could be 18

>>9204884
Years of an event maybe?

>>9204884
the authors are swedes, where the driving age is 18

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_licence_in_Sweden

>>9204884
When it says to "add seven triangular", do you think it may mean to sum the first 7 triangular numbers rather than just take the seventh?

>>9204813
Lolicon?
Fits well with the number 1(.

Po is maybe "Pi O" a GreeK-Australian conceptual poetry-Poet

Sweet could be Beryllium.

According to Wikipedia: For about 160 years, beryllium was also known as glucinum or glucinium (with the accompanying chemical symbol "Gl", or "G"), the name coming from the Greek word for sweet: γλυkυς, due to the sweet taste of beryllium salts.

Answers so far

1 a
2 3
3 f
4 35
5 8
6 fantastic
7 e1
8 15
9 moon
10 infinity
11 colour
12 prime numbers
13 pi
14 500500
15 428
16 hidden
17 ramanujan
18 translation
19 feigenbaum
20 queen
21 wall street
22 millennium bug
23 relativity
24 antarctica
25 weleetka
26 1867
27 justice
28 deadly sins
29 descartes
30 psychopath
31 ted bundy
32 world trade center
33 european union
34 horror movie
35 corpus christi
36 world war
37 plato
38 isaac newton
39 johann sebastian
40 borghese

Can somebody please explain how 30 resolves to "psychopath"?

>>9204897
I meant rhyme with blue and tie with silicon, like:
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Sugar(?) is sweet
and Silicon is (???)

>>9204910
Tell us the question again

Maybe the single lines are grouped by two. The first two are related to prime numbers. 3 and 4 could be Lithium and Po, so Lithium-Polymer. For 5 and 6 I don't have a suggestion how they belong to each other, and for 7 and 8 there's music group "Sweet Valley"

>>9204910
the numbers refer to presidents of the USA
Taking the first letter of their last name then spells
lack empathy
hence psychopath

>>9204919
It was

> 16th A 22nd 35th O 38th E 5th 14th A 45th 23rd Y

resolving to psychopath.

>>9204922
Awesome, thanks!

>>9204832
There are a lot of numbers that could be used...

>>9204924
Politics.

The numbers refer to the first letter of the respective President. E.g. 16th = L (Lincoln)

Spells LACK OF EMPATHY

i.e. psychopath

>>9204924
it resolved to "lack of empathy" where each "xth" was the first letter of the corresponding US president's surname

>>9204930
but we are considering numbers refering to his disparture.

it is stated bye, alfonsín afterall

>>9204930
You say bye when they leave office.

>>9204939
so 89 then

>>9204930
i think the year of president alfonsin leaving sounds more likely tho

Maybe it is impossible to solve as a reaction to "go fuck yourself" :)

Going on with the assumption that this riddle has a solution, the sequence
{59, 31, 84, 18, 89, 28, 16, 14}
modulo 26 is
{7, 5, 6, 18, 11, 2, 16, 14}
which becomes the letters
GEFRKBPN
using the naive translation. All simple caesarian shifts of this are gibberish

>>9204955
this is what im thinking desu senpai

can't someone just run a password-cracker? i don't know how to do it, but it would save us a hell of a lot of time if theres no solution

>>9204975
There's server-side rate limiting.

>>9204976
It could be distributed. There's dozens of us.

>>9204975
I thought sci was smart

>>9204988
Are we? Feels like we are few

>>9204989
/sci/ is smart, but what if
>>9204948
and
>>9204970
are right?

i don't really want to cheat, but i just want to confirm that there is indeed an answer so that we don't waste time

Seven triangular is 28 so add 28

>>9204999
meant
>>9204955

holy fuck #41 is still going? alright, I'll solve it i guess.

>>9205003
You make it sound easy

>>9205003
>I'll solve it I guess
What's the answer, then?

>>9205003
Wait and see....

I solved it

>>9204969
Modulo 45 and presidents?

>>9205012
like anyone's gonna buy that

It doesn't actually say "twin prime", it just says twin and we assume prime from the previous line.

It could also mean 92 (U Uranium) or 62 (Sm Samarium) for other kinds of "twin"

My guess at the most likely possibilities:
```
59
31 92
84
16
31 89 09
84 28
16 68
14
```

>>9205013
lol

that was it on another challenge but ok i guess

{14, 31, 39, 18, 44, 28, 16, 14}

Franklin Pierce
Herbert Hoover
Jimmy Carter
Ulysses S. Grant
Barack Obama
Woodrow Wilson
Abraham Lincoln
Franklin Pierce

Looks like a dead end to me

guys I found this wiki article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/index.php?q=aHR0cHM6Ly9lbi53aWtpcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvSm9obl9UdXJuZXI

He is the 17th prime minister of Canada and the article has the years 1929, 1984, 1968. And there is also a valley in Canada called Turner Valley, can it be related somehow?

If you take our numbers so far and put them onto the periodic table, we get

PR GA PO AR AC NI S SI

what do we know about the numbers?

there are 8 of them
they have 2 digits
there are two groups, 09-31, 59-92

>>9205026
Could these be sorted to make sense?

>>9205027
lowercase, uppercase?

>>9205032

It does not matter lowercase or uppercase, the site converts every input to lower case

var answer = $('.answer').val().trim().toLowerCase();

>>9205027
Question 41: 8 numbers 2 digits

some permutation of:

convert dec to hex
adjust by (hex, dec) offset
convert to ascii

http://www.asciitable.com/

(Sweet) 16?

I am curious why we assume clue two refers to another prime? Wouldn't 92 be the twin of 29?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_prime

i assumed "seventeenth of the primes" refers to a 17th prime minister.

>>9205024
Does he also have a twin?

>>9205052
So this means that instead of it being
59, 31, 84, 18, 89, 28, 16, 14
the 31 should be replaced with a 61.

>>9205031
http://anagram-solver.net/PRGAPOARACNISSI?partial=true

Are people trying all the numbers as we go?

>>9205058
Why? 61 is a prime, but is not 2 away from 29

>>9205066
I misread the puzzle. I was wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarosław_Kaczyński
17th prime minister of poland (po), has a twin brother.

>>9205074
I already mentioned it. Please ctrl + f suggestions

>>9205074
Where do you see that he is 17th Prime Minister ?
I see, "13th Prime Minister of Poland"

>>9205074

Since when was he 17th president?

>>9205074
I think the notion of combining several clues to get one answer is flawed. In addition, Jarosław_Kaczyński (and his twin) are not 29.

>>9205074
His twin brother died in a plane crash: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lech_Kaczy%C5%84ski

>>9205074
Is this brother somehow related with the number 29 ?
Dont forget "it's twin is twentynine"

Okay guys, here's a recommendation: forget all the work we've done up to this point and let's tackle this problem back from the very beginning.

>>9205083
>it's
>tfw can't into English

>>9205084
Agreed. We've hit rock bottom.

Seventeenth prime number = 59
How does 59 relate to 29, or, 2 to 5?

it's twin is 29
-> not a person

31 is likely candidate for position 2

>>9205074
>>9205074
They're not the only Kaczynski brothers, just saying...

Kaczynski brothers were the 4th and 13th presidents of Poland, they add up to 17

>>9205084
Agreed. What year did Kung Fu Panda come out?

There's not much in the Inspect Element of the page.

How can we cheat to get the answer, there must be another source with encryption or something?

I think the 8 lines are independent.

>>9205089
They don't - they're on separate lines
59 is the 17th prime number
31 is the twin prime of 29

>>9205099
2008

>>9205096
what has poland to do with anything.
the twin property has to relate to 29.

you are cherry picking.

>>9205081

They were born in 1949. His twin was 29 when he was also 29 , so that is 1949 + 29 = 1978

Lech Kaczyński married economist Maria Kaczyńska in 1978

>>9205102
Prime minister of what country?
UK? Pakistan? Poland? Canada?

John Napier Wyndham Turner was the 17th prime minister of Canada from June 30 to September 17, 1984.

A possibility for (1) is 84

Who cares what the numbers are if we don't know what to do with them ?

>>9205123
we have to try something right?
or do you have a better idea?

our alfonsin died in 2009 which is 7x7x41.
41 is the question number.

>>9205126
This is not cicadas, ffs

Any way we could get the answer?
I checked the source of the page and there's nothing there.

But I see some sort of code, so it the answer must be stored somewhere else?

Any computerfags here?

>>9205127
lolwut please explain

>>9205131
Cicada was an ARG on /x/.
But then nobody gave a shit about it.

>>9205133
what has that got to do with a fucking prime factorisation.

>>9205135
I think the guy's trying to say we should get all numbersy on it, because the answer is most likely gonna be a word, just like all the other ones.

>>9205128
Yea, you solve the damn riddle. The answer is sent to the server and gets rejected there.

Now I wonder whether >>9204955 is right or not.

>>9205125
Let's concentrate on a thing: how we can convert 8 numbers, 16 digits into something meaningful? We may have a keyword hidden there (TIPLBAASIV? or any other shit), but what about thinking of actual cyphre?

>>9205137
yeah that's the first step ffs. did you see how convoluted other problems were ?

>>9205135
Cicada 3301 built a fucking phylosophy and half of their quests on the idea of hunting for particular primes, that's what it is about.

>it is twin is twentynine.
is there a misspelling

Its gonna be as always, hints hidden within hints. --> we have to first find the numbers, than extract a verbal hint out of it, that will lead us to the solution.

in this case the 1st step is quite obvious, double digit numbers and the element they represent in the p-table.

question is if it is done with that, or if we are going to have to make another step, for example number of electrons of the elements, and then extract a word out of those new numbers.

but for now lets concentrate on finding the real elements.

imo only 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 8th line are probably right, the other ones can also be something completely else.

>>9205146
>>9205146
you need to be 18 to post here.

>>9205147
What do they says "it's", that's just grammatically incorrect.

Why is Valley capitalised?

Why do they say "twentynine" instead of "twenty nine", or "29"?

>>9205154
so what's the general consensus about taht?
it is just a misspelling or a deliberation by the author?

Ur a fag

>The seventeenth of the primes.
This could refer to the 17th prime number 59 or the 17th prime minister of a country. In Canada's case, this would be John Turner. In Australia's case, Harold Holt.

>It's twin is twentynine.
This could refer to 29's twin prime number, 31. It is interesting to point out the two grammatical mistakes in the sentence. "It's" should be "Its" and "twentynine" should be "twenty-nine."

>Po.
Polonium, atomic number 84. There could be a more complex approach to this line however.

>Let's drive.
Some seem to think this refers to F1, a racing event. Others think it refers to lithium, atomic number 3. Honestly not sure how it refers to Lithium. Anyone care to clear this up for me? It seems like since the first two refer to prime numbers, Po and Let's Drive also have a connection of some way.

>Bye, Alfonso.
89 was the year Alfonso left office.

>Add seven triangular.
Refers to either 28 or 84. 28 is the seventh triangular number and 84 is the sum of the first seven triangular numbers. Assuming the theory about every two lines having a connection in some way, maybe "Add seven triangular." is related to "Bye, Alfonso." in some way. Maybe we need to add 28 or 84 to 89.

>Sweet.
Could refer to the band which was founded in 68, or Sweet 16s, or Lead which has an atomic number of 82.

>It named the valley.
I think we're all in agreement that this is definitely silicon, atomic number 14. If lead is the answer to sweet, it does fit well with silicon being the answer to this line I suppose.

The movie twins came out 1988... which was 29 Years ago. Makes ya go hmmmm

>>9205164
Fuck off kid, help or gtfo

0111011
0011111
1010100
0010010
1011001
0011100
0010000
0001110

>>9205160
you can ignore the errors at your own peril

>>9205160
since the author wrote "natuarally" instead of "naturally" on the side bar, i'm assuming it's a grammar misspelling

hey guys it looks like a diode

i think we are going down the wrong track:
https://i.imgur.com/kXaV4MB.png

>>9205166
Alfonsín, not Alfonso.

>>9205179
thats fair

"twentynine" is a city in california btw. If the misspelling is useful.

>>9205179
He is Swedish.

>>9205166
Po could be Petaoctet or whatever it is, but probably not

Henry Addington
17th UK prime minister
Served 17th March 1801 – 29th June 1802
First Term 28th August 1802 – 10th May 1804

dont think too complicated. 4chan.

>>9205173
v~¡+'

whats that supposed to mean?

>>9205173
I thought the same thing and got similar results.

>>9205166
Let's drive could also be 18, since that's the most common minimum driving age in the world. It's also Sweden's (where the creator is from) minimum driving age.

>>9205210
Agreed.

Death named the vally of death.
due to the pioneers there dying.
pairing it up with sweet above it we find sweet death which may refer to johann sebastian bach's song named come sweet death

I'm quite sure about the following:

The seventeenth of the primes: 59 PR

It’s twin is twentynine: 31 GA

Po: Pollonium 84 PO

Let’s drive: ???

Bye, Alfonsín: 89 AC

Add seven triangular: 28 NI

Sweet: ???

It named the Valley: Silicone 14 SI

how is Let's drive related to lithium? huh

>>9205180
how does it look like a diode?

>>9205217
electric cars require lithium batteries

>>9205216
Lets drive could refer to driving age, which in sweden (where the man running the game is from) is 18, which translate to argon (Ar)

>>9205220
why are the cars assumed to be electric ?
non electric cars are majority in sweden.

>>9205218

diode

>>9205230
i know what a diode looks like, i'm asking what makes it look like one

>>9205226

59-31-84-18-89-28-16-14

Pr-Ga-Po-Ar-Ac-Ni-S-Sl

AAACGILNOPPRRS

unscramble it

you need to rethink lets drive and sweet.

>>9205234

I think?

>>9205234
Here it is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%BAl_Alfons%C3%ADn
>Alfonsín suffered a car crash in the Río Negro province in 1999, during the campaign of governor Pablo Verani. They were on Route 6, and he was ejected from the car because he was not wearing a seat belt. He was hospitalized for 39 days.

man the alfonsin clue is ticking me off.
why would a swedish guy know about him in the first place.
alfonsin was not even that newsworthy to warrant a great legacy.

I really don't think they're referring to electric cars and lithium. I think it's much more probable that they're talking about the age limit of driving

convert the two letter element codes to full element names please

>>9205242
i think we're doing pretty good with these vague as fuck clues. Hell, "sweet"? What the fuck can that _possibly_ mean?

>>9205246
kill urself

>>9205257
i think carbon might be it if we are doing the whole elements theme.

How do we know that "bye, alfonsin" refers to the year he left office and not his age when he died?

>>9205260
*kilz salf*

I'm pretty sure we have to turn the element names back into numbers, like that it would be too easy.

>>9205263
Or his brother's plane crash death

>>9205263
you say bye when someone leaves

>>9205264
No

I believe this does not help us.

>>9205271
But you don't say bye when someone dies...

>>9205173
Elaborate plz

>>9205275
It's a spoon?

>>9205277
It's the binary representation of the numbers

I think that "Let's drive" might have something to do with the first successful car, the Ford Model T.

what if "Alfonsin" doesn't refer to Raul Alfonsin? just a theory tho, could be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonsina_Storni

>>9205284
but we are not even sure what the numbers are.

so which of us is the hacker known as 4chan and can they help us plz

there's í not a regular i

>>9205299
that;s the way those white argentinians spell them. nothing wrong.

>>9205302
>argentina
>white

>>9205304
dude that was a bait

More useless graphs

>>9205307
see, a diode

>>9205307

Can anybody explain how to get from

> Wourali mal cam sis.
> 1331471115165824910651

to PLATO? Sorry, I don't get it.

>>9205316
Nerd magic.

>>9205316
see past threads/ it was pretty easy,

>>9205314
that's more far fetched than string theory

posts by ip ratio is too bad. why aren't people participating.

Has anyone seen this?
https://www.nevercompletedgame.com/static/ncg-pxxak02.jpg

If you download it, it contains raw bytes which when written to a file end up with:

>>9205316
It's an anagram for "music is a moral law"
That's a qoute by plato

We are getting off-track.
Let's work from here, or try to re-think the numbers.
>>9205240

>>9205316
Assign each letter on the top row a number from 1 to 16, then split all the numbers on the bottom up; have them be 2 digit numbers unless it's over 16, in which case keep it as a single digit. Then construct a sentence linking the numbers on top and the numbers on the bottom. It spells out a quote by Plato.

The text looks more like a tree desu guys

>>9205336
agreed, i think we need to decide on if we want to evaluate clues separately or as a whole

RECAP - HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR


>The seventeenth of the primes.
This could refer to the 17th prime number 59 or the 17th prime minister of a country. In Canada's case, this would be John Turner. In Australia's case, Harold Holt.

>It's twin is twentynine.
This could refer to 29's twin prime number, 31. It is interesting to point out the two grammatical mistakes in the sentence. "It's" should be "Its" and "twentynine" should be "twenty-nine."

>Po.
Polonium, atomic number 84. There could be a more complex approach to this line however.

>Let's drive.
Some seem to think this refers to F1, a racing event. Others think it refers to lithium, atomic number 3. Honestly not sure how it refers to Lithium. Anyone care to clear this up for me? It seems like since the first two refer to prime numbers, Po and Let's Drive also have a connection of some way. (18? Driving age- swedens)

>Bye, Alfonsín.
89 was the year Alfonsín left office.

>Add seven triangular.
Refers to either 28 or 84. 28 is the seventh triangular number and 84 is the sum of the first seven triangular numbers. Assuming the theory about every two lines having a connection in some way, maybe "Add seven triangular." is related to "Bye, Alfonso." in some way. Maybe we need to add 28 or 84 to 89.

>Sweet.
Could refer to the band which was founded in 68, or Sweet 16s, Lead which has an atomic number of 8, or sweet inury.

>It named the valley.
I think we're all in agreement that this is definitely silicon, atomic number 14. If lead is the answer to sweet, it does fit well with silicon being the answer to this line I suppose.

59-31-84-18-89-28-16-14

Pr-Ga-Po-Ar-Ac-Ni-S-Sl

AAACGILNOPPRRS

unscramble it

>>9205271
He left this world, though...

>>9205348
What words can you make from that anagram?
Anglo, Paris?

>>9205307
Has anyone tried, oh I dunno, COUNTING THE NUMBER OF LETTERS IN EACH ROW, FOR FUCK'S SAKE!?

>>9205352
https://www.litscape.com/word_tools/words_made_from.php
canonicalising
polariscopical

>>9205353
4 Sure i have

30 The seventeenth of the primes.
24 It’s twin is twentynine.
03 Po.
12 Let’s drive.
14 Bye, Alfonsín.
21 Add seven triangular.
6 Sweet.
20 It named the Valley.

>>9205353
I tried, it yielded no results.

Anyway our first 5 numbers:
59 31 84 16 89
Could be readen as
E I C A H D P H I

>>9205353
Alright,
25
19
2
9
11
18
5
16

Not sure if this will help anything...

I tried taking all the suggested numbers and looking at the periodic table for all the numbers since there seems to be a recurring theme of elements. "Add seven triangular" I was so unimaginative I tried to just go down 7 rows moving 1 step to the right every time ending at 107 (Bh). I used letters and tried anagrams of the different combinations but I did not find anything (not an exhaustive effort made)

>>9205333
That file was there before Mission 41 was uploaded.
even before anyone managed to solve 40
I dont think its related

Praseodym->Marinsky
Gallium->Lecoq de Boisbaudran
Polonium->Marie und Pierre Curie
Argon->Ramsay, Strutt
Actinium->Debierne
Nickel->Cronstedt
Schwefel->???
Silicium->Berzelius

I'm from that forum -> http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/42-51-53351970-10-0-1-0-alerte-personne-n-a-jamais-fini-ce-jeu-video.htm
And we had some ideas you guys had too, but we ended up with nothing really concrete.

>>9205353
We already looked up for that, but we didn't find anything relevant.

Would sweet be referring to Beryllium? It used to be known as glucinum or glucinium which comes from the Greek word for 'sweet'.

>>9205362
If instead of 16 we insert 18 for Drive we get anagram of ARCHIE HIND+other unknown letters,

Its twin is twentynine.

They just corrected the It's. Would assume that number of characters is irrelevant then. Can still argue on number of letters.

when converting the numbers to letters I get this, but it doesn't make any sense.

5931841889281614
EICAHDAHHIBHAFAD

>>9205384
We've been using 18

>>9205381
I like it

>>9205275
1p+2p+4p+4p+6p+1d+8d+2f
>17p+9d+2f

welp, I guess at least nobody did it either, since the highscore is still 40.

It's like we are trying to solve Da Vinci code, but it's even more difficult.
Have we even tried "apple" ?

>>9205395
Gives me a tiny bit of hope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Valley,_Anguilla

>>9205397
I'm honestly gonna go grab a dictionary and go through it one by one. But it's probably a phrase because of how many different variables there are. The creator must be laughing his ass off right now

Creator, we all know you are here on this thread, watching us and laughing at us. Come on, give us some relevant hints as you did before for previous missions.
Or maybe we're all fucked up because it has no solution.

>>9205409
Maybe thats the bitter truth: there IS no solution.

>>9205412
No. That can't be it. We have to do this.

>>9205417
Hope you are right...

>>9205412
"no solution" isn't the solution, comrade

>>9205419
Ok. Time to pull out the dictionary. Creator, if you're on here, i swear to god. There better not be a 42nd

This is all just an ad for a VPN service that pops up at the bottom.

>>9205423
Good luck! /NCG

>>9205433
Whats "all"?

>>9205436
What does NCG mean?

>>9205448
nevercompletedgame

apparently the creator.

>>9205448
oh shit nvm - no wonder I cant get this puzzle.

>>9205436
Not funny :(

Po and Valley have connection?
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po_(river))

Let's drive: F1? Ferrari (italy?), maybe 0xf1

Does "Alfonsín" also have some connection to Italy?

Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_Italy

>>9205462
Where did you get that Po and Valley had connection?

>>9205463
Isn't every river in a valley?

what if the answer is not in english?

@NVM ... is it "Valley" and not "valley" for sure?

>>9205468
Every other answer has been in english.

>>9205472
why this one should be also?

>>9205474
Because if it isn't I will go batshit crazy.

>>9205468
Well if we have answers we could try different languages - But we haven't!

https://www.nevercompletedgame.com/api/answer this url gives the question but written weirdly

>>9205475
I think author's intentions is to actually make people batshit crazy. I'm just disappointed the answer isn't windows 98. :)

>>9205463
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po_Valley

>>9205480
No it doesn't, that's just the riddle.

>>9205483
holy shit>>9205483

Note that "it's twin" has been changed to "its twin", so probably just a typo

>>9205491
that's why i asked about the typo in "Valley"

>>9205489
Please explain.

>>9205489
>>9205483

So we can say that the answer has something to do with Italy.

>>9205497
Not automatically.

>>9205497
Do any of the other clues link with italy?

I give up. GG creator

So could it mean that
> It named the Valley.
refers to the Po Valley and what gave it its name?

Maybe it has to do with Alfonsina Strada, she was Ialian, sounds like alfonsin and she died on 59

maybe italy and and the periodic table together?

>>9205510
Reminder the Alfonsín in the question has an accent over the i. So probably not

>>9205509
Does "It" refer to a person, a state, a tribe, something else?

I recommend inputting a bunch of Italian chemists.

Remember to try just first names, just last names, and both

maybe its to do with elements adjacent to the ones we have

it's funny to check the history of the fb page.
it started in 2011, took a break until 2013, and then relaunched again now.

the creator must be an old 4channer, if you look at photos posted by users in 2011 they all have /b/ in their tabs.

Could the Valley refer to something other than a geographical valley? For example, a dip in a spectrometry distribution, or a SEM image, or lots of other tbings could be called a valley?

Okay what we are looking for could look something like this:
> 59
> 31
> 84 (or something with the Po valley)
> Let's drive (we don't really have a plausible explanation for this one apart from F1 or the legal driving age)
> 86 (Pretty sure this one is correct)
> 28 or 84
> Sweet 16, Beryllium (4) which >>9205372 suggested or Lead which has an atomic number of 8
> Silicon (14) or Po Valley and what gave it its name

This is interesting. Bye, Alfonsín could refer to the date his presidential term ended or when he died.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%BAl_Alfons%C3%ADn

>>9205542
We figured that out a couple hours ago

The Po River, called the “Padus” in Latin—the origin of the term Val Padana (“Po Valley”)—begins as a swift mountain stream in the Cottian Alps on the border with FRANCE, near the peak of Monviso (12,602 ft or 3,841 m). It flows east and north to Turin, a major manufacturing town, then continues east across the Piedmont region, joined by several small rivers flowing down from the ALPS to the west or north. Near Alessandria, it is joined by the river Tamaro, which flows from the south, originating in the Apennines. From this point east, the Po’s tributaries continue to be differentiated between those that flow from the Alps to the north and those that rise to the south in the Apennines, with very different characteristics, notably, differences in seasonal flood patterns.

Probably not useful

>>9205551
Sorry I must have missed some of the discussion.

"Sweet" could be 16?

>>9205560
This was discussed, author is Swedish so it's unlikely

>It's twin is twentynine.
twentynine could rearrange to ninetwenty? 920?

Let's drive.
The Via Aemilia (Italian: Via Emilia) was a trunk Roman road in the north Italian plain, running from Ariminum (Rimini), on the Adriatic coast, to Placentia (Piacenza) on the river Padus (Po). It was completed in 187 BC. The Via Aemilia connected at Rimini with the Via Flaminia to Rome, which had been completed 33 years earlier.

If we are going for the Italy theme, you can try 72 or 20 for Alfonsin.

>>9205575
I don't understand though. I'm pretty sure we got the right numbers, or at least 6/8. We should have gotten the answer so far.

Why aim for the right numbers if you don't know what to do with them..

>>9205580
Adding them didn't do the job

>>9205497
Who is Italy's 17th prime minister?

Linking this again, in case someone is unaware it exists:
http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/

>>9205586
Francesco Crispi (1819–1901)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_Italy

the answer is 42

>>9205592

>Top score: 40

>>9205593
He's making a Hitchhikers reference, not suggesting he's answered problem 42, you dunce.

>>9205593
You fucking retard, Morty

>>9205596

Hardly original, since it's been made above. /NCG

I say we input the numbers we have so far and then try random numbers for the ones we don't have until we guess right

>>9205602
Not suggesting it is, just that it's not some claim of exceptional ability.

>>9205611
i doubt the numbers are the answer, there's usually a second or third layer. i'm not even sure they're all supposed to be numbers.
in this question's case its difficult to determine whether we have the right information to begin with.

can someone make a new thread?

Has anyone thought that sweet might be sugar? Like glucose or something?

For valley it could also be talking about the Valley of Death; 04 is bad luck and means death in Chinese culture for what it's worth

>>9205635
honey?
some wines?

New thread
>>9205649

The movie It has a sequel scheduled in 2019, 29 years from the original. Just a random though. Also, if we are looking at elements 29 is copper. Does copper have a twin? A similar 'Fools' element?

What if the numbers correspond to previous mission numbers? That would narrow possible numbers down to 0<x<41