/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9187235
The enlightenment/ western values/ individualism

>>9187235
>Biologically speaking, humanity from 10.000 years ago should be capable of doing what we can do today.
Capable, yes.
>Did we even evolve naturally?
No

It really just happened by chance. There were various times in history when clusters of technological breakthroughs helped to start new eras of humanity. This latest one started with the industrial revolution and then it just went wild.

>>9187235
Linearity is not a given.

300 years ago roughly coincides with the works of Isaac Newton and the beginning of the enlightenment era of western philosophy. In a sense, the intellectual power of our species was dead in the water until about 300 years ago.

>>9187235
why is the soda so realistic compared to the rest of the drawing

>>9187235
What type of art-style is this. Sauce?

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>>9187244
>The enlightenment

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, no.

>>9187358
fuck off, G*rman

>>9187355
Nice axis bro

>>9187355

this graph is definitely wrong. The rate of progress was not higher during the 17th century than the 19th or 18th.

>>9187368
Scientific progress, not engineering and technological progress. Don't conflate them.

Because information became much more available through golden ages like the Islamic Golden Age and the Renaissance. The information and ideas from such civilizations spread through trade routes and word of mouth, and as civilizations become more advanced they become more interconnected which allows people to become more knowledgeable. The internet is an infinitely growing library that any third worlder can access in their pocket through a smartphone.

>>9187235
Feudalism is eugenic. Big empires are dysgenic.

The beauty of post-Roman Europe is in the coexistence of feudalism and Christianity, and the spirit of competitive cooperation. They had the idea of one central truth for all humanity, and a system for cooperating for the greater good, without stopping people from fighting in small, frequent, and highly personal battles.

Men bred from intense and uncommonly fair competition cooperated to produce the best ideas, by competing to outdo each other in their contributions, especially in natural philosophy, where clear progress can be made by validating ideas against experiment.

Newton and Leibniz were the genetic peak of humanity, and we've slowly declined since, as the world shifted to large empires, big wars, byzantine politics, and impersonal battles where the virtuous are sacrificed, not rewarded. Now the decline is much faster, thanks to things like advanced medical care and nuclear weapons.

>>9187368
It's a /sci/ meme image. "Dark Age of Rigorless Calculus" is the punchline. If that doesn't make sense to you, don't worry, it's stupid.

>>9187235
One word, agriculture

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>>9187235
sauce please. what is this artsyle. cmon sci

>>9187432
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/5116391

>>9187235
Technology has progressed. Humanity is still the same animals it has always been.

>>9187235
DELETE this image NOW

>>9187235

Seems like progress is not steady, but rather accelerating. The more info there is, the faster more info is gathered.

>>9187235
Electricity

>>9187355
euclidean autism hindered the progress of mathematics. the most impressive ancient math results were done by people who didn't give a shit about muh axioms (archimedes, heron, the indians and the chinese). and of course, progress in geometry exploded when the parallel postulate was dropped.

>>9187235
intelligence is capable of adapting to environmental conditions faster than evolution.

>>9187813
>progress in geometry exploded when the parallel postulate was dropped

Progress in geometry exploded when Fermat (Descartes ripped him off) invented analytical geometry (aka coordinate geometry, no relation to analysis) and allowed people to move away from shitty synthetic geometry. This turned most geometry problems into simple algebra exercises of picking good axises and turning the crank. Euclid was a step towards this by allowing people to use previous proven propositions as launch pads to solve problems but was still a pain in the ass.

Reward for killing savages and axis powers

>>9187235
Are you implying it's because of retards running after waifus all day long?

If Einstein was such a genius, why wasn't he able to foretell that?

>>9187358
Religion lost its stranglehold.

>>9187235
New knowledge opens avenues for more research which enables close to exponential growth. Increased funding for research, especially after WWII helps. Also the arrival of a rigorous scientific process helped enormously.

Also research as such and computer industry have interacted to bring on massive increase in productivity. Same with health, making it possible to research for a longer time. This is important as training as a researcher takes increasingly longer time as knowledge accumulates.

This thread is full of renaissancefags.

Electricity is why humans advanced so quickly in the last three centuries. Without it we would still be in the middle ages technologically.

>>9188551
Look up where the name "electron" comes from.


t.Classicist.

>>9187235
>humanity from 10.000 years ago should be capable of doing what we can do today.
http://gobeklitepe.info/

They did things we can't even repeat, do you even history?

>>9188301

I am so sorry you have autism.

It's because of population growth.

>>9187235
>Why humanity progressed so much in the past 300 years compared to the past 10.000?

10,000BC-5BC: No Jesus
5BC-313AD: Pagans fucking up
313AD-616AD: Rome failing
616AD-1600AD~: Muhammadans
1600AD~2014AD: Christendom stronk!
2014AD-Today: Commies ruining everything

>>9189996
>Commies ruining everything
>Jews

It's exponential. Even before the last 10000 years of modern civilization humans already fucked around the planet being human, but they did the exact same iron age thing for tens of thousands of years, and the same stone age thing for hundreds of thousands of years before that.

>>9187358
yes

>>9189352
I wish this we can't repeat it meme would die. Gobeklitepe is remarkable because of the time frame. Turns out ancient people were more industrious and intelligent than we previously thought. There's a guy in michigan building his own stonehenge by hand using simple mechanical principles. He's even moved entire barns by hand using these same mechanics.

>>9187235
exponential accumulation of knowledge. by far the biggest enabler is the written language systems

>>9187383
>Islamic Golden Age and the Renaissance

Not sure if trolling or really this uneducated.

>>9187235
People keep talking about "the singularity", that some discovery or other is going to happen in the future that's going to radically alter the nature of mankind.

But this has already happened - multiple times - throughout history and even pre-history.

For instance, let alone the last 10,000 years, how about the last 100,000?

Did not, for instance, the invention of language, forever and radically alter the nature mankind?

Some advancements come about due to a radical confluence of circumstances and, from that point on, just spread like viral wildfire, forever changing everything they touch.

Language, tools, fire, agriculture, animal husbandry, pottery, hunting, fertilizer, quarrying, mining, writing, architecture, sailing, math, physics, mechanics, looms, books, clocks, magnetism, navigation, industry, guns, electricity, science, computers, satellites, internet, countless other self-perpetuating advancements each creating synergies with all the others, each spawning ever more fires of endless change.

Granted, part of it is the fact that we tend to wash all previous advancements into single groups, and take them for granted - nevermind all those we simply outgrew or replaced. In the end, however, it's no surprise that each generation experiences a near exponential acceleration in change, even if they don't always recognize it at the time, and more often than not, claim they've reached the pinnacle of human understanding and the end of the world is just around the corner.

Information based evolution supplanted DNA based evolution as our mechanism for change ages ago, as it's not only vastly more efficient and proactive, it also vastly increases its effectiveness over time, to such a degree where, in the end, we may simply be unable to keep up with ourselves.

The printing press allowing mass production of books radically altered progress. Suddenly everyone had access to the latest scientific knowledge and genius rather than just a few people figuring out really smart things and only being able to share it with a few people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjYUut5NcTs