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9186266 No.9186266 [Reply] [Original]

Are singularities real? Is it actually possible for there to be an infinitely small point in space with the mass of multiple stars?

>> No.9186278

>>9186266
Yes, but the point would only be infinitesimally small in 3D space. It would be a really long "funnel" in 4D space-time.

>> No.9186280

>>9186278
why would different singularities have different masses if they are equal in size and density?

>> No.9186287

>>9186280
because each one has started with and accumulated (from its surroundings) a different amount of mass

>> No.9186295

>>9186280
Not exactly sure, but more massive black holes have a larger event horizon.
I don't know how this affects the internal geometrical/physical properties of the black hole, I think the more massive the black hole, the singularity is further away in the past.

>> No.9186298

>>9186295
I meant future.

>> No.9186300

>>9186287
that doesn't answer the question though

>> No.9186336

>using continuous mathematics to model discrete objects

when will physics brainlets learn....

>> No.9186343

>>9186300
see >>9186298
At least black hole is not a point. If you approach event horizon, time dilation becomes approaches infinity, so under event horizon time doesn't pass relative to external observer, so falling matter doesn't reach the center.

>> No.9186351

>>9186336
This

GR should be scratched for holding back physics.

>> No.9186359

>>9186343
>time dilation becomes approaches infinity
[citation needed]

>> No.9186367

>>9186359
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation#Important_features_of_gravitational_time_dilation

>> No.9186390

>>9186266
In order to really discuss singularities, we at least need a proper theory of quantum gravity, which we don't really have yet.

>> No.9187027

>>9186367
How close would a person have to be to an event horizon to experience significant time dilation?

>> No.9188059

>>9186266
>Is it actually possible for there to be an infinitely small point in space with the mass of multiple stars?

No, but on MATH it is!

>> No.9188069

>>9186266
How can singularities be real if our eyes aren't real?

>> No.9188074
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>>9186336
t. wildberger