/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9103313
>inb4 meme tyson
David Blackwell is pretty famous

>>9103318
>>9103319
Fuck me I was literally 3 seconds too slow

>>9103318
>>9103319
Kek.

Niggers just want to sing dey songs and jump around and rob stores. Don't need no science fo that

Why are there no /pol/, kkk, stormfront etc scientists?

>>9103373

Because working in academia most of them try to avoid politics that aren't directly related to their budgets.

After they become emeritus is a completely other deal

>>9103373
Because science (and most of academia) is overwhelmingly left-leaning. Which makes sense when it's a field devoted to *advancing* human knowledge, not maintaining order or dogma

>>9103318
>>9103319
>>9103366
POPSCI is not SCIENCE

Why are there no famous neurotypical scientists?

>>9103921
Von Neumann was normal as fuck, actually.

>>9103943
>eidetic memory
>monster iq
>normal

>>9103943
Show me his brain and then we'll talk.

>>9103373
There are but most of them keep quiet because endorsing the /kkk/ ends your career.

>>9103313
Nice bait
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_inventors_and_scientists

>>9103313
There are a bunch of black science majors with PHD that do important research. Probably more important than what those scientist that end up on google.

>>9103313
read a book retard

>>9103313

>>9104042
Also,
http://mentalfloss.com/article/86923/11-african-american-inventors-who-changed-world

Without Mark Dean, you wouldn't be shitposting so easily.

>>9103313
This man is Garret Morgan. He invented the modern day traffic light something countries like China and India have yet tot accomplish in the majority of their cities. This man is a hero.

>>9103313
There are in America
3 in the top 13 according to google.

>>9103373
literally half of them are white cisgendered privileged straight males who don't support the SJWtard agenda. By libtards eyes, they're all /pol/.

I've yet to see a lefty scientist.

>>9103313
Is quantum physics bullshit?

[eqn]\hat{H}| \psi(t) \rangle = i \hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial t} | \psi (t) \rangle [/eqn]

>>9103373
openness and creativity overlap strongly with lefty politics, compounded by the ivory tower effect

there are plenty of """""""right leaning"""""""" scientists and mathfags and statisticians though, they just tend to keep their mouths shut

Becuse you can't expect evolution denying free-speech hating liberals to contribute to anything related to science.

>>9104057
I installed his antivirus software on my mothers laptop. It was shit.

>>9103606
What are these traits related to the left?

>>9104497
I believe one of the semiconductor scientist Schottky had a personality flaw and couldn't stop upsetting the feminist of his time. If something like that is what they meant.

>>9103313
Science is gay and blacks anit gay whyte boi

Blackwell of the Rao Blackwell theorem is a big name black mathematician.

anyone who has ever studied statistics should know his name.

>>9103373
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Luther_Pierce

what was that , sweetie?

>>9103318
So he was able to memorize constelations and thats it?

>>9103313
Considering that Blacks (Africans & Abos) did not developed agriculture before the contract with Europeans. They did neither grow crops nor domesticated animals.
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East Asians were the only Civilization besides European that passed through a feudal Society (medieval Lords & Knights, Dark ages n Shiet)
>
India, Islamic World, Native American, Thais & Malays were stuck in Iron Age/ Ancient World type of Civilization. Only East Asians & Europeans passed through a Feudal medieval Period.
>
Europeans passed through Feudal proud first. Followed by Japan, China, Korea & Vietnam. Other civilizations didn't passed through a Medieval Period.

>>9104502
>they just tend to keep their mouths shut
Pussy ass niggas
>>9104676
>Schottky
I'd like to hear what he was doing to piss them off. I can't find on Google
>>9103606
I think its got more to do with Russian and Frankfurter subversion.

>>9103313
Blacks (Africans & Abos) did not developed agriculture before the contract with Europeans. They did neither grow crops nor domesticated animals.
>
East Asians & Jews were the only Civilization besides European that passed through a feudal Society (medieval Lords & Knights, Dark ages n Shiet)
>
India, Islamic World, Native American, Thais & Malays were stuck in Iron Age/ Ancient World type of Civilization. Only East Asians & Europeans passed through a Feudal medieval Period.
>
Europeans & Jews passed through Feudal period first. Followed by Japan, China, Korea & Vietnam. Other civilizations didn't passed through a Medieval Period.

>>9104469
what the fuck this is real?

goerge Washington was black?

>>9104941
>Blacks (Africans & Abos) did not developed agriculture before the contract with Europeans. They did neither grow crops nor domesticated animals.
im propably more racist than anyone on sci but at least be accurate, sub sahara niggers did domesticated some animals, not to the extent we did, but they did. some tribes like the sothos also mined iron, copper and gold and were pretty good at smiting (again, not not very advanced techniques, mostly limited to decorations, spearheads and copper ingots used as a currency). sothos also had pretty big cities before the zulus genocided them in the early 1800s.

They were very primitive compared to whites, arabs, Asians, but comparing them to abos is just cruel.

>>9104941
>Blacks (Africans & Abos) did not developed agriculture before the contract with Europeans. They did neither grow crops nor domesticated animals
Incorrect actually. I was reading the diary of an early Settler in Africa about two weeks back and black tribes had domesticated cows, pet dogs, were making iron spears and gold jewelry and were brewing beer.
What they didn't have was: The wheel, writing, weaving and so on.

>>9104986
Oldest known smelter found in Mali. There is other things that /pol/ like to talk about with out actually learning about it. I'm glad to see you've learnt some shit.
>>9104993

I don't think it should count but I'm sure Ethiopia had writing for a long time too considering Queen of Sheba and being Jews

>>9105010
>Ethiopia had writing for a long time too considering Queen of Sheba and being Jews
Very fair comment. The Sudanese used Egyptian writing and so on.
The diary I was reading was from a settler in Southern Africa for the appropriate context of the original comment.

>>9103373
Everytime someone in the scientific community has an opinion which isn't kosher, they're quickly ostracized from the scientific community. Just ask James Watson.

>>9105018
I saw a hunter-gatherer tribe that had fashioned their own bows and arrows. They were pretty isolated in that they live like bushman.
The thing about certain things is writing the wheel and all that people like to attribute to white guys alone but if you see like writing is thought to be form from Phoenicians or something that were trading in the Mediterranean. They need a way of counting shit. From there they showed other and it just kinda passed on. Lower Africa is pretty isolated so they wouldn't have the advantages of knowledge being passed on through trade. Funny cause the reckon the Zimbabwean Ruins(5000+ years old) had its trade route connecting as far into asia at some point, i find that dubious at best but they have evidence they traded up to the middle east. Greater knowledge only begets more knowledge and its application. Without the exchange of knowledge I thing there was kind of a stagnation in technology for lower Africa

>>9105048
Excuse my retarded writing.

>>9103373
>Why are there no /pol/, kkk, stormfront etc scientists?

It is DEATH to anyone's academic career to even SUGGEST certain ideas. Here are listed some ideas that CAN NOT be questioned:
1. there are NO racial intellectual differences
2. there are NO intellectual differences due to sex
3. All societies are equal, there is NO best society
4. All cultures are equal there is NO best culture
5. All religions are equal, there is NO best religion
6. Any differences seen between the races is due to RACISM
7. any differences seen between the sexes is due to SEXISM
8. the wealth differences between nations is due to IMPERIALISM
9. LGBT suicides and depression is due to homophobia
etc.
Basically any deficit seen in any group is NOT due to the group members but due OTHER external influences
People can NOT fail due to person responsibility, SOCIETY failed them.


4.
studying racial differences, sexual differences,

>>9105054
It's like the purpose of /pol/ is to balance out SJWs.

>>9105054
Majority of those are social science issues so it shouldn't worry about it.
>>9105054
>1. there are NO racial intellectual differences
I really don't believe that and wholeheartedly believe it is cultural despite the studies (that have obviously been spat on) that say other wise. I say that cause I believe personal experience is greater insight than looking at things through a lens. And I have that experience.
>2. there are NO intellectual differences due to sex
Again as I said before. Culture inhibits. Funny how a lot of girls are doing better at math and science in high school now.
>3. All societies are equal, there is NO best society
Its difficult to call one society better than the other. One just is percieved as working better. But I understand what you mean and agree
>4. All cultures are equal there is NO best culture
How would you gauge which culture is better than another? By standing on your own and looking down your nose as if your superior. But this just devolves into moral relativism
>5. All religions are equal, there is NO best religion
You really can't judge which religion is better than the other.
>6. Any differences seen between the races is due to RACISM
That's just stupid and I agree. Idiots shouldn't be given a voice. I presume that'd the biggest flaw in western culture
>7. any differences seen between the sexes is due to SEXISM
Same as above
>8. the wealth differences between nations is due to IMPERIALISM
If you been where Western nations intact force to maintain there hegemony. Then perhaps yes. Not to mention the continued exploitation. Pic related. Though most shitholes have a myriad of issues that keep them in their place. Like Africa

>>9105054
>9. LGBT suicides and depression is due to homophobia
I've never heard that one before. But before and even now psychologists are getting away with saying gender disphoria is a mental illness. The problem is that actual scientists and such are being forced by people that know nothing about the subject into politics. These people pushing this shit, the majority don't know and don't look into the problems that are causing these trans to kill themselves. Hopefully after the body count reaches 100 000 they'll realise they are wrong.
> Basically any deficit seen in any group is NOT due to the group members but due OTHER external influences
I actually believe this and not to would be unscientific. People are generally the sum of their experience and environment. People born and raised in poverty. Surrounded by extremely bad influences and role models are bound to walk the wrong path. That's the problem with the African American community. They weren't like this 40 years ago. You know 'the man' always trying to keep a nigger down was legit. Do some research into the racist government and the people that went out of there way to destroy the African American communities. Now its just self perpetuated.
>People can NOT fail due to person responsibility, SOCIETY failed them.
Its easy to see why people would find comfort in that. Some reason Hitler killed the Jews. Gotta watch out for that.
>studying racial differences, sexual differences,
Better not. The science is done. Society has to change before shit like that can be looked into. Its not worth the trouble
Here's that pic about exploitation

>>9105085
>>3. All societies are equal, there is NO best society
>Its difficult to call one society better than the other. One just is percieved as working better. But I understand what you mean and agree
>>4. All cultures are equal there is NO best culture
>How would you gauge which culture is better than another? By standing on your own and looking down your nose as if your superior. But this just devolves into moral relativism
>>5. All religions are equal, there is NO best religion
>You really can't judge which religion is better than the other.

Society is the rules people use to interact.
I DO think freedom of speech, freedom or religion, one person on vote are BETTER than any alternative

Culture is how people race children, marry, treat opposite sex. Modern American BLACK culture is horrible: super majority of children born out of wedlock, drug usage, crime, violence (the number one killer of young black men is young black men). Traditional European is SUPERIOR.
Islamic religion is pedophilic (Muhammad fucked his wife when she was 9 and all his action are PERFECT to his followers). If you see a person holding a human head up in a public area there is almost a 100% chance that person is Islamic. Christianity IS better.

There ARE better cultures, societies and religions.

>>9105100
If Christianity was better they'd put there foot down and bring some Justice to the world. Christianity is pretty much mind your own business now. Its practically irrelevant unless your looking for some wholesome family values
Its freedom of speech and such that is bring so much turmoil into the west as of now and is becoming a detriment. Its cultural collapse I think. But as you can see it is merely a product of Western culture? Or maybe its outside influence?

>>9103313
Because blacks have low IQ.

>>9105054

>1. there are NO racial intellectual differences
>2. there are NO intellectual differences due to sex

It's not that there cannot be differences but the research involving this is within the realm of psychology. Which so happens to be the one field of science with the some of the worst replication/ reproducibility rates. Because of this a lot of topics within psychology science is being questioned and honestly for good reason. Try to imagine having a low reproducibility rate in applied physics or engineering it would be a fucking mess.

>3. All societies are equal, there is NO best society
>4. All cultures are equal there is NO best culture
>5. All religions are equal, there is NO best religion

To be fair from an evolution perspective 3. and 4. are true for the most part. As long as the population in question survives there is no singular best society or culture.

Concerning 5. since the religions in question have presented no tangible and objective proof in being "correct" nor provide anything that can measured and falsified there is no best religion.

>6. Any differences seen between the races is due to RACISM
>7. any differences seen between the sexes is due to SEXISM

These are the only two I will agree with, however there is a difference between acknowledging these differences and creating unnecessary tension in an environment that requires cohesion within a system among it's parts.

>8. the wealth differences between nations is due to IMPERIALISM

This is factually true, political/ military control of resources and territory do in fact create the majority of wealth differences between nations.

9. LGBT suicides and depression is due to homophobia

Partially true, homophobia does in fact contribute to suicide and depression in LGBT community. But it is not the only factor, the key is which element plays a greater role.

>>9105113
Its nice to see you've done your research

>>9105054
They destroyed James Watson's career (Nobel Prize winner DNA research) for QUESTIONING if there a link between intelligence and race.

There are ideas and even words (n-word) that European descended people are NOT allowed to question or say.

>>9105111
>Christianity is pretty much mind your own business now
sadly this is true, in america and western europe Christianity is best understood by most people as "be nice", instead of any connection to the apostolic tradition

polite sage for offtopic

>>9105124
You don't have to say nigger. Just so some respect for someone else. Even if he asks you to call him a her.

>>9105142
>You don't have to say nigger.

You miss the point I am NOT allowed to say nigger.

New Jay-Z song O.J. (I would be fired for singing along to his song):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM7lw0Ovzq0

>>9105146
But do you really have to say nigger?

>>9105148
>But do you really have to say nigger?

No! but I CAN not say it and expect no repercussions. Name ANY word that a black man can say and then lose his job over.

P.S. personally I treat all people with respect and have no problem with not offending people and respecting their culture and religious beliefs, but as white American straight married male this is normal and expected.

>>9105154

>Name ANY word that a black man can say and then lose his job over.

deadline.com/2017/02/nick-cannon-leaving-americas-got-talent-threats-firing-racial-joke-1201910314/amp/

Not a word mind you but still.

>>9105167
>Not a word mind you but still.

Sad. Comedians losing their jobs because social liberal snowflakes can not take a joke. Could be worse, comic writers have been killed because they "insulted" Muhammad.

>>9105181
Honestly, Mormonism is one of the most obviously retarded religions out there, to the point that I have a hard time thinking people honestly believe that drivel, but the actual practitioners of the religion are great people. One of the best communities of nice people on the planet.

>>9105192
I agree... theology is whacked, BUT the people are salt of the earth. Good family values and community.

>>9105154
>name one word a black can use and lose his job
Probably something like kill all whiteys. Though I'm sure white people will defend this and say your sorry. You're your own worse enemy
>>9105154
>>>9105148 (You)
>>But do you really have to say nigger?
>As a white American straight married male
Watch yourself m8 you just ousted yourself as privileged and the enemy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vX_Vzl-r8NY skip to 03:00 to see how oppressive your very existence has been.

>>9105207
>tfw you don't even need to get out of bed to start oppressing people

feels good man

I think I'm going to go eat some oppression fuel (cereal) and then take an oppressive shit. Maybe take an oppressive nap afterwards. Such is life as a straight white male.

>>9105154
>I have no problem with not offending people and respecting their culture
>Complain about backlash over offending people and disrespecting their culture
Really?

You can say the word all you want. But if you think you're not being incredibly offensive, then you are the one that is delusional. You're going to get railed by people who actually do want to respect culture, including employers.

>>9105207
WTF.. standardized tests are RACIST?!?
The whole idea of a standardized test is to judge everyone equally, everyone gets the same questions and has the same time to answer them.
There are no "white" questions of "black" questions or "male" questions or "female" questions. Math is math, and history dates are fixed, and biology exams are same for everyone.

>>9105218
>You can say the word all you want.

But I do not... so why do black people who are SO OFFENDED by it continue to use it? Why is Jay-Z still using it. If they want it to go away then DO NOT use it.

>>9105226
Because that's how social nuance works. Social norms and verbiage are a constantly evolving thing. It's also an ongoing discussion in the black community. I know some black people who have stopped saying it, but understand why it's still used. Putting the blame on black people for white people being offensive is ridiculous. Put the blame where it belongs. People know it's offensive.

>>9105226
Cant believe we are letting this go off-topic. But there was a time when blacks started using nigger themselves and it was frowned upon by their own. Only gangstas the bad used to use it. Slowly but surely it just became integrated into the culture. They destroyed themselves along with the help of social engineers. Its like being brought up and taught its okay for you to use it but not others. As whites started using it less they started using it more. Completely retarded but its so ingrained you can't really blame them.
>>9105223
>muh oppression
Its the enablers that are doing this. White people are legitimately creating problems by ignore what is true and making up bullshit. Very pic related

>>9105241

So a black man says:
When *I* say the word it is OK, when YOU say the word I am offended AND you will be punished...
know your place whitey... KNOW YOUR PLACE

>>9105244
That lacked any nuance. Not everything has to be as simple as you want it to be.

>>9105244
Why do you want to think like that?
Like what this guy said>>9105253
Anyways its offensive kind of in the same way you can joke with your friend and call him a cum guzzling donkey fucker. But you can't say that to some random on the street.
Note I said kind of

>>9105292
>call him a cum guzzling donkey fucker.
You will not lose your job if someone overhears you saying that on the phone in your office, but SJW are everywhere and they LITERALLY will try and get you fired if they overhear you say something that "offends them"
https://techcrunch.com/2013/03/21/a-dongle-joke-that-spiraled-way-out-of-control/

>ctrl + f "peanut"
>0 results
shame

>>9105305
Look, woman fired for insulting her boss and false accusations of sexual harassment:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206491/Woman-sacked-Facebook-boss-insult-forgetting-added-friend.html

Or let's just not cherrypick at all, please. It doesn't prove anything.

>>9105305
>fear the SJWs RAWR !!!11!

Dawww, did you actually try to scare him with it? This shit goes on everyday and nobody gets fired, they desperately look for examples that favor their agenda and completely ignore the crying SJWtards with no attention since it disproves their point.

>>9105305
What this guy said>>9105325
But your right. Its not minorities that are out to fuck everything up. Its other white people themselves and the minorities they try to trick into believing they are being oppressed.
Also as you said with the office. Its a professional environment. Those kinds of mannerisms are unacceptable. Its got nothing to do with anything other than professionalism

>>9103313
>Why are there no famous black scientists?

Anyway, see above. That is why we see very few famous black scientist.

>>9103373
There are tons

>>9103373
phillip leonard
william shockley
johannes stark
oswald teichmueller
helmut hasse
erich kaehler
erhard schmidt

and the list goes on

>>9105416
how do you skip the prize winner founder of DNA in that list

>>9105422

he was already mentioned, I felt it redundant, I didn't need to pad my list any further

>>9105124
Except for the fact that he doesn't agree with any racism.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/James_D._Watson#To_question_genetic_intelligence_is_not_racism_.282007.29

>>9103373
You mean like every White male scientist was before 1945? :^)
>>9103425 >>9103606 >>9104018 >>9104497 >>9104502 >>9104914 >>9105020 >>9105054 >>9105396 >>9105416

>>9103373
Because they are brainlets. Real intellectuals dont identify with a party.

>>9105918
I think a lot of it back then didn't have much to do with racism and more to do with uncivilized savages an it worth a damn

>>9103313
Because not acting like a deranged primate is haram in black culture and Im black just so you know. I was bullied for my interest in science and getting good grades as well. White people saw me as a thug even when I got no criminal record to date. Smart people are losers in black minds.

>>9104972
That's George Washington Carver

>>9105918
Fake quote

>>9106054
Anon, everyone knows that notable figures throughout all of history used modern parlance at a modern middle school level.

>>9106069
What?

>>9103313
Because history is eurocentric
Because the enlightenment happened first in Europe
Because the exploitation of Africa by western powers stagnated African culture and science

Because all of those

The easiest way to beat /pol/ I've found is ask the same question except insert 'native American' into it.

Because I've learned that /pol/ believes that they're superior because of the addition of Neanderthal genes into the genome which does not exist inside Africa but does exist in Native Americans as well. As an added bonus Native Americans are most closely related to Asians genetically, who historically have the highest IQ and yet Native Americans, for all the bounties of the North American continent accomplished little more than dirt mounds and teepees. This from a group of individuals who share nearly the same genetic code of Asia?

The whole argument that something must be wrong with the African people completely falls apart when you realize Europe simply stole most scientific advancement, prior to the industrial revolution, from China through the silk road and Arabia. After that it wasn't until education could increase the overall intellect and reason of the population sufficient to create the modern age.

Had that happened somewhere else first, and it very easily could have, Europe would have remained in the dark ages while some other civilization conquered them first.

>>9106124

Asians don't have high IQs.

Literally all of modern science, mathematics and everything that the modern world runs on was developed by Whites.

Where do you retards even pick up these bizarre theories?

Through popular culture?

>>9106088
You forgot the part where the mean IQ of sub-Saharan Africans is sub-75, or legally retarded by western standards.
Btw, when was African culture not in stagnation? If I'm not mistaken, by the time Europeans first reached sub-Saharan Africa in their steel armor with firearms riding fully-rigged ships capable of intercontinental travel it was full of savages in little groups hucking spears at each other, eating mud, and sacrificing babies to the river juju.

>>9106132
This.

Asians, however, have the ability to keep working in something until mastery is achieved...

>>9106132
https://archive.is/aEC00

One of the top String Theory guys is black.

>>9106088
>Because the exploitation of Africa by western powers stagnated African culture and science
How did that happen? Also
>African culture and science
>science
top wew. Take at every black African country and tell me with a straight face that they or their ancestors are and were capable of notable scientific advancements.

Mathematicians and scientists are probably the most socially liberal people you will find, in the purest sense of the term. Many of them have some beliefs they wouldn't state publicly because they're taboo, but rarely are these beliefs the basis for conservative ideologies. It's not just that conservatism basically contradicts the style of thinking you would expect academics to have, but academia is really incestuous. Even if you wanted to, it's hard to care about nonsense like race / sex/ nation when your identity is so thoroughly tied to being an academic, the institution and field you're a part of, etc.

>>9103975
That explains why their heads are always shaped the way they are

>>9104924
I wish I could punch that cooze in the bridge of the nose with a knuckle duster

>>9103324
Isn't analytics applicable to robbery?

>>9106005
A young black man who studies hard, gets good grades, does not knock up every slut in reach, does not take drugs, and has no criminal record (i.e. is normal by White and Asian standards), has life on EASY mode.
Getting into a GOOD university is vastly easier for black candidate than a white or asian one. Getting a teaching position in a university is even easier. Black PhD in Statistics is rarer than finding a unicorn. Every Statistic department in America would be competing to get him on the staff.

>>9106124
>Europe simply stole most scientific advancement
How do you "steal" scientific advancement. You mean they used the inventions and ideas of others, BUT how does this "take" from African or Chinese people... did they suddenly just STOP all advancement because someone "stole" their ideas???? It is like someone copying off me "stealing my ideas" during an exam... I am NOT dumber or slower because of it.

>>9103975
They can't compete with this PHENOTYPE.
Big Ashkenazi Brain

>>9103373
there are literally tons of famous scientists who worked for nazi war programme you faggot

>>9106352
Nigeria has satellites in space right now btw

>>9106124
Exactly what scientific advances did the west steal from China?

>>9106035
AYO HOL UP. WHYZ U TRYAN TO UM *lip smack*STEEL HOUR CULTORE WITEY. ERRYON NO DAT UM GEORGE WASINTUN WUZ BLACK AND UHH BECAME THE PREZ AND UHH MADE PEANIT BUTTA

>>9106124
Native Americans actually had a massive civilization. But it collapsed for whatever reason and they broke up and took to living in teepees
>>9106132
Bizzare theories? Your dismissing documented facts. Next you'll tell me sex is a social construct.

>>9106192
What's the conclusion? I'm a busy person
>>9106750
This is true. And considering the underrepresentation and lack of competition he'll just coast through.
>>9106765
Nazis would disavow all those groups. They have to much respect for themselves and other races
>>9106793
No

>>9106911
Native Americans were easily conquered by Europeans because:
No gunpowder so no guns/firearms/cannons. No wheels so no carts. No large ships.
Lack of Education. Only the elite of Mayan & Aztec could read.
Didn't know modern science.
Weak against diseases.
Don't work hard.
> By other hand
East Asians were not conquered by Europeans because:
China invented gun powder. Japan forged guns/firearms/cannons since 15th century.
China & Japan built wheels, carts & large ships since ancient times.
Since 17th century 90% of Japanese could read & write an alphabet which is far more complicated than English alphabet.
Japan learned Western Science. & Still one of the most technologically advanced Nations since the 19th century.
Asians work hard as Germans.

>>9105918
>powerful docile animals

What the fucking fuck are you on about? You cant fucking domesticate zebras, buffaloes & african elephants. There's a fucking reason why very few african animals have been domesticated, they're just genetically indisposed. You pol faggots know nothing and spout your bs like its fact. Only fact is your intellectual inferiority to even the basest of basers.

>>9106942
Ones society collapsed and the other didn't. There are were all your differences are spawn. For a civilization to prosper there needs to be a sense of identity and togetherness. Native Americans like Africans are all dispersed and warring each other to ever come together and move forward
>>9106942
Don't forget mass literacy only came to 'whites' in the past few century. Before that the Church held them back.
>>9106944
Yeah some guy tried to domesticate Zebras and pretty much failed.

>>9106942
>Native Americans were easily conquered by Europeans because:
>No gunpowder so no guns/firearms/cannons
>East Asians were not conquered by Europeans because:
>China invented gun powder.

So why Europeans weren't conquered by Chinese?

>>9106911
>Native Americans actually had a massive civilization. But it collapsed for whatever reason and they broke up and took to living in teepees

Who the fuck thought up this fantasy!
This is just about at the "we wuz kangz" beliefs of African Americans.

Please list ANY credible proof of a Northern American super civilization that collapsed.
There are Central and south American ruins that prove there was a large civilization, BUT North America was just above stone age in tech.

>>9106952
Because Arabs where in between. It's tough to conquer a desert.
Europeans 1st conquered weaker and easier targets than Arabs such as Africa, Native Americans, Australian Abos.
Only in 19th century after the fall of Ottoman Empire, British were able to conquer India, Arabia, Egypt & Malaysia.
Europeans tried to conquer Thailand, China & Japan but failed.
USA had to nuke twice Japan to defeat them.
Vietnam was conquered by France but then quickly became independent then won a war against USA.

>>9106952
Chinese aren't dicks...
>>9106955
Your lucky I can't find it now. But that fact alone probably proves whatever I read was nonsense.

>>9105085
1. >I believe a logical fallacy such as anecdotal evidence is better than all of the evidence amassed by scientists over the years
Well shit, all you had to do was say so
2. Literally same thing. Men have like 6 trillion more synaptic connections for a reason, yet you provide no evidence, just how you "feel", another fallacy.

Most of the rest of your points is just pure retardation that refuse to accept there is a racial disparity in intelligence on the genetic level, and it all just must be "muh culture"

>>9106982
>Chinese aren't dicks

Yeah that's why there's an unbelievable amount of videos of them running people over, then backing up to finish the job right? They're absolutely scum, and their society is centralized on screwing other people over.

>>9106958
>muh Vietnam won!!!
Yet our kd was like 10. We only stayed there as a political tool to give Nixon another term of presidency.

>>9106088
Without the Europeans, Sub-Saharan Africa would still be in the Paleolithic.

>>9106922
IQ across different ethnic groups in the US: Blacks have an average IQ of 85, whites of 103, Asians 106 and Jewish Americans 113:
>The study found that the average IQ for African Americans was lower than those for Latino, White, Asian, and Jewish Americans (85, 89, 103, 106, and 113, respectively; Herrnstein & Murray, 1994, pp. 273–278)

>>9106124
But arabs stole all their "cultural achievements" from greeks, hindus and persians.

>>9107134
Look at things behind a lens and getting in there an experiencing it are as different as practical and theory.
https://archive.is/aEC00 I'm to lazy to read this but the first few paragraphs says some shit about conflicting studies and such.
Who said synaptic connections got shit to do with intelligence? I have a hundred guns but I can only use one.
No I never said it must all be culture. I said their are various reasons. Genetics alone isn't the major or only contributing factor.
>>9107136
Hey. Killing that person is the difference between your family starving or not. Its an act of survively and your duty to put your family first.
>>9107147
Maybe they would have be better of that way. We just made it easier for them to genocide each other.
>>9107150
I also hear your public school system is shit and blacks aren't all that interested in education there. Why don't you look at the IQ of say South Africa. Ones that aren't bogged down by students living in townships and stuff. I live in SA and our schools are pretty mixed up. Funnily enough Indians are always the over achievers and the Africans are on par with the whites. The Africans that are raised in townships rarely ever perform as well as Africans coming from a middle class family in the suburbs.

>le white man is superior meme

How does this sort of meme work when there are in fact millions of people of any given ethnicity that you consider sub par that are highly educated and accomplished professionals and multimillionaires and even billionaires?

>>9107167
Africa is about to become the worst dystopian nightmare future ever imagined. Africa is corrupt, mismanaged, violent, superstitious, and BARLEY sustainable in food NOW. It is EXPLODING in population, there will be wars, famine, disease, etc.
Africa is becoming a hellhole on earth.

Why use black skin as your arbitrary metric by which to statistically discriminate against others?

There are an infinite number of criteria, each one of which will divide the population into two or more groups one of which will of course perform better than the others.

Rural people are statistically stupider than urban people. Am I supposed to start thinking of rural people are subhumans now?

>>9107187
I know. Whats scarier is the SA is the America of Africa. We got illegal immigration from everywhere. If they collapse they bring us down. Not that SA is doing that itself. But you never know. The more people that are educated the lower the birth rate goes. There is still a chance. Like what's happened with every other country Africa will eventually stabilise itself

>>9107167
>I also hear your public school system is shit and blacks aren't all that interested in education there. Why don't you look at the IQ of say South Africa. Ones that aren't bogged down by students living in townships and stuff. I live in SA and our schools are pretty mixed up. Funnily enough Indians are always the over achievers and the Africans are on par with the whites. The Africans that are raised in townships rarely ever perform as well as Africans coming from a middle class family in the suburbs.

Sub-Saharan black mean IQ is below 70, which is well below the line of legal retardation in the US. The only reason blacks in western civilization have any capacity to attend school is due to cross-breeding white whites, bringing their mean IQ up to about 85, still well below the white mean of 103, below the Asian mean of 106.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609001275

>>9107181
>>le white man is superior meme

The culture and society is BETTER, not he race. There are millions of gifted blacks, but one need only look at Africa and see that SOMETHING is seriously wrong there. You can only blame Whitey for so long, before you have look at African culture and society and say this is some major fucked up shit.
Africa is now run by Africans and it is failing miserably and is beginning to drag down the rest of the world. Europe will have no choice but to BAN African immigration else it will become African.

>>9107205
>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609001275

Why do you link the guy who everyone else is saying, is wrong?

Do you understand how /sci/ence works? You don't get to just pick and choose the paper with the conclusion that you like.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100121155220.htm

Richard Lynn's papers are not considered reliable research.

>>9107208

>and it is failing miserably

Africa is booming at an insane rate. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>9107205
Have you seen sub-saharan infrastructure. Check this guys post>>9107205

>>9107202
>cross breeding brought there mean up
Yet the pure breed down here are smarter than those in America. You really shouldn't put African American on the same level. African Americans are retarded. You guys fucked them up.

>>9103373
Excuse me?

>>9103313
>Little do many know that those black and white photos are wrong. They used the negitives at printing and the editors never fixed it after they found out.
>So Einstein, Curie, Darwin and even Pasteur were all black. Heck Darwin was known to have come from the island of Tenerife in west African. Dude was as black as they come.

>>9107221
Ok, I'm willing to accept Lynns papers may be flawed.
Doesn't change the fact that cranial volume of Sub-Saharan Africans is significantly lower than all other races, and that cranial volume positively correlates with IQ.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2770698/
https://cbs.asu.edu/sites/default/files/PDFS/gould-science.pdf

>>9107222
>Africa is booming at an insane rate.

You ARE insane. This is your insane belief:
Africa is noted for its clean, efficient, stable well run cities and states, filled with well educated, peaceful, healthy citizens. Crime is all but unheard of in the continent, rape and theft are unknown concepts there. Soon the African space program will start populating Mars.

>>9107265
Agreed. Neanderthals were far more intelligent than Homo Sapiens. Its a shame the stupid Europeans killed them off as we'd be conquering the stars by now. Whites are lucky to have m8 with Neanderthals as it gave them half a standard deviation in IQ. Just enough for them to figure out round things roll

>>9107276
MSM likes to always look at the bad and not the good. That's why Syria always looks like a hellhole regardless that 70% of the population are getting on with there lives perfectly fine.

>>9107282
>look at the bad and not the good.

OK name ONE medium to large African Nation, run by Africans, that any sane human would WANT to live in.

>>9107298
I could say the same about southern states.

>>9107298
South Africa :P White people are more likely to be successful here than in many other countries. Though its slowly going to shit because of socialism. That's another thing people don't realise. Communist have tried there luck in Africa and imparted their ideology. Also that warlords and terrorists are the ones that are actually running the country. I.e. Mandela was a terrorist. Nigeria or some country doesn't have war because a Warlord actually took it over. These types of people are more susceptible to corruption and other unsavory Democratic decisions. Zuma has over 876 cases of corruption put against him. Which is pretty impressive if you think about it. He's only been in power for like 6 years. The sense of for what's better for the nation is not there it seems. Only how rich can I get whilst I'm in power. I'm sure that's inherent with the other African countries. Not to mention foreign influences seizing the natural resources via corrupt government members

>>9107317
I live in Florida... a LOT of sane wealthy people come here to retire. My parents live a gated community, near Daytona beach.. zero crime in the community, sunny, warm, good doctors and pleasant people. They have a great golf course that dad plays in when he wants. the club house has a few pools and a nice bar, library, dance hall, etc. I think I once saw a black family there.
Florida is AWESOME to retire in (if you have some money and can afford a gated community)

>>9107345
>gated community
What are you so afraid of? As you said you've only seen one black family

>>9107351
>What are you so afraid of?
In America we are not allowed to "remove" people from the community. We can "gate" them out though. I live in an ungated community and most of my neighbors are black, they are all good people but there IS crime here. In the community I was raised in there was no need to put your bikes away, you could just leave them in the front yard and we never had to lock our house door (yes 99.9% white community). Now, I had my house broken into and now I have to waste money on a house security system. My next house will 100% be in an area with few poor people or blacks. I do not like the crime.

>>9107351
>only seen one black family

One black family in the community. Black people rarely amass retirement wealth (gotta have them 12 kids and gold rims on the car)

>>9107368
A black family is actually more reasonable. Its the woman stuck with all the children and the man drink robbing and impregnating more woman. A real black family actually functions much like a white

>>9107376
>A real black family actually functions much like a white

BEFORE welfare and progressive liberal ideology and the free love and drug culture destroyed the black family. They were noted for being some of the most conservative and close of all the races/communities. At one time blacks were noted for GREAT families, black fathers STAYED with there wives and children, children were only born in wedlock and being a criminal was to be shunned in the community.

>>9107361
It's as if wealth and crime were connected somehow

>>9107388
> progressive liberal ideology and the free love and drug culture destroyed the black family.
Wow, the war on drugs meme really worked.

>>9107278
>Agreed. Neanderthals were far more intelligent than Homo Sapiens. Its a shame the stupid Europeans killed them off as we'd be conquering the stars by now. Whites are lucky to have m8 with Neanderthals as it gave them half a standard deviation in IQ. Just enough for them to figure out round things roll

[citation needed]

>>9107413
Whoops, that image was missing the full quote.

>>9107407
>It's as if wealth and crime were connected somehow

Not true... grand parents were poor Appalachian farmers, POOR as fuck. Grandma had nine children only three lived to adulthood (POOR as fuck)... they and their community were salt of the earth... no crime, everyone helped each other, shared what they had, prayed together, and everyone cared about their neighbor.

Lack of Wealth does NOT equal criminal.

In today's world your lack of wealth is because you are crazy or lazy and these DO equal criminal. Community colleges are dirt cheap and give a good education, and skilled workers are have vocational training (plumber, carpenters, electricians, truck drivers, etc).

>>9107422
Somebody failed statistics. Don't you know cherry-picked examples make you look dumb?

>>9107417

Hedonistic drug users do NOT get any sympathy from me. I am all for legalizing drugs, but it is not up to *ME* to decide drug laws, so instead I obey them. If someone is stupid enough to use a criminal drug then guess what... they be a criminal.
My drug of choice is my wife, that is all the "high" I need.

>>9107431
Crime rates were virtually unchanged during the great depression compared to before and after the great depression.
Crime creates poverty, poverty doesn't create crime.

>>9107431
>Don't you know cherry-picked examples make you look dumb?
So the entire community was cherry picked?
How about just accepting that some communities are more inclined to crime then others. Many Mormons and Amish are poor as fuck, but there is almost NO crime in their communities.

>>9107440
Those are called outliers :^)

>>9107438
Literally the height of organized crime. Also everyone was poor though.

>>9107437
Repeated research has objectively shown that psychedelics are extremely powerful therapuetic medications, when used correctly.

Then, it's a very simple risk vs. reward calculation. Using these medications vastly increases quality of life and in numerous cases prevents suicide and produces more productive, happier citizens. Though the chance of arrest is small, the consequences are very large. However, this comparison will still often favor using the particular medication necessary; it is not always a "stupid" decision.

Regardless of what the law says, these are not criminal offenses and do not deserve to be categorized as such.

>>9107437
White people break drug laws more than black people desu

>>9107446
>Regardless of what the law says, these are not criminal offenses

What kind of fucked up logic is this:

Regardless of the law it is not criminal???

next logical leap is:
War is peace, black is white

I am for drug legalization, but the LAW says is illegal now, so break the law and do the time.

Using drugs is NOT required to live, there are lots of LEGAL drugs doctors can prescribe for mental and physical health.

>>9107445
>Literally the height of organized crime.
[citation needed[

>>9107451
>White people break drug laws more than black people desu

Great throw their asses in the slammer.

>>9107451
Not at a high rate, though. Whites are roughly 70% of the population, if the black 13% of the population was commuting more drug offences than whites that would be astounding, slightly more astounding than the number of blacks among their population that break drug laws.

>>9107416
I was being sarcastic in regards to the guy mentioning cranial capacity = intelligence.

>>9107181
>Abo millionaires
I never heard about Abo millionaires.
>Black millionaires.
Black millionaires go to brainlet retarded professions that don't require intellect such as Sportsman, Actor, Singer, Dictator or Criminals. Obama is an exception just because Obama is half white.
>Muslim millionaires.
Few Muslims became millionaires just because Oil & Gas. Without Oil & Gas they would be poor.
>Native American Millionaires
Their Casinos are Unethical & Immoral scam.
>Pajeet millionaires.
Pajeets poo in streets. They are dirty just like their streets. Uncivilized.
>Latin American Millionaires.
Wealthier Latinos have more White ancestry blood. Poor Latinos have more Native American & Black ancestry blood.
>East Asian Millionaires.
Honorary White According to Hitler, but they are more poor than Whites on average.
>Jews.
I have to admit that Jews in USA are either. However they wealth comes from Unethical banking.

>>9107181 #
>Abo millionaires
I never heard about Abo millionaires.
>Black millionaires.
Black millionaires go to brainlet retarded professions that don't require intellect such as Sportsman, Actor, Singer, Dictator or Criminals. Obama is an exception just because Obama is half white.
>Muslim millionaires.
Few Muslims became millionaires just because Oil & Gas. Without Oil & Gas they would be poor.
>Native American Millionaires
Their Casinos are Unethical & Immoral scam.
>Pajeet millionaires.
Pajeets poo in streets. They are dirty just like their streets. Uncivilized.
>Latin American Millionaires.
Wealthier Latinos have more White ancestry blood. Poor Latinos have more Native American & Black ancestry blood.
>East Asian Millionaires.
Honorary White According to Hitler, but they are more poor than Whites on average.
>Jews.
I have to admit that Jews in USA are either. However Jewish wealth comes from Unethical banking.

>>9107459
Yes, at a higher rate. This is just one of many sources, look it up yourself.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3941346

>>9107181 # #
>Abo millionaires
I never heard about Abo millionaires.
>Black millionaires.
Black millionaires go to brainlet retarded professions that don't require intellect such as Sportsman, Actor, Singer, Dictator or Criminals. Obama is an exception just because Obama is half white.
>Muslim millionaires.
Few Muslims became millionaires just because Oil & Gas. Without Oil & Gas they would be poor.
>Native American Millionaires
Their Casinos are Unethical & Immoral scam.
>Pajeet millionaires.
Pajeets poo in streets. They are dirty just like their streets. Uncivilized.
>Latin American Millionaires.
Wealthier Latinos have more White ancestry blood. Poor Latinos have more Native American & Black ancestry blood.
>East Asian Millionaires.
Honorary White According to Hitler, but they are more poor than Whites on average.
>Jews.
I have to admit that Jews in USA are wealthier. However Jewish wealth comes from Unethical banking.

>>9107467
>Immoral and unethical means don't count (except when whites do it)

Cool story bro

>>9107467
I can't talk to you. Everything is stereotypes and generalisations. Heil Hitler

>>9107465
Wow. Huffington post is your source, huh? I see you did plenty of research on this topic, and you're really serious about finding out the truth of this issue.

Seriously though, just look at the FBI's data on drug arrests from 2013: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

0.538% drug arrest rate for whites
2.094% drug arrest rate for blacks

Blacks are arrested for drug abuse at a rate nearly quadruple the rate whites are arrested for.

>>9107460
Cranial capacity on a per-species basis. Neanderthals with a slightly larger brain than other neanderthals are slightly smarter. Humans with larger brains than other humans are smarter. You can't compare brains of two different species as such, the structure of the organ is very different between humans and neanderthals, neanderthal brains were extremely asymmetric compared to human brains for example.

>>9107498
>arrest rate
Fuck you dude. Look up any source you want on drug USAGE. Whites use drugs at a higher rate than blacks.

Did you dodge the issue on purpose?

>>9107503
How did we mate if we are different species? I'm being serious cause I'm retarded. Also can races be considered different species. I mean there are even different body types like endomorph and the like.

>>9107503
>Humans with larger brains than other humans are smarter.

https://neuroscience.stanford.edu/news/ask-neuroscientist-does-bigger-brain-make-you-smarter
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-brain-size-doesnt-correlate-with-intelligence-180947627/

>>9107508
I don't believe it is certain that we bred with neanderthal. Mating with different species is possible, but the young are generally infertile.
Homo Antecessor is our closest relative up the family tree. Their brains were 200-300 cubic centimeters smaller than ours, and the structure of their brain is unknown to my best knowledge.

>>9107518
very cute little popsci articles there anon.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2770698/
https://cbs.asu.edu/sites/default/files/PDFS/gould-science.pdf

>>9107504
Fuck you dude. How do you collect reliable data for drug usage? Surveys? With a sample size of a couple thousand that can easily be cherry picked? If I conducted a survey of 2000 people from east saint louis and an affluent rhode island suburb that survey would tell you that blacks have a drug use rate hundreds of times higher than whites. Likewise, if I conducted a survey of blacks in upper-middle class suburbia, and whites in project housing in new york, I'd find that whites and blacks use drugs at similar rates.
Surveys are bullshit. FBI crime statistics are by far the most accurate, reliable, and precise sets of data for this determination.

>>9107526
Any credible study takes this into consideration. Lots of credible studies are done via surveys, and just because you think they're shit, doesn't mean they are.

>>9107529
Credibility does not equal accuracy.

>>9107265
This is the kind of thing you never see in the MSM.

>>9107521
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2770698/
>with the majority of MRI studies reporting correlations around 0.3 or 0.4

>Results from these studies reported relatively weak although sometimes significant relationships
>sometimes

wow it's fucking nothing

>>9107265
>Doesn't change the fact that cranial volume of Sub-Saharan Africans is significantly lower
not really
> and that cranial volume positively correlates with IQ.
indeed, a correlation of 0.3 to 0.4, which is a weak correlation
if you took a math class you'd know that that amounts to 12% of variance in IQ explainable by brain size
a small difference it can account for about 2 point iq difference on average between blacks and whites

your average brain varies between 1000 and 1500, for comparison

whatever the biological component that makes the difference in iq between groups, it's not brain size
this brain size business comes from pseudoscientist rushton who thought dark skin alone makes you dumber
anyways, here i am using HIS OWN data in the picture, same conclusion
>>9107298
botswana, mauritius, bahamas,

>>9107783
forgot pic

also I dont understand OP's question really
there are black scientists - famous and lesser known

His question is why weren't there black scientists in 19th and early 20th century, when relatively easy and accessible things were being discovered - for that go ask historians

ill post some charts since this is a black IQ thread

scores based on largest representative sample of US 17 yo

>>9106124
rocket scientist--landing on the moon

>Blacks (Africans & Abos) did not developed agriculture before the contract with Europeans. They did neither grow crops nor domesticated animals.

But that's wrong, retard. Also abos=/=black

black optimal iq is 85-90
for whatever that's worth

about 90
that's enough to have scientists

blacks have fewer scientists, cuz lazy nigs thats why
go find yourself a group from any other race with iq of 90 - it's a different universe

>>9106955
look up Aztecs and Incas, right now you are sound like a nigger

>>9103313
A few hundred years ago Europe had like no black people
Europe was the first civilization to start fucking around with philosophy and science
White guys pretty much figured everything out a few hundred years ago

>>9107792
>>9107867
>>9107861
>>9107786
I don't no if you new to the thread or one guy but we've explained why this is.
>>9107202
>>9107167
Why are you ignoring the things people are saying and just continue to post outdated studies. Laced with racial bias

>>9106132
perhaps they lack creativity, that doesn't really mean they are not/less intelligent. could be a societal thing.
let's not forget also that lots of stuff came to the west from asia

>>9103313
Look at a map of the world based on IQ and the guess.

>>9103373
There were quite a lot scientists in Nazi Germany.

It is also death to anyone's career in science if they are slightly right wing, while blacks get affirmative action.

>>9107783
Think about this logically for a second, thinking occurs in the synapses in grey matter, if a brain has less grey matter, less synapses, it has less capacity to think.

>>9107710
You don't even see it in academia, one of the co-discoverers of the double helix structure of DNA lost his tenure and was stripped of academic achievements for writing a strongly factually substantiated paper on the IQ differences between race, gender, and hereditary backgrounds.

>>9108214
>Nazi Germany is racist meme
Nazis were not racist

>>9108217
>implying people even utilize the full capacity of there minds.
I'm sure we should add poor nutrition to the list of reasons most people aren't as smart as others. Imagine the shit poor people eat in africa
>>9108222
People that fight findings like that actually only hinder the people(blacks presumably) they are trying to protect. Because once we find out what is wrong and understand it. We can better their lives by fixing, working around or finding ways to heighten their intelligence. CRSPA(whatever you call it) is coming and considering how far they've gotten and what a boon it'll be for society I don't think they'll take shit from liberal.

>>9107453
Several years of joblessness = generations of poverty, disenfranchisement, fatherlessness, and systemic racism

Yeah, no.

>>9108467
Africans have been coming out of poverty very fast. Its just displaced by the extreme population growth

>>>/polddit/

>>9103373

I'm a more extreme version of a nazi, if that's what you mean by /pol/ & stormfront?

I don't care what race you are as long as you have at least an IQ of 110. Everyone else should be gassed/sterile. It just so happens certain demographics make up a majority of these people. Also, I wouldn't use IQ as a measure of intelligence. It's just a statement that anyone with an average/below average cognitive ability has no place in our rapidly advancing society.

>>9108002
I posted the charts
difference between 90 and 100 doesn't really matter for your average person
that means your average white guy has 10 points above your average black guy, which isn't much if you imagine them as two people

where it might matter is at the right and the left side of the curve

ill say it again, black problems don't stem from their IQ average - not saying they aren't genetic though

iq explains 25% of the variation in job performence - there's A LOT more to be looked at

asian women have higher iq's than white men, so what

>>9107783
>botswana, mauritius, bahamas,
Bahamas?!

>>9107783
>botswana, mauritius
Both nations COMBINED have just over 3 million people... these are not medium to large counties they are basically mico-nations/city states.

Orange county California (ONE county) has a population in excess of 10 million.

>>9108799
What did he mean by this

>>9108799

Sorry, Orange county California has about the same population of both these counties combined.

LA county California has a population of 10+ million.

>>9108816
Sorry about screwing up Orange and LA county... it has been about 15 years since I lived in California. Every young male professional should live in Southern California for a few years, unlimited hot women.

>>9108565
Then I don't understand what your getting at. You want be to just acknowledge or recognize the is a difference?
>>9108823
Doesn't help if they don't wanna touch me

>>9108851
We put way too much credence into IQ. We barely understand how the brain works, and IQ is simply a statistical tool, like BMI is for heart health.

>>9108855
Most definitely.

>be enlightened liberal
>thus frequent only /sci/
>for months there's a race thread on the front page every single day
>today it's at the top too, making it the first thread I see
>tfw slowly becoming redpilled against my will

All these comments concerning the topic and no one responds to these two post >>9104042 >>9104062 which directly answers the question.

Thread should have ended there, if you just want to bitch about blacks take it to /pol/ or /b/.

>>9108858

>>9108876
Its not bitching. Were learning and exchanging knowledge on the topic.

>>9103313
>>9108863
>>9108867
Obama became Lawyer just because his mother was a White PhD in Anthropology. She passed her PHENOTYPE genes to Obama. She was a single mom because just like most black fathers, Obama father abandoned the family. Obama grow up without his father. Obama was a Mulatto ( half white & half black)
Now liberals are conspiring to turn American White girls into single moms with Mulatto children. Just like the Obama's mom.

>>9108885

Are you? Because considering the topic's proposed question,

"Why are there no famous black scientists?"

It was answered within the first twenty posts. All subsequent comments then proceed to tackle an entirely different non-proposed question all together (why are there few famous black scientist).

What's fucked about this is by completely ignoring the two post that answer op's question the entire thread gets derailed into yet another IQ thread. Where the same information and comments are recycled again.

The learning and exchange of knowledge here is questionable at best.

>>9108891
>Obama father abandoned the family
Surprise, surprise.

>>9108946
Hopefully someone will learn that IQ isn't such a big deal. And /pol/ will give blacks some slack. But yes. Its devolved into that but intelligence and black scientists are related in a sense. Its was actually interesting to see that the whole thread wasn't just mindlessly bashing blacks that is so off on 4chan
>>9108950
Obama's mom was also a CIA prostitute so I don't blame him

>>9108855

OK... quick lesson in statistics. On average women are better cooks than men (we can all agree on this on AVERAGE). But the BEST cooks in the world are men (most professional chefs ARE men).
Just because Africans may have a lower IQ (ON AVERAGE) does not mean that that the ten smartest people (highest IQs) in the world are not ALL AFRICANS.

>>9108556
Once you gas everyone with below an IQ of 110, where do you go from there, seeing that half of your new "master race" population is below 100 again?

Spoiler alert: You'd get gassed in your own system

>>9103373

what are you talking about? most famous scientists are arrogant as fuck and support social darwinism

>>9109027
>Just because Africans may have a lower IQ (ON AVERAGE) does not mean that that the ten smartest people (highest IQs) in the world are not ALL AFRICANS.
The 10 smartest people:
Edward Witten, Terrence Tao, Stephen Hawkins, Grigori Perelman, Roger Penrose, Andrew Willis, Ruth Lawrence, Donald Knuth, Leonard Susskind, Steven Weinberg (+arguably an 11th Shinichi Mochizuki)
Error 404: Black not found.

>>9109053
Have you examined EVERY African, the ten highest IQs may be all elderly African women.

>>9109027
This.
Unfortunately they don't have a higher education or a formal one either. Most don't even understand rudementery mathematics.

They have the capacity though, such as the african sages, and all their sayings.

in all honestly though, unless they start getting educated, and have the ambition to learn and to know things (as many scientifically minded people do) then there is no way that they will ever be recognized.

Also: pop scientists are a meme. Just because you made a mega-discovery does not mean you are smart or know much. (watch as Stephen Hawkins makes a joke of himself again by telling us about AI without credentials in CS)

>>9109062
So how many black scientists can you name besides the brainlet Neil deGrasse Tyrone in the ENTIRE HISTORY OF MANKIND?
How many female scientists can you name besides the assistant of Pierre Curie.

>>9109102
Dude, I 100% agree with you, BUT are we educating enough blacks and enough women in the STEM areas that we will see their contributions.

Without a doubt white males have dominated STEM achievements.

POC are very underrepresented in major scientific achievements.

But then whites and Asians are underrepresented in the NBA (National Basketball Association).
Talents may not be equal across races.

>>9109110
>Talents may not be equal across races.
this is true.
Let people choose what job hey want to work, dont force a woman to be STEM, don't force a man to be a nurse.

The only real argument these people use for the race/IQ thing is "science is a liberal conspiracy and everyone is being censored!"

That should tell you everything you need to know.

>>9105192
Read it and the bible, it's all the same trash, it's just that even if you were raised an atheist you heard one story your whole life and so it's more familiar and less shocking.

>>9109127
>Let people choose what job hey want to work,

When a company has a DIVERSITY program it is NOT an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY program, instead it is a program to FORCE an arbitrary number underrepresented groups into the workforce.

Forced Diversity in an NBA team mean there MUST be less blacks and more whites and Asians.
Forced diversity at a software firm means there MUST be less white and Asians males.

Diversity does not equal EQUALITY of opportunity. Diversity is social engineering FORCING the workforce to be composed of the amounts of each group that someone desires.

Google director of Diversity is not there to make sure there is equality in the hiring of people, but instead there no make sure that the number POC and women is increased.

>>9105192
>Mormonism
Do they really believe that native Americans have Jewish ancestry?

>>9109138
>Forced Diversity in an NBA team mean there MUST be less blacks and more whites and Asians.
actually that will likely never happen.
IdPol has a heavy bias towards people who are not white, simply because they are "opressed", somehow.

Unfortunate that my sister bought into this trash.

>>9109141
>Do they really believe that native Americans have Jewish ancestry?

NO!.. leave it alone... Every religion is bat shit insane when you examine in scientifically.

>>9109127
What the feminists and equality mongers don't want you to know
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LRdW8xw70
>Norway is rated/touted as the most gender equal nation in the world. And its own people agree with this. Yet they still have less males in typical female jobs and less women in engineering position. The final conclusion is women just aren't interested in those positions. It has nothing to do with discrimination. But these feminists(who they themselves would rather study women studies rather than a worthwhile degree) are crying that there aren't enough women in the field. Its stupidity on another level.

>>9106132
Are you retarded? Northern europe was tribal and barbaric while the arabs and indians were constructing great societies and developing the fundamentals of algebra. It was only through a complex chain of events that Europe was caught up to speed and then started making real developments.

>>9109137
Sodomite!

>>9109043

If you had better reading comprehension, you would have noticed I stated I wouldn't use IQ as a measure of intelligence. I used IQ as an example of the minimum acceptable level of intelligence in the present. My society would be based on eugenics because I believe even myself are primitives in comparison to our future descendants. It is our evolutionary destiny to become smarter and smarter.

Current civilization allows the inferior and mediocre to survive. How long will this be allowed as society advances and those intellectually incapable of learning skills that aren't replaced by automation? We can't have parasites.

>>9103373
They would get blueballed from funding if openly racist. I know I have one who definitely hates Indians and blacks.

>>9109157
>science is a liberal conspiracy!

>>9109169
What he said is that studies about race and other factors deemed "problematic" and basically destroys someone's career. Other than that, no company wants to fund that since they would suffer a witch hunt too.
If the actual truth wasn't such a problem, people would actually fund supposedly "racist studies" so that they would actually disprove "racist" assumptions. But they don't, since it would confirm stuff that is against your retarded agenda.

>>9109182
Absolite garbage. Studies about race, genetics, and IQ are done all the time. They just don't show the data that fits your retarded conspiracy theory.

Here's a paper out of fucking Stanford from 2007 that tried to divide human populations based on genetic similarity and difference. No one lost their funding or jobs... but guess what? Such divisions don't produce what you call race

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/298/5602/2381.full

>>9109150
I made a joke, but okay, I'll bite.

> Uses IQ as a metric for intelligence
> "I don't want to use IQ as a measure of intelligence"

.

>It is our evolutionary destiny to become smarter and smarter.

Don't tell me you failed freshman bio, too...if you even made it to college, that is.

Evolution has no purpose and no inherent direction, it's a by-product of natural selection. Go ahead and make a pragmatic argument for eugenics, but don't dress up a random, meaningless, empty natural phenomenon and point to it to try and give divine weight to your argument. Our "evolutionary destiny" may just as well end in a pile of radioactive dust, or result in tube-fed tubs of lard tripping out in a fantasy land all day ala the matrix.

>Current civilization allows the inferior and mediocre to survive.

Inferior and mediocre compared to what standard? Evolutionarily, most people are very well adapted to their environment. What's the purpose of arbitrarily and artifically moving the goalposts? So we can pat ourselves on the back, then dream up some new scapegoats to explain why we can't get laid?

>>9109182
Here's another "problematic" paper that looked at race.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.10079/full

Guess it's only skin color after all!

>>9109182
Another "problematic" paper that tried to look at making discrete populations based on genetics.

http://genome.cshlp.org/content/14/9/1679.full

Guess it doesn't work after all!

>>9109191
>Apportionment of global human genetic diversity based on craniometrics and skin color
>turns out people from different regions differ on skin color and craniometrics
Are you even reading the shit you are sending here?
You look like a call center retard that is talking to so many people at one time he just sends them stuff without even checking anything.

>>9109205
Are YOU even reading?
This distribution is concordant with neutral genetic markers. Skin color shows the opposite pattern, with 88% of total variation among regions, 3% among local populations within regions, and 9% within local populations, a pattern shaped by natural selection. The apportionment of genetic diversity in skin color is atypical, and cannot be used for purposes of classification. If racial groups are based on skin color, it appears unlikely that other genetic and quantitative traits will show the same patterns of variation.

Clearly you can't read, or are trying to be willfully ignorant.

>>9109191
>>9109201
White power!

>>9109209
>retard doesn't even know what side he's cheering
Wew

>>9109208
>in this test we are looking at difference in craniometrics and skin color
>turns out skin color varies more than craniometrics and skin color
Dude, this shit is getting ridiculous.
Also, we bananas now
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/humans-share-50-dna-bananas-2482139

>>9109212
Ok, it's clear you don't understand what the paper is saying, which isn't a surprise.

If you care so much about human genetics, why not actually learn about it and educate yourself? Oh I forgot.. you think education is liberal brainwashing.

Why don't you just stay a brainlet and go back to your kiddie table containment board.

>>9109210
I'm just bumping. I don't care about the race baiting.

>>9103313
Why are there no irish or norwegian ones?

>>9109217
What ISN'T race baiting to a /pol/tard? All you do is talk about race because that's all you have. You think you're special because you have the same skin color as us, but you're a bunch of retarded conspiracy theorist with mental and emotional issues and you need to be gotten rid of.

>>9109222
Because science is gay
>>9109223
No /pol/ is misinformed and merely a tool by the Zionists to propagate racial hatred. /pol/ knowledge on the topic of racial diversity (differences) is limited to 'haha black people subhuman'. I like to tease them with reason which they always disregard and repeat the same shit the echo to each other in /pol/. Please don't associate me with them. Nice sources though. Never seen them before

>>9109191
How is this shit problematic
it shows 10-15% of genetic variation is between groups and the other 85-90% is within them (doesn't mean you can't define races)

literally known from Fst indeces

Skin color - it's prefectly possible to show the opposite pattern, since it's basically 1 gene
>>9109230
>is limited to 'haha black people subhuman'
pretty much

let's think for a second who could be targeted by this
>asians
already higher iq
>hispanics
barely different, 70% white, 30% native
>indians
do well in the US(and elsewhere)
>jews
jews are white
>muslims
not a race

blacks are a convenient target politically as well

>>9109230
it's not a "tool of the zionists", it's a (very predictable) result of SJWs and other modern "civil rights" activists being propagated by the media

>>9109222
Where is fuck is James Clerk Maxwell.
Fucking Curie and Pasteur but no Maxwell??!!!

He should be between Newton and Einstein.

>>9103373

I'm an astrophysicist who studies chemistry, geology and nuclear physics as a hobby. From experience I can tell you that there are very FEW blacks working in STEM, while the rest of them are dedicating their lives for rap music with hopes that someone will buy their mixtape and sign a label. There are but few blacks who dedicate their lives in STEM fields. which makes them the 1% of their ethnic group. Since we live in a politically correct age, nobody wants to criticise blacks for what they are, since that is seen as racism and is guaranteed to be a career ender... nobody wants to experience what happened to James Watson.

>>9109253
>do well in the US(and elsewhere)
Out of the billion or so people the top of the heap make it out of the shithole and succeed. They're the corn on top of the shit pile which doens't say much about them as a whole. Same with Nigeria (the most populous African country). First worlders are really only exposed to the cream of the crop.

>>9109253
>convenient target
In appearance they are the more distinguished so they're an easy target to point fingers at. It requires no thought at all.
>>9109259
Yeah your right. Sadly its more of a reaction to another thing that's been pushed by the Frankfurter school and Russians. cultural subversion. The lack of unity and the division being drawn among us makes us less effective as a people. We'll never be able to unite and form another revolution against the bankers who have seized the worlds economy because we're to busy fighting with each other over thinks as frivolous as Stacy can't get a job so you have to give her one.

>>9103318
LOL he isnt

>>9109267
What's wrong with following your dreams of becoming a rapper? If someone wanted to become a plumber rather than a engineer would you look down on them to? I sopose you have distain for art?

>>9103373
>Why are there no /pol/, kkk, stormfront etc scientists?
>>9105020
>Everytime someone in the scientific community has an opinion which isn't kosher, they're quickly ostracized from the scientific community. Just ask James Watson.
you can end this tread now

>>9109286

Nowhere did I say that following your dreams is wrong or should be frowned upon, what I said is that the majority of them follow that path. Their world literally revolves around "gangster" and "rap" culture. Now if 90% of a certain group decided to become all plumbers, there is a problem. Are you so ignorant not to see that?

>>9109268
Yes, yes, muh caste system meme
northern indians, dravidians, sri lankans, tamil, rich indians, poor indians all do about as well in the west

why do people always get butthurt about indians when i say this
>>9109267
you mean james watson who said things he wasn't qualified to talk about
just because he discovered the helix in 1950 doesn't mean he knew what he was talking about

also your picture is retarded
nothing would change without whites in the long run, 100-200 years everybody will move on, economical damage will be mended if white suddenly disappeared one day
Your pic is clearly made by a black obsessed American though.
It's an example of the white-black false dichotomy, as if there's two peoples in the world.
Ffs, there's not even two peoples in America anymore.

>>9109222
>Blacks
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_inventors_and_scientists
8 afro American Physicists + 3 ago American astronomers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_scientists,_inventors,_and_scholars
7 black African Physicists.
>Small European countries.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Norwegian_physicists
66 Norwegian Physicists
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Irish_physicists
63 Irish Physicists.

>>9109222 #
>Blacks
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_inventors_and_scientists
8 afro American Physicists + 3 afro American astronomers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_scientists,_inventors,_and_scholars
7 black African Physicists.
>Small European countries.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Norwegian_physicists
66 Norwegian Physicists
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Irish_physicists
63 Irish Physicists.

>>9109222
>Blacks
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_inventors_and_scientists
8 afro American Physicists + 3 afro American astronomers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_scientists,_inventors,_and_scholars
7 black African Physicists.
>Small European countries.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Norwegian_physicists
66 Norwegian Physicists
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Irish_physicists
63 Irish Physicists.

>>9109293
Jews also have an odd affinity for the arts and money hence their over representation. I read somewhere they are genetically predisposed. I sopose you have a problem with that as well? You know blacks created jazz music which in turn brought us rock and the great diversity in music that we have now. I was gonna make a point but I forgot :P

>>9109293
nice picture
egypt was white and still is - the point is white nowadays is basically a mixture between sjw and one drop rule beliefs

so don't post that picture with that text until you are ready to say muslims are white

Yo nigga, why'd you cut off my dawg Nik Tesla like dat?

>>9103320
>14:06:50
>14:06:55
>3 seconds
5, actually

>>9104062
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Emeagwali

>>9103373
literally 95% of the scientists and thinkers who lived before the 1960s could be described as a racist, kkk-member or borderline nazi by today's standards

you won't find any in the west anymore (you'll probably find a lot of them in Russia, China, Iran,...) because having opinions like that is basically carreer suicide

>>9109314

Are you kidding? Those Egyptians look as tan as Arabs, not white people.

>>9109299
Im not even going to read your shit but your image sucks dick your retarded nigger, it's like the dollar didn't lose 92% of its value in the last 100 years, your lack of knowledge about something so simple makes me sick, as if fiat was a prime example of something that maintain value.
And your dumb ass still wrote a big ass text to look like you know shit but you are a fucking retard and if you are honest in the least with your shit you are going to delete that image since it makes no fucking sense. Fuck you.

>>9109299
>Yes, yes, muh caste system meme
>northern indians, dravidians, sri lankans, tamil, rich indians, poor indians all do about as well in the west
I never mentioned the caste system you tremendous brainlet. When you have a large population, there is going to be a larger number of statistical outliers. These are the ones that are smart enough to leave their shitholes and move to first world countries. They are not at all representatives of their people.

>>9109467
>it's le outliers bro
yes, yes i bet that's why they perform as well as the chinese
nah, you are going to have to prove it's outliers that moved, because no group has ever truly displayed that.
saying 'it's just outliers' without any sort of proof is bullshit

in fact, literal former indian slaves built a nice country trinidad and tobago(juts to have nigs ruin it today, but that's a different story)
not to mention even earlier historical precedent

vast majority of times in history when some group moves, they are pretty representative
see whites outside of europe, blacks outside of africa, chinese outside of europe, white people moving around inside europe

>>9109453
Its the same everywhere. Basically nobody has moved at all in the last 100 years
>>9109467
Sadly America steals all the skilled labour from poor countries leaving them with nothing

>>9109537
You're wrong. End of argument. I don't have the patience for this.

>>9109538
what the fuck you nigger I said shit exclusively about your image what are you on about people not moving read that again reeeeeeee

>>9109027
This is assuming IQ doesn't follow the normal curve.

>>9107154
Nowaday arabs are a bit persian.

>>9106944
>you cant fucking domesticate zebras
But you actually can, unless you're a nigger, of course.
>you cant domesticate african elephants
Oh, but you can domesticate asian elephants? Even the swarthy Indians could domesticate them, and asian elephants happen to be bigger than their african counterparts. Thais did so as well.

Only niggers could inhabit a continent literally full of useful mammals and yet manage to domesticate none of them.

>>9103373
Smart people aren't partisan drones

>>9104469
They also oversaturated the Graham Bell photo so he looks negronic

>>9110185
I thought it was some black guy before readign the name

>>9106726
to ask this kind of question you must not be a nigger

>>9105054

The problem isn't that academia isn't talking about these things, it's that academic research leads to the wrong conclusions you already a priori'd with your inherent assumption of genetic or racial superiority.

Points 1 and 2: There are differences, but there's far more compelling evidence that it's not because of race or sex that it's true, which means you don't agree with it.

Points 3 to 5: Nothing to do with science. Also incredibly dependent on what you think constitutes a "best" culture or "best" religion.

Points 6 to 7: It's because you attribute any differences to race or sex (instead of something far more predictable like poverty) that it's not taken seriously.

8: "Why Nations Fail" by Daron Acemoglu and James Robinson.

9: It's also not because LGBT is a mental disease. Perhaps the myriad of reasons why a person commits suicide requires further contemplation on nuance?

>>9108858

If your intellectual position on something is so fucking flimsy that just being continually exposed to a belief different than yours changes your mind rather than an actual argument, you might as well be "red pilled".

>>9103318
OP is technically BTFO. He may not be a good scientist, but he is a famous one.

>>9103313

>poverty causes crime

hummmm so /sci/ are a bunch of elitist faggots, who could've thought?

>>9105054
1,2,3,4,5: we work with what we got. It does not matter if as a whole black, hispanic, muslim are "worse", there is always someone from those groups that is smart and is willing to work the hours and when the person presents it self we should accept them.

6,7,8,9: if you are not willing to go past the diferences of those that are helping the scientific community then you will see applied what you applied to others...

>>9105918
Africa didn't have land as suitable for cultivation as the Middle East and Europe, so they never created civilization, and so the "wealth" of Africa wasn't valuable. Its like having furniture without a house.

>>9111417

Africa does have suitable land for cultivation. The problem is a lot of people treat Africa (or sub-sahara Africa whichever you choose) as if it was a singular country governed by a singular government when it is obviously not. So you have examples of good farming land in a couple of countries on one side of the continent while you have valuable minerals and oil on the other and the lack of infrastructure/ mature nation to nation unions inhibiting itself.

There is also clearly a precedent for civilization in both the past (pre-colonial) and present mostly focused in Egypt, Nigeria and Ethiopia. Most people only pay attention to Egypt.

>>9103313
Do you really need to know the answer to this op?

>>9106958
>Europeans never conquered Arabs
>what is the holy roman empire

>>9111995
More than half there territories can be considered non-white

>>9111995
Roman Empire conquered Egyptians & Jews. Not Arabs or Persians. Egyptians were Greek-Roman White.
Arabs invaded Egypt & raped the Greek-Roman white women living in Nile turning them into Mohammeds, Ahmeds & Abduls.

>>9109299
>Yes, yes, muh caste system meme
>northern indians, dravidians, sri lankans, tamil, rich indians, poor indians all do about as well in the west

But dravidians and other indian ethnic groups are not sub-saharan africans.

>>9103313
ask them

>>9112685
Kys

>>9105733
no one said he did

>>9109148
he never stated otherwise, ya tard

>>9112658
Yeah that's because they were conquered...

By europeans... like I just said in the post you replied to

>>9103373
The Nazis had plenty of scientists. They just can't compare to the jewish one who was about to blow their shit up

>>9105918
>Implying Egypt isn't part of africa

>>9105733
He says questioning genetic intelligence is not racism, nothing about his beliefs about race. If you found out there were genetic differences between races that led to differences in IQ simply stating that would already be racism.

Better question: Why were there no gay scientists?

>>9113506
Alan Turing was gay.

>>9113506
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:LGBT_scientists

>>9113590
ur gay

>>9103606
they are left leaning because they typically depend on government grants and need big government with big tax revenue. job security

>>9109222
uh Hamilton? he invented quaternions which required a massive leap in imagination

>>9113353
Did you see my pic? Stop stealing the accomplishments of others
>>9113590
I loved how they thanked his accomplishments with the title of homo

>>9109222
William Rowan Hamilton
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Rowan_Hamilton
> Irish physicist, astronomer, and mathematician, who made important contributions to classical mechanics, optics, and algebra. His studies of mechanical and optical systems led him to discover new mathematical concepts and techniques. His best known contribution to mathematical physics is the reformulation of Newtonian mechanics, now called Hamiltonian mechanics. This work has proven central to the modern study of classical field theories such as electromagnetism, and to the development of quantum mechanics. In pure mathematics, he is best known as the inventor of quaternions.
Name just one Black Mathematician. Just one. Pro tip: You can't. Think twice before insult Irish people.