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Hello /sci/,

I was hoping we could have a discussion on the current state of medical science when it comes to conditions like "chronic pain" and its relevance given the human condition as we know it today (impulsive, instant gratification-seeking, unable to claim personal responsibility, etc...). I don't intend this post to be of a political nature but it will likely lean towards that direction since it will be a commentary of sorts on healthcare as well.

As you may or not be aware, Fibromyalgia is psychological condition where an individual experiences widespread pain and increased sensitivity to said pain. Research has shown that there are absolutely no observable markers that would explain the presence of said pain. Absolutely nothing. On paper, these people are completely normal. This may be hard to believe, but the Fibromyalgia diagnosis is more common in women than men by about a ratio of 9:1. It's commonly agreed upon by those "in the know" that these conditions are normal side effects of leading a stressed, sedentary, and obesity or poor diet. The issue is that the healthcare system around the world is generally unable to acknowledge this and engages in the cycle of unwarranted diagnoses, unwarranted prescriptions, and unwarranted surgeries.

Do you have any idea just how much "chronic pain" or "chronic back pain" cases comprise workers compensation? How about social security/disability? Can you imagine how much of a drag these self-inflicted conditions can have on systems like the NHS? Where people just coast doctor to doctor, appointment to appointment, seeking treatment for something that can easily be corrected through a barbell and a modicum of effort?

part 1.

>> No.9043199

>>9043178
Just a question, how old are you?

Assuming something doesn't exist just because medicine hasn't pinpointed its cause/markers is extremely naive.

I could have agreed with you a few years ago but having been diagnosed with NDPH two years ago (at 19 years old, now finishing pure math undergrad) let me tell you: you don't know shit. I've had a constant headache for a couple of years to the point of really not remembering what is being completely pain free.

Modern medicine can only help you with acute pain, doctors have no fucking clue about chronic pain, specially if it is primary. At most they help you manage pain to a tolerable level.

inb4 seek medical help
> 3 neurologists
> several dietary/lifestyle changes
> meditation
> acupuncture
> began exercising

>> No.9043216

>>9043178
Well you could work up to be a neurologist and find out yourself.

>> No.9043223

>>9043199
>Assuming something doesn't exist just because medicine hasn't pinpointed its cause/markers is extremely naive.
I'm sure ancient doctors said the same to people who rejected the idea of humors.

>> No.9043245

>>9043223
Are you actually assuming we have complete knowledge of medicine?

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>>9043178
Probe Uranus

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>>9043178
Bump

>> No.9043257

>>9043245
OP is mostly a dingus here, but I am really curious about that 9 to 1 gender ratio in fibromyalgia diagnoses, if that is correct.

>> No.9043272

>>9043257
It is true. I could tell you why but it's probably too red pilled of an answer for a blue board.

>> No.9043279

>>9043245
No. I only suggest that new knowledge does not always confirm old speculation.

>> No.9043289

How would one know if they had fibromyalgia?

>> No.9043300

>>9043256
She actually looks kinda sad

>> No.9043336

>>9043279
My point still stands.

>Assuming something doesn't exist just because medicine hasn't pinpointed its cause/markers is extremely naive.

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>>9043178 >>9043256

bump

>> No.9043379

4chan needs a health board for medical stuff

>> No.9043393

My mom has fybromyalgia and neither drugs nor exercise could fix it.
The only solution seems to be me getting a job.

>> No.9043657

>>9043178
>chronic pain

No such thing. There's only "acute pain". Medical "professionals" will give you pain killers for that knife stuck in your thigh instead of pulling it out and healing you. Shit, they won't even use terminology like "healing" or "cure" is respect to actually getting things fixed.

>> No.9044148

>>9043379
>4chan needs a health board for medical stuff
No, Americans just need to get universal healthcare so they can easily go see a doctor instead of posting 'what's wrong with me?' on /sci/

>> No.9044240

>>9044148
Sounds like you missed the point of this thread. This is precisely why we shouldn't have universal healthcare.