/sci/ - Science & Math

>>8977933
this guys a fucking crackpot moron. He believes in gravity

Not in the traditional sense he doesn't man!

they got everyone fooled.

>>8978543
bumping

genuinely interested in electromagnetic theory and Aether.

>>8977933
How surprising. A guy who doesn't understand gravity also doesn't understand electricity.

>>8977933
If the earth is flat then why are night and day swapped on opposite sides of the planet?

>>8977955
has anyone told this guy the earth isn't negatively charged?

>>8979894
If you're interested in electromagnetic theory study the Maxwell eqs don't listen to some crackpot on youtube. Or even better learn GR.

>>8979894
Look up a man named "Ken Wheeler", he has a free ebook about magnetism and HUNDREDS of videos with experiments involving magnetism. The only downside to him is that he tends to be egotistical and repetitive from having to explain to the average youtuber how magnets work.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KooPsEE7E-Q

this one is really cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9S3ikiL3Ow

>>8981656
This man is a complete moron.

>>8981656
Yaa I checked him out, as well as the Joe Cell, among other zero point and aether field generators.


I'm just in need of a hands on how to and if one can create highly efficient and portable energy source,, it'd blow the lid off much of modern quantum theories.

>>8981656
>"Ken Wheeler", he has a free ebook
I just downloaded it, it's like 230 pages of time cube tier retardation.

Literally all matter has electrons, electrons are 100% known to be attracted to the earth. electrons originate from the earth, and so does matter, common guys, BASICS. study electron mobility and electrical mobility "Electrical mobility is the ability of charged particles (such as electrons or protons) to move through a medium in response to an electric field that is pulling them." notice its a force equation... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_mobility

>>8983840
>electrons are 100% known to be attracted to the earth
So? All matter is attracted to lowest points in gravitational fields.

>electrons originate from the earth, and so does matter.
????

"gravitational fields" are an unproven myth, on the other hand, electromagnetic fields are very well verified and identifiable. All matter is made of charged particles, its pretty obvious actually when you think about it instead of always trying to insert the notion of gravity into everything.

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/in-am-electrical-generator-where-do-the-electrons-come-from.12929/

In the case of a generator which does not have a return line, electrons are "pumped" from the ground to elevated potentials by the generator. The conductors then transport electrons and energy to a load, where the electrons then return to ground, returning the energy gained at the generator. If the generator is not connected to a "earth" ground then the return path must provided. In this case electrons are simply "pushed" through the circuit by the generator. Isolated circuits must have a means of moving electrons or a source of electrons. The source can be a chemical reaction as in a battery or a atomic change in state as in a Photovoltaic cell. Do not get the idea that only electrons can be current carriers, in ionic solutions the ions, both positive and negative can be current carriers.

Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/in-am-electrical-generator-where-do-the-electrons-come-from.12929/

Do not feed flat Earth troll shitposters.
Report, hide and move on.
Sage goes in every field.

Electrons originate from the earth: "In the case of a generator which does not have a return line, electrons are "pumped" from the ground to elevated potentials by the generator. The conductors then transport electrons and energy to a load, where the electrons then return to ground, returning the energy gained at the generator. If the generator is not connected to a "earth" ground then the return path must provided. In this case electrons are simply "pushed" through the circuit by the generator. Isolated circuits must have a means of moving electrons or a source of electrons. The source can be a chemical reaction as in a battery or a atomic change in state as in a Photovoltaic cell. Do not get the idea that only electrons can be current carriers, in ionic solutions the ions, both positive and negative can be current carriers."

Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/in-am-electrical-generator-where-do-the-electrons-come-from.12929/

How do globe earthers explain this?

>>8984264
Birds require energy to keep themselves from falling.

>>8984264
Gravity pulls things into a ball.
Neutron stars are so dense that they are almost perfectly spherical.
Black holes are so dense that they ARE perfectly spherical.

And you're so dense that your logic is circular.

>>8983840
>electrons and matter come from Earth
And space and everywhere else in the universe

>force equation
It's not an acceleration it's a velocity

None of this has to do with the atmosphere because most of the atmosphere isn't charged. If current really were flowing freely at all levels in the atmosphere, we could attach balloons to a wire and have infinite energy. Clearly bullshit

So is electric field basically force at s distance or not? What is the field made of, if it exists? Or is it just an abstraction to make it easier to see how the electrical force would act?

"Characteristics of atmospheric electricity

The earth is negatively charged, and a charge equal to 500,000 Coulomb electric charge. Potential difference is the value of the 300,000 volt (300 kV), if we consider the voltage between the positively charged ionosphere and the Earth's surface. There is also a constant current of electricity, of the order of 1350 amperes (A), and the resistance of Earth's atmosphere is about 220 ohms. This gives an output power of about 400 megawatts (MW), which is regenerated by solar activity. This affects the capacity of the earth's ionosphere and to lower layers, which causes a thunderstorm. The electrical energy that is stored and is stored in the earth's atmosphere is about 150 gigajoules (GJ). The system of "Earth-ionosphere" acts as a giant capacitor whose capacitance is 1.8 Farad. Given the huge size of the surface area of the Earth, 1 square meter of surface accounts for only 1 nC electric charge." http://electricity-automation.com/en/electricity/10

>>8977933
Relative Density
Ex: Blimps and Submarines
Pic related

>>8984529
E=mc2
Energy = mass
c = time
*Double slit experiment shows that energy and matter are the same thing.

>>8984536
Jesus christ.

I hope you're trolling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H1EgVzFMDo
Gravity debunked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H1EgVzFMDo

A whole HOUR of nasa's sloppy production values, yet there's now swarms of 'flat earth debunked' videos being uploaded every day, sure is a lot of effort to correct this obvious flat earfer idiocy, huh?
Just look on youtube, I'm sure you can clear this whole thing up quickly with another fallacious, regurgitated example of curvature.

>>8984585
NASA stole my link!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzyPN8-AbJQ

>>8984242
Hi shills, glad you decide to post this in every thread

>>8984283
>Gravity pulls things into a ball.
>Neutron stars are so dense that they are almost perfectly spherical.
>Black holes are so dense that they ARE perfectly spherical.

I dare you to show me physical proof of any of this.

>>8984330
electrical fields are detectable and can be manipulated.

>>8984270
their bodies are less dense than the surrounding air, as hollow bone wings spread surface tension

Sci can someone explain this to me. I was totally against flat earth even after read 200 proofs
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html

but this video, what is going on?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLlNKy5j_O8

>>8984791

>>8985677
>How did I become a crackhead?
>I tried crack.

>>8977933
>ground is a magical point which electricity seeks
OP, please stop spreading this fucking bullshit
it's so hard to deprogram it from freshmen

t. circuits TA

How do flat earthers explain how you can travel in one direction and end up back at the starting position?

I'm going to bed, so I'm not googling that shit

>>8977933

This guy does a good video talking about earth spin fallacy

https://youtu.be/vbHI8ezKgjE

>>8985854
The flat ground is curved around itself.
Freakin brainlet

Sound waves are the oscillation of air, wind is when air moves. Light waves are oscillation of the photonic aether, and magnetism are when the photons move. What you have been told about photons are a lie, the truth is, the aether is the electromagnetic field of earth and its quanta is photons. "We have now to show that the properties of the electromagnetic medium are identical with those of the luminiferous medium." -Maxwell

>>8985873
>Engineer
>Doesn't even understand relative motion.
This is fucking embarrassing to watch.

>>8981633
the flat earth wiki is a fucking warehouse of KEKS

>>8985677
Why are flat-earthers beginning to sound like your typical atheist?
>lol i became an atheist when i red the bible xD

>>8986099
>the round earth wiki is a fucking warehouse of KEKS

>>8984324
What do you think Tesla was working own. This is what they don't want you to know

>>8985811
>artistic rendition
>>8985816
10/10 post. I'd buy you a drink if I could
>>8986015
In his defense grade 9 was a very long time ago

>>8977933
>the metric system is a scam
Nobel Prize incoming

>>8985873
Planes don't move relative to the ground. They move relative to the air.

>>8984791
You can build a fucking Cavendish apparatus yourself and test it, you fucking trilobite.

So, question for flat earthers/gravity deniers, what system makes it so that I can pull out my phone, open up Google maps, and have it pinpoint me down to ±5 meters?

And where do meteorites come from? Why do they come in at random angles, and not more around any particular feature in the flat earth model?

>>8977933
Huh. Just got done reading a few flat Earth articles online. Odd coincidence.

>>8984264
The birds are actually moving through matter anchored to the earth similar to a whale moving through water.

>>8986109
Great scientific response, I'm asking for an explanation for this, it can't be a mirage since it's not inverted

>pizza earth constantly accelerating "upwards"
>satellites not raining down on us without constant propulsion

>>8986268
Android
And android works on a flipped Earth.
Proof?
You did use it, so there is your proof.

>>8986684

What confuses you here? Astronauts goofing around?

>>8985677
>but this video, what is going on?
it's clearly explained in the video.
three facts ignored by flat earthers here:
1. At that distance, the skyline is only visible under special conditions. If the earth were flat you'd see it all the time, but it's so rare that it makes the news.
2. You still can't see the lower parts of those buildings.
3. The buildings are stretched vertically, which is typical for this type of refraction.

FLAT EARTH PHYSICS PART 2 ENJOY : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVTtqoW--fM

>>8986711
can you provide proof of satellites? No?
Thats what I thought.

>>8984639
Attempting to sage their way to a safe space. ...huh? Is that a pun...

>>8986913

>>8977955
lol'd irl. This might be the dumbest thing I've seen all month.

>>8986913
Explain GPS

real satallites are suspended by ballons

>>8984283
Made me laugh

>>8984529
The only reason that picture works is because of gravity. In a micro gravity environment, they'll mix with little effort. Density only matters in the presence of the effects of gravity or acceleration.

>>8987319
No, not really. Then it wouldn't be a satellite, would it? It would be a balloon payload.

Here's the deal: there are three types of Flat Earthers who regularly post to 4Chan: assholes who troll for spite, asshole intellectuals who troll to test your knowledge and debate skills, and literal Bible interpreters (LBIs). They all have the freedom to make shit up (lie) because truth and understanding are not their goals, and they end the arguments with "prove me wrong." This nefariously places the onus on you to spend your precious life's time to provide information already available that they haven't and won't consider. By disavowing any science or proofs put forward and continuing to make shit up, they "win" by eroding your patience. It is simply impossible to keep up with having to explain away the barrage of violations on the most basic principles of geometry, math, science, and logic.

They aren't interested in critical thinking, refuse to put in the requisite effort to do the science, are blind to 3D visualization, and regularly refuse to respond when they can't fabricate anything that would pass even their own red-faced test. LBIs concentrate on believing what their leaders tell them while ironically calling you a "sheeple," and will not allow any sense to mar their fractured perception of the universe. They believe their interpretation of the Bible is flawless, and are actually trying to save your soul. The trolls will simply post sillier arguments and regularly resort to insults and taunts often implying or accusing you of being complicit in conspiracies to keep you posting.

In any case, there is simply no arguing. Like trying to paint over mud, you just end up with a dirty brush.

real satellite launchs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfsBpwy2DhA

nasa space dreams come crashing down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO0VKtFmJ0M

>>8987370
You can call them satellites if you want. It only helps reinforce the fact that you're ignorant, and adamantly so.
Like this guy, pic attached.

>>8987370
>Balloons exist.
>Therefore space isn't real.
Jesus fucking Christ.