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8913038 No.8913038[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Why is /pol/ migrating to this board? You already have your homeboard, why not fight for it instead of tainting /sci/ and bringing the shills and redditors here? Your only hurting other boards with your increased presence so why not do the denizens of this board a solid and keep politics out of the scientific board.

>> No.8913039

Because it's the only board that poses a genuine threat.

>> No.8913047

>>8913039
A threat to what?

>> No.8913056

>>8913047
disinformation and propaganda

>> No.8913059

>>8913038
Anyone who isnt an idiot knows what is happening, and knows that there's no point in complaining.

The fact that /sci/ actually has genuinely intelligent people posting on it will serve to be enough of a defense against the stupidity of /pol/.

Every now and then some idiot comes in and posts some shit about how global warming isnt real and gets shot to shit, it's pretty funny honestly.

>> No.8913065

>>8913059
I'd like to believe that, but what do you think happens when you put a genius in a sea of idiots? Does the genius adapt? Or does it drown?

Judging by what I've seen the past few weeks, we're already being drowned out. Whoever has the loudest voice typically controls the flow of discourse from my experience.

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8913095

Perhaps someone here can tell me whether or not men are naturally stronger than women? I've always held this to be true but some stupid shit is happening at my university where this dude is getting called out for saying women are genetically inferior to men. What he's actually said is that men are better able to acquire more strength, which I've had explained to me and agree with although I've done no reading of my own on it. When I google this I get huffpo and odyssey articles '14 BADASS facts about women's strength' and it just kind of looks like a circle jerk.

If i can fuck off back to /fit/ lemme know.

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8913138

Honestly, I'm just a /pol/ack who also enjoys posting on /sci/.

I try to keep the /pol/ stuff out of /sci/, but sometimes I just can't help myself.

>> No.8913145

>>8913065
This isnt society, there are no social pressures here to conform to.

It idiots want to be isiots they can be, the actual quality discussion on /sci/ will always be here. People here talk about legitimate science shit, you can tell the threads when you see them, and if some idiot comes in screaming "global warming isnt real nigger jews 9/11" they will be either ignored, or converse with people who arent involved with the quality discussion to begin with.

>> No.8913191

>>8913038
Because nothing makes pseuds feel smart like thinking their retarded ideas are "scientific" and the easiest way to do that is to post them on a science board.

>> No.8913705

>>8913038

It's because of Bill Nye's sex junk and social marxist propaganda trying to invade Science.

>> No.8913707

>>8913095

Of course they are, men have 10 times more testosterone than women on average.

>> No.8913711

>>8913038
Because you're a shilling retard from the match against trump discord who's posting threads like these everywhere. Fuck off, this is not a board for political discussion.

>> No.8913727

>>8913038

They need validation.

>> No.8913732

Just ignore the threads? Lol like wtf don't open them

>> No.8913736

because pol's population is growing fast and bringing in new members at a rate that makes old /b/ look like an add in the back of a porno magazine

there's always going to be spillover with newfriends

just my guess

>> No.8913737

/pol/ is trying to kick out T_D and they're spreading everywhere else, they don't know what they started when they tried to get their cheeto-god elected

>> No.8913741

>>8913038
It cant possibly be that scientists or people interested in science have right wing views, or that open scientific discussion is considered a right wing activity these days? No... No. Must be those nazi bogeymen again...

>> No.8913744

>>8913741

Yeah man pol really brings in a lot intellectually stimulating discussions.

>> No.8913746

We are the only board on this entire website that can easily shoot down all the bullshit that /pol/ spews as we see in the daily threads related to global warming race or whatever else. They would love if this board did not exist. We are knowledgeable and intelligent and they don't like that.

>> No.8913751

>>8913744
They do, was a good thread yesterday about the various functions of the prefrontal cortex and its direct correlation to predisposition to violent crime. Otherwise we have "ai when" threads non stop and meme drive posting.

>> No.8913752

>>8913751

Cherry pick all you want.

>> No.8913753

>>8913746
> shoot down race
Yet every racial differences thread ends with a pol win. Im not even pol but you see /sci/ get mad, then beaten, then leave.

>> No.8913756

>>8913752
Well thats pretty much the only /pol/ input i see, other than bill nye shit. Global warming/flat earth threads have been here for years, longer than /pol/'s big explosion.

>> No.8913790

>>8913741
>It cant possibly be that scientists or people interested in science have right wing views
Generally, no they don't.

>> No.8913793

>>8913753
Literally never happens. /sci/ gets bored beating a dead horse and leaves.

>> No.8913796

>>8913038
It's not /pol/ you stupid dildo. It's CTR and Crew (people paid to shill here). Some of us just have a strong and outspoken opinion. Make that ALL of us

>> No.8913815

>>8913790
In my experience they do. Reality has a right wing bias.

>> No.8913822

>>8913815
good thing life isn't dependent on your experience

go look up any statistic about political leanings in science

>> No.8913834

>>8913822
Probably because universities spend more time propogating left wing social ideology than they do actual subject material. My medical degree had about 4 hours every week of pure left wing political indoctrination, the only lectures that were mandatory to attend at that. Only made me and a few other doctors i know right wing where before we were indifferent.

>> No.8913841

>>8913753
posting debunked data from richard lynn, rushton and unknown bloggers over and over again is not winning anything

even on the topic of race, you guys are completely retarded

not to mention global warming

>> No.8913844 [DELETED] 

The only time I ever hear about them is when you make a post about something needing to be done about them. I see threads pop up on all the boards about "WE NEED TO PUT OUR FOOT DOWN AND STOP THIS MENACE" but you're the only ones making off-topic threads everywhere like it's your mission in life.

It's all in your imagination.

>> No.8913847 [DELETED] 

When social studies starts calling itself social science and makes an assertion, it creates an equal and opposite reaction. If you want one to leave, the other must leave as well.

>> No.8913850

>>8913844
>>8912947
daily

>> No.8913859

>>8913850
OH NO AFRICANS WILL STOP DYING TO RANDOM DISEASES AND DEVELOP THEIR CONTINENT WITH EDUCATION.
OH NO HOW DO WE STOP THEM

>> No.8913863

>>8913850
That is a genuine matter of interest for anyone cognizant of global warming. If we're to discuss man-made climate change, it would behoove us to take into account the industrialization of a continent well on its way to exceeding its Malthusian ceiling. Your attempts to blacklist that discussion are a confession of willful ignorance.

>> No.8913865

>>8913841
> lynn
> debunked
Keep hearing that but oddly the only argument being "iq tests arent cross culturally valid!"

>> No.8913867

>>8913863
They'll develop sustainably from the ground up so they won't contribute to global warming that fast. Africans provably believe in climate change unlike Americans.
The only ones consuming resources and contributing to global warming at the speed of light is America and other climate change deniers.

>> No.8913872

>>8913834
You're full of shit.

>> No.8913875

>>8913834
>My medical degree had about 4 hours every week of pure left wing political indoctrination
What do you define as "left wing political indoctrination"?

>> No.8913878 [DELETED] 

>>8913867
Why are you telling me this? There's a perfectly good thread full of interested parties at the destination of your link. See how the topic generates discussion? And here you were thinking it was just an excuse for people to say the N word. You must feel like a fool to realize that was a projection of your deep-seated racism.

>> No.8913882

>>8913875
Lectures on how unfair social distribution of wealth and housing is responsible for most disease, lectures on """health equality""", migrant health, social structures causing diabetes, obesity and smoking and how people dont have enough money to look after themselves. Then we even had an entire aids week in which every single fictional case study was a straight white male. There was one even worse seminar series but i cant remember the details seen as after an opening lecture just being some old lesbian having a go at bankers for half an hour i elected to not pay any more attention again.

>> No.8913883 [DELETED] 

>>8913872
I'm going to assume you're
>>8913850

If anyone here is guilty of low-brow demeanor it's you. If you can't reply to that man without profanity then you have no dignity. Tell him how he's wrong, expand on what he's saying, or stick to what you know.

>> No.8913887

>>8913872
Not at all, and i can guarantee if it was that bad for my degree in 2010 it will be worse now and for other subjects. I bet every uni lecture opens and closes with a "drumpf" joke now.

>> No.8913892

>>8913882
I should add we had a mechanism to monitor course attendance and sporadic lectures would be registered, however almost no systems or pathophysiology would ever be registered, it was always the "public" health ones. You had to attend those, whereas learning to be a good doctor was optional.

>> No.8913897

First off, let's not try to pretend that /sci/ was ever less than 75% crap. Gorilla thread, religion thread, gorilla thread, space thread, race bait thread, gorilla thread, math homework thread, etc.
Second, the lefties are invading your science, that's observable with Shill Nye the your kids are gay guy. You're going to need /pol/, odious as they may be. It's not like you don't already spend your life filtering out idiots and their opinions.
Third, >>8913736. We've been on the news a bunch. Did you see the French news spot a day or two ago with the quick rundown picture and the skinny french girl OC pasta? Shit was cash, almost as good as pepe on Hillary's website.

The shit's hilarious, just run with it.

>> No.8913924

>>8913882
>I wanna be a doctor but I don't want to learn about the socioeconomic factors of disease
As I suspected, it's not so "political indoctrination," it's just stuff you don't want to hear/care about. Sounds like these public health lectures weren't actually graded except based on attendance either. I'll let the rest of /sci/ tear you apart.

>> No.8913929

>>8913815
>Reality has a right wing bias.
It really doesn't. Reality is based on consistency and logic. Conspiracy theories and butthurt don't really gel with that.

>> No.8913951

>>8913924
No they were disproportionately in examination in the first two years too. Nor do i not care about social circumstances, i worked a year in substance abuse - however i take a realistic view of it and social circumstances do not explain many things nor are they an excuse and most of all it is not the place of medicine to try bring down the health of the wealthy. I dont care about immigrantion promotion nor language services etc. None of it is relevant to medicine, it is pure social engineering and im far from the only doctor who resents it.

>> No.8913954

>>8913929
Logic and open investigation absolutely dont gel with left wing approaches.

>> No.8913957

I used to actively post on /pol/ and just lurk /sci/. Don't post much on /sci/ but I stopped going to /pol/ altogether now. It's become a dogmatic hugbox over the last two years and any dissent, regardless of how logical it is, gets you labeled a shill or whatever the fuck shareblue is. I am neither a Jew nor did I vote for Hillary, but apparently not believing certain blatant lies or criticizing irresponsible actions means I'm both. I like that /sci/ shuts down irrational arguements without having to resort to memes outside of "brainlet" here and there.

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>>8913954
>Logic and open investigation
Lol is this nigga serious

>> No.8913975

>>8913964
I think he's talking about lefties ignoring facts if they don't align with their narrative. The simple fact is, we're not all equal, nor are cultures or lifestyles. You should be invested in this, as science and research can't flourish in certain social environments. Like Africa, for example.

>> No.8913977

>>8913957
I just like telling anyone to go back to /pol/ if they say anything remotely right wing, because it upsets them

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>>8913977
Find your sin.

>> No.8913988

>>8913975
Exactly, the modern left is made up of same mental archetype as the worst witch burning christians.

>> No.8913990

>>8913975
>>8913977
>>8913988
>retard conservatives think any of these are the left
Just because /pol/ screams "muh libshits" at anything they don't like doesn't make it true

>> No.8914015

>>8913990
Scientists tend to left leaning politically because of the way they get their money. There are so many middlemen between their work and its application and subsequent profit that what they get tends to resemble gibs. They need to get paid regardless of results, so they can continue their work to get results. More welfare type programs are good for scientists, who need to eat too.

>> No.8914021

>>8913990
I'm sorry but the politicians pushing this agenda are leftist, their supporters are leftist, ergo this is the left.

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>>8913865
the argument is lynn is a fraud that cherry picked studies

he excluded studies not based on whether they were representative, but whether the result fit his paradigm

>> No.8914030

>>8913975
>I think he's talking about lefties ignoring facts if they don't align with their narrative
You're a fucking retard. BOTH sides do this, and it's far more egregious of the right, since science typically runs afoul the conservative agenda on many different fronts.

>> No.8914037

>>8914030
Really not true, the left is bound to try force a way of the world that is contrary to reality and would put a stop to progress and investigation.

>> No.8914039

>>8913975
>>8914021

>The simple fact is, we're not all equal, nor are cultures or lifestyles.
This is not a "leftist" idea. "All men are created equal" is one of the core concepts on which the United States---where most of the world's scientific research is conducted---was founded. You may disagree with it, but it's not a political issue here.

>> No.8914049

>>8914037
Prove it. Back up your claim with solid evidence. This is not /pol/.

>> No.8914050

>>8914030
I think you're mistaking a profit-based agenda for a conservative one. Oil men don't want to acknowledge global warming. Oil men have been backing the elephant side for a while. The gender bullshit is an actual conservative point, they seek a return to the nuclear family that created the social stability that helped us get to the moon. How many trannies walked on the moon? Almost none, I bet.

>> No.8914053

>>8914039
What they meant was all white men. Remember that whole three fifths thing?

>> No.8914056

>>8914039
equal rights are bad, you see, because there are small race differences here and there(on average lol), we need to focus on race, race, race - the individual does not matter

ignore the fact that simple poor people can have very smart kids which should be given the opportunity to excel
>>8912861
a news story from this week
this kid would never get his degrees if /pol/ had their way

>> No.8914062

>>8914056
That kid would face the tribunal and be admitted as an honorary hwiteu mannu, provided he engaged in no niggotry or faggotry. He would have the blondest of the judges' daughters to choose as his wife, to most quickly blanche the swarthy remnants of his shameful ancestry.

>> No.8914065

>>8913951
Again, it's not political indoctrination, it's just a reality that you don't care about/want to deal with. It's entirely appropriate for something that has a large impact on health to be a part of a healthcare curriculum. If you have some studies that show that socioeconomic conditions are irrelevant to a person's health status, I'm sure we'd all love to see them.

Now, if your school was telling you "to try bring down the health of the wealthy" then you should definitely report them to someone since that's a clear violation of the Hippocratic oath. But it sounds more like simple raving fueled by your political persecution complex, so I don't expect you to do anything.

>> No.8914068

>>8914039
>All men are created equal
all men are created equal is pretty different from all men are equal or the cultural relativistic crap all cultures and lifestyles are equal. i'm pretty confident they weren't cultural relativists.

>> No.8914075

>>8914050
>I think you're mistaking a profit-based agenda for a conservative one.
Then you don't know what the word "conservative" means. But extending beyond that, the broader right wing falls for these obvious scams hook, line, and sinker, to the point where they believe that there is a giant science conspiracy to... force communism on people or something.
>The gender bullshit is an actual conservative point
First of all, the gender bullshit is only of relevance to social scientists. Second of all, the most prominent transwoman in the world is a registered Republican and was invited to the Trump inauguration.

>> No.8914082

>>8914049
You gave no evidence, strange double standards you moron.. Im not even /pol/

>> No.8914092

>>8914039
No, it is a leftist idea that all people SHOULD be equal. Its an american idea that all people have same equal rights as a person, what they achieve with that is on them.

>> No.8914096

>>8913038
Because /pol/ has the highest IQ of all boards. Stay fucking jelly you leftist fuck

>> No.8914101

>>8913882
This is what happens when you don't study science

>> No.8914103

>>8914065
No its indoctrination because it isnt backed up by research and nor evident in practice. Every day i see ill people who have only and entirely themselves to blame. No rubbish about an obsegenic environment.

Nor is the hippocratic oath still in effect, do some basic research. A limited fund organisation works on targeted harm and benefit and thank god ive gone private because the system is designed at every step to disadvantage the well off. Lets not forget the great time the med school let the labour medics society (left wing) take over the year yearly ball and give politicised speeches complaining about our government. Of course they sold no tickets the next two years

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>>8914082
You want evidence that this is not /pol/? Or would you like evidence that the Right denies science when it doesn't fit their worldview? Either way, there is ample proof.

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>>8914096

>> No.8914126

>>8914112
No i dont want any, hence not asking seen as we can both find plenty of instances of individuals preventing research. Although, a tweet, sort yourself out. The left establishes a post modernist, anti-enlightment world view in which reason is secondary to subjectivity and man's ability to exert himself in the world is derided and shamed. The left has always done as much, when they called themselves the church or beyond when holding onto tribalism, their hatred of the individual, his rights, property and potential has always impeded.

>> No.8914128

>>8913095
>men are naturally stronger than women?
Nobody disputes that.
>this dude is getting called out for saying women are genetically inferior to men.
See, that's something completely different, and makes you an asshole.

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>>8914096
>Blacked thread
>Cuckold thread
>Is racemixing wrong?
>Nigger hate thread
>Potato nigger hate thread

i've seen more mentally stimulating discussions on /tv/

>> No.8914137

>>8914128
Yeah, not who you're arguing with but ive heard plenty of people argue women are just as strong, its just different activities that result in the difference. Very bizarre.

>> No.8914140

>>8914131
> AI any time soon?
> do my homework for me
> can em drive help me meet aliens

Summed up today and tomorrow's /sci/ for you

>> No.8914145

>>8914131
>R: 7▶
Would a penis stay hard if it were severed by a lightsaber?

>> No.8914147

>>8914140
not really it'd be more like
>is global warming a scam?
>if the earth isn't flat then why...
>scientific evidence for white genocide

>> No.8914150

>>8914147
The flat earth troll threads have been around for years and before any "pol invasion", want to ask me how i know you're a newfag?

>> No.8914151

>>8914103
>No its indoctrination because it isnt backed up by research and nor evident in practice.
Typing "socioeconomic factors in disease" into google scholar gets almost 2 million papers. I won't pretend to understand the contents---my field is EE---but browsing the titles, it seems there's a lot of papers linking socioeconomic status to heart disease. Maybe you could tell me why they're bullshit, instead of giving me some anecdotal crap about what you "see every day."

And any medical school in the US requires grads to take some form of Hippocratic oath. I don't know what sort of diploma mill you went to------
>labour
Oh. You're not from the States, are you? I was wondering how someone so dense could become a doctor.

>> No.8914166

>>8914151
I never once said diseases cant have strong social causes, inexpressed some of those we are taught do not/not to the extent taught or some lectures were beyond that, although i dont expect a leftist to ever do any more than try slime through an argument to save face. I guess if you have no real response we're done.

>> No.8914168

>>8914126
That tweet was made by the most powerful man in the world, issued into office by embodying right wing fervor. I invite you to show me a "leftist" example of politically motivated science denial that is of remotely comparable magnitude.

>The left establishes a post modernist, anti-enlightment world view in which reason is secondary to subjectivity and man's ability to exert himself in the world is derided and shamed. The left has always done as much, when they called themselves the church or beyond when holding onto tribalism, their hatred of the individual, his rights, property and potential has always impeded.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? I guess you can make up any incoherent conspiracy theory if you shun evidence.

>> No.8914169

>>8914151
Dont know whos arguing what here but no-one swears the hippocratic oath or has done for a long, long timr. It has insane parts like saying doctors cant perform kidney stone operations. There are governing medical bodies who have codes of conduct and ethics totally distinct to the old oath. It really annoys me when shit tv gives people the idea its still around.

>> No.8914171

>>8913056
This is the board, of all boards on 4Chan concerning real world shit (because why would there be profitable about video games or movies), in which there is the most understanding of what is propaganda and what is real.

>> No.8914175

>>8914169
This. Almost everyone I know in medical is fucked in the head

>> No.8914177

>>8914168
Trump is hardly the emodiment of the right, he's highly for protectionism, opaque governance, surveillance and censorship. He's a bush/obama carry on.

As for your latter point, ill give you time to try reading, you can do it.

>> No.8914180

>>8914177
Not him but will we ever get a president who's not though?

>> No.8914181

>>8914175
Not remotely coherent to what i said, I think you're likely a moron though. Not swearing the oath makes them smart, it was only appropriate at the time.

I did a (history) degree and studied galen and hippocrates a fair amount, the oath made sense at the time.

>> No.8914182

>>8914166
>I never once said diseases cant have strong social causes,
Really? What was this statement in reference to then:
>No its indoctrination because it isnt backed up by research and nor evident in practice.
To clarify, this was in response to:
>Again, it's not political indoctrination, it's just a reality that you don't care about/want to deal with. It's entirely appropriate for something that has a large impact on health to be a part of a healthcare curriculum. If you have some studies that show that socioeconomic conditions are irrelevant to a person's health status, I'm sure we'd all love to see them.

>> No.8914183

>>8914180
Im not american but likely not, the establishment put up a monumental fight against someone who was like them all along so i doubt a genuine change would even get out the gate.

>> No.8914193

>>8914182
Things like diabetes being due to low income when the people coming into the local clinic smoke, eat out non stop and spend more a week on food than i do and i lift. That hiv isnt a disease of ivdus and gays when we recently had a breakout in my city and charting it was just a map of grindr usage. That health tourism isnt a thing when all nhs budgets show it to be true and my city has a high tb rate, despite historically being non-existent. That we need to move services away from the affluent part of town because other areas can't stop smoking and need clinics. That iq isnt heritable and is instead based on upbringing and so we should strive to rebalance wealth and education.

All sheer nonsense. Some things have social causes, others are just an attempt to remove responsibility and you may not like it but us doctors see irresponsibility. Lecture indoctrination can't make a dent on years of practice.

>> No.8914194

>>8914177
>Trump is hardly the emodiment of the right, he's highly for protectionism, opaque governance, surveillance and censorship. He's a bush/obama carry on.
What, exactly, do you think "the right" is? GW Bush was on the right. Trump is on the right. Your previous suggests that you associate the church with "leftism" which is absolutely fucking batshit to the point that it hardly warrants a response. I take it you think the only definition of "right wing" is Objectivism? Or are you Nat Soc?

>> No.8914197

>>8913741
>scientists or people interested in science have right wing views
That's not the case in most universities, at least not in my country.

>> No.8914198

>>8914150
want to ask me how i know you're retarded?

>> No.8914199

>>8914197
You totally misread that.

>> No.8914203

>>8914112

And Trump later said it was a joke. Interestingly enough I don't see any kind of word like "hoax", anyway. Climate change can still be true if a "concept" is being "pushed"; it's just that it's being pushed in a certain way where the solutions are unoptimal.

>> No.8914208

>>8914194
Leftists are in favour of greater state power and less individual autonomy. The church is deeply left in structure, dont buy into topical labels, instead think of practice. I never really made a definition of right wing as it doesnt exist today seen as historically it purely meant pro-monarchy. However in current discussion it incorporates libertarians, objectivists and nationalists. Im a libertarian.

>> No.8914211

>>8914199
?

>> No.8914213

>>8914203
Yes, he said exactly this:
"And I often joke that this is done for the benefit of China. Obviously, I joke. But this is done for the benefit of China, because China does not do anything to help climate change. They burn everything you could burn; they couldn't care less."
So in other words, "It was a joke but actually it wasn't a joke. Its totally true."

>> No.8914215

>>8914208
In most countries right wing means conservative, which is typically associated with established religions

>> No.8914218

>>8914215
Well which political side today advocates for basphemy laws and greater religious protections, it isnt the right.

>> No.8914221

>>8914213

>So in other words, "It was a joke but actually it wasn't a joke. Its totally true."

Trump wasn't talking about "climate change being fake" here. He was talking about how China does very little to combat climate change while we're expected to do everything. He even implicitly admits that climate change is true here by saying "China does not do anything to help climate change".

Learn to read you dumbass. You're probably one of those dumbasses who would unironically accept a carbon tax, cap-and-trade, and reverting living conditions back to the 18th century with super inefficient windmills because you're too much of a pussy to go nuclear.

>> No.8914222

A person that browses /pol/ like me will generally keep to scientific discussion, however that includes race, it is simply undeniable if you follow a very basic string of scientific facts.

Redditors might make a bait thread or a bill nye thread, however gorillaposting has existed for years, this cancer has always existed.

Now for threads like these, "hurr what do we do about /pol/", I'm genuinely convinced it's simply shilling because false-flagging when there is no sympathy for /pol/ would be completely retarded.
Please stop making these threads and possibly consider ending it.

>> No.8914225

>>8914218
>which political side today advocates for basphemy laws and greater religious protections
Not communist, that's for sure.
In my country the conservatives are religious whereas most of the left is atheist and want to protect a secular state.

>> No.8914229

>>8914222
Good point

>> No.8914234

>>8914225
Well you cant be western european, but outside of there i wouldnt know.

>> No.8914236

>>8914234
I'm French

>> No.8914237

>>8914222
What is gorillaposting?

>> No.8914241

>>8914208
>Leftists are in favour of greater state power and less individual autonomy.
No. The left is defined by trying to maximize equality and individual liberty. There are generally disagreements between the socialists, anarchists, and centerists on the role the government should play in this social order.
>The church is deeply left in structure, dont buy into topical labels, instead think of practice.
To a point you are correct, except that the church has traditionally and for the most part currently establishes a clear hierarchy that cannot be changed or challenged.
>I never really made a definition of right wing as it doesnt exist today seen as historically it purely meant pro-monarchy.
Right wing means tolerating or embracing some form of inequality, and there is also great disagreement in how big a role the government should play in enforcing this social order,

You seriously have no fucking clue about politics. Maybe it's different where ever you are from, but in the West this is what these words mean.

>> No.8914243

>>8914236
The country in which the left gave a thumbs up to the murder of journalists for offending religious figures? Get a grip.

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>>8914237
>What is the universe expanding into?

>> No.8914251

>>8914221
Getting desperate, I see.
"Obama's talking about all of this with the global warming and … a lot of it's a hoax. It's a hoax. I mean, it's a money-making industry, okay? It's a hoax, a lot of it."
Are you delusional or just completely ignorant? I can keep going if you want.

>> No.8914252

>>8914243
Those journalist were leftists. The left wing politicians never said the terrorists were right whereas some conservatives said they had it coming with their drawnings (mainly muslim conservatives).

>> No.8914253

>>8914241
The left has no interest in individual liberty, it is about state protection and enforcement equal stature the difference is purely a question of extent. Social cohesion is more important than rights and ideology is subservient to stability. The right doesnt necessitate inequality, it just accepts it as natural and potentially beneficial but only when resultant from a system in which individual liberty is maximal. I have a philosophy degree with a dissertation in politics, im sorry but i know a hell of a lot more, and in more depth than you. Not that i think that has a place in the argument but if you wish to call ranks - i win.

>> No.8914258

>>8914252
Muslims overwhelming vote left wing. The entirety of their religion carries with it a very left wing economic and social structure. There is no muslim right.

>> No.8914269

>>8914246
A throbbing erection.

>> No.8914292

>>8914251

>"Obama's talking about all of this with the global warming and … a lot of it's a hoax. It's a hoax. I mean, it's a money-making industry, okay? It's a hoax, a lot of it."

And he's right. He never called climate change a hoax. The scaremongering industry, however, is very much a hoax with standard-bearers like Al Gore preaching the gospel while flying private jets with little abandon. How many predictions from An Incovenient Truth came true?

Every single statement you've shown so far has many qualifying, nuanced statements. The only brainlet desperate to prove a narrative is you. Apparently, you're supposed to defend stupid lies if those lies aim to support a true statement.

Enjoy the carbon tax and the return to the Victorian Era.

>> No.8914293

>>8914292
I believe in global warming but the climatologists did themselves in being alarmist in order to sell films and interviews because now everyone thinks it's all overblown.

>> No.8914295

>>8914293

You sound like the Nazi fascist president that we have.

>> No.8914301

>>8913038
Were fucking trying, man...

>> No.8914335

>>8914293
the climatologists aren't the alarmists

>> No.8914336

>>8913038
They literally made a new board for their cancer yet they still bring their shit everywhere. Addicts for attention.

>> No.8914363

>>8913038
my personal theory on this is that its mostly Theists who are full of themselves after a particularly rousing circle jerk church session or propaganda reading that come here to unload against their presumed enemies.

Enemies in this case being anyone they perceive as being educated and potentially disagreeing with their cosmological view.

Also the tin foil hat wearing conspiracy junkies trying to find validation, where there is none to be had, for their various hair-brained ideas. These are your flat Earthers, moon hoaxers, and similar.

>> No.8914371

>>8914363
This

>> No.8914564

>>8914258
Muslims vote for left wing parties in Western countries because they want to live on government's money. In muslim countries, the government are overwhelmingly right wing (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrein, Morocco, Iran, Oman, Iraq), except for secular parties that religious people don't like (party baas)

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>>8913038
/pol/ is scientific

>> No.8914573

>>8914363
this was good bait until the last sentence, now i think you're being serious. pretty masterful.

>>8914564
this. the person you're replying to has never met a muslim in his life.

>> No.8914593

>>8913038
we have several threads a day just crying about /pol/, which result in inmense amount of bickering and shitposting

compared to the couple of troll threads by /pol/, which result in inmense amount of bickering about /pol/ and shitposting again

my point is, at every turn, it's you guys overreacting to bait instead of ignoring it that are really shitting up the board

>> No.8914601

>>8914573
I did meet one he shouted allahu ackbar and I ran the fuck away

>> No.8914635

All /pol/ does is spread factual information.

>> No.8914646

>>8913095

If you compare a man a women on equal terms (same diet, healthy, same level exercise), men are stronger. That can change if you make things unequal.

>> No.8914657

>>8914363
people like you are why we need a math catcha, fuck off back to /r/atheism

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Isn't it funny how retards at /sci/ use muh /pol/ about as often as retards at /pol/ use muh shills

>> No.8914696

>>8914657
>implying the shit-posting theists could do calculus

you funny

>> No.8914706

>>8914696
I don't wan't shitposting theists and I also don't want shitposting atheists, you aren't a scientist just because you watch Cal Sagan videos and have a bloated ego

>> No.8914724

>>8914706
>hyper defensive theist just got his fee fees hurted

cant wait to laugh at your your next strawman argument

>> No.8914730

>>8913038
>yet another SJWtard thread about /pol/
we told you to fuck off back to >>>/r/eddit

>> No.8914735

>>8913038
But half the time political threads are posted by anti-/pol/ redditors. But you don't recognize left-wing politics as being off-topic and part of the problem because you agree with them.
>make political thread
>debate
>some people have non-leftwing/non-liberal views
>GET THE FUCK BACK TO /pol/ YOU'RE RUINING THIS BOARD REEEEEEEE
>If you disagree your /pol/ fuck offf!!!11!!!
Also, you must be 18 or older to post, so you shouldn't even be here.

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>le /pol/ boogeyman

>> No.8914772

>>8914750

I wouldn't call them boogymen. /pol/ is more of a homeless guy that you can't kick out of your restaurant.

>> No.8914882

>>8913095
Depends on his definitions.
If by superior he means the potential/abillity to gain muscle mass, he's right.
Simply because test

>> No.8914909

>>8913746
Jesus christ this is pathetic.
Not even are you painting yourself as some virtuous hero, fighting the evil /pol/ boogeyman day in, day out, content to know you crush them in every debate every day, no, you also have to strawman /pol/'sopinion on 'your' board. Because who wouln't be terrified of being eternally BTFO by a handsome young communist wearing a pretty hat?

But without sarcasm, /pol/ is actually passionate about science, that's why they get riled up when stuff like the science march or Bill Nye happens, because they see an attempt to make science inherently leftist. Of course they wouldn't mind if it became right wing, but I don't think /pol/ would mind a neutral scientific field.

>> No.8914924

>>8913867
>African start-ups give a shit about sustainabillity
>Hipster companies such as google and the state of california are not to blame for emissions.

>> No.8914938

>>8914909
>/pol/ is actually passionate about science
lmfao...

if by that you meant they're passionate about climate change denial, passionately convinced the earth is flat, passionately convinced the moon landing was a hoax, passionately convinced supply side economics and tax cuts for the rich creates prosperity for all, passionately convinced evolution is fake, and passionately convinced science is a religion and that god is real then yeah okay but theyre still retarded.

>> No.8914948

>>8914909
>/pol/ """""""""" science""""""""""

>> No.8914982

>>8914938
don't forget "muh racial superiority" or "Hitler was right all along".

>> No.8915014

Politics pervade all facets of life, especially today. Everyone on all sides seems to think they need to invoke politics into innocuous discussions.

You can help fight it by simply ignoring it. I don't think making a thread complaining about it is going to do anything but galvanize people and make them defensive.

>> No.8915058

>>8914253
>the right doesn't necessitate inequality

have you literally ever been to /pol/?

>> No.8915063

>>8914145
>implying that's not an intellectual discussion on the effects of cauterization in the advanced medical world

>> No.8915064

>>8914292
There is no nuance. He literally says "it's a hoax." All you've got is some ridiculous supposition about the Victorian era. That's not going to convince anyone here, sweetie.