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What is your #1 scientific mindfuck, /sci/? The one that gives you an exestensial crisis or just makes your mind go fucky.

Mine would be
>The fastest-spinning neutron star known is PSR J1748-2446ad, rotating at a rate of 716 times a second or 43,000 revolutions per minute, giving a linear speed at the surface on the order of 0.24 c (i.e. nearly a quarter the speed of light).

>0.24 c

>> No.8911017

>>8911011
Neutron stars in general.
Cooler than black holes desu.

>A piece of matter from a neutron star would fall straight to the center of the Earth as if Earth were made up of a near vacuum.

>> No.8911082

>>8911017
And then it would pop back out again and oscillate for a bit.

>> No.8911094

String theory in general.

>> No.8911100

>>8911017
This. Neutron Stars and Magnetars are mind boggling.

>> No.8911238

>>8911100
>>8911017
What's so mindfucking about neutron stars? They're literally no weirder than atomic nuclei. Things like black holes, """dark energy""", false vacuum are way more mind boggling.

>> No.8911486

>>8911094
Wait till you get up to speed with Polchinski. Now that's what i call mindfuck. But a beautiful one

>> No.8911534

>>8911238
>what's so special about about x lol
>y and z are like so much cooler lmao

>> No.8911549

>>8911011
>ywn know what's inside a black hole

>> No.8911590

>>8911534
Yes, that's essentially what I wrote, why are you quoting it?

>> No.8911613

>>8911011
That there are still monkeys left, even though we evolved from monkeys!

>> No.8911629

>>8911011
Woah dude thats so amazing

>> No.8911674

>>8911238
I mean they're pretty weird in the way that they're literally just a giant clump of nucleons with nothing else between them, in the way that they exist because electrons would rather fuse with a proton than be in the same place as another electron, in the way that they're so dense that when you look at one you see more than half of the surface due to gravitational lensing and in the way that they pick up so much energy from the initial collapse that they spin at relativistic speeds despite weighing more than the sun.

Those other things are cool too but it's not a zero sum game.

>> No.8911679

>>8911238
>no wierder than atomic nuclei

id say the fact that they are basically atomic nuclei but bigger than mt everest makes them pretty wierd

>> No.8911711

>>8911679
To this day, i'm still amazed by the scale of our universe and some objects in it.

>> No.8911807

>>8911017
No, it would immediately explode because it is no longer held together by gravity.

>> No.8911864

>>8911807
What's pushing it apart?

>> No.8911870

>>8911864
What's hold it together?

>> No.8911875

>>8911864
neutrons
they don't like being squished like jews into a cattle car

>> No.8911884

>>8911864
Nuclear forces, obviously. In a neutron star, matter is compressed by gravity. Multiple neutrons of different velocity all occupy the same point without touching each other, like how EM waves can occupy the same point in space without interfering with each other. Remove the gravity of the star and the regular forces take over. The matter goes from degenerate to regular, and blows itself apart in a shower of neutrons. This would cause a chain reaction of fission with molecules in the air, creating a huge nuclear explosion. This is assuming the neutron star matter just appeared out of nowhere on earth.

>> No.8911925

>>8911590
Because it's some dumb shit you could say about anything

>> No.8911965

>>8911011
Galaxy Filaments

They show us that entropy works one a gargantuanally inhuman scale and that there's a good chance all of our known universe is merely a tiny portion of an even larger type of patterning of the universe on a scale so large we can't even see a fraction of a % of it.

>> No.8911989

>>8911011

Psychological arrow of time.

>> No.8911991

>>8911989

correction: "arrow of time"

Been a while, seems there are different terms to this now.

I

>> No.8911997

>>8911613
this

>> No.8912332

>>8911613
>>8911997
We didn't evolve from monkeys. We evolved from something that had more than one evolutionary path. That creature was not human or monkey and neither of them became monkey or human until many more evolutionary changes.

>> No.8913073
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8913073

>if you travel at .99999c, time stops moving for you

>> No.8913129

>>8911011
Looks like reverse Florida at a 90 degree rotation

>> No.8913133

>>8913073
>if you do something impossible, another impossible thing will happen

Wow man yeah lol xD this totally blew my mind too I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE XD

>> No.8913410

>>8913073
Doesn't your mass increase as well?

>> No.8913431

>>8913133
>>8913073

Kekekekekekekek Einsteins says if i were on a baem of light and i approached a clock i'd never see the hand move IFLS IFLS IFLS im such a nerd loll

>> No.8913621

>>8913410
More like your ass hahahaha

>> No.8913629

>impossible
>implying we could never get objects moving at respectable fractions of the speed of light

Still, moving just a few million meters a second is enough to stop time is a cool thought

>> No.8913653

>>8913629
>>implying we could never get objects moving at respectable fractions of the speed of light
>objects
Yeah, no. But obviously we're already doing it in particle colliders.

>> No.8913693

>>8913073
Is this the true power of The World? Accelerating to .999...*C?

>> No.8913717

>>8911011
I don't see it

>> No.8913722

I'd say the resolution limit is what's a mindfuck. We can't go any to any smaller measure of time, length, and mass. Essentially there is a minimum to everything. We have both ends of the spectrum covered with maxes and mins.

>> No.8913734

>>8913717
There are no fire extinguishers in that room on the right.

>> No.8913739

>>8912332
Hello hi. Welcome to 4chan. We hope you enjoy your time here!

>> No.8913740
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8913740

>>8913734
It cannot be unseen.

>> No.8913762

>>8911613

Another fucking ignorant dumbass who cant into evolution and a common ancestor.

Listen fuckface, you want mind blown? Take a direct route back through your paternal line and your direct ancestor was some sort of fucking fish Not enough to blow your mind? Then continue back and your direct ancestor was a single celled organism floating in the ancient ocean.

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8913807

fuck this gay boy shit, the only mind fucks I need are mathematical ones. Halting problem anyone? Banach Tarski paradox anyone? Fuck yall niggas.

>> No.8913830

>>8911011
> Science Mindfucks
The current status of the most successful scientific research program.

>> No.8913843
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8913843

>>8913807
Banach Tarski """""""""""paradox"""""""""""' you say?

>> No.8914055

Looks like benis :DDDD

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>>8912332
>>8913762

>> No.8914069

>>8911884
>Multiple neutrons of different velocity all occupy the same point without touching each other, like how EM waves can occupy the same point in space without interfering with each other
Holy fuck

>> No.8914080

>>8913410
No, that's just the diet and lack of excercise

>> No.8914083

>>8911613
Yeah man

Scientists say apes evolved over millions of years into humans. An ape can't live that long

>> No.8914085

>>8914083
i know right! a real scientific mindfuck xD xD xD

>> No.8914086
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8914086

>>8913807
>haha lol if I have a thing made of infinitely many infinitely little things, I can make infinitely many things out of it because it is infinite infinitely infinite infiihihihihijijihihihijhue
Really activates my almonds

>> No.8914155

>>8914086
You dont understand the paradox at all...

>> No.8915292

>>8911011
what would life be like on earth if the earth rotated that fast?

>> No.8915295

>>8915292
there wouldn't be life

>> No.8915299

>>8913843
Indeed, it is not really a paradox, but rather a clear-cut truth.

>> No.8915310

>>8915295
assume there was life somehow, or we colonize a planet moving that fast

don't think about the complications, just how things would look and feel

>> No.8915314

>>8915310
it would look and feel like you were dead

>> No.8915321

>>8915314
your genius is showing

>> No.8915327

>>8915310
>don't think about the fact that you wouldn't exist long before you came anywhere near that thing, let alone land on it
OK
>just how things would look and feel
disregarding the retarded gravity, the thing rotates 700 times a second, you wouldn't even know what the fuck is going on in the sky, and no, you wouldn't fly off

>> No.8915337

>>8911011
It looks kind of like a penis. Is that the joke?

>> No.8915341

>>8915327
Assuming our eyes saw the same frequencies at roughly the same "framerate", the stars would smear together and would be blue shifted in the direction of rotation. There would be a big rainbow in the sky all the time, or have I read too much Niven?

>> No.8915342

>>8912332
>>8913762
>taking the bait this hard

>> No.8915348

>>8915337
Nope, that would be you.

>> No.8915352

>>8915327
forgot I was talking about landing on the fucking star in question
nah, im saying a planet.

>disregarding the retarded gravity, the thing rotates 700 times a second, you wouldn't even know what the fuck is going on in the sky, and no, you wouldn't fly off

alright, there is somewhat of an answer.

shit, its just something to think about.
People THINK about what it would be like to enter a black hole even though you would be dead. They still discuss the physics of what would happen to your body even though you would die. I came to the fucking conclusion of death instantly, but do you still not think of it beyond that point, or is it not worth the energy of your 280IQ level?

>> No.8915370

>>8915352
Instantly means two different things when there are two different reference frames. What's probably inside a black hole is a bunch of fire and hot stuff, so yeah you'd probably die.

>> No.8915379

>>8915370
Ok, what would it be like from both reference frames?

Wasn't asking about black holes.
>>8915341
This is the types of responses I was looking for

>> No.8915407

>>8913133
>>8913431

nice, haha

>> No.8915420

>>8915352
I would be happier if I made you realize how beautiful is to understand the mechanics of such object.

The first two sentences in your post wouldn't be there.
You will never see a planet spinning that fast, because a neutron star is not an object that can form by collecting clumps of space dust.
It's a core of a dead star that collapsed under its own weight, not quite enough to form a black hole, but hard enough to deform matter into a bizarre state unlike anything else we know. It's spinning that fast, because it has retained its original rotation speed of a star core which was thousands of miles across, now just several dozen miles wide. It's the densest form of matter in the universe, building blocks of atoms crushed together and held there by the sheer force of gravity.

>> No.8915434

>>8913621
I legitimately laughed at this what is wrong with me?

>> No.8915468

>>8915420
Yes, I knew what a neutron star was. But yes, it is a very bizarre or "beautiful" object. Well explained though.

Do people on sci not like to just discuss thoughts on shit, hypotheticals even?
At least one anon thought about what light would look like spinning that fast. I guess that's as good as it gets.

>> No.8915469

This shit thread is more about how people envy and fear " The African Continent and it's Natives " than anything else. I has nothing to do with Science nor Math. Everything to do with Hate and envy from inferior genes.

>> No.8915592
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8915592

>>8911011
This graph spooked me the first time I saw it.

>> No.8915617

>>8915469
>discussion of neutron stars is actually about Africans

Not everything is about you, Tyrone.

>> No.8916035

>>8914083
fuking kek

>> No.8916250
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8916250

>>8911011
Charged microparticles (dust) suspended in a plasma will self-organize into clouds and crystals in the presence of a strong gravitational field. These systems are well-understood and well-modeled.

Take the exact same system and put it in microgravity (like on the space station) and a giant void appears in the middle of the plasma.


After two decades of research we still have no fucking idea why. Every single, reasonable, sensible explanation has turned out to be completely wrong.

>> No.8916315

>>8913133
>>8913431
>>8913621
epic...

>> No.8916466

>>8915592
jeez that's cool as fuck.
do you have the equation?

>> No.8916588

>>8916466
It's probably just Abs(x) Cos(x)

>> No.8917623

>>8913722
Explain?

>inb4 brainlet lol hahaha

>> No.8917685

>>8913693
Yes actually. It was canonized in Stone Ocean.
Exactly why MiH was able to move during stopped time

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>>8911011
>What is your #1 scientific mindfuck, /sci/?
Right now, if you close your fist, you've just "caught" around 3 particles of dark matter. It's all around up be don't know what it is and don't even know how to detect it. Scientists have been searching for it for a while and we've narrowed down energies of where it could be by huge chinks and yet we still don't know if we'll ever find it.

>> No.8917733

>>8916466
[math]x\cos(\frac{1}{x}) [/math]

>> No.8917770

>>8913073
Yeah but you can't travel at .999c because that's 1c and you can't travel at the speed of light dummy

>> No.8917781

>Observation effects outcome in quantum mechanics
>The universe literally is random

>> No.8917787

>>8917781
>Doing a physical perturbation as measuring perturbates the system

wOw so spooky :^)

>> No.8917835

>>8911875
(((JEWTRONS)))

>> No.8918224

Holy shit, so many stupid fucks who litteraly know NOTHING about science, this entire section is pure disgrace.

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>>8915592
>>8916466

>> No.8918461

>>8916250
My god

>> No.8918468

>>8918224
welcome to /sci/

>> No.8918503

>>8911238
The density. A neutron star the size of a matchbox weighs 300,000,000,000 tonnes

>> No.8918578

>>8916250
This one is actually pretty cool