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>> No.8910482

philosophy of underwater basket weaving

>> No.8910484

Principles of Economics. Not even joking.

>> No.8910495

Probably statistics because i wanted to blow my brains out listening to my FOB curry instructor do matrices at the pace of a snail without linear algebra. Didn't go to class except for the exam dates. Also the class was filled with niggers.

>> No.8910506

Public speaking.

>> No.8910507

Javelin Toss

>> No.8910511

That fourth year signal analysis class. Had to know Laplace and Fourier like a pro.

>> No.8910512

>>8910479
love

>> No.8910514

Race and IQ

I was a libcuck before but now that I am aware of the racial differences in intelligence I feel much better.

Professor kept dropping redpill after redpill, so the SJW kept sperging every class I think they dropped it out.

But the exams were very hard tho.

>> No.8910521

>>8910507
I bet you're an excellent tosser.

>> No.8910522

>>8910479
Principles of advanced quantitative gender spectrum theory

>> No.8910554

>>8910479
not really taken anything hard yet, although my embedded systems course was artificially hard.

Also who is this nut ninja?

>> No.8910570

>>8910479
statistical mechanics what a nightmare

cool class anyway

>> No.8910579

>>8910479
maths for physicists for grad students.

>> No.8910584
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>>8910479
Physics 2, electricity and megnetism. Fuck that class.

>> No.8910587
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>mfw my electrical engineer roommate tells me his complex "analysis" course was hard
>mfw they spent the whole fucking semester finding laurent series, calculating a few residues and then finding möbius transformations

>> No.8910591

>>8910479
electromagnetics 2

its not even hard, i just sucked ass at math and i couldnt figure shit out.

>> No.8910595

>>8910570
Same here bro. I got absolutely ass raped on the exam.

>> No.8910602
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8910602

My PhD time-series statistics course. Didn't realize that it is super easy until I finished my final project due a week after the final.

9/10 would recommend course.

>> No.8910609

>>8910587
If you try to teach a monkey multiplication it too will think it is too hard.

>> No.8910625

The Vagina in Post-Post-Patriarchal Western Civilization

>> No.8910637

introductory analysis

it wasn't that bad but nothing before it was really too bad either

>> No.8910641

Embarrassingly.. Calculus II. Had to take it a second time. Uni phy II was kinda hard, but just took a lot more studying and how different it was from uni phy I

>> No.8910678

Probability. I have a new found respect for actuarial science and statitians. Though half of the class that passed were physics students like myself.

>> No.8910702

>>8910479
electrodynamics with the jackson textbook

>> No.8910709

>>8910678
Did you use Probability: For the Enthusiastic Beginner.


https://www.amazon.com/Probability-Enthusiastic-Beginner-David-Morin/dp/1523318678/ref=pd_sim_14_19?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1523318678&pd_rd_r=N5E2TC23FRPXVPDS7VYY&pd_rd_w=K70HK&pd_rd_wg=r5vS9&psc=1&refRID=N5E2TC23FRPXVPDS7VYY

>> No.8910711

General Relativity

>> No.8910713

>>8910709
I used Ross and one book written by a professor here at my uni.

>> No.8910715
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>>8910479
Statistics no doubt

>> No.8910716

>>8910713
did you like the course?

I'm planning on self studying it in the summer

>> No.8910718

>>8910715
Ive never taken stats, what was difficult about it from your point of view anon?

>> No.8910726
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>>8910718
I've taken stats twice and I don't know shit.
>t.brainlet

>> No.8910727

>>8910716
It's really challenging because there are a lot of problems with really subtle shit in them. Two almost identical problems can have dramatically different results so you need to do a lot of problems and exercises. Though it really is a powerful tool with many connections to higher level math and has some really beautiful results. I recomend it completely, but I suppose it's better with a teacher because there are many fallacious arguments you can make without eveb noticing. At least that's my experience, I know some people have a knack for it.

>> No.8910738

analysis in several dimensions

>> No.8910741

>>8910479
Operating Systems 2

>> No.8910745

Badminton.

The final exam was a round robin tournament of the 8 of us in the class. I finished last.

>> No.8910747

>sci always bashing engineers
>"dur i failed the calculus and the libarts free A's"
its always worth it to come back every few months

>> No.8910766

>>8910641
My calc 2 was pretty beastly, now that you mention it. Instructor was a sub par lecturer and assigned completely unreasonable amounts of work. Only reason I got an A in that class is that our final got cancelled due to a 2 week long ice storm.

>> No.8910769

All you guys saying stats- what level of stats was it? Did you take it before calc or after?

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>>8910769
I took second year stats and third year stats for science (basically the same course).
This was after calc I. I still don't know shit.
#brainletlyfe

>> No.8910804

>>8910479
3 way tie between point set topology, differential geomtery, and algebraic number theory

>> No.8910838

>>8910804
Seriously, fuck algebraic number theory

>> No.8910841

Real Analysis.

>> No.8910869

>>8910841
thank god i don't have to take that, only gotta take an intro to complex
>>8910766
Same anon, i had the dumbest idea of taking a fast track compressed semester of cal 1 for 6 weeks followed by cal 2 the next 6 weeks.
I had gone 1 whole year without math before that class and it kicked my ass, the professor who taught it was extremely thorough and he went through everything, I have to thank him for that though, i ended up getting a C in both courses. To this day it was my hardest semester.

>> No.8910872

>>8910797
Ohh shit m8 is that your car?! What the hell happened?

>> No.8910874

>>8910869
I got a C in both courses too. I only fast tracked calc II though.

>> No.8910889

>>8910874
I remember this also, by the end of the cal 1 section their was only 5 of us left and by the end of cal 2 their was only 7 (some people joined mid term not knowing it was a fast track course), shit was wack yo.

>> No.8910896

>>8910869
yeah your lucky man, (undergrad) complex is both easier and more enjoyable than real analysis imo

>> No.8910916

>>8910896
>complex analysis is easier than its prerequisite which is basically topology of R^n
if you want to do complex you need to REALLY know your R^n analysis well. cauchy theory is really not trivial if you haven't studied differential forms, and I don't think most people have at that point, especially if you're just taking the first real analysis. or is it something like complex calculus with plug and chug and shit?

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>>8910637
>Babbys first anal course.

Welcome to the big leagues son.

Anyway hardest course ever was Point set topology. Fuck that course.

>> No.8910937

>>8910916
>I have no idea what I'm talking about
The post.

>> No.8910943

>>8910937
yeah very good answer you retarded fucking baboon

>> No.8910954

Took a graduate math logic course as an undergrad.

It made me realize I was a brainlet and switched fields.

Good class though.

>> No.8910960

>hardest class right now
general topology or algebraic number theory
>hardest class next year
algebraic curves with focus on elliptic curves and their arithmetic

>> No.8910962

>>8910954
What did you make in it?
What was the hardest thing about it?
Would you take it again?

>> No.8910972

>>8910479
Stochastic Calculus
Or maybe decision theory, fucking topologies and affine spaces man

>> No.8910973

>>8910962
Got a B+
Mostly I just lacked the experience. I had only taken real/complex analysis and abstract algebra. I really needed more algebra experience.
I would take it again. The material covered was fascinating, and I had been primed to switch fields for a while then because I was just depressed and most of our math faculty and grad students were not particularly happy or socially healthy people.

>> No.8910978

How hard is differential geometry?
Geometry is my favorite area of math and I plan on taking as many higher level geometry courses as possible for my minor/ out if pure interest.

>> No.8910981

>>8910978
should be ok if you have the appropriate background in analysis and linear algebra

>> No.8911001
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>>8910943
>Makes a claim that clearly shows he has no understanding of higher level Mathematics.

>Calls someone who calls him out a retarded fucking baboon.

>Proves that he has no idea what he is talking about, and also that he has the maturity level of an infant.

Good one kiddo.

>> No.8911037

Tie between Sensor Based Robotics and Advanced Dynamics (grad courses).

SBR wasn't so much difficult as it was exhaustive. The professor had no sense of what time management was/is and put everything near the last minute for no reason other than to fuck people over. One problem could take upwards of 2 hrs to solve and we'd typically be given shit like finding 6x6 or 8x8 matrices, and breaking down each equation in each column/row. It was pretty fucking infuriating.

The professor also didn't know how to teach. He thinks speaking wiki-style is teaching.

For advanced dynamics, the prof didn't even teach. He just repeated exactly the same shit from the text. Literally the same. I once saw him recite a paragraph straight out of the text without looking at it. That was fucking insanity to me.

>> No.8911041

>>8910479
accounting

>> No.8911046

Computational physics.

I know /sci/ memes CS a lot, but I can't code for shit. Given, the prereq was a bullshit class in Python which I passed by copy and pasting code from GitHub, and the class used Java, that shit was definitely harder and more time consuming than anything physics or math I've done before. Now I understand why those fags get paid so much money for such menial shit.

>> No.8911050

Pretty sure I didn't see anyone mention pchem

Wasn't hard per se but it was brain rape

>> No.8911051

>continuum mechanics
>deterministic models
equally hard, basically impossible problem sets.

>tfw next CM problems set is due in 2 days, already spent 20+ hours and did 1.5 out of 5 problems

>> No.8911060

>>8911046
>anything in Java
>hard

Pick one.

>> No.8911074

statistics
also complex variables with applications

>> No.8911079

bacterial pathogenesis, mainly because the tests were ridiculous rather than the information being hard to grasp

>> No.8911108

>>8910511
This, had a dickhead prof for it too which made it very difficult.

>> No.8911117

Quantum field theory

>> No.8911121

Chemistry 1 and Physics 1. I just don't understand any of it.

>> No.8911123

>>8910584
It's notorious for being the most difficult undergrad physics course

>> No.8911147

>>8910514
Where did you take this class? Was it a section of evolutionary psych or something?

>> No.8911155

>>8910972
about to start stochastic calculus next year, seems like a real bitch

>> No.8911163

>>8910925
how is 4sin(θ)/π just the same as sin(θ)?

>> No.8911171

>>8911163
>163▶
>>>8910925
>how is 4sin(θ)/π just the same as sin(θ)?
it's a fourier series of a square wave, showing sequential terms getting closer.

>> No.8911183

Pharmacology / Kinetics

No intuitive way to approach this information, literally just memorizing a massive amount of info

>> No.8911190

>>8911163
because it's just sin(theta) multiplied by a constant (4/Pi)
2x^2 looks like x^2 but it's steeper

>> No.8911235

A close tie between Electrodynamics and Quantum Mechanics.
The curve in quantum was practically life saving - ended up with a B without getting higher than a 50 on any graded piece of work

>> No.8911247

>>8910479
Principles of Weaving: Philosophical Basket Spectrum Genders

>> No.8911252

>>8910973
how did it make you realize you were a brainlet? what happened?

>> No.8911264

>>8910479
accounting

>> No.8911278

Special relativity
>tfw retarded

>> No.8911311

>>8910479
4th year (masters) organic chemistry

The rearrangement mechanisms are fucking nuts.
Stereoelectronics are fucked.
Spectra interpretation are fucked, specifically NMR.

>> No.8911438

Mathematical Logic.

>> No.8911559

>>8910602
If you're still here friendo, I'm taking a graduate time series course next semester. What sort of dank shit should I expect to learn? Already took an undergraduate version that was watered down.

>> No.8911677

>>8910584
Actually thought this was easier than thermodynamics.... lel

>> No.8911685

>>8910484
why

>> No.8911686

>>8911559
What sort of stuff did you learn in your undergraduate course?

From tutoring the undergrad version, the main distinction that I found was that the graduate version was more theoretical and covered a few more topics.

I'm sure you covered GARCH models, but there are really interesting extensions that fit more complicated behavior (e.g. the continuous GARCH, which feels a bit more like a stochastic differential equation).

Also, did you cover vector error correction models? Because those are the coolest shit in the world. The theory is more interesting than the practice IMO, so diving into that is definitely worth taking that by itself. If you have any more questions, I'm happy to answer them.

>> No.8911696

>this year

Growing Artificial Societies

>this coming year

idk probably time series econometrics or microeconomics with calc

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>>8911235
>The curve in quantum was practically life saving - ended up with a B without getting higher than a 50 on any graded piece of work


>American Universities

>> No.8911838

>>8911155
It may be advisable to take a 2nd analysis course where you review measure theory and functional analyisis intro

Grasp onto the Rudin and Battle for reference, and Evans, Nualart and Oksendall for main topics

>> No.8911845

Also there was one book like Elementary stochastic calculus with finance in view, which was very good to read if you're new to this

>>8911838

>> No.8911868

>>8910479
Projective Geometry. What could've been an interesting class boiled down to "Memorise all of this bullshit and reproduce it on the exam."

>> No.8911905

Chem 1.

Out of Engineering differential equations, physics 2, and calc 2, which is the hardest?

>> No.8911912

>>8910479

Honors Chem 101 lel

The professor was a guy that was at Caltech for undergrad, and Harvard for his PhD. He was by far the smartest person I've ever met.

He just taught shit at a ridiculous level. My senior year I was finally making sense of concepts he tried to force in my stupid brain the first semester I was in college.

>> No.8911935

Mechanics II: Elasticity. Mostly because the teacher is a cunt and gives you no points if you answer questions in any way except for that one way in which she thought in class.

>> No.8911940

>>8911935
>*taught

>> No.8911953

>>8910479

I'd have to say Physics semester I for undergrad. It's like you have to come into the class being a physicists or having studied physics and math years prior... And this was after I got my bachelor's in neuroscience (University of Illinois at Chicago - 2011).

>> No.8911956

>>8911953
you're retarded mate.

hate for you to find out like this.

>> No.8911959

>>8910479
pchem

>> No.8911986

>>8911905
Physics 2 is easy at my school. I'm taking it now. But we might not follow the same progression that everyone else does. For us, phy 2 is simple oscillators, waves, sound, fluids, thermodynamics and optics. Phy 3 has all the electromagnetism shit that seems to throw everyone off

>> No.8911998

>>8910584
You struggled with physII level EM?? That's a 100 level class anywhere you go. The life sciences majors at the comunnity college level can pass that class with flying colors. What the fuck dude. How will you handle 400 level EM when you get there?

>> No.8912014

>>8911986
Here, physics 2 has Electromagnetism. I'm not that worried about it, but I've heard people say it's hard.

>> No.8912027

>>8912014
its not hard, people just aren't good at 3-d space, so things like direction of magnetic forces confuses them.. it's so simple that if you just remove the calc portions it is basically a highschool class.

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>>8912027
>People aren't good at 3d space
>They somehow passed physics 1

>> No.8912038

>>8912034
they only need a c to get through a course at american uni, and you can do that by not showing up to class and cramming a bit of material the night before an exam.

grade inflation is real in this country so you get a bunch of retards saying that easy classes are hard, meanwhile your university silently stops offering a ton of 400 levels because no one was interested in taking them so you spend your senior year doing 400 level "independent study" versions of the missing courses.

>> No.8912039

>>8911247

this, but underwater

>> No.8912049

>>8912034
Like half the point of physics 1 is how to interpret 3-D motion as 2-D motion.

>> No.8912052

>>8910479
Functional analysis probably.

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Circuits 1. I picked mechanical engineering because i am to dumb for EE why are you making me take this shit i have a 3.9 now because of it REEEEEEEE

>> No.8912134

What's up with people in here saying electromagnetism was hard and circuits? They go hand in hand. I took both and passed them with flying colors. Didn't really understand why either were considered hard.

Then again, I'm EE major and find this stuff interesting and engaging so I enjoyed investing time to study them.

>> No.8912141

>>8912134
oh yeah, I found the first physics class to be a pain in the ass. Mostly because my high school didn't offer the physics courses because of budget cuts. Even though I was able to do all the work problems right, the multiple choice ended up fucking my grade up. Hate multiple choice.

>> No.8912143

>>8912134
my professor spend the first 15 minutes talking about the shit he read in a magazine every fucking lecture in emag2.

my other circuits 2 professor spend the first 40 minutes talking about teaching philosophy instead of teaching actual circuits.

needless to say none of them ever finished any of their lectures in the slightest.

>> No.8912181

>>8911686
My University doesn't offer an undergraduate statistics degree, only graduate, so when I say watered down, it's probably even more watered down than you're expecting, since the undergrad course is offered mainly as a VEE for Actuarial students with VERY loose prereqs. Coming from a pure math background, I decided to take it as a 'fuck it' course to see if it was interesting and I found it enjoyable, which is a shame, since chunks of the theory had to be hand waved past in lectures to get to applying the material.

It covered basic models, AR, MA, ARMA, ARCH; stationarity, causality, invertability; forecast & forecast errors; trend removal & seasonal adjustment; Autocorrelation and Autocovariance of processes, and estimation of parameters and autocovariance and such.

Alot of time was bled because of student weakness in multivariate stats, linear algebra, and other topics that came up which needed to be explained/reinforced, as well as teaching implementation in R, so I'm sure we didn't cover many topics. If you want a (loose) idea of things we covered, the book used most of the time was Brockwell & Davis' Time Series and Methods, however other reference material was used I believe.

>> No.8912189

>>8910484

t. soft econ major

literally fucking kys

>> No.8912208

>>8912134
It's the labs. My good, I've never worked so hard as I did in circuits lab.

>> No.8912209

>>8911001
>>HURR YOU'RE A WRONG AND DUMB HURRR
>fuck off retard
>>You have no idea what you are talking about, and also the maturity level of an infant.
why dont you give an argument then instead of sperging out like a fucking autist? what I said was perfectly reasonable and anyone who knows some math would agree

>> No.8912243

>>8910479
Engllish 101

>> No.8912247

machine learning, it was my last semester and i maybe coulda put in more effort lel. Anyway, I got raped in it but got by with a B- cuz final group leeching and stupid scaling

>> No.8912262
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Ordinary differential equations, because the teacher forced us to read a fucking book on physics when I was a math student. Fuck! I was supposed to be studying a math degree, not a physics one (and I hate physics). All I studied were physical concepts I never understood. Due to this, PDE was difficult too, but at least there were no fucking physics.

>> No.8912265

>>8912262
read the book by Hirsch&Smale to fix your education

>> No.8912273

>>8912265
is this the best book on ode ?

>> No.8912286

>>8912273
I don't know if it's the best, but it has the picard existence and uniqueness theorem, a discussion on stability, a lot of examples, and the qualitative theory culminating with the important poincare-bendixson

I'd say it's really up there.

https://www.math.upatras.gr/~bountis/files/def-eq.pdf

>> No.8912330

hardest was formal languages, grammars & complexity during my first year, but in hindsight it was not that hard, i was just extremly oblivious to the matters

>>8910514
i am glad you did that.

>> No.8912442

>>8912265
>Hirsch&Smale
Ewww, I must study differential equations, not physics.

>> No.8912462

>>8912442
??????
it covers picard and up to poincare bendixson, what else do you want?

>> No.8912583

I've never found any class hard so far desu, the closest was probably differential geometry when we did fiber bundles, because I had a hard time grasping what they actually were. The graduate physics courses were all pretty easy.

>> No.8912604

supramolecular chemistry was just so vague

also physical methods in inorganic chemistry, had to learn EXAFS, NMR pulse sequences, x-ray diffraction, CV, IR, Raman, surface science (stupid boring fundamental research), Elemental analysis, Mossbauer, EPR, time resolved fluorescence spectroscopy and magnetic susceptibility measurements

I'm probably forgetting some too

>> No.8912660

High School Art. I'm starting my junior year of an EE program in the fall. The nigger teacher made us draw circles for hours for homework.

>> No.8912863

>>8911986
Do you go to a quarter school? All of this is covered in 2 semesters at my uni, but I could see it split up into 3 quarters desu

>> No.8912871

>>8910925
My first analysis course fucked me so hard. Everything after that was a lot more comfortable.

>> No.8912879

>>8910479
Physics III. Eletromagnetism.

>> No.8912885

>>8912262
>PDE was difficult too, but at least there were no fucking physics.
PDE's was a lot of physics when I took it.

>> No.8912887

>>8910479

Probably Organic Chemistry 1 because I couldn't read spectrographs to save my life, I couldn't understand other topics besides, and I otherwise generally didn't grasp what was going on in labs. So I withdrew and this was a the start of a long academic decline. I did eke out a math degree though.

Later, I had courses where I could get my head around the content but I just didn't put in the work. That's different since that was genuine lack of effort. Organic Chemistry is what I remember where I reached a ceiling on cognitive capability, together with motivation, and where I was actually trying at the time (though perhaps not very hard).

>> No.8912909

>>8910479
I flunked Calc III the first time going through it.

That being said, it was one of those things where the Prof decided to try a different teaching method and a huge portion of the class failed and Prof was in everyone.

I took the course again with the same Prof when I it became available and didn't show up at all except to turn in homework assignments and take the tests. Like, legitimatley I would go into class a couple minutes early and ask if there would be any test or quiz and what our assignments would be, if any, and then I would just go home and study. Shit was so much simpler that way.

>> No.8912912

>>8910495
>Also the class was filled with niggers.

Intro statistics always is. All my core classes were filled with them, by sophomore year they seem to disappear off the face of the Earth.

>> No.8912913

Software Engineering graduate here. Nothing in my undergrad was difficult. The closest thing to be even remotely challenging was linear algebra.
It was a solid pick for me because I'm an idiot and I wanted to make a decent living. Can confirm - am making a decent living.

>> No.8912917

>>8911998
>The life sciences majors at the comunnity college level can pass that class with flying colors

No that's just wrong.

>> No.8912935

>>8912909
>Prof decided to try a different teaching method and a huge portion of the class failed

Just take that shit to the dean. They hate when this kind of stuff happens in standard classes.

>> No.8912936

>>8912181
My university offers a 300 level statistics course that all math majors and CS majors have to take. There was zero calculus involved and the entire semester built up to ANOVA and Chi-Square. I felt like I was taking a high school class.

>> No.8912964

>>8910479
Did Manuel destroy her pussy? What's her name? Link?

>> No.8912968

>>8912935
Probably should have looked into something like that but I didn't at the time. Didn't really end up mattering for me anyway because the school just ate my diploma in the end either way.

>> No.8912986

>>8912968
>the school just ate my diploma in the end either way.

?

>> No.8912994

Elementary number theory class

literally had IMO-tier problem sets

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>>8912986
Long story short was an issue processing my request for graduation due to a novel clerical error and after running around for a while trying to get it resolved I just got fed up and said fuck it and left it there.

I'm sure it sounds stupid as fuck, but really it was just one of those degrees that was only really good for transferring your credits to another more expensive school and I was completley out of money and not to mention super burnt out from the whole experience. So I just went and got a normal wageslave job, which I recently got laid off from.

>> No.8913103

>>8912936
That sounds like the type of thing that Psych or Bio majors would be shoved into, not math or CS. I'm sorry for your experience.

>> No.8913606

>>8910506
literally made me quit college in 2011, not kidding

>> No.8913627

>>8910479
Algebraic number theory. Never really clicked

>> No.8913632

>>8910479
Paladin

>> No.8913635

>>8911050
i mentioned after u did

and youre right its not hard but it fucks your brain royally

>> No.8913644

Circuits II
It was pretty fucking terrible. The professor made it even harder than it needed to be

>> No.8913738

>>8911060
Webcrawling in Java.

>> No.8913820

Analysis 1. Solving math with words, I could hardly understand it. I had to drop the class

>> No.8913824

>>8910514
Had the professor been Jewish or Asian (superior race to you), you wouldn't have felt as good.

>> No.8913825

>>8913820
I agree. Analysis I was the hardest class I took in college. I got a B.

>> No.8913828

>>8911777
Trips and dubs of truth.
Despite all this American universities are ranked the top in the world.

>> No.8913857

>>8913820
>>8913825
>Analysis
>Words

The entire point of analysis is being able to rigorously and purely symbolically prove all of calculus.

If you did analysis with words I feel bad for you

>> No.8913905

>>8910479
Cytopathology and Histopathology

>> No.8913922
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>>8910506
this

>anon talk more than two sentences
>anon try to express yourself

>> No.8914129

>>8913606
Okay, I'll bite. Literally how did it make you quit college?

>> No.8914139

>>8910479
>Topology

Best class I took in undergrad. First time I was forced to think about problems for extended periods of time. Not a single mechanical "how X is a topology" bullshit tier kind of question was given to me.

>> No.8914367

I sucked ass at Calc I. I thought II was much easier even though everyone else thought it was the hardest of the three Calculus courses. Biochemistry II exams were pretty brutal because it was impossible to bullshit an answer and there were one or two questions that I could not for the life of me find in the lecture material or in the textbook.

>> No.8914380

>>8910479
Operating Systems.

We built the PintOS Project and it took a lot of time. Not as difficult as tedious.

>> No.8914394

>>8912936
Wow, I took a stats class for social science research and we got to anova, chi^2, DOM and various types of regression

We probably didn't go as in depth

>> No.8914461

Cellular Biology.
You pretty much have to know every cellular mechanism ever at a mechanistic level.

>> No.8914554

>>8912181
Not sure if you're still around, but, if you're interested, I can explain one of the main "cool" parts of the graduate version.

If you recall, the majority of time-series models are predicated on the idea that your generating process is stationary (i.e. the auto-regressive coefficient is 1 > in magnitude), but a huge body of time-series data are actually stationary or unit-root ( coeff = 1 or greater).

This can be solved by first differences obviously, but if you're working in the context of a vector process (the generalization of AR and MA are VAR and VMA etc.), then it's possible that there exists a linear combination of the time-series that IS stationary. This is called being cointegrated, and it means that if you first-difference out the series, you lose some of the long-run behavior. To counteract this, you use the cointegrating linear combination to utilize the long-run mean-reverting behavior of the series (multiple series) to create a vector error correction term at the beginning of your first-differences model.

Cool, right?

>> No.8914555

Intra and Extracellular Signal Transductions

Only class I've ever honestly felt like cheating was the only way to pass. Cellular secondary messengers are probably the best case for there existing a God. Seriously I can't describe how complex the systems in your body are to make all your shit work, molecule by molecule.

>> No.8914631

>>8913828

Because of published papers only, american engineers learn a lot less than european engineers and south american engineers

>> No.8914637
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The Finite Element Method was the hardest course in my four years of undergrad.

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>>8910479

Fluid Dynamics... Navier-Stokes Equation is EASY once you grasp it.. but fucking shit it is scary -ass bitch when you first see it.

>> No.8914651
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Object Oriented Programming with C++.

I am sure that the topic is not that bad for most people but the instructor where I am at has lots of crazy rules that force you to build everything from scratch. There are 1500 line programs due every 2 weeks where if you get below 65% on any of them, you automatically fail, same goes for midterms and quizzes. There are also 2 proficiency demos you must pass. I think I spent ~40 hours/week working on that class.

>> No.8914743

>>8912936
RUG?

>> No.8914751

Either functional analysis or geometric topology.

>> No.8914756

>>8910479
English teaching 101 :^)

>> No.8914776

Cunnilingus 101

>> No.8914792

>>8910479
programming in C

>> No.8914833

>>8910506
did you happen to go to Indiana University? I got a physics degree from IU and public speaking was literally the only class I didn't get an A in.

>> No.8914840

>>8910479
In year 12 last year i got an A- in Physics and A+ in specialist Maths, but i barely passed Accounting. The class is so shit omfg.

>> No.8914863

life

>> No.8914897

>>8910479
Honestly, Calculus.
I'm a math major graduating next semester and every course taken after my first year has been trivial in comparison.

>So many things to memorize
>Have to solve problems the way the instructor asks
>class 4 days a week

Luckily I was able to avoid diffyQ and analysis and shit, by taking abstract algebra, combinatorics...etc

YAY EZ MATH

>> No.8915005

When studying for A-level years ago I attended classes for doing an optional advanced maths paper. I didn't have a fucking clue. I knew then I had hit the limit of what I could do in maths without an inordinate about of work.

>> No.8915007

mineralogy.

>> No.8915101

>>8910479
Partial Differential Equations

>> No.8915110

>>8910479
Third year Probability and Statistics for Engineers.

>> No.8915116

>>8910479
Stress and strain analysis. Terryfing shit

>> No.8915127

Anger management.

>> No.8915186

Solid State Physics was a pain.

>> No.8915192
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>be me
>taking Intro to IUTT
>professor refuses to leave his office so he skypes every lecture
>course notes are impenetrable
>problem sets take literally weeks
>one of the easy problems tells us to apply the definition
>definition is 21 pages long
>one of them is solve RH
>look up solutions, it literally just says the 1/2 in pic related reminds him of Re=1/2 line

>> No.8915206

>>8914651
Actually, I don't think this is out of the ordinary. When I took a similar class I was regularly putting in 20+ hours a week and the grading was harsh af.

>> No.8915252

About to take Mechanics and Calc 2 during an 8 week course. Wish me luck faggots

>> No.8915397

I'm interested in why everyone is listing introductory classes. What is it about them that trips people up if they're just foundational?

I'm in the same boat though. My hardest class was circuits I and II (they're one class at my uni).

>> No.8915404

>>8910506
haha I just keep avoiding this class for some reason...

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>>8910479
Algebra II

>> No.8915411

>>8915397
Because everybody on /sci/ is a brainlet.

>> No.8915415

>>8915192
>professor refuses to leave his office so he skypes every lecture
Sounds like a cool prof desu.

>> No.8915422

>>8915397
Freshmen can get tripped up by the fact that you actually have to do at least some work to succeed in university, especially in America where this is not true in high school.
By the time you're taking your 4th year algebraic topology course even though it's harder you've adapted to what you need to do to handle it.

>> No.8915425

>>8911777
>ended up with a B without getting higher than a 50 on any graded piece of work
Literally how?

>> No.8915459

>>8911235
I'm still waiting on my grades. Just took these.

>> No.8915552

>>8915252

If you dont work more than 30 hours a week this should be cake. I assume mechanics lab as well?

>> No.8915558

''How To Love your Gay Son 101''

>> No.8915591

>>8914631
What is a good EE uni in europe? I wanna see what im missing here

>> No.8915624

CS data structures or physics 2.

>> No.8915743

>>8914631
As a south american engineering student, these posts always baffle me. I've had classes where 90% of people failed with 50% or less and retarded gay stuff like a curve that sends it up to a b (80% or more) was never considered, you just take it again next semester. No wonder all of these american nig nogs have a GPA of 4

>> No.8915875

>>8915743
If south american engineers are so much better, why is it such a shithole?

>> No.8915882

>>8915875
Because when you graduate, you realize that all the shit you studied has basically no industry in your country. From that point on you have two options: 1) Work on a job that doesnt apply nearly as much as you learned (Like a manager job or something any retard could do) 2) Go to another country.

>> No.8915885

>>8915882
Fuck off we're full

>> No.8915894

>>8914833
not him but took i took public speaking from IU last year and it was hard as shit... I couldn't even tell you why

>> No.8915906

Graduate level neuroscience. It was a monster.

>> No.8915915

Inventions and Innovation,really supportive teacher but it was mainly engineering stuff I wouldn't need later in college

>> No.8915917

>>8915552
I work whenever I need to I don't have a set schedule. Never taken physics before and Calc 1 was extremelly easy, any advice?

>> No.8915922

>>8915552
To answer your question, I am taking lecture & lab.

>> No.8915951

>>8910479
Quantum field theory/Modern field theory

Shit was literally impossible.
You know it is bad when your 'homework problems' are research topics.
Got an A- in it...

>> No.8916078

>>8910595
WHO R U

>> No.8916087

>>8910482
hi professor novocin

>> No.8916092

>>8910479
A 500 level abstract algebra course. class started with 12 grad kids and me, and it ended with 1 auditing it, 2 other grad kids, and me, with the rest dropped out. Teacher was a prof and the class topic was his speciality.

>> No.8916159

>>8910479
Advanced mathematical physics. Most of it was tensor analysis and manifolds

>> No.8916168

>>8910479
Research statistics

>> No.8916195

i always play the healing/supp class

>> No.8916261

>>8910841
>tfw brainlet chem major doing math minor because he like it
>taking it next semester
Tell me, how hard will my ass get rape

>> No.8916263

>>8910495
Hey I go to UW too

>> No.8916266

>>8911311
Anon, I'm under grad chem
What's master chems like?

>> No.8916278

>>8913026
You are fucking stupid and you deserves what happen to you
Have fun begging

>> No.8916284

>>8910479
Analog electronics because the prof was literal shit. Never worked through a single example the entire second half of the semester, barely posted things like prelabs and hw on time causing either the students having to rush to get them done or them just not being posted. Seriously I have never had a worse prof or teacher at anything. I'm convinced a homeless man who read the right textbook could teach it better than this shitstain.

Thank God I passed the class with a C+. Better than I thought I was gonna do since I pretty much bullshitted the entire final.

>> No.8916287

>>8912134
Took AP physics in HS and loved E and M to death. Everything besides circuits.

Took phys 2 in freshman year of college and loved the class... besides circuits.

Had to take a circuits class for my major and thought I failed it until I got my grade. Lowest grade I've ever got but at least I fucking got the class out of the way. I love everything about E and M but I can't stand circuits.

>> No.8916508

>>8910584
i fucking hated physics 2. Everything else was good though.

>> No.8916812

>>8910584
>>8911123
>>8916508
>>8916287
just got my grade back for physics E&M, found out i got an A in the course

I really did like the class, except for circuits, i had to straight up memorize every single type of circuit instead of learning what makes them different, everything else besides circuits was pretty easy to understand.

Am I a brainlet or is circuits really that fucking difficult?

>> No.8916825

Took grad GR this past semester. Holy fuck, that calculus on manifolds tho

>> No.8916829

>>8916263
Wait which UW, Wisconsin or Washington?

>> No.8916837

>>8916812
Circuits were the easiest part of E&M IMO because they didn't require as much math as everything else.

Your teacher probably taught circuits wrong. They're pretty beautiful once you understand them desu.

>> No.8916969

>>8910479
Cryptology 470
Passed with a D in my Junior yr.
Passed w/ A an B's in 4 other +350 math/cs class that semester.

>> No.8917102

>>8916287
What's wrong with circuits? I know a few ex-EE majors who said circuits was where they changed to compsci or political science, but it doesn't sound too bad to me.

>> No.8917133

>>8916829
...o-or Wyoming, g-guys...

>> No.8917138

>>8915005

Do you mean further maths? Because that is literally dumbed down first year undergrad tier maths.

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>>8912964
Yuma asami DV-1166

>> No.8917473

algebra 2,my gym teacher taught it

>> No.8917696

>>8917451
Arigatou!

>> No.8917748

Applications of econometrics in advanced macroeconomic analysis. It was at 8 am and the professor was monotone.

>> No.8917797

>>8916812
As a first year ECE who is doing iffy in circuits class, they're actually pretty difficult. Requires practice.

>> No.8917896

>>8915192
>one of them is solve RH
>look up solutions, it literally just says the 1/2 in pic related reminds him of Re=1/2 line
lmao wait does mochizuki actually relate IUTT to the RH?

>> No.8917924

>>8917102
Circuits is the first class you actually take in the major though...they must just be brainlets desu

>> No.8917928

>>8917102
>political science
I can kinda understand CS, but no respect for "people" who stoop THAT low. Circuits was difficult for me, but I still stuck with the major. Guess I just have more willpower?

>> No.8917931

>>8910869
I got an A in Calc I, thought it was easier than my algebra/pre-calc classes. But calc II just absolutely kicked my ass because of how much content it contained and how fast we went over it. I too did an 8 week summer course, it was a mistake, fall was better because it was slower pace.

>> No.8917939

>>8917931
So you failed your summer class?

>> No.8917946

I'm >>8915252 and reading >>8917931 is making me nervous as fuck

>> No.8917948

>>8917939
yes. I'm >>8910641

>> No.8917953

>>8917946
Just study trig like a boss, and watch patrick's videos on youtube for your sequences and series if they go over your head and you'll be okay. I didn't look ahead at all to see what I was in for and was blind sided by the amount of trig we did for integrals and the entire chapter on sequences and series. Didn't help my professor didn't allow us a formula sheet so I had to memorize every trig identity known to man, and the unit circle for the polar coordinate chapter.

>> No.8918236

>>8914833
>>8915894

Fellow hoosier here, I just got a fucking B in public speaking. Literally had a 4.0 before this :( I guess it had to end at some point. Pissed that the course that ended my streak is the only one where I am graded on how much I can control my body/voice as opposed to courses that actually grade intelligence.

It would have been a lot less stressful if they had just done it as a pass fail.

What really really pissed me off was that I have actually had to do quite a few public speaking things. Never choked up or fumbled doing these events in front of crowds of people. Then the moment when I have someone in front of me judging my performance with a gradebook, I choke completely. It literally made my public speaking worse. Completely useless class in everyway.

>> No.8918250

>>8910702
Did you get to the part where he stopped using SI?

>> No.8918271

>>8914461
>struggling with Cell Biology

This is bait, right?

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>>8917896
Remark 2.2.1 in IUTT IV

>> No.8918613

>>8910479
statistical thermodynamics

>> No.8919519

History

>> No.8919536

Machine Dynamics.
The concepts aren't difficult at all but we had a shitty professor and all texts on the subject are really old and not suitable for self study.

>> No.8919997

Measure Theory

>> No.8920030

Let me through in another quantum mechanics meme response

>> No.8920156

Advanced Electromagnetics class was the hardest in terms of material so far. There was only 1 other student in the class it was awkward. Probably physics 3 in terms of grades because of the teacher's shitty grading scales.

>> No.8920165

>>8915101
What makes PDE's harder than ODE's?
Doesn't every PDE just break down into a system of ODE's?

>> No.8920181

>>8920165
>Doesn't every PDE just break down into a system of ODE's?

Definitely not

>> No.8920197

Intermediate Fluid Mechanics
Material was interesting just the exams were always new questions unlike anything on the homework

>> No.8920216

>>8918271
No, at some universities upper-division Cell Bio covers an unreasonable amount of topics. None of them are individually hard, but absorbing all it meaningfully and being able to explain the interplay of all the molecules floating around is exhausting. The kind of struggle that goes with it is 1) Finding the time to study and 2) Forcing yourself to actually sit there and read all the shit that happens.

If you haven't studied Bio, that might not paint a meaningful picture. By analogy, it would be like a class that explores every physical concept that goes into a mechanical contraption made of over a trillion parts. Some of them are duplicate parts, some of them are redundant, but plenty operate in different ways and you need to understand more-or-less all of it.

>> No.8920577

>>8910479
Differential equations, it shouldn't of been that hard of a class, but the teacher was an Indian woman who barely spoke English and assigned obscene, inhumane levels of homework. There simply wasn't enough time to review the material and she taught graduate concepts in a undergrad course, that class was hell

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>>8916812
>>8917102
>>8916837

once you have grasped the main concepts behind circuit design (ohms law, RLC, semiconductors) you have the tools to do a ton of upper level stuff.

As far as analog circuits are concerned most other stuff taught in circuits is just clever ways that people have come up with to take advantage of the properties of the base circuit components.

>>8917953
I feel like trigonometry in high school should really emphasize that sin/cos are very important if you decide to do anything with math in your future. I slacked in my sophomore year of high school and as a result struggled with trig when I actually was expected to know a bunch of identities and whatnot in college.

>>8920577
Diff eq is really just an extension of diff/integral calculus, not much else is expanded on besides clever tricks people have come up with

>> No.8921105

I have found a new hardest class: Ethics and Engineering.
We have to read ~70 pages of word salad a week because only brainlets get to the point with minimal filler.

>> No.8921110

Quantum Field Theory II

>> No.8921162

>>8918271
Even though I loved Biology, there was no way in hell I could get a good grade in any of the classes. It was so subjectively graded that I changed my major to math.

It would be like "describe the process of DANA replication." I write down the correct answer, in my own words. "I didn't like the wording you use, it's correct, but I don't like how you explained it."

REEEEE all bio should be multiple choice.

>> No.8921164

>>8917946
I took calc II and thought it was easier than calc I. I wasn't very familiar with trig at the time I was taking it.

>> No.8921204

Am I the only one who finds chemistry incredibly easy? Everything just makes sense somehow. I probably could achieve many things in this field if it wasn't for my lack of interest in chemistry; /pol/ is also to blame lol.

>> No.8921213

>>8921162
I was in the same situation... I was doing well in Biology in the Fall semester, but after taking the redpill on practically everything during the winter break, my Jew teacher started playing tricks on me, telling me that I needed to go in "more depth", despite describing exactly what the question asked, or just as in your case he told me that he did not like my wording. Fucking Jews man...

>> No.8921268

Electromagnetism. I couldn't get my head around how tensors worked. I felt really bad about it too because the professor was a really great guy and was also my project supervisor (which I did really well in).

>> No.8921358

Time series analysis

>> No.8921364

>>8921162
I'm on pretty good terms with my professor and he still does this shit to me. I like biology but I hate the way it's """graded"""

>> No.8921372

anything with thermodynamics and kinetics i bloody hate the equations i just can't wrap my head around them

>> No.8921390

>>8921162
I've encountered a little bit of that in upper-division Bio. Biochemistry 2 exams were all short-answer, and you might need over a page to fully detail the correct response.

Although I once did have a class with actually hard multiple choice. Organ and Cellular Physiology; they were all in the format of A,B,C,D,E: pick the one incorrect statement. And it was always the subtlest of points that made something wrong; I think the second exam had an average of about 40?

>> No.8921888

>>8921268
Fucking tensors, how do they work?

>> No.8921910

>>8910579
That class is probably what the pure math majors do in their third and fourth year.

It's probably just topology, analysis, differential geometry, and some numerical stuff.

>> No.8921914

>>8910506

I'm not even afraid of talking in front of people

the professor was just a huge fag

>> No.8922015

>>8910479
In undergrad?

Algebraic geometry.

>> No.8922020

>>8913627
I'm convinced that algebraic number theorists don't even know what is going on.

>> No.8922508

physics 1,
got a B for the class

physics 2 was much easier and got an A

>> No.8922525

>>8916261
If you like pure math and proofs, then you'll be right. Don't get me wrong, your ass will get raped for a fair portion of the unit, but after enough practice it does get (marginally) easier. Enjoy it!

>> No.8922623

>>8922015
It was taught like a grad level course... He expected that we were taught algebraic number theory and category theory, but I only took the latter.

>> No.8922708

Systems & signals 100%. Was the worst experience in uni for me so far. might've been the prof's teaching of it.

>> No.8922721

>>8911777
a prof who fails the entire class is gonna hafta explain why

>> No.8922723

Advanced Mechanics

I have advanced E&M next semester though, I figure that's going to be harder.

>> No.8922725

>>8922721
Heh, that's what happened in my quantum class. Me and two other guys got As straight earned, the rest of the class (like 9 people) got Cs and below, 0 Bs in the whole class.

He ended up curving the rest of the class so there were 3 As, and then the rest was distributed so nobody got lower than a C.

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>Brainlets
Undergrad is a complete joke.

>> No.8922775

>>8922758
>A+
>4.33
Is this the hallmark of a brainlet school?
What a joke.

>> No.8922786

>>8922758
>intro
>intro
>intro
>calc 1

lmao

nigga you haven't even begun real work wtf are you on

dont get me wrong, it's not like impossibly difficult, but you're in literally the pre-filter stages of whatever major

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>>8914833
>physics
>IU

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Modal logic. Physics is ez af, bros. Git gud.

>> No.8923881

>>8910479
O Chem I, B+

>> No.8923885

>>8916812
> i had to straight up memorize every single type of circuit instead of learning what makes them different
If you ever choose memorization over understanding, you are the very definition of a brainlet.

>> No.8923886

>>8922758
>engineers so dumb they need to take classes to write
Pathetic

>> No.8923887

>>8910479
Comparative Primate Anatomy and Primate Dissections

Cutting up monkeys was cool but being forced to memorize their origins, insertions, innervations, and actions along with the comparative parts was a fucking dud

>> No.8923895

>>8918236
4.0s are for faggots, at least now you have an amusing anecdote about only getting a B in a bullshit class

>> No.8923902

>>8910479
In terms of adjusting to the workload of college classes, I'd say Physics 1. Material-wise, probably Advanced Transport Phenomena.

>> No.8924098

>>8917133
Wait, someone else on /sci/ goes to UWyo?

>> No.8924105

>>8913026
Sounds like my experience. What degree?

>> No.8924108

>>8915007
I've heard this is an absolute nightmare. I've always wondered if it was because Earth Science is a degree known for attracting people who couldn't handle mathematics or because the class is actually hard.

>> No.8924122

Advanced condensed matter was absolutely AIDS lads

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>>8910506
>be sperg my whole life
>stop going to college after freshman year due to cost
>apply to a job at the end of the year that is 100% public speaking and interaction
>lie on application asking if I've completed my public speaking credits
>first 6 months or so are rough, but eventually gain more confidence and learn to talk to people
>several years later have no fear of speaking to groups and can act normal and charming when I want to
>still a sperg inside
Being forced to do something can really help

>> No.8924138

Introduction to Geography can suck my dick. So can any "programming" class.

>> No.8924317

Discrete Math

inb4 pleb, hear me out.

There was just WAY too much material jammed into that class. Logic can be it's own damn course, single week, set theory, again, can be it's own damn course, single week, inductive proofs...you get the image.

>> No.8924368

>>8922758
Anyone with 2 braincells can get As in freshman courses bud. Especially if it is at some grade inflated shit that hands out 4.33 for an A+ and not just a 4

>> No.8924386

I'm a grad student in a computational chem lab, and the hardest courses I ever took were freshman chem and O-chem. Not hard beause the subject was hard; but hard because it was basically impossible for anyone to get anything higher than a B- with critical thinking, it was only possible for people who memozied the whole fucking book.

I got an A, A-, rarely B+ in all my P-chem courses, Quantum Chem, almost everything in my second major (Applied Math), but I got a C+ in both Gen Chem and Orgo.

>> No.8924389

Next semester I'm taking real analysis, abstract algebra, number theory, and a graduate level class on applications of probability theory in finances.

How should i kill myself?

>> No.8924402

Colloids and Surfaces grad class. If the professor had a final instead of a project I would not have passed.

>> No.8924420

>>8910479
Cell membrane/signalling physiology. I fucking hate it.

>> No.8924427

>>8922758
not only does your school give out A+ (pathetic) but you DIDN'T get them in half your freshman courses (calc 1 LOL)
this is not meant to be a joke post, you are literally retarded.

>> No.8924428

>>8910641
Same. I'm not even bad at calc, the curve always ended up higher than what I could compete with though, but I think it was a good experience to have.

>> No.8924466

>>8910506
Me too. Reading "Even a Geek can Speak" kind of helped.

>> No.8924467

Gen Chem II. Wasn't even that hard, I got an A, but considering I'm a Freshman is was the hardest so far.

I thought it was more difficult than multivariable calc, dif eq and linear algebra.

>> No.8924471

>>8910479
3 fucking quarters of quantum mech
after getting C+ each time I literally switched majors from physics to geology
fuck that

>> No.8924865

Algebra II

>> No.8925158

>>8915252
Calc 2's not hard at all, it was my easiest class of the spring semester. Don't know where it gets its reputation from. I had a way easier time with it than calc 1, probably because I was more comfortable with algebra and trig by the time I got to calc 2. Just study and you're good.

>> No.8925281

abstract algebra 1

>> No.8925852

>>8924317
lmao

>>>/brainletfilters/

>> No.8926600

>>8913824
Jewish or Asian
>superior
lol