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Pic related: why humanity is doomed to fail.

>> No.8855849
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8855849

You take that back right now.

Everyone knows IQ tests aren't a valid psychometric.

>> No.8855857

>>8855849
t. butthurt brainlet

>> No.8855863

>>8855844

The IQ distribution doesn't mean humanity is doomed to fail, it just means that we're doomed to fail under a system like democracy that favors the average at the expense of the exceptional.

>> No.8855870

>tfw talking to a sub 100 IQ person is equivalent to an average person talking to a literal retard.

>> No.8855878

>tfw when ~50% of the population is below average intelligence

>> No.8855906

>>8855878
They're all in Africa and India and shit unless you live in some depraved wasteland you'll interact with mostly 100-120

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>>8855849
>Leni will never kidnap you and take you to the basement to tease and torture while Lisa perform experiments on you.

>> No.8855913

>>8855906
isn't there a shitty movie on youtube red that they've been pushing for months now about culling the population of the stupid? you must live there.

>> No.8855918

>>8855906

Sorry buddy that's not how it works. I posit that you're on the wrong side of the line yourself.

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8855931

>take real life IQ test
>they ask me about news and politics that I don't follow
>get average
She even commented on my number memory being good.
ITS
NOT
FAIR

>> No.8855941

>tfw a 116 IQ brainlet according to an IQ test administered by the military
Not a moron but I can't exactly feel good about this.

>> No.8855944

>>8855941
IQ literaly means nothing. you can improve your IQ by like 10-15 points by just studying their shit tests. IQ is only good at finding out who is a moron that beats their ego off with useless metrics.

>> No.8855955

>>8855944
Yeah it can't measure ability since much of it is based on knowledge you acquire during life but you gotta play the meme game senpai.

>> No.8855964

>>8855844
People are pretty willing to trust smarter people, if not for propaganda. We have a solid and good natural mechanism, it's just cucked.

>> No.8855966

>>8855844
We've come this far anon. Contrary to what /sci/ believes there are more smart people alive today than ever before.

>>8855849
Yeah it's not like it's the biggest predictor of academic success or anything

>> No.8855973

>>8855966

There are also more stupid people than ever before.

>> No.8855977

>>8855931
>they ask me about news and politics that I don't follow
What the fuck kind of IQ test is that? Isn't it supposed to be all abstract stuff?

>> No.8855987

>>8855849
>Literally dictates likelihood of future imprisonment, early child-birth, etc
>Not a valid psychometric

>> No.8856086

>tfw 130
>tfw still stupid

>> No.8856151

>>8855844
>tfw IQ of 90

>> No.8856161

>>8856086

Do you ever feel really stupid in the real world?

I got a good score on an IQ test, but the average person is like a genius at solving really basic problems like knowing how to dig a hole, pick-up objects a certain way, etc.

>> No.8856167

>>8855906
>They're all in Africa and India
not anymore :^)

>> No.8856171

IQ tests are valid but people need to stop looking at their preciseness with religious fervor.

If you score 130 you're smarter than someone who scores 80 without accounting for some completely unheard of third variable nobody could even conceive of predicting for.

If you score 115 and someone else scores 114, that doesn't mean shit.

>> No.8856173

>>8856161

They didn't invent those things, they were taught how to do them.

>> No.8856180

>>8856173
I can't necessarily say that that's true for everyone.

Some things are totally foreign for them to handle, and I see the same adaptability everywhere.

It may be due to the prior bed-rock of common sense though.

>> No.8856184

>>8856173
I guess that's a good example of a meme.

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>>8855844
My mom took me to a psychiatrist when I was young and we got an official IQ tst. Apparently I was in the 140+ iq range, but once you get to a certain point it's hard to measure accurately...

I say all this not to jerk myself off with false bravado, but to cushion the fact that I'm bad at math and struggle with it. Barely passed Calc 2. I have a Double Masters in Biology and History and work as a high school teacher at a rich white high school. Cushy job, just got tapped about potentially becoming a principle.

>> No.8856193

>>8856190
Fuck,
*double bachelors

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>>8856190
How do you know your brain didn't develop and morph and cast your IQ to the 100 range?

>> No.8856322

>>8856190

Yet you come on here to crow about it like some insecure toddler. We're not here to talk about special snowflakes but to discuss the human condition: a mass of automatons, an elite of manipulators and a subset of innovators.

>> No.8856331

>>8855987
There is a correlation, but that doesn't mean it's a valid measure of inteligence, becouse it doesn't only correlate with intel.

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>>8856322
This tbqf. Well said anon

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>>8855844
>normal distribution curve
Nice bait, 30 replies not bad.

>> No.8856479

>>8856331
>There is a correlation

It's certainly efficient at discovering who's stupid.

Why not vice versa?

>> No.8856534

>>8855849

They directly measure your ability to induct rules from shown examples. They directly measure your ability to reason thorough complicated problems. They directly measure your ability to make an educated guess when presented with vague initial conditions.

Sounds like. A valid test of every important reasoning skill we have. Since we can't directly measure the brains ability to reason, we have to present it with a series of "can you figure out the trick?" Problems that act as a filter, ruling out certain levels of inteligence.

Similarly: since we can't (within reason) directly measure the efficiency of one side lungsheart, muscles... etc, we have to design a proxy test that indirectly measures their efficiency. This is called running.

>> No.8856550

>>8855944

This is wrong.

Unfortunately, brains are pretty good at learning how to do things. An IQ test is designed to resent the brain with new problems with new information to see how fast it can understand the problem and reason through it. If the IQ test does not present the brain with new problems then it really isn't a real test of inteligence.

> inb4 no true Scotsman

In this case no true Scotsman is not applicable, as the validity of an individual Inteligence test is the exact th in general in question here.

>> No.8856567

>>8856534
I agree with all that, but it's also true that your IQ can change depending on what you learn and how you live. Similar to running.
>>8856550
You can learn to be better at those sorts of problems. A simple explanation of how the problems work generally means your score will increase. This explanation can come in many forms.

>Woodley and Meisenberg (2012)
noted that gloadings on IQ subtests do not
correlate with temporal gains on subtests
and speculated that the citizens of develop-
ing countries, because of their genetic in-
feriority, will show lower gains on high
g-loaded tests (for which scores are more
heritable) than on low g-loaded tests. Small
gains for highly g-loaded tests seem un-
likely to us. Gains in sub-Saharan African
countries of 0.50 to 0.70 SD in response to
a few months of Western-style education
have been reported for heavily g-loaded
fluid intelligence tests (McFie, 1961). And
a brief training session on Raven’s Progres-
sive Matrices— often regarded as a virtu-
ally pure measure of g—increased the
scores of Black Africans by 14 points while
increasing the scores of Whites by only 4
points (Skuy et al., 2002

Group Differences in IQ Are Best Understood as Environmental in Origin (PDF Download Available). Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/230828068_Group_Differences_in_IQ_Are_Best_Understood_as_Environmental_in_Origin [accessed Apr 25, 2017].

>inb4 niggers hurr durr
the post is meant about iQ not the white-african gap

>> No.8856659

>>8856567
With IQ tests there actually is no true scotsman

http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/papers/Files/QRG_Dist_Files/QRG_2010/Lovett_CogSci10_Ravens_Final.pdf

tldr; a Lisp script designed to classify and reproduce hand-drawn sketches can be repurposed for IQ tests and scores >1SD above the average white male

Furthermore we can intentionally lower the "IQ" of the machine by just altering the amount of practice it gets drawing little cats and dogs. Obviously IQ tests are almost entirely nurture.

>> No.8856662

>>8856659
Meant for >>8856550

>> No.8856702

>>8855878
>>tfw when

>> No.8856713

>>8856161
I feel this way all of the time. I have a pretty iq, but feel pretty non functional compared to other people when it comes to everyday life.

>> No.8856714

>>8855878
Isnt that implied by "average intelligence"
Regardless of the IQ there will always be 50% below average

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>>8856713
Do you also not stare at pretty women like other men do?

I've never checked a girl out in my life, but I am straight man.

>> No.8856847

>>8856659
I believe this is true, but it falls apart when it comes to first world nutrition and education between whites and blacks.

>> No.8856873

>>8856714
I'm not sure how to say this anon but I believe that was the joke.

>> No.8856879

>>8856659
>>>8856567 #
>With IQ tests there actually is no true scotsman
>http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/papers/Files/QRG_Dist_Files/QRG_2010/Lovett_CogSci10_Ravens_Final.pdf

I refute this because the program is just extrordinarily good at educated guessing. When humans do the test, they must use their inteligence to logically deduce the answer via inducted rules. When the machine does the test, it is essentially cheating. If a human had a comparable amount of practice then it will do just as well, if not better. What this is doing is comparing a machine evolved specificly to be able to do these things to a human that ideally has never been exposed to them before.

With humans, you rarely find the pattern recognition ability without similar capacity for other types of abstract problems. When you do find this singular ability it is often paired with the lack of all other abilities (usually known as a savant)

>> No.8856916

>>8856659
Machines can connect to the internet. QED humans could connect to the internet if they just tried hard enough.
Thanks Science!!

>> No.8856939

>>8855863

>a drmocratic system that favors the average over the exceptional

But that's wrong. If anything average people are complaining that the exceptional are excelling too much.

Conversely if if you are not exceeding then you are not exceptional.

>> No.8856954

Humanity is doomed because of statistical normalization?

>> No.8856977

My IQ was measured throughout my youth without my knowledge, and was consistently around 150.

I dated a girl with an average IQ once and it literally felt like I was talking to a child. Even now I'm dating a girl with about a 120 IQ and I have to pretend not to know things and pretend to lose debates so as not to hurt her ego since I've never lost a debate with her (even when I'm probably coming from an incorrect premise).

It's pretty weird thinking how people can't just intuitively make connections like I can. It's also interesting how I have in fact met people who are more intelligent than I am, so I cannot imagine what their lives must be like, where no one can keep up with you.

>> No.8857044

>>8856977

It's hard. Often times people come to me with their c programming sssignments for help. I always see them spending a shitload of time with some cumbersome soloution that may or may not work. Then they're impressed when I offer an incredibly simple soloution that anybody should have been able to see in ten seconds. Only not anybody can see it. It pains me to think that I am considered special just because I can do something that Is really easy.

>> No.8857215

>>8855878
then it's not AVERAGE intelligence.
IQ is a spook

>> No.8857363

>>8856977
>>8857044
It's kind of strange, but I constantly see people that have out of this world IQs landing on the same things that I see, and I'd say I'm a bit above average.

It feels like it'd be useless to be so intelligent in this world.

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>>8855844
>take mensa 3 times
>137
>130
>135
>be the worst student at uni in my group

That test doesn't mean jackshit anons.

>> No.8857439

>>8856847
if you think blacks get equal nutrition/education on average you're not properly informed desu

>> No.8857448

If we're doomed to fail, then why have been been making steady progress from untanned hides and knapped flint to rockets, the internet and nuclear power? We continue to achieve, develop our technology, and increase in number. Seems like, despite the morons always having been among us, the 20% or so who do most of the work continue to drag everybody else along with them.

Always been that way, likely always will be that way.

>> No.8857454

>spergs itt believing they're just so intelligent and that's why their lives suck

No. Your lives suck because you're social retards. That's not because of your IQ.

>> No.8857461

>>8857439
I forgot to include the word wealthy, sorry.

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>>8857388
Wew lad, averaging 130-something really doesn't make any difference compared to scoring ~100. What did you expect? Mensa level is nothing.

Also the people you compare yourself to are most likely to score somewhere around 110-120 so the gap is even smaller. You are the worst because you lack discipline.

>> No.8857476

>>8855931
>would you have/did you vote for Donald Trump?
>no
>instantly lose 30 iq points
Sorry anon, you just can't reason.

>> No.8857482

>>8857476
>Would you vote for an incestuous, elderly coccaine addict that spends more time at his daughter's side than his wifes?

>> No.8857486

>>8856977
>I dated a girl with an average IQ once and it literally felt like I was talking to a child
Oh, that's normal anon, don't worry.

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>>8857482

Only if it would be good for the country..

Hey, look!

>> No.8857507

>>8857463
>Mensa level is nothing
>98% of people fail the Mensa test

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>>8857507
I may have been exaggerating with the "nothing" but you shouldn't expect anything unusual in the 1/50 level. Guys like >>8856977 are the interesting ones.

>> No.8857599

>>8855844
t. 111 IQ

>> No.8857620

without reading this thread, I'm going to guess that there's plenty of 120 IQ brainlets who think they're 160+ from meme tests like the WAIS-IV or Stanford-Binet, instead of reliable ones like the RAVEN, and use scores from when they were 10-17

No one in this thread has an IQ higher than 140.

t. 140 IQ

>> No.8857629

>Have around a 116 IQ
>go to Caltech and consistently get the highest grades in the class (studying EE)

What did my IQ mean by this?

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>>8855987
wow u really convinced me with those hot arguments senpai

>> No.8857644

>>8857629
As long as you're not mentally disabled, you can learn stuff if you try hard enough. You're probably not the best at understanding complex abstract ideas, but there's nothing limiting your ability to learn concrete information.

>> No.8857649

>>8857599
underrated

>> No.8857661

>>8857594
I doubt he's telling the truth, or if he is, he probably took meme IQ tests like the WAIS-IV. The only guy I've met with a verified 148 IQ is 16 and is a grad student at Berkeley, got a 2400 on the SAT at 11, and got his Bachelor's in Math at 14. He has amazing processing speeds, like multiplying 9 digit numbers instantly or taking square roots instantly, as well. These people are barely human. 130+, when not going by /sci/ meme standards, is pretty great. I'm not even that guy. I have no idea what my IQ is, but I doubt it's higher than 120.

>> No.8857664

>>8856977
fake.
If you really were intelligent and had an IQ of 150, you'd have done something important already instead of dating girls

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>>8857629
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP YOU WORKED HARD BRAINLET

>> No.8857694

>>8857463
This anon isn't lying. The last official test I took for my IQ said 114. People who I would trust to be more deductive/inductive than I am have told me that I sound like a 130-something. Maybe, but the reality is that I work hard to understand. I get thorough. I don't cheat myself by using my better-than-average memory alone; I go back and re-learn everything there is to know about said topic/s as best as I can. Then I ask questions, no matter how brainlet-tier, so I don't have to remain confused. Then I write it down by hand. Then I actively seek it out when I'm twiddling my thumbs idly, and question it. I observe it in nature, if that's where it is.

But seriously. Either everyone around me has memory problems, or I'm up there on the special snowflake scale.

>> No.8857697

You're all dumb, I'm the best

>> No.8857756

>>8857697
My maths teacher used to say that. Needless to say he was a pervert and I got higher studying on my own than studying with him

>> No.8857851

>discussion devolves into brainlets dick waving over IQ scores and debating whether IQ is actually a valid metric
>confirms OP's premise

>> No.8857947

>>8857044
Can very much relate to the programming thing. Took a programming class for fun in college and when I would help peers with these week long projects it would take me 30 minutes to do, and it would take multiple hours of explaining things to them for them to get it.

>>8857486
I have met exactly 3 girls who I believe are "smarter" than me (in the sense that they are able to pick up and use information better than I am). Studies haven't pointed out a huge gender IQ gap last I checked so I really don't put much stock into the whole "women have the mentality of children" concept. The true reality is that looks and such advantage women more than men so women of lower intelligence are probably better able to creep into your (likely upper middle class) circle than dumb men. At least that's how I see it.

>>8857661
Couldn't tell ya what I was given, because I don't really care. I've always known I was quite intelligent and others have always told me the same my entire life. I only know that my mother and a few family friends who were involved in my education confirmed the story.

>> No.8857970

>>8857947
Men and women have similar average IQs almost by coincidence because the female distribution has far fewer geniuses and far fewer retards. As much as people run with "girls are dumb" rhetoric, the <80 cohort is overwhelmingly male.

>> No.8857988
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>>8855844
No, it's why vanilla direct democracy is shit.
Voting for people that will choose for you what's supposed to be good for you is even worse and not a solution.

We should have referendums answering specific problems (not voting for politician assholes), and the first page of the ballot should be a short test of your political awerness. The weight of your vote would depend on your score.

The fact there is a test would filter out most morons anyway - they wouldn't want to take it.

Of course creating proper unbiased questions and all that is a big problem (he who makes the questions makes the politics). But it's doable to streamline creating the tests and the referendum questions more or less unbiased. Just a lot of legislative work.

What's not doable is to change anything since 99% of society has actually no saying in the decisionmaking of "democratic" nation. They just think they do. And even if they had - they wouldn't want to give up that right. Not to the rich but to the smart 1%.

So ye, you're probably right.

Am I elitist now?

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8858564

>>8855844
Cycle will repeat. Cataclysms will happen. We will find spirituality again and take psychedelics to regain high level thinking.

>> No.8858588

Well if it bugs you so much. Take your high IQ and become an educator. It would be the most generous thing you can do to remedy the situation. What now, bitch? Fite me. REEEEEE

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8858623

Do you guys know if prolonged periods of stress and isolation could have a negative impact on IQ, permanently?

I remember feeling pretty sharp and manic most of the time 5 years ago, my brain was flashing with information that flowed all by itself. Nowadays my mind is just blank, disassociated and very slow.

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>>8855844
>tfw 3 standard deviations below the meme
Who bottom 0.3% here?

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8858786

Is this real?

>http://paulcooijmans.com/intelligence/iq_ranges.html
Someone with an IQ of 100 cannot pick up a book on it's own and learn by themselves?

>> No.8858870

>>8856879
>He didn't read the paper
Cogsketch wasn't built to do this test though. Also the computer has not "seen" the test before. The script is restarted from zero every time. It has no built in training data from previous tests runs, the only training it brings is its practice drawing little sketches.

>> No.8858899

>>8857633
This is actually showing something meaningful, that civil engineers have good fucking taste.

>> No.8858906

>>8858623
Yeah, cognitive depression. If you abused substances or are currently suffering a bout of mental illness your intelligence usually decreases in kind.

>> No.8859583

>>8858588

>doesn't understand the difference between intelligence and education

One can't teach intelligence...

>frogposter

Touche!

>> No.8859636

>>8857633
Correlation isn't causation, but it's certainly a good hint.

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>tfw consistently score 90 on iq tests but am the smartest person in my community college algebra course
heh

>> No.8859706

>>8858786
I think it might be.
I know a guy that prided himself on his ability to do such a thing.

>> No.8859816

>>8855844
>Make IQ (100% a human invention) a normal distribution
>Adapt it from time to time to make sure it still is a normal distribution
>"Humanity is doomed to fail because most people are not above the 66th percentile"
/sci/ once again not understanding basic statistics

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>>8859656
good for you, but keep in mind that being the smartest person in a room stops you from developing further

>> No.8859859

>>8859816

>perform mental gymnastics to salve fragile ego due to being mid-tier intelligence
>to an intelligent person the pathetic mental gymnastics are equivalent to watching a mongoloid doing somersaults

Thanks for the giggle, dummy.

>> No.8859927

>>8859859
Are you illiterate?

>> No.8859929

>>8859656
Because intelligent people took fucking algebra in 7th grade, not goddamned community college, Jesus Christ

>> No.8859931

God this is so fucking stupid.

We design the IQ test so the mean is 100. Humanity is doomed because most of the population has average intelligence? Oh no.

>> No.8859953

>>8859931

100 is an abitrary number, perhaps. But that intelligence level is not arbitrary and is infact no better than an automaton. To an actual intelligent person, engaging with a median intelligence is equivalent to a median intelligence engaging with a down's syndrome child.

>> No.8859958

>>8855849
Leni is truly best girl

>> No.8859963

>>8859953
>To an actual intelligent person, engaging with a median intelligence is equivalent to a median intelligence engaging with a down's syndrome child.
Lol, no. Mental disorders like that affect social ability as well. As long as the genius isn't an autistic fuck, they can interact with average people just fine, and considering the nature of specialization, there are subjects many average people will know far more about than the genius, so he could always even learn from them.

>> No.8859967

>>8859953
That thought pattern is disgusting.

Even when I converse with the legitimately mentally handicapped, such a thought doesn't emerge in my head.

I don't make a lot of friends easily now that I'm not a child, but I don't consider myself superior to other human beings.

I believe there's a limitless depth to all people in this world. There's so much to learn when you hear what people think and say.

>> No.8860206

>>8855844
>be 374 IQ superhuman
>have created thousands of proven theories on physics
>have perfected nanomachines and artificial intelligence
>made contact with atleast 7 alien species through quantum entanglement
>tfw don't want to share this with the world because humans on this planet only do dangerous, threatening things to themselves with things they are not prepared for.
I've shared all my findings with my AI and my AI will share these with the world once it has deemed you all on as intelligent as me, if that would take 6000 years of human evolution, so be it.
i dont hate you people though, i enjoy the occasional banter with you monkeys (heh)

>> No.8860220

>>8860206
Get the fuck outta here

>> No.8860270

>tfw too intelligent to take IQ tests
>tfw get bored and end up guessing on patterns
>Tfw too lazy to figure it out

>> No.8860273

>>8855844
105+ is pretty good.

>>8855849
t. nigger

>> No.8860279

>>8855849
Hello carl

>> No.8860284

>>8857633
IQ relations have been adjusted for several psychosocial factors and the relation remains, try harder.

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8860565

>tfw 123 IQ
>Schizoid
>Zero motivation

>I could be learning something and having fun right now
>But the dopamine is just not there

>> No.8860717

>>8857629
you were high while taking the test

ALSO FUCK CHAPTA

>> No.8861362

>>8859963
>>8859967


>says the brainlet

>> No.8861373

>>8860206
Can you take me on as an apprentice? I can learn all you have to teach me and help to continue a lineage of supermen using homosexual reproduction with other such supermen you deem worthy.

>> No.8861384
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>>8857633
step up ur game

>> No.8861523

>>8859967

It's not meant with derision, but do you engage on the level with a mentally handicapped person as you would soneone of your own intelligence? Well that's what it's like being intelligent and talking to anyone.

IQ isn't an insult, it's a measurement.

>> No.8861708

>>8856171
Well ye they generally might be good for rough estimates. But I wouldn't say anything concrete about person based on IQ test.

>inb4 brainlet

>> No.8861713

>>8856190
>I say all this not to jerk myself off with false bravado
>makes long post about it.

whew you truly are a faggot

>> No.8861734

>>8855844
>relative metric based on standard normal distribution
>wonder why the average of a relative metric is always relatively average to the population

You may have a point, but your abduction is certainly wrong

>> No.8862589

>>8855844
>tfw somewhere above 150 but still struggling

Why does it hurt so much, /sci/?

>> No.8862602

>>8856916
>posted over the internet

Machine detected

>> No.8862629

>>8859929
S A V A G E

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>>8855844
Retard mongrel online IQ tests say I have an 140 IQ.
They are obviously not true though, and I'm guessing it's just the metric of reaffirmation for the brainlets in this thread.

The average IQ for my degree is approximately 110. So without wasting 3-4 hours of my life doing IQ tests. I'd assume my actual IQ is just 110.

I do hope people actually recognise the failures of the IQ test. There are way too many factors that affect brain power. And I hardly recognise more than, 30% of this forum being above 120 IQ, so there is obviously an entire pool of brainlets who are gullible enough to believe any complimentary information they can get about their insecure intelligence.

>> No.8862651

>>8860565
Moron.
Sit outside in the cold for half an hour, recollect your thoughts and just walk back in and start doing something right away.

>> No.8862843

>>8856714
It's possible for the majority to be above or below the average. For example, the average person has less than two eyes.

>> No.8862854

people seem to forget that you can pretty much increase your iq by practice (in math, science, literature) though you wont immediately get higher iq but it I'll improve slowly but surely. also iq isnt a 100% accurate measurement of intelligence its accurate to some degree (pretty accurate to tell straight retardation, autism etc) other than that its not so accurate

>> No.8862933

>>8862647

OP here. I've observed two types of post in this thread: Those who crow about their IQ and those who dismiss IQ likely because they're not in the high range. But neither post addresses the basic premise of OP.

Protip: if you can't figure out the premise, you aren't on the right side of the stats.

>> No.8862943

>>8862933
i doubt you are OP, but anyways, i have a 145 IQ

apparently this IQ means i'm supposed to learn new stuff quickly. sure doesn't feel that way ..

i question whether IQ really measures intelligence at all to be quite honest

>> No.8862965

>>8862943

Judging by your grasp of English, you probably don't read very often. I seriously doubt you are even a potato.

>> No.8863234

I have 130 iq, i study CS and i am the worst in my group. Lustful baboons around are much smarter and more cunning than me. I plan to drop uni this summer

>> No.8863276

>>8862933
What about the people here who have a high IQ but still dismiss it becuase they're fucking miserable and are completley unaccomplished?

>> No.8863295

>>8855844
IQ is not real fucking retard.

>> No.8863296

>>8855849
Pretty good trigger discipline for a ditzy, blonde cartoon girl.

>> No.8863565

>>8862651

I will give it a try. I miss feeling manic.

>> No.8863761

>>8857661
IQ when you're young and IQ when you're an adult is different.
I got tested twice at 150 as a child, I advanced 3 classes and couldn't relate to people my age. Adults around me always thought I was going to amount to something later in life, but it turned out I was lazy, easily bored, with a ridiculously short attention span, which made me neglect everything that could relate to effort and school.

Now I'm just a random relatively smart guy among others at an entry-level analyst position. If I were to guess I'd put myself with the brainlets in the 110s or 120s, nothing higher. I think I just grew/developped earlier, and that it's the main reason so many "prodigy child" end up relatively normal (or failures, if they collapsed under the expectations of others).

>> No.8863786

>>8855857
>>8855966
Human brain power hasn't really changed in the last 20 thousand years or so but a random idiot today is smarter than the smartest people from a few hundred years ago.

>> No.8863788

>>8855844
IQ is a test for determining if someone is retarded not if someone is smart. It's like using a table thermometer to measure the center of the Earth, you can get a correlation but that's not what it's meant for and your results are gonna be inaccurate.

>> No.8863799

>>8863786
That's a hard no. Public health has done wonders for intelligence and widespread reduction in malnutrition has bolstered this as well. Also humans are in a period of the fastest evolution we, as a species, have ever encountered. We are most definitely smarter then those even a hundred years ago because of education availability and proper nutrition preventing shit like iodine deficiencies.

>> No.8864748

Since you are all such dullards I'll spell it out for you: IQ distribution shows that 70% of humanity has an IQ between 85 and 115. While someone within that range is capable of learning complex things, their understanding of the same is limited.

Of the remainder, there is a rough equivalence of geniuses to potatoes.Humanity as a whole isn't particularly bright.

>> No.8864759

>tfw scored an 87 on an iq test
>passed with a b
>now working on math phd

>> No.8864796

>>8864759

Rote vs innovation.

>> No.8865122

>>8864759
You give me hope. I score similarly on IQ tests and am currently pursuing a math degree.

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>>8864748

>> No.8865962

>>8855844
>tfw tested at 111 iq
a-am I smart?

>> No.8865970

>>8864759
>>8865122
what the fuck?

>> No.8865974

>>8857694
>Then I ask questions, no matter how brainlet-tier
This is pretty much the key, along with as much exposure to the topic as needed, like you mentioned. Too many people are afraid to ask questions to get a solid foundation in common topics, because somehow there's a perception that everyone should have a basic understanding of certain subjects when the reality is a lot of people don't know the first thing about them.

>> No.8865979

>>8863799
>what is collective intelligence?
proper nutrition does help the population of the study but on an individual basis it is statistically irrelivant.
admit it. if you didnt have all the infirmation in the world youd be eating your own poop and fucking rocks.

>> No.8865980

The IQ test doesn't measure intelligence. There will probably never be a sound metric for determining intelligence.

>> No.8866072

Is Modafinil the only hope for seemingly smart people who are inherently lazy?

>> No.8866228

If you killed everyone with a sub 100 IQ, then 100 IQ would be much more intelligent. Do this every generation and before you know it the world is 500 million super-intelligent people.

>> No.8866290

>>8865979
True. I'm sorry for not properly assessing your statement <3

>> No.8866370

>>8865970

IQ measures ability to recognize patterns, you can just learn the pattern from a book and memorize it.

>> No.8866632

>>8857454
Intelligence is a big contributor to this.

It becomes incredibly hard to relate to most people you interact with, making even attempting to socialize unrewarding in the end.

I can't wear the mask all day, anon.

>> No.8866636

>>8866632
Yet here you are, socializing like a thirsty beggar in the street. Who the fuck are you fooling, you dumb shit?

>> No.8866640

>>8866636
Because surprisingly, 4chan is filled with people on a similar level and I can vomit whatever is in my brain all over without hurting anybodies feelings or being cast out.

>> No.8866653

>>8865974
Discipline and desire beat intelligence. Ive always been smart but depression/laziness /fear has crippled me most of my life.

I recently became much more disciplined and now i can do anything

>> No.8868033

>>8857988
LMAO JUST PUT A TEST ON THE FRONT DUUUDE
ITS NOT LIKE THE CONTENT OF THE TEST IS IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE OR ANYTHING AND COULD BE MANIPULATED
IT'LL KEEP ALL THE BRAINLETS OUT LMAO

>> No.8868311

>>8862965
>Your use of punctuation is poor, therefore you are an idiot.
Or he's phoneposting. No offense, but if that's the best you can come up with, you might be the potato here.

>> No.8868441

>>8856190
That's nothing. I got a tested and my IQ is close to 250. I won the fields medal and fuck my model wife every night