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8855234 No.8855234 [Reply] [Original]

How do I get out of determinism hell?

>> No.8855258

>>8855234

Become God.

>> No.8855259

>>8855234
no way out

>> No.8855262
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8855262

easy

>if the world is determined
who cares you're gonna do what you're gonna do
>if the world is not determined
who cares you're gonna do what you're gonna do

>> No.8855264

Free will and determinism aren't mutually exclusive.

>> No.8855267

Determination

>> No.8855284
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>>8855234
Take solace in the fact that, even though your actions are predetermined by the Newtonian world-machine, neither you nor anyone else has the knowledge necessary to actually predict things you do. If YOU don't know, it's all random to you.

Or maybe understand that the alternative to predetermination is an element of unpredictableness--randomness--that supercedes your thought process.

If you're unpredictable through randomness, you're even less of a "self" than you are in determinism, since you don't even have the APPEARANCE of control.

tl;dr if it's determined you're just a cog, if it's not predetermined you're beyond your own control

>> No.8855300

>>8855234
kill Yourself

>> No.8855318

Transcend the universe, or have a Deus ex time machine. I honestly think it might not be possible

>> No.8855337

Realize that you have full control over your choices and stop denying agency like a child.

>> No.8855354
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>>8855234
Don't think about it


unless you were predetermined to then
fuck

>> No.8855362

>>8855234
You just have to choose to get out :^)

>> No.8855396

>just be yourself
>you should look into buddhism bro
>try some hallucinogenics, everything will make sense

What other shitty meme advice gets passed off these days?

>> No.8855769

>>8855234
Justify a belief in free will via pragmatism.

>> No.8855791

By realizing it is false.

>> No.8855805

>>8855234
Become determined.
In life everything you do has a multiplying effect ofver time.
Determined people in a determined world short cirquit the machine.

Minus by minus = plus

>> No.8855830

By fucking off to >>>/his/

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>>8855234
You're so deep into it that you can't feel it.

You're already out.