/sci/ - Science & Math

>>8747764
>binge eating
>loss of appetite

>>8747768
Food still tastes good

>>8747764
You don't have cancer you fucking idiot.

>>8747779
Jesus Christ you are a fucking idiot, it's beyond belief.

>>8747779
>Appetite is the desire to eat food, sometimes due to hunger. Appealing foods can stimulate appetite even when hunger is absent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appetite

dude imagine if the guy actually has lung cancer and dies

op can you instruct a relative to come here and tell us if you happen to die of cancer
it'll be the ultimate 'i told you so'

>>8747789
he's been shitposting the exact same symptoms here for ages with no progression

nigga'd be dead long ago if he actually had cancer

>>8747789
you know he'll probably have like 5 years ahead of him to tell us himself, when he does in fact get cancer. Btw I'm a doctor and I could easily lift up your anxiety op, but I won't because that's just how I am

>>8747764
Okay what you need to do is give us information, maybe we can solve your problem, whats your age? ethnicity? since when everything began and how did it evolve? More information is needed, how about you greentext?

>>8747764
You're lucky he hasn't had you involuntarily committed yet.

>>8747793
Dont even consider yourself a doctor then, such a disgrace to medicine and Hippocrate

>>8747794
Dude, shut the fuck up

>>8747800
my stamp doesn't seem to care

>>8747784
medical definition of loss of appetite really means loss of hunger. which is what i have. eating is still something i enjoy doing but i have no hunger

>>8747794
>25
>white
>lost my appetite like 7 months ago, cough came on about a month ago along with headaches.

>>8747764
>have symptoms of depression
>admit to having depression
>likely doesn't get therapy for depression and blame it on imaginary diseases instead
it's actually easier to treat cancer than this

>>8747829
doctors have already given me anti-depressants. they havn't done shit. i know i have lung cancer i just can't get anyone to actually diagnose me

>>8747837
I said therapy, not medication. medication alone ain't worth shit. And no, you don't have anything in your lungs and if even random people on the internet can figure that out, that should tell you something about yourself

>>8747837
You really should invest your time and energy into going to a psychotherapist to talk through your delusions though. I honestly think it's a serious mental illness that should be treated. The sooner you realize this, the better. Fantasizing about having cancer all day is not exactly something anyone should do. And I'm pretty sure you secretly know you are fantasizing these things.

>>8747764
>>8747829

Losing your appetite and thinking you have cancer is silly. I'm a practicing radiologist of almost 10 years(i'm on vacation right now). If that is the actual x-ray that was taken at a reasonable radiation dose, you don't have lung cancer. There is absolutely nothing on that image that looks like cancer. You're a hypochondriac and need to accept that and see a psychologist or get over it. All you're really doing is increasing your risk of cancer through all of these x-rays, although a very small increase that is barely worth mentioning at all.

>>8747858
that isn't it's just a image of google. I have no copy of my x-ray, just a report saying 'no obvious focal lesions', the wording doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence, desu

>>8747843
yeah cause talking to some condescending twat is going to make my cough go away

>>8747893
When I get nervous I start coughing. You might be having the same problem. And seriously you probably just caught a cold.

>>8747893
hey, you're the one who's obsessing over meaningless stuff

>>8747900
i've had it for a month

>>8747865
We word reports like that because even with our expertise, it is possible that we miss something, but the chance of that is extremely low, and a lung cancer screening is absolutely not one of those areas where we make mistakes anyway. The term "obvious" in that note is just saying that your symptoms are not congruent with such a diagnosis.

Having a cough != lung cancer

Just as in the other thread about x-rays/CT scans and cancer risk, getting a CT scan or x-rays != cancer

We have loads of things that make us cough, and lung cancer is just the most romantic one out of all of them, seeing people in movies (Gran Torino) or television shows(Breaking Bad) coughing up blood in every other scene. It's dramatic and heart breaking, but it's almost never from having lung cancer.

This is not to mention that cancer in a male from 18-28 is rarer than just about any time in any one lifespan.

>>8747906
So loss of appetite and a somewhat persistent cough is enough reason for you to assume you have fucking lung cancer? There are a million reasons to have those symptoms man. In particular, psychosomatic reasons which I''m pretty sure applies to your case.

Honestly, why do you come here and make the same threads over and over? Nobody here takes you seriously, everybody has seen your threads a million times already. Seek actual help, at least try to work out your problems. Nobody is going to give you a reason to be miserable, so stop hoping for fucking cancer.

>>8747915
it's the cough on top of everything else that is the issue i.e the long standing loss of hunger. i never thought about my lungs months ago because of the lack of respiratory symptoms, but now i do have a cough. and i know it's extremely rare, but at university i used to pretty much chain smoke when drunk(and i was drunk a lot like any college students), and well, i'm concerned. studies i have seen online prove that x-ray isnt particularly good for lung cancer, overall. i would have thought that someone who has had symptoms for 6 months any lung cancer would show up on x-ray, but you cant discount the possibility of the interpreter having an 'off-day'. i really would like a ct scan to put my mind at rest but doctors just won't budge

>>8747837
>i know i have lung cancer i just can't get anyone to actually diagnose me

this is now a bait thread

>>8747931
we're honestly talking about a physical lack of hunger here. i would call that a cancer redflag. if i was a dog, for example, i would have died months ago from malnutrition simply because of the lack of instinctive food seeking that i have. i'm a human so i know better , and may just indulge in eating for the 'hell of it because it tastes nice', like i have been. but all in all i'm not really sure what else could cause such a state of being apart from cancer, i doubt i have an infection or any chronic hormonal condition.

>>8747947
You clearly don't understand what a loss of appetite means.

>>8747947
>i would call that a cancer redflag
I'm a doctor and I would call that having anxiety/depression. You have no reason to believe that you have cancer.

>>8747951
medical 'loss of appetite'=medical anorexia. which means loss of hunger. i can still enjoy the taste of food, doctors in the uk are generally so clueless and they just dont understand this, which is why they're not taking me seriously

>>8747947
>we're honestly talking about a physical lack of hunger here.
We are honestly not. You literally got fatter for Christ's sake. You don't binge eat when you have a "physical lack of hunger". It doesn't matter whether food tastes good to you or not. When you feel no hunger any longer, you don't feel like eating. If you think about food and feel like eating some, than that is literally appetite. You should make up better symptoms that are hard to objectively measure.

>>8747956
i said earlier i'm on SSRIs, which doctors have given me as they written me off as a headcase. i still have no feeling of hunger. ever. hence i know there is a phsyical cause. and from there i know it's very unlikely to be anything except cancer

>>8747962
>and from there i know it's very unlikely to be anything except cancer
What exactly is the extent of your knowledge of biology?

>>8747960
yes, because i'm fucking bored and depressed about my condition, my life isn't moving forward, i i still enjoy eating to take my mind off it, so what.

i refer you to this study-http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3109/0284186X.2013.823239

bodyweight change is a poor indicator of one's physical 'appetite'

>>8747962
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS735US735&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ssri+loss+of+appetite&*

You should really stop thinking you have cancer. You're wasting your time pretending to know more than doctors.

>>8747957
loss of appetite is a sign of depression, which you don't have since you've put on weight. You can't know you lack hunger if you're stuffing your face all day. Loss of appetite is only pathological if it causes unvoluntary loss of weight, otherwise it's just called satiety

>>8747957
It's your understanding that is lacking. You simply have no idea.

>>8747966
better than average. i'm not medically trained but i probbaly know more about cancer than a standard british doctor just from reading. what else could possibly be wrong with me?

>>8747974
confirmed troll. sage goes in all fields

>>8747974
>better than average.
I want facts, not vagaries. Better than average is still shit. What is the extent of your biology education past Biology 101 in uni?

>>8747970
there's literally nothing stopping someone with a 'loss of appetite'from eating. i use the analogy of eating desert after a big meal, you still will eat that desert and enjoy it and have an 'appetite' for it without being hungry, and that describes my relationship food in its entirety over the last 7 months

>>8747989
You're simply wrong.

>2017
>still feeding this troll

If he was fun, I could see it, but it's the current year, come on!

>>8747989
>ignores >>8747968
kill yourself

>>8747989
again, you're referring to the sense of satiety, not appetite. In any case if you can't understand how silly this whole argument is, there's no helping you

Hey OP, have you managed to get your hands on any kind of proof that you're actually seeing doctors since a few weeks ago?

Because I still aren't convinced you're not making this whole story up, symptoms and doctor visits included.

>>8748002
what exactly do you mean?

i'm in constant state of 'satiety' , i eat recreationally without ever doing so to satisfy a biological craving. the kind of biological craving that led our ancestors to risk our lives hunting large mammals. i simply feel none of that. because i am phsyically ill

Can you assholes stop replying to this troll? I've got a REAL problem here:

>have 3.9 GPA and scores above the 95th percentile in the GRE
>Everything is on track, but my gf of 3 years just got pregnant and wants to keep the baby
>I tell her I can't deal with raising a kid while I'm in grad school, and she needs to have an abortion
>She is hesitant
>Now it's the third trimester. I'm still pushing for abortion but she says that now the fetus can feel pain and it would be unethical
>I tell her that's bullshit, I'm a biologist, I should know

What do you think I should do? How can I convince my girlfriend to do the right thing?

>>8748019
i simply made this thread looking for advice of what to do when your (((NHS))) doc won't take you seriously and you legitimately have real health concerns, and cant afford to go private

>>8748019
You should man up and take responsibility for your actions.

Also abortion is murder.

>>8748023
You're a fucking troll. I've got an actual real-life problem and you're pretending to be a hypocondriac for (you)s.

Give me proof you went to see a doctor.

>>8748019
go on jerry springer

>>8748019
get her boyfriend to take responsibility for the child

>>8748034
I AM her primary boyfriend (emotional bf). Her sexual bf is currently doing a postdoc at Duke.

>>8748025
ok, here is proof of the colonscopy that i had months ago near after all this started, i went privately then when i could afford it. i coincidentally had constipation then along with the loss of appetite so thats why i was looking at colon cancer, i certainly dont have that now but the lack of appetite persists, and now i have a cough and headache (brain mets from lung cancer)

this is all the 'proof' i have

woops

better 'proof'

>>8748019
fake your death and assume a new identity. shouldn't be too hard for a biofag

>>8748049
>/lgbt/
lol, you can't make this shit up

>>8748055
But I like my current identity. I don't want to start over after investing all this time into my studies.
>>8748051
>>8748049

Oh wow, you're actually a legit hypochondriac. Don't post your personal correspondences on /sci/, dude. Also go read a hypochondria self-help book or something.

>>8748049
>lgbt
>pol
>posting your address
No way this isn't b8

>>8748049
Do you see the pattern here, fuckwit?

>>8748067
>>8748066
i've moved house since then it's fine

>>8748066
His hypochondria passed the limit to full blown psychosis a long time ago.

>>8748072
what do you mean by that?

>>8748088
none of your fears or worries have any merit. you're healthy

>>8747820
>i enjoy eating but i dont want to eat, the food is forcing its way through my mouth

>>8748088
Is this the first time you've believed you had cancer? Have you ever thought you had cancer in another part of your body, only to find out there was no cancer?

>>8748103
i have known i have had cancer for 7 months.

>>8748019
First, take this shit to >>>/adv/
You believe that women run on logic. They run on emotions, especially when they're pregnant. Also, how does being a biologist qualify you to be an expert on pregnancy? The right thing to do would be to accept responsibility for getting your girlfriend pregnant. Get a paternity test to make sure it's yours. You wanting her to get an abortion and her wanting to keep the baby is going to cause a huge rift between you. If you manage to stay together, she'll tell your kid that you wanted to abort it because you were selfish.

>>8747764
>I have a persistent pleghmy throat
>>8747820
>cough came on about a month ago

Gee I wonder why you might be coughing

it's your heart chakra dude. it's either blocked or just severely understimulated.

coughs, trouble breathing, lack of physical endurance as well as loss of appetite and general depression are all symptoms of problems with your heart chakra. it is also associated with disturbances with the phlegmatic humour, which you report issues with.

the main thing that causes issues with your heart chakra is not having enough love in your life, whether through your parents, friends, a partner or anyone else in your life, if you don't really have anyone, it can be hard to improve on as your best cure is to work on loving others, try to open yourself up, and work on being able to express your love for the people you care about.

other things that can help are looking up heart chakra yoga routines or meditations, wearing green and surrounding yourself with green colors and objects, spending some time in nature in a green place, and eating green foods and drinks such as broccoli, kale, apple juice, and olives or olive oil, you should also think about the people in your life that you care about, and try to put into words how you feel about them and how you truly appreciate them whether to actually tell them or just for yourself.

of course none of this is traditional science but you're the one ignoring trained professionals telling you you don't have cancer.

>>8748109
What is the extent of your formal training in Biology?

>>8748109
How long will you have to not die before you acknowledge that you aren't dying?

You obviously can't simply have untreated lung cancer forever and not die from it. Many people would have already been dead after 7 months of progression of the disease.

>>8748103
he did a colonoscopy to check for colon cancer

you literally can't make this shit up

>>8747764
In America a paranoid nut like you would be sent for at least 10 more tests so they could milk your insurance company. And people wonder why healthcare is so expensive here.

Not OP, but I think I might be a legitimate hypochondriac as well.

Short greentext
>student
>drink lots of caffeine, start losing sleep
>cut back on caffeine and get a migraine one day, 4 weeks ago
>get vertigo, ice pick pain and confusion
>next day, super out of it
>go back to normal caffeine doses (like 6-700mg)
>have several panic attacks when symptoms done disappear, think I have brain tumor, stroke
>in a haze for 4 weeks, some days better than others, but constant neck pain and vertigo

At first I thought it was a stroke or brain tumor, but I got top scores on midterms while this was going on and I thought if I had a problem in my brain, I wouldn't have done so well on my Ochem and math midterms.

But the vertigo and dizziness is persistent so I wondered if it was my heart, but yesterday I deadlifted 405x5x5 and rowed 5000m in 20 minutes and felt AMAZING so it probably isn't a heart problem.

In between this, also thought it was reactive hypoglycemia, but my sugar levels are fine, slightly high, but still below prediabetic.

And I'm constantly googling my symptoms and moving on to a new disease hypothesis when something doesn't fit. I've been to the doctor several times and they found nothing wrong but they just listened to my heart and had me stand on one foot and assessed my optic nerves for inflammation.

So basically, I'm still dizzy and nauseas but I have no idea what's causing it. I think it's anxiety, but can anxiety really be so powerful as to create physical symptoms?

>>8748121
that is literally a good question

i guess if we're going to be hypothetical. just supposing i am in good health(which i wont be) a year after all this started then we can say i was wrong. so august 2017

Zach, I think you suffer hyperchondria and may need to see a therapist.

>>8748121

He will probably just keep moving on to new diseases or eventually fall into a deep depression and kill himself

>>8748147
>just supposing i am in good health
This isn't what you were asked jackass. You can weasel around this literally forever because not only is "good health" subjective it's perfectly possible to live your entire life sick.

The question is if you are not _stone fucking dead_ after X months will you realize that cancer would 100% have killed you by then

>>8747764
holy shit i hate hypochondriacs. check yourself into a mental hospital

>>8748167
erm listen sweetie

non small cell lung cancer (which is what i have) kills slowly, me being ill for 7 months by no way proves i dont have it

>>8748262
So what length of time without death will prove you don't have it?

Nobody can even make you shut the fuck up about your cancer when the time comes around, I don't know why you're so adamant on dodging the question

>>8748195
i'm not a hypochondriac

i'm a physically ill person looking for advice on what to do when my (((national health service))) won't take me seriously simply because i don't meet the age requirements that they work by

>>8748272
i already told you

its purely hypothetical, but if im still able to type like this (which i wont be) in 5 months then i will concede defeat. you were right all along, its 'al in my head'

>>8748274
They don't take you seriously because you are an obvious nutjob. There is very evidently absolutely nothing wrong with you physically.

I really hope you actually get cancer, because that's what you deserve for being an ungrateful piece of shit. You are in good health and have a life ahead of you. I suggest you do something with it. First step: Look for a therapist and listen to what people tell for once instead of blaming the fucking jews.

>>8748277
>but if im still able to type like this (which i wont be) in 5 months then i will concede defeat.
eh it's not death but it's concrete enough

You'll still be making threads in August but at least you'll have admitted you're retarded

>>8748282
>you are an obvious nutjob.
lol its almost like the more worried i am about my ailments the more it works against me. honestly first respone human doctors were a mistake, and in twenty years time when i'm dead and we have robot GPs looking back on this thread you'll realize i was right

>>8748286
no i wont i'll be nearly dead by then

>>8747764
i had a friend who got diagnosed with lung cancer and was given a few months to live, after 30,000 dollars worth of test turned out it was a bad infection

>>8748141
Just stop with caffeine and handle the withdraw symptoms for some weeks you goddamn faggot

>>8748295
>Subjectively perceived 'loss of hunger', still gained weight due to binge attacks
>Depression
>Immune to advice, simply denies every attempt to diagnosis (except his own of course)
>Posts threads on an anonymous image boards for months and months asking for attention even though everybody tells him he's full of shit
>Has a cough for a while
Yeah, I'm sure the robot GPs will guess it's fucking lung cancer. Or maybe gastric cancer, or pancreatic cancer, you don't really mind, right?

>>8748324
well im the opposite of that

literally guys what do i do when my ((doctors)) wont take me seriously?

this is going to be one of those GP horror stories you read about on dailymail.com i.e i was ill but they kept brushing me off

>>8747764
>SOCIALIZED HEALTHCARE

>>8748340
>>8748274
i dont believe you're truly pancreatic/lung cancer anon, he never used to use echo quotes

How is this thread still up, what the fuck are the mods doing?

Delete this retarded blog bullshit

>>8748346
He's actively looking for excuses, so he fits the demographic of people using those.

>>8748340
>literally guys what do i do when my ((doctors)) wont take me seriously?
They won't take someone with little to no background in biology or medicine seriously when he insists that his vague, mild symptoms are 100% cancer? Wow, what a bunch of quacks!

>>8748346
He showed his email and everything, though. I was skeptical too, but unless he's a seriously dedicated troll, it seems like he might be a real hypochondriac.

Pray that the cancer gets you before I get to you, because I am getting sick of that bullshit thread

>>8748346
that is me

reminder i was wrong about the specific kind of cancer

but im not wrong about cancer

>>8748403
How can you be so sure, despite having basically no education in biology or medicine?

Are you mentally disabled?

>>8748416
because i match all the symptoms

its pretty simple

what do you think that a 'doctor' knows better than me exactly?

The CT scan thread is so much more interesting than this. You're a shit troll.

https://youtu.be/pEQ8orjYNPA

op here


friendly reminder that nationalized health services are literally a cancer on mankind and if it lived in a proper country i probbaly would have had a chance at beating this shit

>>8748444
Don't lose hope anon.

>>8748330

I tried, it was not sustainable during the academic year, because I'm a high achiever.

Whatever. I think I'm going to chalk it up to anxiety, and start taking my meds again, I dunno what else it would be

>>8748429
>because i match all the symptoms
You cough for a little while and you claim to experience a loss of hunger despite even gaining weight (which makes very little sense). There are a million explanations for the coughing and the loss of hunger is 100% subjective considering you still appear to eat well.

>what do you think that a 'doctor' knows better than me exactly?
He actually saw multiple people with lung cancer, he knows the symptoms exactly. The radiologist also saw countless pictures from people with lung cancer and he knows what to look for. In your case he didn't see anything atypical at all, so no reason for a follow up. You on the other hand don't know shit about actual lung cancer.

>>8748473

Don't waste your breath, anon. I am a hypochondriac (at times) as well, and when I am having a bad day, not even god wild convince me I didn't have some horrific disease

>>8748473
>which makes very little sense
weight change is clearly a poor indicator of hunger. because you could just eat to 'bulk yourself' up before chemo, or just because you simply enjoy eating, like in my case

>He actually saw multiple people with lung cancer, he knows the symptoms exactly
and its not my pic, i only have a report, which was negative, but lung cancer is often not picked up by lung cancer

>>8748476
I guess you are right. I don't know any hypochondriacs like that in real life, and to me it's absolutely crazy how he can't see himself that he's making no sense at all. I can't imagine anyone having this little self-reflection.

not picked up by x-ray*

>>8748484
>weight change is clearly a poor indicator of hunger.
What is an objective indicator of that then?

>>8748429
Your symptoms are so mild and subjective that it could literally be one of THOUSANDS of conditions. Mold, allergies, a mild autoimmune disease, an infection, a parasitic twin, low test, AIDS.

>>8748518
I really hope he has AIDS

>>8748492

It's a weird rationalization that convinces you that you are sick. An example:

>why does my head hurt
>hm, I also have some chest pain and dizziness
>googles a bunch of symptoms
>looks like I might have a brain tumor, stroke, heart disease, ocular migraines, or some other cancer
>obsesses about symptoms, every time pain feels like inflammation from a tumor, every stab of chest pain feels like a heart attack coming on
>anxiety starts to set in, making symptoms worse. You become hyper aware of your own body. You can feel what you swear is parasthesia when the wind brushes your hair. You start obsessing over the possibility of a seizure or heart attack, and you obsessively check your pupils
>you don't realize that shallow hyperventilation from anxiety is making you nauseas and giving you chest pain and headaches, you think it's a heart problem
>every moment you spend awake is googling your symptoms
>you become CONVINCED that you have something. See doctor, or two, or ten. You don't believe them when they say you're fine. Their examinations were so fast, how could they possibility know?
>and no MRI or CT scan
>peeing frequently now, bladder
problems? Diabetes? Mental checklist in your head.
>can't sleep at night. You slee for 2-3 hours at a time and wake up in a panic when you think you heard a voice bag was actually just a car driving on the road by your house
>exhaustion and tension make you more dizzy and psychotic
>doctors keep saying you're fine
>they don't know. I'm NOT fine. Bunch of fucking quacks
>every time a new symptom arises that doesn't fit a previous self diagnosis, you rationalize your way into a new diagnosis
>constant fear of death and illness

I'm saying this from experience

In 4 weeks I went from stroke to brain tumor to heart problems, to diabetes, back to stroke, then heart problem again. It's hell. OP is suffering but it's not cancer

>>8748518
not really desu

no known condition matches my symptoms better than lung cancer does

>>8748613
Maybe you have a novel super disease with no known cure

RIP
>press F to pay respects

>>8748656
RIP

>>8748613
>no known condition matches my symptoms better than lung cancer does
But you don't have any of the more conspicuous characteristics of lung cancer, like tumors.

>>8748670
a chest x-ray doesnt mean shit

obviously the interpreter was sleeping on the job

i'm very ill and i need urgent medical help

>>8748685
Are you really seriously ill? Are you so ill you can't work?

>>8748705
yes

>>8748712
But if you're so ill you can't work, how is it that you haven't gotten proof of your cancer so you can collect disability? How are you making money?

>Medical professional with years of training
Vs
> a fagot who read a Wikipedia article a self diagnoses
Honestly I hope you are right and end up dying, the world will be better off without a fagot and polltard

>>8748760
>years of training
this doesnt mean shit

>>8748714
i live with my parents

>>8748809
>>8748813

>"I live with my parents"
>"FUcking ((((doctors))))"
>"who cares about training? I'm smart!"

If you're so fucking smart why don't you find a way to stop being mentally ill and get a job and find a fulfilling life instead of getting some sort of perverse satisfaction out of being a victim? How can someone have so little self-awareness?

>>8749024
i'm not mentally ill

i'm dying

>>8747764
Speaking of cancer, I'm also worried I may be developing something
>get a sudden bout of nausea starting last Saturday
>nausea comes and goes though I usually feel it the most when I wake up in the morning and when I'm tired at night
>I usually can't feel the symptoms during the day
>it isn't even strong nausea, I haven't thrown up at all and can still eat and go through my daily life as normal
>go to the doctor's, they do the usual routine and come to the conclusion that I have a virus that should go away in two weeks
Should I be worried?

>>8749309
obviously not retard

fuck this dumb thread

>>8749316
After reading the thread, I think this might just be psychosomatic. I should start doing Yoga or something I have too much stress.

>>8747764
>I feel like I'm going to have to feign more severe symptoms or family history to get investigated.
Stop draining the NHS, you don't have it you cunt

>>8747764
>thinks he has cancer
>gets an x-ray to check
>increases cancer chance
>gets actual fucking cancer
My sides.

>>8748685
97% specificity anon. If you had cancer it would be immediately obvious.

lads i feel so fucking ill today

cough is worse than ever and i have back discomfort

maybe i'll ask for another x-ray as cant get ct scan

pray for me ;(

>>8747764
Do you smoke?
Or do you have any family members that have been diagnosed with lung cancer?
Or did you once punched a full bag of asbestos as a kid?

If you answer no to all these questions than the chances if you having lung cancer out of nowhere are really low.

It's probably nasal polyps or asthma mixed with anxiety and stress

>>8747764
Get an endoscopy, you might have lpr or gastritis, esophagitis

>>8747764
I havent been able to poop without a prescription laxative for a year now and anytime I eat any fiber my body produces extreme amounts of trapped gas that take hours to clear. What kind of cruel double bind am I in? Any cures for ibs sci?

>>8750152
Stop encouraging this type of behavior. In my country it is unethical to diagnose a patient you have never meet before. Plus I would be a fair assumption to think that you are not licensed to give medical advise. Don't you think the GP he saw would be suspect that. socialized medicine aside, the U.K. Have decent MD and OP seems to be excessively ( to a psychotic level) concern about his health.

>>8750141
I've smoked socially since 18, i'm 25
no family members yet

>>8750165
>you might have

It's fairly uncommon so his doctor wouldn't necessarily suspect it.

>>8750157
Colon cancer if you ask OP

>>8749915

>>8750170
you've missed the threads where he is constantly coming up with new ways he might have cancer when the one he thinks he has turns out to be wrong. like when he got a colonoscopy for colon cancer

>>8747764
Actual MD here, let me help you OP.

>persistant phlemy throat
Its winter. If you live anywhere thats even mildly cold i wouldnt worry about this. Even if you live at the equator theres a good chance its allergies.
>persistent cough
This fits well with the cold dry air diagnosis, and even better with the allergy diagnosis
>headache
Its a result of coughing a lot, could also be attributed to stress. Im not even a little bit surprised. Im even less suprised if you happen to be on blood thinners.
>loss of appetite
Im betting this one is in your head. You convinced yourself you have cancer, despite professional medical diagnosis indicating otherwise, and you are now convincing yourself you have the symptoms aswell. Loss of appetite can also be a result of stress, which is not surprising for someone who thinks they have cancer.

These are just guesses based on your symptoms and what other medical professionals have told you.

You know OP. There is a blood test (PAULA's test) that is used to detect lung cancer in its early stages. Just request this test next time you are in for a hypochondriac visit. It doesnt matter though, you wont believe the results when it comes back negative. Generally, if you are actually experiencing cancer sysmptoms the cancer is already in advanced stages. Im not trying to freak you out, but if you could "feel" yourself getting sick as a result of cancer i can guarantee it would have shown up on an x-ray.

tl;dr: You are fine, you dont have cancer. Continuing to expose yourself to stress and x-rays is a good way to get it though.

I'm a doctor.

The only cancer patients like this have is their psycotic obsession with themselves being sick.

They complete derail their own normal sensitivity filters, if they find a blemish on their skin it's skin cancer. If they have abdominal ache it's colon or stomach cancer. Headaches are brain tumors and the common cold is throat and nose cancer.

At the end of the day they piss away more medical resources than a real cancer patient.

>>8747791
You don't understand what cancer is.

>>8750328
problem is the lack of appetite is definitely physical, i give up with doctors though so i'm just gonna die at home

>>8750352
Weight loss happens with cancer. Loss of appetite less so until it goes terminal. Patients losing weight despite normal appetite and no attempt to do so is a red flag.

But I your special snowflake cancer works in mysterious ways

>>8750360
don't get me wrong, i wish you were right, but studies online show loss of appetite is amongst the most common symptom of lung cancer

>>8750352
>>8750373
Why not just take the PAULA test and see?

>>8750377
i dont think they have it in UK, we're always a bit behind america

Have you considered your lack of appetite might be due to your depression?

>>8750388
Couldn't hurt to ask. Or are you subconsciously afraid that you might not have cancer? I know that at a conscious level, this is awful, but maybe there's something going on at a subconscious level to make you favor this type of worrying. Maybe you're transmuting your dissatisfaction with more complex and nuanced problems that you have limited control over into a panic over something out of your control.

I normally don't buy into psychiatric gobbledygook, but there's definitely more than meets the eye here.

please stop shitposting about your death on /sci/

>>8750391
it's definitely phsyical

>>8750397
t. everyone with psychosomatic symptoms ever

>>8750394
just hide the thread dipshit

>>8750397
How would you know the difference between the way your brain treats lack of hunger due to depression and lack of hunger due to a physical symptom? There would be no way to know. One way to test it would be to do a fast, though. If you can fast for 5 days without feeling hunger, it's probably real.

>>8750404
> If you can fast for 5 days without feeling hunger, it's probably real
I have not done so but could do easily

you people are wasting your energy, there is nothing you can do to help someone in denial. Even if you do what he asks, he'll find new symptoms or simply reject your conclusion(as he rejected the Rx). He's not asking for a diagnosis, he's looking for someone to confirm that he is sick. He's already decided that he was. I've seen it happen times and times again. The only thing that can help him is to realize that he has a problem and that he needs to get help for it, sometimes building up a relation of trust with the patient can help that happen after a while.
And sometimes there's really nothing you can do

>>8748019

Refer her to an anesthesia thought experiment.

You wake up in the morning and a friend tells you that you were black out drunk last night, and he pinched you so hard that you cried.

You cannot remember this happening, and you suspect that he might be making it up.

How do you feel about in game that you felt pain, but were never creating memories while you did so it essentially never happened.

Similarly, certain types of anesthesia don't knock you out completely, rather, they impede your brains ability for form memories. Entire surgeries are performed under this form of anesthesia. People technically feel the pain during the operation, but they don't remember.

Remember that one time o tortured you for six days straight? No? Of course. you were on a memory blocking anesthesia. Whether it happened or not is irrealavant, because the memory doesent exist.

Babies cannot form memories. They are in a constant state of memory blocking anesthesia. Any pain administered to the baby/fetus is irrealavant.

>>8750413
Then do it. It'll be a good reality check. And if it really is appetite loss, you can seek the PAULA test. Sounds like a solid plan to get rid of the uncertainty.

>>8750460
How do we know that babies don't form any memories? They might be forming memories that persist for a few months or even a year, but fade away by early childhood.

>>8750490

I should have said infant. I have a few long term memories all the way back from when I was 1-2 years old. One thing I remember is that durnig that age, I was confused ALL THE TIME this is indicative of very poor short term memory, which also is probably indicative of poor memory in general. Before that, I highly doubt any serious persistent memories were formed.

>>8750486
OP has had blood tests for cancer biomarkers before and gotten negative diagnoses and still ignored those results.

>>8750486
Could a physical lack of appetite be caused by anything else than malignancy, really? I can't get paula test in uk.

>>8750622
Yes, it absolutely can. See: any of the other explanations offered in this thread for your symptoms.

>>8750627
most of the responses are just assuming it's in my head, i don't see any physical conditions being suggested, which is what i'm asking

>>8750460
>Similarly, certain types of anesthesia don't knock you out completely, rather, they impede your brains ability for form memories. Entire surgeries are performed under this form of anesthesia. People technically feel the pain during the operation, but they don't remember.
This is a nightmarish scenario that I was thinking about a while ago, does it actually happen? Any sources?

>>8750552
>we know babies don't have memories because I remember being confused as a baby
lel

>>8750637
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorexia_(symptom)
Dozens of other explanations, and these are just the more common causes.

I'm also suspicious about you not being able to get a PAULA test. Have you even asked?

>>8750637
Well then, it could also be any of various chronic organ diseases, metabolic diseases, infection with hepatites or HIV, medications or drugs you're taking, and also just about every fucking illness both contracted and acquired on the planet.

>>8750649
>I'm also suspicious about you not being able to get a PAULA test. Have you even asked?
OP also claims to have been obsessing about his cancer diagnosis for months but literally the only evidence he's been able to show that he's even seen a doctor or has symptoms is the two screenshots shown in this thread.

>>8750653
I know it's a mean thing to suggest but it's so obvious that this guy seriously, strongly WANTS to have cancer at some level. Like, he keeps making excuses to not do things that have a chance of ruling out a diagnosis.

>>8750655
he said in a previous thread that he's already told his friends and family he has cancer

>>8750658
Yeah, and God forbid he end up looking foolish.

Christ, what an ass.

>>8750649
Trouble is most of these illnesses can be ruled out by the blood tests I have had or lack of other 'giveaway' symptoms. I have a pretty prominent cough now, and the way may symptoms have come on insidiously rather than sudden or severely means(which could also point to other conditions listed there) I think I have right to be worried, unfortunately i just can't get doctors to share the same level of concern. Like many here the idea that a chest x-ray wouldn't show lung cancer that has been symptomatic seems unlikely, but I just can't take it as conclusive.

>>8750672

>Trouble is most of these illnesses can be ruled out by the blood tests I have had or lack of other 'giveaway' symptoms.

The thing is, they're not going to run a panel that checks for all these illnesses during a blood draw. Unless they explicitly told you they were checking for something, they didn't test for it. You can't just assume that because you had blood drawn and they didn't tell you about a positive result, that it means you don't have the disease.
>I have a pretty prominent cough now, and the way may symptoms have come on insidiously rather than sudden or severely means(which could also point to other conditions listed there) I think I have right to be worried, unfortunately i just can't get doctors to share the same level of concern.
A cough is like an itch. If you pay too much attention to it, you're going to end up clearing your throat more often or forcing yourself to cough and you'll just prolong it. And coughs can be a symptom for THOUSANDS of things.

>>8750672
>Trouble is most of these illnesses can be ruled out by the blood tests I have had
That also applies to your putative cancer.

One time in high school we had a mold problem in my house that slowly aggravated a cough in me over several months, to the point where every five or ten minutes I was going through a hacking coughing fit even when I was outside of the house.

The cough evaporated pretty much immediately after I moved out of that house.

>>8750710
blood tests for cancer are from straightforward or readily available yet, not blood test i've had could rule out cancer

>>8750712
No diagnostic test on the planet is capable of "ruling out" a diagnosis.

However, a negative blood test in combination with all the other diagnostic tests you've gotten negative results from is as close to "ruling out" cancer as you're ever likely to get.

>>8748019
This why i'm gay

>>8747764
How do I stop being a hypochondriac? Do psychologists actually work?

>>8750712
But you didn't have blood tests for most other diseases, either. They drew your blood, but I doubt they tested very many diseases with respiratory symptoms (there are a shitload.) You're applying a special set of criteria to lung cancer that you're not applying to other diseases. Show me how many negative results you got for other diseases, I'm pretty damn sure you're not being honest.

>>8750727
They do. God speed, anon.

Literally no one in this thread believes you have cancer, so it isn't just your 30 doctors you've talked to.

You definitely have hypochondria.

>>8747764
anon, I know its hard to trust anyone especially on 4chan and given the current status of the thread but you have already admitted to being a hypochondriac and SSRI's

I realize this article may be from a meme source but please take some time to research SSRI's and consider that they may be the cause of your symptoms

Common side effects
Common side effects of SSRIs can include:
feeling agitated, shaky or anxious
feeling or being sick
indigestion
diarrhoea or constipation
loss of appetite and weight loss
dizziness
blurred vision
dry mouth
excessive sweating
sleeping problems (insomnia) or drowsiness
headaches
low sex drive
difficulty achieving orgasm during sex or masturbation
in men, difficulty obtaining or maintaining an erection (erectile dysfunction)
These side effects should improve over time, although some – such as sexual problems – can persist.
Less common side effects
Less common side effects of SSRIs can include:
bruising or bleeding easily, including vomiting blood or blood in your stools
confusion
movement problems, such as stiffness or shaking
seeing or hearing things that aren't real (hallucinations)
being unable to pass urine


some of these are side effects you have constantly complained about throughout this thread

please anon, see a psychologist

>>8751722
wow I forgot the link
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/SSRIs-(selective-serotonin-reuptake-inhibitors)/Pages/Side-effects.aspx


I realize you may dislike the nhs source, but I can assure you, you will find similar listings from others