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can jet fuel melt steel beams?

>> No.8724645

It doesn't need to melt them when it can weaken them to the point of failure, and that's what matters.
Now it's time for you to leave >>>/pol/

>> No.8724649

the terror attack was real, but dick cheney and the secret services probably knew al-qaeda is planning something big in the usa and they all agreed on letting it happen because they all would gain politically from a big terror attack. this is the truth.

>> No.8724661

Phd in materials science here.

Tge rebeg constant of steel is aprox 1.58 and since most jet fuel is made with mendelevium which has like 3 atoms for each free electron it has a Hödge power of more than 3*10^5 spectral lumens and by Caeler theorem we know that it can melt things up to a rebeg constant of 6.39. So yes it can melt steel beams

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>>8724642
Truthers for some reason think steel is like an ice cube: Completely rigid up unto the point it melts. In reality it gets softer at higher temperatures below the melting point. A steel beam supporting a load doesn't need to liquefy to lose its strength and break.

>> No.8724682

Can "redpilled" fags go back to /pol/?

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>>8724679
>structured steel gets stronger with temperature increase
what is this fuckery

>> No.8724760

>>8724642
can flimsy aluminum air frames filled with jet fuel that completely burns a way in seconds knock over a building made of steel and concrete that weighs a million tons?

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>>8724679
Steel is stronger at 200-300C, why am I just learning this now?

>> No.8724767 [DELETED] 

>>8724649


You are talking out of your ass. The CUA knew of a plot and the president and his office didn't take it seriously enough. They neglected key intelligence.

To substantiate your theory you're going to need some major evidence.

>> No.8724781

I'd suggest anyone to read the NIST report before coming to conclusions

>> No.8724792

Reminder that WTC had steel beams all around the structure, one of the first such buildigs, that's why the windows are so narrow.
Reminder that the NIST had structural simulations of the consequences of a jetliner collision but the results have been (((lost)))

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>>8724679
>>8724765
>>8724684

Is X-axis in degrees Kelvin but labelled incorrectly? Or is this just faggotry?

>> No.8724823

>>8724760
Yes, and I have two definitive examples to prove this.

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>>8724684
>>8724765
>>8724814
probably the result of becoming less brittle with a minor temperature increase. beeswax does the same thing; it'll break easily if it's cold, but it'll bend without breaking (to a degree) if you warm it up in the palm of your hand.
and then of course at even higher temperatures the microstructure breaks down further to the point that it can't withstand stress anymore.

>> No.8724826

>>8724649
Saying something is truth doesn't make it so

>> No.8724832

>>8724760
You have a strange definition of "flimsy"

>> No.8725369

>>8724642
Of course. Just as wood flames can melt steel. It's all about application, duration, and amount.