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>Race differences in intelligence are entirely environm-

>> No.8669163
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http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0022022110381114

>Western children first show signs of mirror self-recognition (MSR) from 18 to 24 months of age, the benchmark index of emerging self-concept. Such signs include self-oriented behaviors while looking at the mirror to touch or remove a mark surreptitiously placed on the child’s face. The authors attempted to replicate this finding across cultures using a simplified version of the classic “mark test.” In Experiment 1, Kenyan children (N = 82, 18 to 72 months old) display a pronounced absence of spontaneous self-oriented behaviors toward the mark. In Experiment 2, the authors tested children in Fiji, Saint Lucia, Grenada, and Peru (N = 133, 36 to 55 months old), as well as children from urban United States and rural Canada. As expected from existing reports, a majority of the Canadian and American children demonstrate spontaneous self-oriented behaviors toward the mark. However, markedly fewer children from the non-Western rural sites demonstrate such behaviors. These results suggest that there are profound cross-cultural differences in the meaning of the MSR test, questioning the validity of the mark test as a universal index of self-concept in children’s development.

>> No.8669173

>>8669163
KEK
>here is this test we use to determine intelligence
>all evidence points to the test being fairly accurate, it even works on other species (see dolphins)
>apply test to babies of different nationalities
>test shows exactly what you would expect, less developed countries are less developed because they are of lower intellect since birth
>THATS RACISM there must be something wrong with the test

>> No.8669212

So what then, if niggers are irrefutably proven to be dumb? This probably isn't going to legitimize your genocidal fantasies, instead this will just result into more money for them programs.

/pol/ please go.

>> No.8669216

>>8668881
>60% think it's between 0 and 40%

Really got my noggin joggin.

>> No.8669221

>>8669163
If they had a representative sample of children from the US, wouldn't this test imply something cultural/environmental since this about countries and not race?

>> No.8669224

>>8669212
why do lefties always assume the motivations here are genocidal?

>> No.8669229

>>8669173

Where does it say that test is used to determine intelligence?

It says it's used to determine emerging self-concept. It doesn't seem to explain how that's correlated with intelligence.

>> No.8669242

>>8669224
>let's just round up and deport/kill/sterilize these dumb niggers back to where they came from, they cannot be a functioning member of society here anyway
>let's just kill these dumb niggers in their ancestral lands, they can't utilize all the riches beneath their homes anyway

Pick two, retard. Just like sjws like to parrot "it's all the whitey's fault, they should all perish", you scum like to say "death to all degenerates, race war now"
Now go away.

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>>8669242
who are you quoting? these are very negative thoughts you have lodged in your own brain

>> No.8669248

I've seen racial intelligence threads a lot of times aleady
If it's not "whites have creativity, europeans are exceptional", it's "niggers are dumb lol"

>> No.8669255

>>8669212
It means that's its unrealistic to expect whites and blacks to coexist in society on equal terms. We need segregation. New Liberia when?

>> No.8669270

>>8669255
How about smart whites and dumb whites?

>> No.8669332

>>8669221
You would think, but how many people of northern european ancestry do you think live in Kenya vs North America? There are too many variables to know for sure but with a large enough sample size the results of the test could still indicate differences in race. One race performing above average on the MSR test and, being a larger percentage of the population for one of the coutries in question would improve that countries average performance given a random sample of test subjects from that population. The only way to know for sure would be to perform the test with samples of children divided by race within the same country, i dont think race deniers would like the results though. At 18 months what does your upbringing have to do with your cognitive perfomance? Aside from basic nutrition, you still havent learned how to communicate very well bidirectionally with the outside world. Sure you can signal if you are hungry or sleepy but, society really hasnt started to make an impression on you until you can understand the people around you based on more than body language. So at the point that most Canadian and US babies are passing the test they have mostly only been influenced by their genetics and thier own thoughts. Of course this is all just my own logical deduction, none of it is hard fact, though i would be interested to see a counter arguement.

>> No.8669334

>>8669229
That article doesnt say it specifically but would you not say self recognition is a precursor to sapience, which itself is a precursor to intelligence? Intelligence has somewhat of a fuzzy definition depending on who you ask. However, I dont think you could make an arguement against the fact that problem solving and tool use (provided the necessary genetic code to use said tool, for example hands or, in the MSR test eyes) are strongly correlated and, are indicative of intelligence.

>> No.8669446

>>8669173
>THATS RACISM there must be something wrong with the test
Kek he's right you know. This is what ultra-denial mental gymnastics looks like.