/sci/ - Science & Math

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>>8658121
>le climate change
these threads need to be euthanised on the spot

this attached image needs to be discussed with /lit/, /ic/ and /fit/ then updated

>>8658126
that's the most retarded shit i've seen today on /sci/
well actually the third most retarded, man this board sucks

>/pol/ posters
>/r9k/ posters
>iq posters
>e-stats posters
>not providing any meaningful discussion/arguments
>bait posters
>troll posters
>negativity posters
>hate posts
Actually, make this a science board and we are set.

more discussion of genetically engineered catgirl maids

>>8658133
Why does it rustle you so, anon-san?

Just remove the copypasta reposts. People are still falling for the "I stopped caring about math when I was introduced to imaginary numbers" pasta. Many such cases.

>>8658138
>/pol/ posters

These are the worst, with their racebaiting threads.

>>8658145
It doesn't (because nobody in power would be stupid enough to try it) I just pointed out that it's totally retarded.

>>8658146
Sad!

>>8658125
Threads are good when there's actual discussion. They're not good when they devolve into shitposting and crossposting from /pol/.

>>8658146
this, and -1/12 meme, I fucking hate it with soul
>>8658159
every thread there's the same circlejerking about the other site falsifying data and calling out the other poster for being /pol/

>>8658151
Why do you think it's so retarded though?

>>8658167
It's pretty much the same guy in every thread that posts the same images / same conspiracies every time. Climate science is actually interesting to discuss though, and there's constantly new studies / news to discuss so it's a shame we can't have decent threads about it.

Well I have to say we all need to look at the catalog. It's a fucking mess, let me tell you.
To many people asking stupid questions out of their specific thread and a lot of non related topics including /pol/ stuff or even borderline autistic /r9k/ stuff. Some questions only require a visit to the library or a google search, and there are too many undergrads bragging bout their field.

To be honest I could do something for the board and make good threads, but I'm too busy studying. I just come here every other day to lurk and see if there is anything interesting.

>>8658182
I think its mostly because most of us have their finals around this time and only neets/trolls are on right now and fucking it up

Make /sci/ great again in 3 points:

1. Allow embedded pdf, to share scientific publications. I can't wait for science sharethreads.

2. Create sticky with attached reviews about race, human diversity, intelligence, climate and global warming.

3. Don't ban the troll threads and memes about maths. They are funny.

4. Get James D. Watson to do an AMA.

5. Try to attract more biologists and medical fields

/sci/, /lit/, /hist/, etc should have "curators" who can append messages to other posts, sort of like janitors but with the ability to "edit" (not really, just add information to) posts

>>8658214
6. rename /sci/ intro /r/sci/

>>8658121
Ban everyone that frequented /pol/ in the last 48 hours and tries to post.

>>8658214
>the troll threads and memes about maths.
>They are funny.
They are boring, repetitive and cringeworthy. Only a calc 1 freshman with xkcd tier "lol I'm such a nerd xD" humor can find them funny.

t. math grad student

>>8658233
Your opinion isn't the only one that matters. I think that we should strive towards a balance: we should allowed a few meme threads, but not let the board be overrun by them.

>>8658232
Let's do this.

In addition, I'm not a fan of creationism.

>>8658238
not him but fuck off with your shit plebbit threads, repeating the same moronic memes like LE -1/12 or LE COMPLEX numbers is in no way funny. You know what was fun? We actually had a good sci humor the last days and it was decent, and it did not involve the same 2010 memes over and over again

>>8658182
>>8658182
basically this
also i really hate how anons have this massive ego complex basically always having to put someone down/being negativy on the thread topic but idk if this is 4chan culture
also ban these /x/ namefags (scimon) because they never actually provide any new information
time bans anyone that isn't genuinely wanting to learn or wanting to teach

>>8658249
I'm not defending low-effort bait threads that just say 1=0.999... you moron, I'm defending "meme" threads like the Wildberger ones or the humour ones. That's what I meant by "balance".

/sci/ should write a paper, and submit it to a peer-reviewed journal.

>>8658268
one word per post

I'll start:
-1/12

>>8658271
We already did

>>8658271
fuck you

>>8658138
Add in people who reply to these to be punished as well. All it does is encourage them to post again.

>>8658232
+10

Anyone who has posted on /pol/ in the past 48 hours is banned from making posts on any board except /b/.

The quality of post would increase everywhere.

>>8658277
Kek

This thread is good. If the rest of /sci/ was only the type of people on this thread right now, it would be good

Calculus captchas.

Integrate to post.

>>8658177
You have some big time unrealistic expectations if you think kids can handle that workload.

>>8658285

This is the real problem right here, /sci/ is a strong contender for the most easily trolled board on 4chan.

permaban people dumber than me

>>8658378
wait what? you dont think 3rd graders can handle the irrationality of sqrt(2) and euclids algorithim for GCD?

wow you're almost thinking rationally here

>>8658562
not much would change

>>8658214
embedded pdf probably wont happen for a bit because of the security risks associated with pdf, though i do agree with #5. this board is really unfriendly with bio/medsci

the troll threads should stay i agree as well

the stickies will devolve into racebaiting garbage

>>8658377

this, this will fix /sci/

>>8658378
i use it for myself and look at the grades as power levels not actual high school curriculum, I just wanna graduate /sci/ high and dominate underclassmen on the way ya know

>>8658578
med fags post here all the time.
some of the best threads are from the parasitology anon/case study anons

>>8658575
rekt

>>8658121

I propose we allow /sci/ feels threads, like so:

>tfw no math gf

>>8658138
>negativity posters
>hate posts
Telling retards to fuck off is an integral part of keeping this board from becoming even shittier

fuck off retard

There is literally nothing wrong with /sci/

It's a perfect blend of serious discussion and shitposting

Stop flat earth shitposters

>>8658377
FUCK YES. WE NEED THIS

>>8658377
yes please

>>8658138
first day out of reddit, faggot?

>>8658377
no more /pol/

>>8658121
I think this board needs less /pol/ spillover and baitposting in general. I like math and science humor (pic related) but ironically/unironically baiting/shilling is getting very old and is taking up way too much board space

I'd also like to see a less hostile environment to life science posters since the other punching bag (CS) can go on /g/, but say a microbiologist or plant biologist can't go to /an/, but that's not as crucial as the b8posting

>>8658377
I wouldn't mind getting some practice

Delete all threads like
>CS is for fags

Ban the specific user that says in every aforementioned thread
>The math content in CS classes is considerably less than most other STEM majors.

Aggressively ban shit posters/argumentative people that troll.

>>8659023
>t. butt blasted CS major

>>>/g/ is your home, stay there.

>>8658962
that's not even remotely amusing. are you retarded?

>>8658178
Climate deniers are either trolls or actually retarded, but what really gets me are the round earther dumbasses.

Either allow metaphysical discussion or create a philosophy board.

>>8658377
Best idea I've seen in any "fix this board" thread across this whole site.

>>8658834
>globe-head detected

Fuck off UN shill.

>>8658246
Isn't it just roleplaying neckbeards?

>>8659123
>Earth is a rhombus please respond

>>8659142
About as plausible as a fucking basketball shaped planet. Take a look at the horizon sometime little guy.

we need to instaban all non math majors

>>8659145
Dude your posts are hilarious.

>>8658377
Couldn't they just type it into Wolfram and call it a day

>>8659161
They aren't supposed to be smartass

>>8659185
extra work that may discourage shitposters

>>8658377
obligatory

>>8658377
this, please

If you want to improve /sci/, then implement the math captchas that have been requested for years.

Can't post on /sci/ if you've posted on /pol/ in the last 48 hours

>>8659136
Stop memeing pls

>>8658138
>>negativity posters
>>hate posts
Where do you think you are?

>>8658138
>>negativity posters
>>hate posts

/sci/ is not your safe space. Fuck off and die in a ditch.

nobody's commented on this bit

"he __ruled to permit__"

correct me if I'm wrong, but I've seen all kinds of retarded idiotic threads here, and nobody had to "rule to permit them"

>>8659435
meta threads use to be a no-no that was sometimes enforced throughout 4chan's history.

>>8658377
best post I've ever read on this board

>>8659443
aha, thanks for the clarification

>>8659435
criticism of the empire is heresy

>>8658377
The reason why this won't happen is because Google needs us to help with their self driving car AI. Why else do you think we have to select the squares with a stop sign?

>>8658377

>>8658377
Well, it was nice knowing you all.
I know I'm a brainlet, but I'll miss you bastards.

>>8658377
But please keep it to double or triple integrals at most. I'm only a CS student over here.

>>8659452
You dont need human input to train a neural net, you only need correct answers. Computer vision is a complicated problem, it would require a great deal of effort from a team of programmers to create a bot to pass this check, as well as a very powerrful computer to calculate the answer in a reqsonable amount of time. It would be easier for a team of programmers to just post spam themsleves.

>>8658126
>8th grade
>C++
I take it whoever wrote this never actually had to deal with idiosyncrasies of C++. ADP, SFINAE, RAII, move semantics, thousands of lines of errors because of templates, name mangling, type inference, how inheritance works and why your classes are 5 times larger than they should be because you forgot virtual, operator overloading etc, etc.

>>8658578
/tg/ already has pdf upload

>>8659185
The retards wouldnt even know about wolfram. Hell they wouldnt even know what to do to find it.
>>8658377
This is truly a brilliant idea

>>8659134
It's in vein with kanjicaptcha idea that's been around for years.

>>8658377
What an hero

>>8658377
Best post ITT

>>8659478
>10th grade
>Drivers ed
I take it whoever wrote this never actually had to deal with idiosyncrasies of manual gearing, clutch control, handling fishtailing, tire blowouts, brake failure, rip out the engine, body work, truck driving, motorbiking, stunt driving, tactical driving, etc, etc.

>>8658377

>>8658121
>just
he said that like 3 months ago, /sci/ had one meta thread too but it died pretty fast.

>>8659583
>he didn't have to drive the car into the canyon, get out of the car while it flies down and paraglide down onto a motorcycle to get his driver's license
Casul

>>8658121
>If you want advice regarding college/university or your career path, go to /adv/ - Advice.

Does anyone actually mind college/uni advice threads? They get deleted really fast (while fedora and /pol/ circle jerk threads last for ages) but I never see anyone get upset over them.

>>8659632
That's a good point actually, I think it's reasonable for one thread dedicated to university or career stuff to be allowed.

>>8659632
Yes. Asking for the same Uni advice is annoying as fuck.
Also the post your current courses/last semester grade threads have little to do with science and belong on boards like /r9k/

Honestly the worst kind of threads are the ones where /pol/lacks are asking for "scientific" support for their racism.

>hey /sci/ what's the scientific reason for niggers having an IQ of 80?

Then when you tell them to fuck off back to /pol/, they call everyone an SJW.

>>8658121
>Let's talk about how to improve the board and the quality of the posts.

Ban everybody who has ever posted here and delete the board.

Ban the memetic anti-CS posts. It was just as bad when it was "engineers suck dicks", both completely derail discussion.

Ban all flat earth topics

Ban "how does science explain drugs/free will/whatever" threads unless they open with actual science or mathematics

Allow those daily putnam/problem solving threads again --- why the fuck did these get banned? The board became colossally shit when these got the axe

Harsh bans for blatant /pol/iticking

Not sure where all the /pol/ hate is coming from. There's a difference between /pol/ and /nu-pol/ (oldfags vs newfags), so much so that even /pol/ is having a hard time with it. People come from /b/ or r/t_D and post cancer almost all the time now. It was brought up in their meta yesterday. Don't be so quick to attack another board without knowing what's going on in that board right now.

>>8658233
I agree with this completely. I come to /sci/ to help people and answer questions that they may have. Not too long ago there was an OP asking questions about careers in statistics. I was giving thoughtful answers, as I am a statistician, but other anons shit all over me with nonsense about pure math being better, make 300k/year, solve my meme problem, etc. things that are either subjective or outliers.

>>8659734
>Not sure where all the /pol/ hate is coming from

It's because of their repetitive troll threads disguised as "science". We have them almost every day and every single time it devolves in 300+ posts shitflinging contest.

>>8658121
major dick measuring contests shouldn't be allowed (IE: "CS is shit", "Math is useless", "Which major has the smartest students?")

No intelligence dick measuring (IE: IQ threads)

No bait threads (IE: Climate change shit, race bait shit)

That's it really. You might kill /sci/ doing this but you might as well. This board is pretty bad at the moment.

>>8658126
Completely unrealistic. Don't take that seriously at all.

>>8658138
>>8658149
>>8658232
Seconding this. /pol/-posters need to go.
Also, frogposters are retarded high-school millenials 95% of the time.
They need to be banned, or post their questions in the stupid questions general.

Also, any post that ends like this
>scientifically speaking
needs to be trashed.

>>8658214
The main deterrent for biofags is that biothreads are flooded by /pol/-tards and frost-posting high-schoolers.

>>8659107
Still better than the 50th "climate change is fake" thread and 20th "blacks are stupider genetically"

>>8659734
Pol was shit years ago, we tried to warn them but they didnt listen. Now they're filled with autistic sycophants and they need to be fucking purged from /sci/

>ban /pol/itial posts. there's nothing more degenerate than these idiots screaming about a liberal conspiracy in academia
>actually enforce the rules in the sticky and delete threads like 'what should I major in'

>>8658377
>implying it wouldn't make this board more dead than /gd/ , /3/ or /n/

>interesting threads about the metaphysics of consciousness (where productive discussion involving physics actually happens) are deleted
>absolute cancer like IQ circlejerking threads, "what should my major be", rankings of fields, "tfw you're a brainlet" are kept up

>>8659825

They aren't deleted. They just get pruned from lack of participation. That I find even worse, as the board seems to be so overrun by shitposters

I'd just like to remind everyone asking for stricter mods that it was mods who nearly caused /sci/'s death in the first place by having a twitchy trigger finger a few years ago.

>>8659929
>Implying that /sci/ isn't dead.

>>8659734
how is being a statistician? Thinking of doing a masters in stats after my physics undergrad. Do you remember what that other thread was called so I can look it up in archive?

finally, an official /sci/tposting general, was waiting a long time for this one

>>8659960
And your first post was useless. Long time coming.

I recommend that we ban fat autists from /pol/.

>>8658214
pdf sharing would be great, so many other imageboards allow it so I don't see a reason against it

>>8659963
how many people will post on /sci/ then?
really makes you think, huh

I think /pol/ leaking is affecting a lot of boards right now. I know it's already been mentioned but they need to be kept on /pol/ or else every other thread devolved into race baiting. This isn't a /sci/ specific problem either.

>>8659974
If you want your box pwned, yeah it's a good idea.

>>8658126
>tfw human memory is so flawed that I remember responding to *specifically* this post a year ago
>thanks to the guy who posted it, a region of my brain is permanently clogged up with an autistic shitpost and I can't forget it no matter what I do, even an entire fucking year later

Fuck, after looking at that image I even remembered posting my own proposition for a supposed "optimal school system" somewhere above it. Imagine how much of your brain is clogged up with information that has the equivalent quality of random noise from reading 4chan over all those years, and you can't even feel it until a picture reminds you. It's like constantly flooding your PC's RAM without a functioning garbage collector

>>8660021
This fascinates me too. I always thought human memory is like a hash table. You couldn't list every book and magazine you've ever read, but if asked you if you've read [book] before you'd know right away. We need the key otherwise it takes a long time.

>>8658151
>stupid enough to try it
From 1st to 8th that's what my private school was like. It's not as crazy as you think.

>>8659911
>They aren't deleted. They just get pruned from lack of participation
Nope, I've seen them get flat out deleted.

>That I find even worse, as the board seems to be so overrun by shitposters

Absolutely. It feels like in last year /sci/ has turned into /b/ tier posting.

>>8660202
>Absolutely. It feels like in last year /sci/ has turned into /b/ tier posting.
A lot of boards feel that way because /b/ has gone to shit and their cancer is spreading to other boards.

Mods and Jannies need to enforce the rules, and users of boards need to report posts/threads that vioate the rules.

>>8660202
>>>8659911 (You)
>>They aren't deleted. They just get pruned from lack of participation
>Nope, I've seen them get flat out deleted.

Anecdotal evidence, at best. I have not seen threads be deleted in the last half year and I always scour the lower end of the catalogue (I sort by number of replies), because of the aforementioned tendency for bigger threads to be full of shitters

>>8659696
Putnam was banned? I rarely come here, but it was enjoyable to read people solving them and sometimes trying to crack one myself. And then I come here one day and they're gone.

>>8659696
strongly agree

>>8660021
You tell me. I can't unsee the fucking dog. It's been 5 years already.

>>8660244
Reporting doesn't help because these climate threads aren't really breaking the rules. We need to change the rules and I'll happily report every shit thread I see.

Isn't /sci/ meant to have rules. It's like it isn't moderated at all.

>>8658377
only correct answer

>>8660598
I'm not seeing it anon, tell me where the head is.

>>8660685
In the middle. It's a bulldog. I don't know what else it's supposed to be though.

>>8658146
No, the pastas are funny, but we should not overuse them indeed.

>>8660244
/b/ never changes.

>>8658377
How difficult would this be to implement anyway?

Hiragana/kanji captchas on /a/ and /jp/ would also be nice.

>>8658562
Smoking a pipe. So permabanned no one?

>>8658121
That post is several months old. Stop falling for the bait

>>8658121
>improve the board and the quality of the posts.
Got something mathematical to post?
[math]USE~LATEX[/math]
LAZY FUCKS

>>8658138

Yes, please!

>>8661822
You ain't the boss of me.

>>8658377
please mods add this

>>8658377
yes best fix in the board

$$\frac{amidoing}{mathjax}^{right}$$

>>8658377
God yes.

I mean, I come here to avoid studying. I'd be a fucking calc god after a month of this

>>8659473
hopefully this wont be the case. anything over single integrals of the simple indefinite form will deter all posters equally.
the reason: it is faster to just do it in wolfram