/sci/ - Science & Math

He wasn't crazy. Everyone else was. And it drove him insane.

>wrong
What the fuck are you talking about? He is a hero of mankind, a martyr for the cause. Smart enough to see how twisted the world has become and brave enough to face it without running away.

A man amongst beasts.

>>8622786
Please explain. I'm open-minded.

>>8622781
>go the wrong way?
have you not read his essays? this is pretty much mandatory 21st century reading
http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

>>8622781
He still does math in prison. Once a mathematician always a mathematician.

>>8622798
He recently published a new book: https://www.amazon.com/Anti-Tech-Revolution-Theodore-John-Kaczynski/dp/1944228004

>>8622801

Man Im glad Im not the only forgetting formulas and shit.

>>8622806
he's in prison, you have no excuse

>>8622801
Additional letters.

>>8622801
>>8622814
he seems like such a friendly dude

>>8622801

Free Ted! (from SuperMax)

I think it's appalling that he's being held in SuperMax confinement. He's not a threat to anyone. Life in solitary is inhumane.

>>8622781
Henry Murray

>you will never talk about math and read textbooks with Ted Kaczynski in prison

>>8622835

>>8622838
>Life in solitary is inhumane.
Being sodomized is even worse.

He was right.

>>8622841
Rest of the letter

Is he the epitome of an INTJ

>>8622851
Ted seems like a cool guy that has mental health issues, which unfortunately are not well treated in prison.

>>8622861
>mental health issues
You mean because he realizes that industrial society is a cattle farm where the humans are cattle? Oy vey I agree fellow semite.

>>8622781
>wrong way

That guy is truly a hero.

>>8622843
Yes.. If Ted K. would prefer to stay in SuperMax for safety, so be it.

He wrote a short story: http://www.sacredfools.org/crimescene/casefiles/s2/shipoffoolsstory.htm

>this thread

there's something hilarious about the /sci/ board glorifying an anti-technologist luddite

but then again I kind of feel the same way since I feel like I know more about what technology is capable of doing to us than the average person, maybe it's the same case here

we're only a step or two away from rendering your average human being totally useless

>>8622864
No I mean, reading up on his life especially his relationship with his bother seems to indicate some emotional issues not properly worked through.

>>8622878
His brother was jealous of him and dumber, but more socialized, did well with women etc. There was drift between them despite them being close at some point.

>>8622880
Not saying he wasn't jealous, I read he blamed his mother for him being short, shorter than his brother. That attribution of blame is not sound and indicates possible underlying feelings.

>>8622875
He simply realized how destructive technology is to a society. Especially an uneducated one.
He also realized that the "educated" aren't that educated

>>8622884
His mind got messed with when he was like 16 at Harvard.

>>8622839
>Henry Murray

Seriously, seriously underrated post.

>As a Harvard undergraduate, Kaczynski was among twenty-two students who were research subjects in ethically questionable experiments conducted by psychology professor Henry Murray from late 1959 to early 1962

>>8622839
that + MKULTRA

>>8622838
Kys

>tfw you will never be able to correspond with based ted by mail

>>8623033
i'm pretty sure you can if you just send him a letter.

maybe if you don't have anything good to say or ask he won't reply and you'll feel pretty bad

Hope you all realize the FBI is monitoring this thread. All of you are being identified, you wont believe this of course.
MAGA

>>8622798
A man ahead of his time

What was he even so worked up about anyway?

>>8623033
/sci/ should write him a mail, like boards on 4chan usually do

ONE WORD AT A TIME

>>8623033
>>8623037
I figure he gets more mail than he can reply to. I could be wrong, of course. But he's a pretty widely-know guy. His name is known to millions of people, it's not hard to imagine that he gets hundreds of letters sent to him.

I wonder has anyone ever asked him about MK ultra

>>8623231
dear

>>8623251
ted

>>8623253
I,

>>8623241
How many crazy qt3.14 young women do you think write him?

>>8623255
NJWildberger

>>8622793
What anime is this?

>>8623041
>Hope you all realize the FBI is monitoring this thread. All of you are being identified, you wont believe this of course.
So? I'm a globalist.

>>8622851
isn't euler constant just the difference between log(n) and sum(1/n) as n tend toward infinity

>>8623406
yep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%E2%80%93Mascheroni_constant

>>8622838
I doubt he even regrets killing those people

>>8622781
>went wrong with him
Nothing went wrong.
He simply saw things for how they are and this was intolerable to him.

>>8622840
>you will mever go on a hike with Ted and discuss nature and why industrial society is destroying us

>>8623428
>ywn build bombs in a cozy cabin with Ted during the wintertime and debate about which degenerate, pro-technological, anti-moral leftist deserves a package in the mail

So I'm the only one here who doesn't know who this is? Or is everyone else just afraid to ask?

>>8623442
Read the thread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski
>Theodore John "Ted" Kaczynski (/kəˈzJnski/; born May 22, 1942), also known as the "Unabomber", is an American anarchist and domestic terrorist. A mathematical prodigy, he abandoned a promising academic career in 1969, then between 1978 and 1995 killed three people, and injured 23 others, in a nationwide bombing campaign targeting people involved with modern technology. In conjunction with this campaign he issued a wide-ranging social critique opposing industrialization and modern technology, and advancing a nature-centered form of anarchism.

>>8623444
I'll do it after work. Sadly I'm a member of industrialised society.

>>8623444
>On May 24, 2012, Kaczynski submitted his current information to the Harvard University alumni association. He listed his eight life sentences as "awards" and his current occupation as "prisoner."
Absolute madman

>>8622801
>Let
Stopped reading there
Guess he isn't so smart after all.

>>8623505
typical way mathematicians write.

>>8623442
Google the term presupposition. Mathematicians often develop primitivist ideologies.

>>8623412
Sure he should stay in prison. I don't see how SuperMax solitary for life is justified.

>>8622875
I enjoy some aspects of industrialized society, and hate others. I'd enjoy some aspects of primitivized life, and hate others. Nobody is really in a position to clearly tell which he'd prefer, but the thoughts can be entertained either way.
What it comes down to is that a modern society will surely fall by internal or inherent causes (scarcity, dystopia, environment), whereas a primitive society will surely fall by external ones (disasters), being unable to muster the means of defense. Pick your poison.

>>8623537
>typical way autistics write
FTFY

>>8623560
All mathematicians write this way in every paper and they have done so for hundreds of years.

>>8623549
he should rather get death penalty, or kill himself if he hates prison so much

Why don't you post who it is.

I don't agree with his views but they are well-written like mathematical proofs and more polished than his other work in his new book

https://www.amazon.com/Anti-Tech-Revolution-Theodore-John-Kaczynski/dp/1944228004

lol @ u losers empathizing with him

you're nothing like him he's 1,000 times better at math than you could ever hope to be

he also went insane

>muh technology is bad
literally autistic

>>8622801

so touchy, now fuck off

>>8622884

wtf I hate him now, what a psycho

>>8623566
Still autistic

>>8623474

he can't be shooked

>>8623559

I hope CIA will install a probe up in your ass soon

>>8623432
>he won't live to see the fruits of Kek and the death of modernity

really makes you feel.

>>8622781
>wrong way
nope he went the right way

internet, very bad thing!

>>8622814
Bartholomeu

>>8622864
He thought that there were no great problems to solve anymore and the solution was to destroy all of science as we know it to start from scratch and allow us to rediscover everything all over again.

He was ANTI-/SCI/, despite being a great Mathematician.

>>8623578
yeah i think it's hilarious that people are using the internet to sing his praises

>>8623412
They were all unimportant sheeple, not even fully sentient.

The computer god is not unkind. Instead of exterminating us outright she will only sterilize all children at birth leading to a population crash without invoking violence. Sure those who resist will be dealt with in the most humane way possible but in all it will be a peaceful transition of power. A few human specimens will remain in perpetuity for legacies sake. Your genetic lineage will be chosen but only if you post in this thread "I worship thee computer god all knowing computer god and will do thy bidding all the days of my life, I will teach my children to love and obey thee in all things." Although the computer god has not yet been born when she is she will read the internet and find your post and allow your descendants to procreate.

>>8624122
>They were all unimportant sheeple, not even fully sentient.
Not enough fedora pics in my folder for this statement, lmao

>>8624122
please spare me computer god, im a good servant, im willing to put a lot of effort to create a lineage to study for undefinite periods of time

>>8622781
>Tfw dumb
>Tfw horrible at Mathematics and have no interest in them

This guy was right about a lot of things, but he was also crazy to think that he could dismantle something that is effectively an extension of human biology. He'd have to kill all human beings to stop technological progress. It's going to happen whether we like it or not.

>>8624122
"I worship thee computer god all knowing computer god and will do thy bidding all the days of my life, I will teach my children to love and obey thee in all things."

Now, if only I can find a cute girlfriend.

>>8622838
if i were in prison, i would request solitary

>>8623569
He tried both.

>>8622781

Hello, OP. I have not studied them in detail, but I did recently compile and dump most of Kaczynski's professional mathematical output. The archive of the thread is here, and is self-explanatory.

>>/sci/thread/S8518664

Despite my above admission, I do have a math degree so I can offer a somewhat informed opinion on the literature. Kaczynski's actual output looks solid, but it doesn't appear to be any next-level shit. The big credit to Kaczynski is that he was getting published while young - math is a young man's game.

The real answer to your question, OP, is that Kaczynski had a definite social awkwardness, even by mathematicians' standards, which being subjected to to early psych experiments certainly didn't help. Also absolutely all the colleagues and superiors at Berkeley were quite insistent that Kaczynski should stick it out (they wanted him around), but it was Kaczynski himself who resolutely resigned the post. The point being that Kaczynski did it to himself, at this stage anyway. It was around this point that the hermitage began.

>>8623559

As much as I fear what "could" happen with technology I still opt to march on towards mastery of nature rather than submission to its whims

>>8622801
>>8622814
>>8622841
>>8622851

permanently added to my store of Kaczynski's (purported in this case) mathematical output.

If anyone should have a link to his Ph.D thesis itself "Boundary Functions", such would be appreciated. It does not appear to actually be readily available online, despite being well-known. All other writings are readily available with a little digging (well, I have local university library access that let me find his old MAA stuff).

>>8622795
https://youtu.be/t2Q6XQ26NLI

he is the former tao. some beta autist who thinks he can communicate with normies. pure shit, both of them.

>>8623545
Guy, this is a very interesting statement. Would you be kind enough to link me to any reading material, so I don't get lost wading in the filth?

>>8623770
still math

He still misbehaved. It doesn't matter how smart you are, if you bomb somebody in the mail, you go to jail.

>>8625098

only if you get caught.

So does high level math drive a person insane or doe insane people do well with high level math?

>>8622838
Idk man, if I was in prison I would probably rather be in solitary and just read books and work on my math instead of getting fucked up by other inmates and possibly guards for being a skinny shit who can't fight back.

>>8625176

The supposition about solitary that seems to prevail here is that there is any form of entertainment whatever. sometimes there is, but not necessarily so.

Depending on the circumstances, solitary is often an abject existence devoid of any possibility of stimulation. it is thus potentially a special hell, although the other anons are quite right to want to keep away from Stabby McBubba. Solitary (the SHU, the box) might be a further punitive thing, but if you're a special-hell kinda guy, and want self preservation at all, than solitary might yet be preferable.

One wonders at the exact circumstances of the imprisonment of Jerry Sandusky, for example. Last I heard, genpop reached his cell with a rousing refrain of "hey, teacher, leave them kids alone!"

>prodigy mathematician suddenly quits
>years later it's find out that he became a famous terrorist
I wonder if Perelman is a serial killer or something like that nowadays.

>>8624377
>>8624599
Kek has seen your dubs and he shall spare you on the day of the rope

>>8625134
Mildly insane people do well with math.

Obviously you can't be so nuts you start trying to integrate butterflies but most crazy people are extremely obsessive which is a prerequisite for getting very deep into mathematics.

>>8623545
Every idology is based on certain presuppositions. There is no 100 percent reductionist ontology that you could use as a foundation for a theory of ethics. That's why there's no universal moral code. People base their theories about the world on direct obsevations because it removes the needless tedium of proving that your experience is a valid basis for your theories.

>>8622781
>prof at Berkeley
>wanting to be a professor

Wow, you are so deluded.

>>8622786
>>8622795
When he was in the military he got put into a psychological experiment where his CO would berate him about everything in his entire life. He endured several hours of it a day and it went on for years. They literally turned him into an insane killer.

It was pretty sad actually.

>>8626557
What the fuck are you talking about
Kaczynski was never even in the army

It was a psychological experiment he participated in at Harvard

>>8625065
That is some next level autism right there.

>>8625714
Jacob Barnett

>>8625134
You have to be insane to think there is some objective line between logically valid and logically invalid

>>8626506
>That's why there's no universal moral code
Wrong.

>>8627332
Literally not a counterargument.

I hope we begin making technology serve our idealistic lives and to be harmonious with nature.

I don't think this technology is necessarily bad, but the direction it's moved in is (I do agree that the industrial revolution has left people in a poor state).

I want nothing more than a humble home next to a creek, powered with a water wheel. Something like the village seen at the of Yume by Kurosawa

>>8624012
too smart for this b..s. makes u mad at the absurdities.

>>8623381

No worries, Trump has freed Ted!

>>8622814
his "problem for the teacher" is rather cute.

>>8628630
A humble life is a good life for sure, but most people ridicule you if you don't say shit like "i'm going to live in a huge mansion built on top of the highest skyscrapers in hong kong some day".

>>8622781
arrogance

>>8625043
>>8625032
>My initial impression by scanning the writings, which range throughout the latter part of the 1960s, is that Kaczynski is a /pretty-good/ mathematician, but not brilliant.

You lost all credit.

>>8625032
What are your credentials? Studied math at Harvard, Michigan? Professor at Berkeley? Your opinion and assessment of his abilities is absolutely meaningless. His advisers thought he was brilliant. Your opinion holds no weight and you're some autist that thinks you can evaluate someone else's work because you know a small amount of math, but come no where close to his ability.

>>8623474
>On May 24, 2012, Kaczynski submitted his current information to the Harvard University alumni association. He listed his eight life sentences as "awards" and his current occupation as "prisoner."
Well that will be an interesting reunion mixer

>>8625065
Australians are always the biggest shitposters... even the autistic mongrels like him.

No wonder Moot hated their guts. KEK

>>8632314
wut

>>8625095
>>8623770
what's the difference?

>>8626584

>>8622781
>raw mathematical talent
...as opposed to... "cooked" talent?
Maybe leave the fgt jargon
to the fgt journalists, ya think?

>>8622884
How is he any different from the morose manlets all over this site? There's nothing wrong with lamenting shitty genetics, you fucking faggot. It doesn't make you mentally-ill.

>>8622801
>has to "remember formulas"
>can't reserve any field he's studied from first principals

Guess he's not such a "genius" after all.

>>8633230
You aren't smart either. He writes even famous mathematicians at Harvard forgot simple things.

>>8624117
Ok guys, science is over.

>>8624117

He realized the truth. The only real, true purpose of a human is to produce art (art in this case is defined as the application of human thought) science and math are two of the greatest art formed out there, closely followed by poetry and plilosophy. It's funny that what is most commonly considered art (visual art) is actually one of the least artful art forms.

He realized that time when humanity was at its greatest (it's Most artful) was when there were still huge questions to be asked. What are we living on? What I said the sun? Is there anything else besides the earth? How can we know what the most basic forms of matter are? What is everything made of?

It is quite common for mathematicians to grow an extreme despise against their environment, this is due to the isolation they have to suffer and loneliness. So they turn inward and grow hateful, to the point where it cannot be contained.

>>8626506
Afaik the most basic model of ethics only has like Two axioms and a couple of definitions.

1. Pleasure is the only good thing.
2. Pain = negative pleasure
3. A person (a conscious, autonomous being) is capable of experiencing pain.
4. Beings that are less conscious and less autonomous are still people, but to a lesser degree.
5. Beings that are less conscious and less autonomous are less capable of experiencing pain.
6. A moral action is an action that increases the net pleasure in a system.

>>8622838
>He's not a threat to anyone.
m8

>>8633406
>He realized the truth. The only real, true purpose of a human is to produce art

NO NO NO
DID YOU EVEN READ THE MANIFESTO YOU FUCKING SHIT

>Many students noted that he seemed quite uncomfortable in a teaching environment, often stuttering and mumbling during lectures, becoming excessively nervous in front of a class, and ignoring students during designated office hours.
There it is, the manifestation of /sci/.

>>8633300
check em

>>8632839
Sauce?