/sci/ - Science & Math

>>8576612
So we can cure cancer and narcissist in one fell swoop. What are we waiting for!!

>>8576618
You will lose genius and prodigy that are essential to mankind's progress and evolution.

Bump for Terry

>>8576621
if you have the power to edit genetics then why not just make a person with super human mental capabilities?

>>8576628
The problem is, that it would seem true genius is tied to disorders.

My personal opinion is there's some kind of limit to how smart and normal one person can be.

Transhumanism will get the noggin really noggin when everything it accomplishes flies in the face of those who created it.

Frankenstein's monster in a way, I imagine they'll feel so ostracized they'll probably kill themselves 9/10, and the ones who actually do something will be very politically radical, autistic, etc.

>>8576636
with disorders, it's mostly a compromise with geniuses losing some form of higher function I.E. socializing to gain another higher function I.E. superb math ability. The brain only has so much energy available but with genetic engineering, you could potentially increase the energy allowance and metabolism of the person (since food is abundant) and then have a ultra brainlet

>>8576612
>Dailymail

>>8576612
>We dont know what causes for one to become a genius
>but if we edit genes that cause mental disease we may not get geniuses

hahahahhahahahahahahahahah

>>8576612
No shit, considering a 'gene defect' (Asperger's syndrome/HFA) contributes massively to genius.

>>8576628
Because genius neurology is atypical, so you'd have to give that infant some form of mental disability. That's pretty unethical, yes?

>Meme science tries to tell real science what to do

>>8576612
dont edit your genes warns one scientist,

your genes warns dont edit one scientist,

dont edit your warns scientist one genes,

edit genes dont warns one scientist your,

one genes edit your warns scientist dont,

warns edit genes dont one your scientist

there my article is finished gib moni pls

Is the success of modern day science a cumulative achievement or individual achievement? What I am trying to say is, If we continuously kill off the very intelligent people, so that average IQ rests at say 90 instead 100, would humans eventually achieve the same level of knowledge (even though it might take thousands of more years, because individual contributions would be smaller).
If that's not the case, then can we conclude that there are knowledge that we will never discover because current human IQ has an upper limit?

>>8576645
So humans will essentially become aliens with green skin and big heads.

>>8576612
It it could simply be that a number of people with genius genes tend to carry the mental illness and cancer genes. Doesn't mean we cant isolate the two and get rid of one. We have no proof yet which says whether or not they're bundled together, so we just have to go in and find out.

>>8576943
Will we also get enourmous genitals capable of ten thousand orgasms in a row?

>>8576943
ayy lmao

just edit out the lethal diseases, then

not like these fuckfaces would be useful to us dead, anyway

and the article compares bipolar disorder and cancer, the fuck?

>>8576612
there are no such things as geniuses. just hard work. your best example, Einstein, got all his ideas because he lived in the best environment suited to create breakthroughs. he stole all those other people's ideas from his job and thus came up with his own.

>>8576957
Stop arguing with facts, probability is the only thing that matters. That's why Trump lost, he didn't give a shit about a priori logical arguments.

>>8577569
>there are no such things as geniuses. just hard work.
This.
Bright individual plus mad work -> Euler, Tao, etc...

>>8577604
>>8577569
>Bright individual
>As in genius.
>As in a predisposition do excel in academia.
Gosh, that semantic argument of yours sure got the neurons firing.
Also, try explaining savant syndrome, you effete brainlets?

why would cancer do that? it is a physical disease while the other is mental

>>8577613
>Also, try explaining savant syndrome, you effete brainlets?
Kim Peak. A truly accomplished mathematician.

>>8577637
>Kim Peak. A truly accomplished mathematician.
>Cherry-picking a truly brainlet past-time.
You do know the amount of useful savants right and you literally choose one of the worst examples and think I was going to let you get away with that? Though luck, bozo.

>>8577569
>>8577604

Explain this then.

Protip: You can't.

Also:

> Using Euler and Tao as examples of not having to be born a genius to excel.

I know geniuses were all either schizo or autistic or depressed or otherwise have some sort of mental "anomaly". By definition, having above "average" intelligence is not the "norm". I would still prefer to be a genius than a normie, even if it causes me to be unhappy. I'm not happy as a normie anyway.

I knew geniuses were all either schizo or autistic or depressed or otherwise have some sort of mental "anomaly". By definition, having above average intelligence is not the "norm". I would still prefer to be a genius than a normie, even if it causes me to be unhappy. I'm not happy as a normie anyway.

>>8577569
>there are no such things as geniuses
pfft and how would YOU know that?

>>8577694
>Be me:
>Born with genetic Asperger's syndrome.
>ADHD.
>Mysophobic OCD.
>Sound and light sensitivity.
>Genius range IQ.
>Natural talent for STEM.
>Become lazy and too much vidya.
>End up with two children by the time I'm 21.
>Now trying to fix my past mistakes.
Even with 'genius' genetics it doesn't solve everything.

>>8576612
Couldn't we cure schizophrenia, but then also make everybody geniuses, or at least make them a lot smarter than they currently are? If we have the ability to edit that part of the genome, why wouldn't we just do that? The world will be infinitely better if everyone is more intelligent. I will never believe that retarded Hollywood myth about how everyone, even the dumbest among as, are just as valuable as Stephen fucking Hawking. Fucking please. Stupidity is the only evil, and we'll all be better off if we eliminate it.

>>8577702
We must also abolish vidya, but I agree. It's not going to be panacea, certainly not for everyone. It would still be a vast improvement.

>>8576612 (OP)
Couldn't we cure schizophrenia, but then also make everybody geniuses, or at least make them a lot smarter than they currently are? If we have the ability to edit that part of the genome, why wouldn't we just do that? The world will be infinitely better if everyone is more intelligent. I will never believe that retarded Hollywood myth about how everyone, even the dumbest among us, are just as valuable as Stephen fucking Hawking. Fucking please. Stupidity is the only evil, and we'll all be better off if we eliminate it.

>>8577702
We must also abolish vidya, but I agree. It's not going to be panacea, certainly not for everyone. It would still be a vast improvement.

>>8577716
Perhaps not abolish, as I'm all for freewill, but we should certainly treat it as a 'harmful past-time', the same way we treat tobacco and alcohol.

The game that robbed me of my destiny was World of Warcraft, roleplaying more specifically, between the ages of twelve to twenty; fuck me, eight years of my life wasted on that crap.

>>8577716
video games are like a bottomless pit where talent goes to waste

one of the greatest evils of our time

>>8577729
>freewill
Goodness me, where did you pick up such language?

>>8577734
Probably in the leftist hotbed that is Argent Dawn, kill me now, kill me now.

does this mean somebody can edit away my schizophrenia genes and turn me into a normalfag?

pls this illness is very debilitating and I'm pretty dumb anyway

Send help

>>8578082
Take a high dose of DXM (and throw on some music so you don't have a bad trip). It cured my schizophrenia in one session.

>>8577669
How many of the famous mathematicians are savants?
More like turbo-autists devoted to mathematics.
Le idiot savant is a meme.

>>8577684
>Explain this then.
He's the GOAT.
You can't compare it to peasants.

>>8577713
It's simple to cure schizophrenia, just alter genes to make everyone schizophrenic and no one would be. Lol. Without context most genius is actually mental illness, adhd is curiosity and drive, ocd the necessity for organization, schizophrenia is acute awareness, and depression is existential dread in finding some teleological purpose. And you can argue the opposite. Normal is just what people decide it to be.

>>8578096
Jesus christ be careful with this one, a dirty dirty drug. You can get really bad depersonalization with some sustained use