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Honest to God question /sci/, I'm curious as to why African countries score on average of 80-70 on CULTURE FAIR IQ tests?

>> No.8393669

>>8393666
It's genetics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ

>The general figure for the heritability of IQ ...rises to around 0.75 for late teens and adults

Inb4 people cry about another board existing.

>> No.8393678

>>8393669
fpbp

Africans as well as African americans score low on IQ tests on average because it's in their blood. For some reason this fact makes some people lose their minds.

>> No.8393683

>>8393666
it's because niggurs r dumb, wake up already sheep

>> No.8393684
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8393684

>>8393666
It's environment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_and_intelligence

>It is estimated that genes contribute about 20–40% of the variance in intelligence in childhood

Reminder the (biased) tests were performed on children.

>> No.8393688

>>8393684

If that's the case, what is it about Africa that makes people stupid?

>> No.8393689

>>8393666
I don't know the answer, but I can say for sure that low intelligence is another factor leading to higher attractiveness of niggers in the eyes of women. Women are naturally anti-intellectually. They deeply despise intelligent men and treat them with utmost contempt.

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>>8393688
Idk, can't you come up with any idea?

>> No.8393692

>>8393669
>>8393684
There's no way to prove it isn't both

>>8393688
No food, medicine, infrastructure, education, shelter

>> No.8393694

>>8393688
too many female development aid workers

>> No.8393697

>>8393689
Jesus, I can smell your neckbeard through my computer screen.

>> No.8393700

>>8393697
Male feminist detected. Defending sluts on the internet won't help you getting laid.

>> No.8393723

>>8393684

Do white people in Africa also score low in intelligence tests?

>> No.8393726

>>8393669
This, it's all genetics.

Also, you can't really become smarter, you just "remember" things better. You basically improve your crystallize intelligence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_and_crystallized_intelligence


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_memory

>> No.8393729

>>8393692
>There's no way to prove it isn't both

Except for adoption studies and twin studies.

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>>8393666
Because they didn't evolve as much intellectually as Northern Europeans or South East Asians

Obviously

>>8393688
The people that live there for one

>> No.8393751

>>8393689
Women treat submissive males as undesirable. Intelligence has nothing to do with it. Perceived signs of weakness do.

If you are a weakling faggot, you deserve to be despised by girls. It's only nature.

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>>8393723
Here's the case of Bermuda, although it's not an African country. I don't believe there's any study on the topic. I would assume white Namibians and South Africans do score higher, due to the fact they historically belong to the "dominant caste", pretty much like in the US.

>> No.8393762

>Muh IQ


Not science fuck off you shitters.

>> No.8393777

>>8393697
Neckbeards are the first to jump to a womens defense you neckbeard.

>> No.8393801

>>8393762
Except that it is.

Next thing you'll say is that quantum physics isn't real science either

>> No.8393802

>>8393801
>quantum physics isn't real science either

Quantum physics isn't real science. It's all on the complex plane you pleb.

>> No.8393821

>>8393684
This anon is correct.

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>>8393801
Pseudoscience is not valid in this board, brainlet.

Get back to shilling on facebook trumplet, >>>/8gag/

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>>8393835
>calling someone a trumplet AND a shill

>> No.8393856

>>8393669
Is that why I used to be a straight-A student and now pass every class with 50%?
>tfw I literally got my bachelor's degree with 50.001%

>> No.8393867

>>8393835
Go back to somalia, nigger.

>> No.8393871

>>8393867
Go back to /pol/, Stormcuck.

>> No.8393884
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8393884

It's a mixture of population genetics, diet and education.

It's already established that many African countries are technically running at sub-optimal IQ averages. In other words you have populations of people with lower IQs than they really should have because of constant generations of pregnant mother's and children with poor diets.

Not saying a better diet alone will boost their averages to or over a 100. But there are regional populations who really shouldn't be in the 70's when their neighboring countries are in the 80's and theirs little environmental difference.

It's effectively a slightly more dramatic version of the South Korea vs. North Korea IQ difference where the South has at least 3 IQ points over north despite being a part of the same genomic population.

>> No.8393886

>>8393666
>Lack of nutrition leads to improper brain growth

The same logic can be applied to the drop in criminality by removing lead from paint and gas. Economi conditions for the middle class have gone down and the poor have been getting poorer, what kept criminality down? Removal of lead. Lead essentially destroys a person's (frontal lobe specifically) brain.

So, what does this have to do with nutrition and low IQs in Africa?
>No regulation, companies dump heavy metals anywhere (leading to retardation and criminality)
>Few well vaccinated areas (inb4 Anti-Vaxx), viral infection or parasitic (MMR, diptheria, severe respiratory infection, Malaria) during pregnancy adversely affects brain development (lower IQ)
>Cortisol retards brain development. When children are poor, malnourished, or under constant threat of violence, cortisol is in constant circulation.
>Largest contributor: malnourishment. The brain cannot achieve its optimal state if there is not good nutrition. Mothers are are emaciated cannot produce ample amounts of Breast milk. Children need DHA and affiliated nutrients to support brain growth. Where does that come from? Breast milk.

To conclude, yes, heritability is present, but even the most resilient seed needs good soil to grow.

>> No.8393934

>>8393884
>North Korea IQ
The North Korean IQ has never been measured, it's just Lynn's interpolation based on the South Korean IQ, just like for almost 60% of the countries from that one study you're thinking of

>> No.8394186

why can't people just fucking accept the IQ gap? liberal race relations in this country are founded on the principle of equality and it's just a false premise. The moment we admit to inequality is the moment we start making true social progress.

if I claimed a certain breed of dog had relatively low intelligence on average - and had the same amount of evidence to support it, no one would question it. no one would criticize it or even care much, it'd be widely accepted as true. But because we can't be rude we have to avoid any discussion of race and IQ.

>> No.8394352

>>8393669
It could also be things that are determined shortly after birth. A twin study wouldn't be able to tease that out.
I'm not saying that the races are equal but I think early environment is involved as well as genetics.

>> No.8394364

>>8393739
>/sci/ board
>doesn't fact check

that quote's made up and you're fucking retarded, back to /pol/

>> No.8394384

>people who have no free education, have to deal with their corrupt government and have western countries polluting their ground and water with imported trash.

>> No.8394390

>>8394186

I don't think that the fact that an IQ gap exists is being disputed. I think the point of disagreement is the root cause of said IQ gap. There are two primary camps: the nature camp and the nurture camp.

To me, it seems certain people in this thread aren't posing this question because they're legitimately interested in the answer, but because they already have an interpretation that they wish to see validated for some reason. If you asked me, I would say that the IQ gap is caused by a mixture of environmental, cultural, and genetic factors. Culture among the blacks in the US (and many parts of Africa) doesn't encourage academic pursuits; as a result, rarely is it encouraged for blacks to pursue latent intellectual interests, and rarely is it encouraged for individuals to procreate with those who do.

Between generations of poverty, cultural discouragement of displays of intellect, and the fact that black people are alive whose great-grandparents were the children of slaves, there are many factors that discourage the spread of "high-IQ" genes among the black population. Ignoring the genetic component, however, let me ask you this: I drop you off as a baby with a nomadic warring tribe in sub-Saharan Africa intermittently affected by guerrilla warfare between rebel groups and a larger national military. Let's even give you a 170 IQ. Do you independently invent infrastructure, create new branches of mathematics, and contribute beyond the current state of progress, despite being in an environment that is, for all intents and purposes, decoupled from that progress? Do you even survive?

Let's relax the parameters of the scenario a bit. Let's instead give you a more realistic 130 IQ, but you're born to a single mother whose family has been ripe with poverty, drug activity, and crime (as both aggressor and victim) for the past 8 generations. Do you care about the IQ test you're taking for some upper-middle class academics for a few dollars?

>> No.8394482
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>>8394186
>The moment we admit to inequality is the moment we start making true social progress.

>> No.8394488

>>8393666
IQ is something invented to toy with smart peoples emotions. If you're any smart at all you should disregard it.

>> No.8394489

>>8394364
>Being this mad

Found the Sub Saharan

>Implying the quote is wrong

Doesn't actually matter if he said that or someone else did, the content remains the same, only the context has changed somewhat.

If you were as smart as you think you are you'd have understood that.

I notice you couldn't refute the content of that quote, only the source.

>> No.8394498

>>8394482
>Making social progress is the driving force that people have.

The most skilled people almost never care about "making social progress" but they are motivated by getting good at what they do. On the other hand the ones who suck most are the ones who get most desperate about social standing. So focusing on progress encourages the efforts not of those who can actually do anything but everyone else.

>> No.8394508

>>8393666
New thread topic:
First 2 digits of your post is your IQ unless the third is 1 or 2 then it is the first 3 digits.
Lets get rolling!

>> No.8394512

>>8394508
check 'em

>> No.8394518

>>8394512
test bias, let's take it again

>> No.8394519

>>8394508
+1 for funny post.

>> No.8394522

>>8394518
is it nature or nurture?
or is it my lack of patience

>> No.8394526

This thread is /pol/

>> No.8394540

IQ is the processing power of the brain, think RAM. Not unlike a CPU, it is most efficient in glacial climates where it is less liable to overheat.
This explains the biological trend of Asians who descended further north than europeans exceed europeans on iq tests, and europeans>other caucasoid people>subsaharan africans>abbos.

>> No.8394546

>>8393856
Probably also because you're lazy and don't bother actually learning

>> No.8394560

>>8393669
I don't think you understand what heritability really is. Heritability is about variation in a population. The "spread" you see has a component that genetic. The mean can rise based on environmental factors.

>> No.8394595

>>8394489
Not that guy but the content is beyond retarded. Why the fuck would diamonds be valuable when plentiful? I could go on much farther but fuck that.

>> No.8394615

>>8394390
This. Not to mention the difficulties of making the content of IQ tests relevant and properly translated/localized to obscure African languages and communities.

>> No.8394622
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>>8394615
but literal primates can have their g estimated.

>> No.8394639

>>8394622
>Koko.org
And can you go grab a gorilla out of the jungle and get the same results? Koko is obviously the result of nurture, so your point is moot.

>> No.8394678

>>8394540
>IQ is the processing power of the brain.

Empirically prove this.

>> No.8394689

>>8394678
IQ testing is g-loaded and while taking IQ tests does improve your ability to handle problems in the form of IQ tests and thus your score, it will not budge your g factor, which is the RAM. Read/listen to some Jensen.

>> No.8394693

>>8394639

Exactly. Take a gorilla and give it everything science says will allow it to learn how to reason and communicate from the time that it's born; you get Koko. Take a black person and give him or her everything science says will allow him or her to learn and grow intellectually from birth; you'll get something far different.

It should also be noted that Koko was given an ~~infant~~ IQ test (a test given to infants), not the same IQ test that we use to evaluate mature adult humans. There have been studies showing that chimps consistently score higher than human infants up to 18 months and match development up to 3 years.

>> No.8394695

>>8393678
Because we're obviously the same you racist white cis male bigot. You SERIOUSLY think pigmentation makes us DIFFERENT?

Kek proof that niggers are inferior is great

>> No.8394699

>>8394695

I'm black. I guarantee that I'm superior to you with respect to knowledge and ability in STEM. I also guarantee that I'm superior to you in achievement.

>> No.8394704

>>8394693

I think Koko once scored 95 on the Stanford-Binet. If that's true, the argument that Koko's intelligence is somehow proof of inferiority testifies against OP. I mean, let's be honest--OP isn't as smart as your average white guy. He's probably as smart as Koko.

>> No.8394720

>>8394704
When Koko was shown a mirror and asked what she saw, she signed, "Think see me, Koko, lovely animal."

Gorillas are people too.

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8394721

Why is this bullshit on a science board when IQ along with the rest of psychology is pseudoscience?

Do the mods just not care to clean this shithole up anymore?

>> No.8394723

>>8394720
don't knock that it takes kenyans as much as 6 years to figure that out.
http://www2.psych.ubc.ca/~henrich/pdfs/Journal%20of%20Cross-Cultural%20Psychology-2010-Broesch-%20Cultural%20Variations%20in%20Children's%20Mirror%20Self-Recognition.pdf

>> No.8394726

>>8394721
the fact psychometrics conforms to the scientific method and is not subject to the replicability crisis the rest of the discipline rightfully has.

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>>8393666

Sorry mate, as others have said, you're not allowed to discuss certain scientific topics because you might trigger someone.

>> No.8394758

>>8394726
>psychometrics conforms to the scientific method

Lets stop you right there because you're wrong.

Actual science has 5 prerequisites,

>1. Clear non ambiguous terminology.
Looks like psychometrics already falls flat. Its always used arbitrary definitions that the field itself has literally made up as it went along.


2. What youre testing for must be quantifiable.
An IQ test claims to be able to quantify "intellect". First off if you cant define your terms empirically then what are you quantifying? Second IQ tests are made up completely by humans to test something they themselves made up. Not shitting you the test are just some shit people made up as they went along.

Im not even going to bother going through the rest of the concepts required for something to be science because if you cant meet the first two you have nothing left.

The only thing that vaguely fits a form of science is their reproducability. Sadly what is reproducible from IQ is not exact and is stunted by the near infinite variables in a persons life making all the results meaningless.

Im so tired of you IQ shitters coming to this board mucking it with your retarded circlejerks

fuck off to >>>/his/ or >>>/x/

>> No.8394939

>>8394384
Studies where infants where adopted by identical families disprove this.

>> No.8394944

>>8393666
>>>/pol/

>> No.8394948

>>8393666
genetics.

same reason a gorilla scores badly compared to humans.

no matter how good the environment gets for the gorilla its not going to score any higher.

>> No.8394953

>>8394758
>An IQ test claims to be able to quantify "intellect".
you already fucked up.

it claims to quantify pattern recognition.

go be a retard somewhere else.

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>>8394720
>>8394723

>> No.8394973

>>8393689
Yep, that's why you can't get laid Kek

>> No.8394974

>>8393802
Nice

>> No.8394980

>>8394186
How would you conclusively test one breed of dog is smarter than the other? Comprehensive testing with modern techniques accounting for as many control variables (mostly diet and education) as possible. Until you do that, you're swinging around shitty science and anecdotal evidence, and your posts do not belong on /sci/.

>> No.8394983

>>8394508
Roll

>> No.8394998

>>8394953

Not him but while IQ is used to quantify patterns, those results are also used by a good sum of researchers in the field to measure "g" as it relates to intelligence.

The original creator of the test designed it specifically to measure children's understanding in school settings. And the study of "g" is specifically an attempt to expand on that work through a multitude of battery testing.

The problem is IQ has become too much of a social meme and arguably gone way past it's original goal and boundaries it can measure at this point. The problem becomes two-fold when the majority of people fail to realize that IQ tests have to be recalibrated roughly every decade therefore miss the bigger picture that we really don't know how everyone actually "scale" up to each other both in population and by generation (some research argue our brains gotten smaller but more efficient due to tech/self domestication others say our brains are getting bigger/ more dense neurotypically because better nutrition).

The problem becomes three-fold when the majority also completely miss the point of the term and idea behind "average", treat it as some tangible fixed point and discard "margin of error". The guy who first coined and applied the average in a practical setting treated it more as the "ideal" or "perfect" point in a series of live or recorded measurements. It was never meant to be taken as literal as it is now.

>> No.8395214

>>8394953
Pattern recognition IS claimed to be a type of intellect you FUCKING imbecile.

>> No.8395237

>>8393666

Lack of education, retard.

>> No.8395239

>>8393666
>Honest to God question /sci/, I'm curious as to why African countries score on average of 80-70 on CULTURE FAIR IQ tests?

They're uneducated

Why does IQ go up over time everywhere?

>> No.8395241

>>8393692
Why are there still tards on this board that thinks education system has anything to do with the base IQ of a race, there are poor as rocks chinese kids who have higher base IQs than african adults and these kids usually go to rural poor schools but bad education systems yet they are smarter than blacks.
>>8393688
Sub Saharan Africa doesnt require much thought to survive in thats why a sub saharan species Homo Sapiens is the one one standing because the other continents require alot of thinking to survive and since our cousins Denisova and Neanderthallensis were screwed over by climate we are the ones left because we lived in tropical Africa. So this means humans that continue to live in Africa will never mentally progress but remain at the same state of the original humans, that is the blacks. Their imbecility keeps them alive in Sub Saharan Africa which is what they are built for, civilizaion is a concept made by humans that developed in more thought provoking climates in Asia and Europe and thus is an alien concept of blacks, they have no clue how to restrain or moderate their animal instincts thats why blacks constantly cause crime wherever they exist because they are basically wild animals in human bodies.

>> No.8395283

>>8395241

>there are poor as rocks chinese kids who have higher base IQs than african adults and these kids usually go to rural poor schools but bad education systems yet they are smarter than blacks.

You neglected to mention the part where China has actually had a good amount of their population get selected out due to +1000 years of Imperial Exams which are effectively the equivalent of civil and school testing today.

Or did you forget that the west's testing is partly based on Chinese examinations? Maybe you also forgot that's why their culture along korea and japan's is so serious about testing.

So yeah IQ is affected by education since that can actually reduce you chances of survival if your culture in question utilizes it in such a way.

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8395289

>>8393846
>>8393867
Nice argument.

No trumplets allowed here.>>>/8gag/

>> No.8395293

>>8393666
OP is Satan.

>> No.8395296

>>8393666
People attempting to use IQ for large cultural generalizations should look up the "Flynn effect", and how researchers on the field are hesitant to make such large-scale generalizations.

IQ sucks at measuring ones "true" intelligence, compared to anyone else.
Most people who seriously work with IQ-tests know this.
It is however a decent tool for measuring cognitive performance.

>inb4 cognitive performance == intelligence

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>>8393666
Honest answer: Because IQ tests are a meme and "culture fair" IQ tests are an even bigger meme.
Nice digits though.

>> No.8395467

>>8395283
>You neglected to mention the part where China has actually had a good amount of their population get selected out due to +1000 years of Imperial Exams which are effectively the equivalent of civil and school testing today.

Anon you are seriously stupid if you think every chink is smart.

No numbskull, the african adult IQ is 68 while the chinese adult IQ is 100 meaning the chinese child IQ is in the low 80s meaning even chinese children and teenagers are more intelligent than african adults you idiot.
>So yeah IQ is affected by education
No its not, your IQ determines whether you can be educated in the first place retard, look at all the tards who can into engineering because their brains just arent efficient enough to do all of those calculations effortlessly.

>> No.8395472

>>8395296
Flynn Effect only applies to humans, africans are still paleolithic hollowheads.

>> No.8395476

>>8395472
Slow down there edgelord

>> No.8395477

>>8395472
some of them are human though..right?

>> No.8395481

>>8395476
Its the truth black africans are still as retarded as ever meanwhile imbeciles on /sci/ keep thinking these genetic outliers that show up in colleges are the average african. You have a glimpse into what the average african black behaves like if you have ever lived around alot of american negros before.

>> No.8395486

>>8395481
What do you think capitalism is for? It is so smart people have a way to escape the plebs. Black folks smart enough to achieve a net worth of at least ~$8000000 are cool in my book.

Stop being racist for them, the people who matter.

>> No.8395488

>>8395477
No they are not, I dont care if they can interbreed with us by genetic distance blacks are another species and they behave more like monkeys than people.

>> No.8395489

>>8395481
You must live in a shitty city because ive always had black friends through school and still keep in touch with them. Predjudice really has always confused me personally.

Its easy to see whos sheltered on this site and who actually interacts with people on a daily basis.

Try not living in shitty areas when you get enough money to move out your mothers house and youll learn you can be friends with people of all races.

>> No.8395492

>>8395486
You are the cancer that caused the african savages to be free, you keep looking at these outliers completely ignoring the feral tool using violent wild animals surrounding them and go OH WELL THERE ARE SOME NICE BLACKS SO ITS ALRIGHT. So many humans including blacks have died because of fools like you, fools like you have turned 25 cities in America into hellholes with outlandish crime rates.

Those same good blacks are black they are programmed to view the wild behavior their more plentiful stupid I mean normal black members of their species do as normal so they dont see anything wrong with their ludicrous crime and poverty rates at all, and go YOUR JUST RACIST if you point out any flaw with blacks they are shit.

>> No.8395494

>>8395488
>I dont care what science says ill make my own rules to fit my beliefs!!!!!

>> No.8395499

>>8395489
You ever notice shitty cities always have high black populations? Wonder why its almost like blacks turn everywhere they exist into African ghettos or something crazy huh?
>>8395494
>I REFUSE TO BELIEVE HUMANS COULD EVER BE UNCIVILIZED SAVAGES NATURALLY NO WAY DUDE HUMANS ARE ALWAYS SMART FUCK NATURAL SELECTION IT DOESNT APPLY TO US!!!

>> No.8395500

>>8395492
Blacks dont turn places shitty poverty and drug use do. Stop blithering like a retard for a moment and think critically.

>> No.8395512

>>8395500
>poverty and drug use do
Yes and you ever notice how blacks always have lots of poverty and drug use because its genetic for them, negros have poor impulse regulation so they are genetically prone to becoming future drug addicts, and they cant save money so they will always be poor as rocks.

Every black majority place in America looks like a dump anon I know its hard for you to think natural selection can apply to humans but it does. Blacks are wild animals that is why they turn places into dumps into wilderness.

>> No.8395524

>>8395512
>blames the people for the government's inconsistencies

Look man, no one doubts theres a correlation between mjaority black cities and crime but you're still refusing to look at all the datum surrounding these issues in full and immediately fall to "BLACKS ARE JUST NATURALLY VIOLENT GUYS.

>> No.8395527

>>8395512
What is the use of this "science"?

>> No.8395531

>>8395512
>Every black majority place in America looks like a dump anon
Greenwood District in Tulsa, Oklahoma

>> No.8395534

>>8395531
>was popularly known as America's "Black Wall Street" until the Tulsa race riot of 1921, in which white residents massacred hundreds of black residents and razed the neighborhood within hours.

LOL

>> No.8395539

>>8395467
>adult IQ is 100 so chinese child IQ is 80
That's not how it works

>> No.8395540

>>8395534
Truly ironic right.

>> No.8395542

>>8395534
Gotta be the opposites day. Coz we get the other way around every day.

>> No.8395551

>>8395542
#BLM amirite

>> No.8395581

>>8393688

it's all the niggers

>> No.8395604

>>8395524
Why the fuck arent white areas as bad as black ones even when they are as poor as rocks?
>>8395527
The use is to show people that the negro ape needs to be removed from all human civilizations and placed back into the african wilderness.
>>8395531
Still a dump to a white area of comparable income.

>> No.8395682

>>8394186
>why can't people just fucking accept the IQ gap?
I think the irony is that humans in aggregate aren't intelligent enough to wield that information in a responsible manner. Plebs will just run with the information as validation for racial policies like legalized segregation which, in my opinion, would exacerbate the problem.

I'm black. My IQ is above average. The alleged falsehoods of equality allow me to thrive, because I generally get a fair shot at just about everything. If I were merely seen as a black person, if the general assumption were that I had a low IQ, then I would probably be less successful in life. And those aforementioned issues already exist/persist to a degree, it's just that the narratives that keep them taboo seem to place a limit on their relevance.

I'd hate to be in a position where I can't get a loan even if I had good credit, or couldn't go to a certain restaurant even if I could afford it. It sounds backwards, but I for one am better off with the lie than with the truth.

>> No.8395684

>>8395467

>Anon you are seriously stupid if you think every chink is smart.

Saids the person with poor reading comprehension who confuses "good amount" with "every".

>No numbskull, the african adult IQ is 68 while the chinese adult IQ is 100 meaning the chinese child IQ is in the low 80s meaning even chinese children and teenagers are more intelligent than african adults you idiot.

Once again poor reading comprehension, where in my post did I even try to contest the IQ differences?

>No its not, your IQ determines whether you can be educated in the first place retard, look at all the tards who can into engineering because their brains just arent efficient enough to do all of those calculations effortlessly.

What part of "Imperial Exams selecting out people for a +1000 years" do you not understand? The point of my reply is to indicate that educational/civil testing can have an effect on population IQ averages through a filtering out process via survivoral and reproduction. Thus I can be affected by education.

Also education as a whole is ubiquitous, you don't need to have a certain IQ to receive education. The need for high IQ comes from rigorous testing goals to retain a given "average" standard.

>> No.8395685

>>8395604
>Why the fuck arent white areas as bad as black ones even when they are as poor as rocks?
They are?
I've lived in some shitty white areas

>> No.8395692

>>8395604
>Why the fuck arent white areas as bad as black ones even when they are as poor as rocks?
Well they are shit, they just have a lot less crime.

A lot of areas with poor whites like white Appalachia have a population density that's low as fuck. Black poor people often live in densely populated urban areas. It seems reasonable to postulate that crime levels increase exponentially based on population density. One is probably less likely to rob or assault someone when the nearest person is a mile away, as opposed to the next project apartment over.

I honestly believe if you shoved a ton of poor whites into housing projects you'd see the same kind of hood rat behaviors. A bunch of angry, poor, malnourished, under-educated, disenfranchised people living on top of each other sounds like a recipe for disaster.

>> No.8395700

>>8395682
>Plebs will just run with the information as validation
Unfortunately this. If scientific community accepts the ethnicity gap, in popular opinion it will just become a justification for racial prejudices and hate crimes and the open popular support for openly racist politicians. It will be pretty shit.

>>8395692
>I honestly believe if you shoved a ton of poor whites into housing projects you'd see the same kind of hood rat behaviors

And I honestly believe the opposite. So?

>> No.8395708

>>8395700
>If scientific community accepts the ethnicity gap

psychology has nothing to do with science

psychologists arent scientists.

>> No.8395711

>>8395692
All truth.

>> No.8395739

>>8395700
>So?
I think it's worth more research is all. If you look at crime rates in areas like Naples, Italy, you see that densely populated areas + poverty + gangs can have crime levels similar to that of black ghettos.

>> No.8395749

>>8393666
Please keep /pol/ in /pol/.

Africans were living in huts and hunting food while Europeans were out there building ships and doing physics.

>> No.8395751

>>8393666
Main factors for intelligence are availibility of education, and social vicinity.
As i see it, black people live in cultural societies in which being educated isn't a fashionable thing.
Also, Africa doesn't exactly have enough resources to educate their population...

>> No.8395825

>>8395499
>you ever wonder this group of people who were removed from slavery then went into the world with no vocational skills, assets or property didn't live in the suburbs

>> No.8395941
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8395941

And then there are people like string theorist Sylvester Gates, known for his work in supergravity, supersymmetry, and superstring theory.

Always exceptions.

>> No.8396069

>>8394699
I'm turqoise so all you melanin stained scrubs can fuck off

>> No.8396220

>>8393666
a large part of your iq is health and education. they have neither. a savant could still be born in africa but most of them are caveman tier

>> No.8396291

Black guy here; my IQ is in the low 140s, but I was raised by white people in a working-class white area. I'm certain that the gap is caused by environmental factors.

>> No.8396295

>>8395941

There's also David Blackwell, J. Ernest Wilkins, Jr., and plenty of other black scientists who have contributed to society.

>> No.8396341

>>8393688
Africans.

>> No.8397319

>>8396341
But all human beings came from Africa

>> No.8397346

>>8394595
Not that guy either, but can you refute all the other examples mentioned in that quote?

It sure sounds like African negroes have always been very much in a natural "comfort zone": why develop sails, if a simple canoe is more than enough to catch fish? Why think of going away, if the land where I live is plentiful and satisfies my basic needs? Why thrive for more, if what I have is OK? Why develop tall buildings if I have plenty of land for expanding horizontally?

Necessity is the mother of invention, complacence invites to stagnation.