/sci/ - Science & Math

>>8221452
Trump. With Hilldog you won't have any money left after she spends it on some shitty healthcare plan, gives everyone free college, and uses the rest on dem programs.

With Trump's economic plan, you might actually see government money make it to the universities and NASA, instead of the shit we've had for the last 8 years.

Trump

>>8221458
If there is any money left after building the wall it will go to tax breaks for the rich.
The main budget is largely determined by congress anyway, not by the president.

Which candidate in history ever did care about science and technology ?

government doesn't do "investments"

>>8221458
>listing hillary's biggest expenses
>not putting war as #1

do you live under a rock

>>8221452
>That's the only thing I care about.
Then you shouldn't vote.

neither

>>8221477
I am now a #NeitherMissile

Trump.
Killary will spend tax money on "humanitarian" operations which are just Democrat master plan to have more Muslim into US who would definitely vote for, you guess who, the one who let them get into the country in the first place.
Trump on the other hand ban these bs, also he want a strong military which mean more money into science.

>>8221452
Republicans are known as the 'anti-science' party. Highly disproportionate disbelief in climate change, evolution, big bang, and such already established scientific theories. Oh, who am I kidding. Most of you faggots on here are pretty much the same.

>>8221458
>trump
>guy who believes that vaccines cause autism

neither
one of them will use it for "peace" and a broken healthcare
other one is fucking stupid and believes in stupid shit

>>8221731
>Hillary
>Bonafide certified document of incompetence by the same government she wants to run.

>>8221465
JFK

>>8221763
Glad we can agree that science is doomed for next 4 years.

>>8221452
>believing trump give a shit about something that is not being president
Are you really this deluded? He does not even know how many different kind of Muslims are there, clearly he does not even know what science is like.

he obviously will reduce science founding if he needs money for something else

>>8221458
I find it fucking amazing that you guys think that's a bad thing. Would you care to explain why you think that? Honest question. Im not an American, Dutchfag here.

>>8221458
>Republicans
>Spending money (or even believing in) science and education
>Pray the gay away
>Vaccines cause autism
>Money left over after defense spending, corporate welfare, deporting 11 million people, the manpower required to find and then forcibly remove (at gunpoint) 11 million people and the manpower to patrol 2,000 miles.
>Science party

I think I'm having a stroke

>>8221452
since when does the government put any significant amount of money towards science and tech? this is an area where privatization is king.

NASA is the only real related issue as far as I know, and republicans have a longer history of trying to cut its funding, but neither party seems too excited about the issue this go around.

that said, if you look at smaller issues, you'll see more common patterns of ignorance among self-proclaimed conservatives on issues of vaccinations and medicine in general, climate change, etc., so it's basically indifferent dems vs aggressively ignorant pubs.

>>8221853
>since when does the government put any significant amount of money towards science and tech?
1960s

>>8221452
Neither of them decide that, Congress writes the budget. If you only care about STEM spending then vote downticket and stay out of the presidential election.

>>8221873
No, the government financed technology that had a potential of becoming a weapon. Once the cold war ended, money went away as well.

>>8221452
Trump will invest in thinking.
Therefor Trump. No question about it.

>>8221823
You're only having a stroke because you think there is a meaningful difference between political parties in the US. It'll pass brother, probably when you hit about 35.

>>8221900
therefore*

>>8221901
There is when it comes to science.

Al Gore should get more credit.

>>8221452
Trump has no chance.

>>8221452
Neither. President has fuck all to do with the budget. That's Congress.

If you want more investment in science and technology, pay attention to which senators and congressmen you are electing to the related committees, and what the incumbents there on have been doing.

...and one doesn't build walls nor grant free college through executive orders.

They are both war mongers though, so either way the military will be seeing a boost as it's tasked to do more, and that's where a lot of the tech comes from. When it comes to that though, there's so much shit ready to hit the fan that it doesn't much matter who is sitting in that chair for the next four to eight.

>>8221924
Hillary, and the Clintons in general, have a lot more dirt on them. They're as about as corrupt as they come.

I hope they both tear each other apart in the general election. Gutter trash. All of it.

>>8221936
But Trump is a retard. How do trumpshills justify Trump Uni? Both Clinton and Trump are cancer and deserve to be in jail. The fact that one of them will be a president is absurd.

Gary Johnson is the only non-retarded choice

>>8221941
>LOLbertarianism

*tips fedora*

The government is your friend.

>>8221941

Isn't there some rule that if a 3rd party candidate gets 5% of the votes that they get funding?

I know Gary Johnson isn't gonna get elected, but I fucking hate both Clinton and Trump, and the only way I can have less say is to just not vote.

>>8221946
Yea, if LP gets enough popular vote they will receive federal funding.

If he can somehow get into the debates it will be a kickstart for the third party

Hillary is gonna invest in more military interventions in the middle east and more militarization in the eastern NATO countries. So if you specialize in military science and weapons technology, you might want to vote for her. Downside is the possibility of WW3.

>>8221458
>healthcare
ACA is still all private insurance, they just can't fuck people over as much anymore, unless you are talking about expanding medicare more, Trump states that he wants this too.

>everyone free college
This is a Bernie thing, I think last time I heard her speak she talked about implementing a "debt-free" tuition which as I understand it means you don't pay any tuition beyond what your family is expected to contribute

>dem programs
Yeah probably.

I don't see what Trump will do with education and especially research funding, he barely knows anything of utmost importance let alone science research funding. He also holds very unscientific views which are frankly retarded

Both candidates are awful though.

Who's More Pro-Science, Republicans or Democrats?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7Q8UvJ1wvk

>>8221807
>what's wrong with deficit spending?!

Historically, Republicans invest much more in science. Just not in the stuff that goes against their beliefs, like climate change and stem cells. But the overall investment is bigger.

>>8221853

>>8222140
delet this

we all know republicans are stupid...eh fox news... eh hitler

>>8222140
Source?

>>8222133
welp, I am voting Republican now

>>8221807
The Republicans are majority Christian and anti-science. They want creationism taught in schools, and don't you fucking dare mention the dinosaurs. These people are the result of decades of anti-science, anti-intellectual, agenda.

It's a small but very vocal group of people. These people support Trump because he's going to "make America great again." And don't ask "how?" or you're a nigger cuck Jew.

On OP's question: Neither candidate is a good choice for supporting science research. Hillary will probably allocate more money to it than Trump, but it's not going to be a drastic difference. The Republicans have a long history of cutting all spending (except military) and giving tax breaks to the ultra wealthy.

>>8222177
Every single thing you claimed was already proven wrong just a few replies above you

>>8221901
There is a difference, especially when it comes to science. The Republicans have been trying to cut all government funded research for decades.

But keep your head buried in the sand. Ignorance is obviously the superior position.

>>8222180

Who's More Pro-Science, Republicans or Democrats?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7Q8UvJ1wvk

>>8221941
Gary Johnson is a slightly less retarded choice.

>>8222186
Except he has no chance, may as well stay home

>>8222179
One unsourced jpg doesn't change decades of actual policy decisions.

>>8222194
Republicans spend more in science, factually

>>8222188
>millions of people thought

>>8222203
Nobody likes Libertarianism though

>>8222206

I'm honestly only voting for Gary Johnson in hopes that we break the shitty two party system we have, and because if I don't vote then that just gives more power to other people.

>>8222213
You are politically uneducated

If a third party manages to win a few states, the Republican Congress gets to pick the president, so it's basically voting Republican

>>8222213
>I'm honestly only voting for Gary Johnson in hopes that we break the shitty two party system we have

That's why Bush won, dumb third-party voters

Hillary is going to make compulsory for STEM kids to study courses like ''why white males are evil'', ''feminism 101'' and African studies.

That's her investment in science, probably combined with affirmative action quotas.

Choose wisely.

>>8222216
>>8222218

Trump it is, then.

>>8222231
Clinton is the lesser evil

>>8222216
>>8222218
So the only way to get 3rd party into the system is by NOT voting on the 3rd party?

>>8222231
he said he doesn`t read books

>>8221452
Depend on your definition of science, if it rhymes with feminism, equality, social justice etc... then Hillary.
If it's more about competence, efficiency, international competition, then Trump.

>>8221463
the wall will build itself, it's net cost will be 0$, do you have any idea how many billions we spend in illegals each year ?

>>8221458
Oh look it's another /pol/tard

That orange retard has every motivation to side with wealthy business owners. The same people who will lay off their entire research department of scientists first when things get shitty. Not only that
>vaccines cause autism
>global warming created by Chinese as a hoax
>thinks GMOs are giving people brain diseases (back pedaled on that one)

He's not going to do shit. It seems like he would push nuclear energy, but he talks like he doesn't even know what it is.

>>8222252
There's no way to get a 3rd party

The only way to change politics is reforming either Dems or Reps

>>8221900
L-o-l

>>8222274
this same bait has been posted time and time again, it's gotten stale at this point, just a heads up

>>8222198
Neither does a post

>>8221452
fuck you cuck

donald trump is going to invest 3 trillion dollars in science and we'll all go to mars
im sorry your liberal mind cant handle facts

>>8222335
>Can't into basic reading comprehension
I think you should go back to tumblr

>>8222335
>sjwtards feel the need to make strawman posts of their political opponents.

Donald Trump is not a good person and he definitely is not qualified to be president... but he is going against Hillary Clinton. The only person who is morally worse than Trump and arguably even less qualified.

>>8221823
>I think I'm getting triggered
ftfy

>>8221452
Trump will make space great again. Shillary will make gender studies and basket weaving degrees free.

>>8221807
>Europeans dont understand that everything has a price in maintenance
>we have superior research in the world n sheit
why am I not surprised

>>8221463
>he still believes the wall is a real thing

>>8222177
>this is what /lgbt/ actually believes

>>8221731
>kids vaccinated
>believes vaccines cause autism
pick 1

>>8222488
You never know with Trump.

>>8221465
Hoover, Eisenhower, JFK, and Reagan

>>8221761
>>8222491
Take your pedophile cartoons back to >>>/a/.
Fucking degenerates.

>>8222509
For every Republican that rejects climate change, there is a Democrat that rejects genetics-influenced traits such as intelligence and/or believe GMOs cause cancer.

>>8221517
>Strong military
>More money into science
>Not divesting that money towards NASA

With Hillary at best you get a bit more money in medical science through health care funding.

With Trump maybe MAYBE energy and engineering if any of his policies actually goes through.

Regardless of the candidate cyber security will get more funding.

>>8221823
>Trump
>Republican
Is this the average intelligence of liberals browsing /sci/?

>>8222606
> gets the pubbie nomination
> not a pubbie
You know the GOP didnt always control Lincolns party

>>8222524
Hillary will literally prostitute your regulations and laws to the highest bidder. Trump might be insane but he will prioritize the interests of American people.

>>8221452
Trump is not interested in funding anything other than his rich friends. He openly admits this in his speeches. You will see academic spending fall with Trump. Trump is even anti military, even defense spending will fall.

while Hillary is kind of an asshole, her party is in favor of basic research and academic progress. you will see more STEM spending under her.

>>8222629
can you prove anything you just said ?

>>8222234
>>8222261
>brainlets
lmao

>>8222629
>Trump is not interested in funding anything other than his rich friends. He openly admits this in his speeches
what a blatant lie

>You will see academic spending fall with Trump
???

>even defense spending will fall
>killary shill actually defending going to war

>her party is in favor of basic research and academic progress
>liberal safe-space hugboxes in universities, separating grants and funding by race and gender and prohibiting certain "sensible topics" are "academic progress"

>>8222621
>Trump might be insane but he will prioritize the interests of American people.
topkek

Whatever the result of the elections, Trump sure deserves an Oscar for being able to deceive people like this. The man is gifted.

>>8222646
...said the bern victim

>>8222133
underrated post

>>8222133
kek. Degrasse probably got paid by republicans to make that speech. We all know he's a cuck with the only purpose of being a media monkey with no personality.
Pure theatricals.

>>8222653
I'm not American lad

It's no hiding though that both your candidates are shit-tier. You literally have to pick between a very proficient populist scam artist and a warmongering opportunistic corrupt bitch. I guess I'd be pissed just like you if those were my choices.

>>8222665
> scientist got paid to speak
> what a surprise. topkek
at least he provide some fact and made some valid points based on data, not propaganda.

>>8222646
>mean businessman running against career criminal
>businessman sure deserves an Oscar for being able to deceive people like this

is your left eye ok anon

>>8222679
Hillary isn't deceiving many people though. People realize she's shit and just vote for her because she's not trump.

>>8222684
>implying Hillary doesn't have control over the media that lied for her.

>>8222179
No, this does not refute his argument. He was proven right on creationism. See >humans evolved from other animals

>>8221903
>>8222180

Take a good look at rhetoric versus realty for both parties, and think for yourself versus what your professors tell you, and then tell me honestly that I'm the ignorant one. Oh, and go back more than just the administrations you can remember; you know that a sample size of two isn't big enough to prove anything. Not even trying to be argumentative, just saying that you're believing what they want you to believe.

>>8222313
mass vaccinations which is what doctors ask for DO cause problems

The ideology of global warming is a false hoax designed to ruin our economies

I don't think he said anything on GMO's

Obviously taking twitter posts as the end all be all of his thoughts is completely retarded
Obviously implying he thinks things beyond what he actually said makes you a dishonest liar
Obviously beliving media accusations of him makes you into a typical democrat

>>8222679
I see no contradiction. Just because Hillary is corrupt, doesn't disprove that Trump is good at manipulation. You can refute Trumps claims with facts and he'll still manage to rally the crowd against you.

>>8222180
>The Republicans have been trying to cut all government funded research for decades.

this is what "educated" people actually believe
meanwhile the dems actualy have cut science spending in favor of welfare, and censored everything that contradicts their agenda

>>8222719
All the politicians must be good at influencing. Remember when dirty uncle bernie promised young illiterate libtards free stuff then ran off with all their money ? Now thats a perfect modern political manipulation example.

>>8222498
Maybe he believes his kids are autistic. I pick both.

>>8222727
do you have anything legitimate to say at all ? or do you just spam memes all day ?

>>8222719
it's silly to say a businessman getting support is fooling everyone when right beside him is a career criminal getting hailed as the "inclusive" candidate

it's not a contradiction, and it's not false, it's just fucking ridiculous in context

>it's a democrats vs. republicans debate
>mfw americans are able to generate enough wind to solve the energy crisis over a completely meaningless distinction

>>8222786