/sci/ - Science & Math

*upvote*

>>8188267
*upboat*

*upboat*

>>8188267
I actually agree with the point about university threads. Don't change the name of the board, just allow general education threads

>>8188270
>>8188272
>>8188274
Cancer.

>>8188267
Yeah, it's gotten pretty bad. Any time you try to post an interesting intellectual problem, the kiddies will scream at you that it's homework. Then if you try to post something cool that you've made, e.g. your research, retards will flame you and try to sabotage you somehow as a "joke."

The reason why /sci/ is trash is because the community doesn't know how to do anything besides fling shit at each other, which drives away all the users that post interesting content.

>expecting something from 4chan

it's what makes it nice when you actually find something genuinely intriguing, informative or helpful here.

In the meantime there are funny memes.

What's not to love ?

Kill yourself and your shit rebbit site faggot, if you like it so much go back to being a fucking nigger and GTFO

>>8188267
Actually this board is full of maths and physics grad students. We just prefer to post banter and memes instead of giving lectures to undergrad kiddies like you.

>>8188278
newfag detected

>>8188279
>this board is full of maths and physics grad students
good one kid.

Maybe stop compulsively posting until you have something to contribute

>Just make it the /uni/ - Academics board already. They're the only threads anyone gives a fuck about
No, they are shit because not
>/sci/ - Science & Math
I'd even say cancer (and go to /adv/, just to not be here), but I can mostly ignore them and so they don't bother me THAT much

>>8188282
Wow she's cute!

>>8188276
>Yeah, it's gotten pretty bad
No, it's fine. It has its fair share of the shitposting trio, /r9k/, /pol/ and /x/, but other than that, it's got memes, potentially helpful career threads and actual science and math threads, some of which are on the first page RIGHT now. Not to mention many engineering threads that hit the bump limit. So quit your whining and lurk moar. It's not /his/-level of discourse, but that's because not everyone knows enough/can follow scientific arguments. It is to be expected.

>>8188287
No, there are barely any good threads, ever.

>>8188287
What are you smoking? It's a constant onslaught of flat-earthers, creationists, climate change deniers, spiritualism threads, and gorillaposters. It wasn't always like this.

>>8188267
What you are witnessing is the death of /sci/ at the hands of the newfags. You know that it's irreversible once threads like this start cropping up. The same thing happened to /g/ about a year and a half ago when it was taken over by consumerism.

>>8188292
>flat-earthers
deleted as soon as they appear for the most part

>creationists
same

>climate change deniers
fair point
>spiritualism threads
no

>gorillaposters
meme's been dead for a long time

If you want actual science threads, maybe you should try contributing to them or creating your own. Obviously shitposting threads attract more attention, it's in their nature, but that doesn't erase legitimate threads from existence. protip: use the catalogue

>>8188302
>If you want actual science threads, maybe you should try contributing to them or creating your own.
Except when I do I get flamed and my threads get ignored for the other troll threads.

>>8188287
>>8188302
Just because you deny something doesn't mean it isn't there. Get the fuck out.

>>8188311
>Except when I do I get flamed
elaborate

>get ignored for the other troll threads.
As I said, this is to be expected. Obviously the laymen or people who know nothing about science but visit /sci/ to feel smart will stick to the threads that don't require any specific knowledge to contribute. /his/ discussion is achievable within the range of simple Googling, scientific discussions on /sci/ aren't. There's nothing that this board could do to change that. Blame the mods for not curbing and discouraging shitposting like /his/ does.

>>8188287
/diy/ has better science discourse than /sci/.

>>8188325
literally this

>>8188325
No, it doesn't. If you wanna cherrypick only the shitty threads of /sci/, then so be it, but don't try to convince anyone of that based on actual argumentation. Science includes a lot of theory to understand apart from the experimental parts, if you think that the theory remotely resembles the topics discussed on /diy/, then there's nothing more to discuss because you have gravely misunderstood what science is about. I'm not saying /sci/ is perfect, but I hate this attitude of calling everything shit just because.

P.S. Forgot to mention that one of the reasons many legit science threads/problems aren't on the first page is that most of them are swiftly answered and gradually disappear off /sci/ so you don't get to see them at all. Speaking from experience too.

>>8188336
I'm not sure what science board you're browsing, but it's definitely not the same one we are.

>>8188325
Idk, but I wish /sci/ had more /g/ and /diy/ in it. It would be nice if we had our own personal labs, tools, experiments, projects, etc. to show off.

>>8188367
I dare you to try posting stuff you've done on /sci/. Shitstorms will ensue.

>>8188367
Not him, but scientific equipment accessibility really doesn't compare to what /diy/ or /g/ uses. There are periodically stories about lab experiments and projects, threads about calculators and shit, as well as a few chem experiment threads (the only experiments that you can do and show off from the comfort of your house, like /g/ or /diy/ do). Can't have much more than that I'm afraid.

>>8188381
I don't mind, but I don't have anything to show. Did people show their stuff in the past and it went bad or what?

>>8188387
Something is better than nothing.

>>8188387
thats not true at all. the majority of the people on /sci/ are college students, and even the shittiest community college in the world has a treasure trove of equipment that you are entitled to use.

i have access to a Mikron 5 axis CNC mill and a fucking arc furnace at my CC.

>>8188394
A couple weeks back I posted a thread asking for application ideas of this new global back box optimization algorithm that I've been developing. All I got were a bunch of angry incoherent replies saying that I had just invented a random number generator in python, that my research was trivial, and one particularly retarded kid saying he could do what I've been working on for the last six months with assistance from my professors in 30 minutes.

Not a single application was suggested.

>>8188267
*upboat*

them feels running through your body and head when you realize OP is right about /sci/

>>8188279

>>8188394
not that guy, but i made a thread asking for suggestions for a pump design for a small engine project. i got similar incoherent replies like >>8188406 from dudes who obviously never made it past the wikipedia article on fluid mechanics.

>>8188399
Guy asked for personal lab and experiment showoff. I doubt the average /sci/ undergrad will be willing to take up a project on their own using valuable university equipment, assuming they have the creativity in the first place. Doing things in your house by yourself is much easier and is predominantly what is shown off in /g/ and /diy/ threads.

>>8188406
>one particularly retarded kid saying he could do what I've been working on for the last six months with assistance from my professors in 30 minutes
My brother is exactly like that. A know-it-all. Best to just ignore people like that.

>>8188420
>I doubt the average /sci/ undergrad will be willing to take up a project

my point was that its not the lack of equipment. college students arguably have access to superior equipment than the people on /diy/ or /g/. its the will to bring it to life that /sci/ lacks. which is sad imo, because that valuable university equipment is literally there for YOU. like, thats what your tuition entitles you to.

>>8188325
this, /sci/ has really gone down the hill

>>8188406
>>8188418
Do you understand now that this is a brainlet containment board? There are a few people who actually are interested in study/research. They are a minority.

>>8188418
In my experience, availability of valuable responses depends on whether you get lucky or not. Some days, intelligent and contributing posters lurk and help people. Most days, shitposting underage faggots lurk and fuck threads up. I guess you might have to put the thread up again and hope for the best.

>>8188433
All you say is true. I'd like to add though that doing something innovatory in hard scientific fields is much more difficult than writing up new code or inventing small things with niche uses. So it's technically not all the students' fault.

This is what you get when you create a scientific discussion board with anonymous that doesn't take any effort to enter. You are bound to have stupid shit like this

>>8188451
i long for the day that /sci/ posts more cute pieces of code or niche inventions.

never have i expected innovatory ideas from 4chan.

>>8188336
What board are you even on? It's not /sci/. fuck off retard.

>>8188469
>never have i expected innovatory ideas from 4chan.
Come on m8, 4chan is a meme factory. You can call this place anything you want, but being uncreative is not one of the accusations I would mention. Maybe you just got too used to this place and it doesn't impress you anymore. It gets a bad rap overall, but most of its users are clever for the most part with a tendency to shitpost a lot, which might mask their smarts.

Let's not act like innovating on something that is useful to society is easy either. People dedicate their lives to that kind of shit, you can't expect a fucking anime imageboard of all places to supersede the work of actual working professionals.

>>8188325
lmao fucking this.

>>8188267

The more we complain, the more edgy teens post. Best is to report and report.

>>8188458
maybe get IDs, so at least there's less samefagging?

>>8188483
>most of its users are clever
lmao what are you smoking?

>>8188483
>you can't expect a fucking anime imageboard of all places to supersede the work of actual working professionals.

thats what i meant when i said i don't expect innovation out of 4chan.

>>8188483
>you can't expect a fucking anime imageboard of all places to supersede the work of actual working professionals.

so why isn't this just /uni/ - University board or something? The threads about careers and majors are literally the only ones I've ever seen be taken seriously because most of us are college students or kids about to go to college and it's this big important thing that we're just deleting and not allowing for fucking what reason exactly other than "its da rulz" it's just retarded.

where the fuck do you do science and math? in a university, yet if you even mention college or anything the thread gets deleted while the shitposter and his flat earth thread stays up. makes no sense.

>>8188501
Fair enough, I thought you meant creativity and innovation in general. Bottom line though, that's not an unrealistic lack of expectation.

>>8188511
It's not like ALL the science discussion has to be about innovation. Some people just might want their problems solved, or simple explanation of something. If someone wants to interact with people to understand how a certain chemical reaction works, or how vaccines work or some niche question/problem in another scientific field, wouldn't these constitute actual scientific questions? Doesn't seem like they fall under either the innovation or the university category.

I don't disagree with the sentiment behind what you said though. It IS stupid that university threads are banned, considering all the other shit that's up. Again, take it up with the mods, not the posters.

>>8188527
>Some people just might want their problems solved, or simple explanation of something

which is for /wsr/, not here, according to the fucking sticky itself.

>>8188535
homework is generally forbidden, as in mathematical problems, but the same homework in, say, biology or chemistry is not forbidden because even simple problems are indistinguishable from a research question pertaining to science, to the layman at least. Kind of a weird situation going on. I'd be lying if I said you weren't on to something there though. I think mods meant to discourage simplistic high school exercises from being posted, but many scientific questions could fall under that category.

In other words, chemistry and biology get a free ride on "homework" threads, so the mods don't enforce the rules against them, which kind of helps the situation but then again mathematics and physics get the bad end of that stick, sometimes at least... I don't know what the best course of action is here, to remove the homework part of the sticky or leave things as is. Everything depends on the discretion of the mods right now.

Before we even get on this problem though, maybe we should push the mods to get more aggressive towards the shitposting. That is the most urgent problem right now.

>>8188572

This. Shitposting is a far bigger problem than HW and career threads.

>>8188276
cancer

>>8188277
>>8188483
this is correct

>>8188589
>>>/s4s/

>>8188589
hello samefag

>>8188267
There are a few websites and and organizations dedicated to keeping the quality is all boards on 4chan as low as possible. Since they can't outright DDOS very well they use social engineering to have 4chan eat itself from within.

Some boards have better mods and janitors is all that is the difference. >>>/out/ and >>>/diy/ are usually pretty good quality.

>>8188267

please don't try to end this board by saying "it's garbage! It's fucking garbage and it's all because of X"

That is the death knell, and has been, for any board that's gone to utter shit. If it bothers you, we have a mantra here.

>/sci/ is 90% pop science and shitposting, 10% actual science