/sci/ - Science & Math

>>8110526
>"retard"
retard

When you look into this topic properly, all the evidence points to a flat, motionless Earth. There is zero evidence for the speculated spinning ball that we are told we live on, and mountains of evidence to suggest the Earth is flat. I will be summarizing this in my next thread later on tonight.

Gtfo retard

>>8110526
retard

>>8110526
retard

Anyone?

For those of you who think this is a troll topic, I challenge you to watch those videos. Especially the second one "10 Questions for Neil Degrasse Tyson". There are thousands of flat Earth videos on youtube, and that is one of the best ones with the most solid points.

cant wait to call you retard in the next thread
retard

I don't care if I get 100 replies from edgy children saying the same thing, so long as at least one person sees this thread and thinks it's worth looking into.

retard

>>8110589
you actually think this? if you really do then you're a....... retard

>>8110566
yeah, the second one, completely rational questions. Absolutley no fails that even a child could see.
>how do we breath?

"The ultimate ignorance is rejection of something you know nothing about, yet refuse to investigate".

Until you've looked into it, your opinion is invalid. Like I said, as long as at least one person reads this thread, watches those videos and has a desire to look into it further, then that's all that matters.

Try letting the guy elaborate on what he's saying, instead of having a knee-jerk reaction and making a premature conclusion after just a few seconds of watching the video. Try watching the whole thing. Have some self control. Until you do that, you can't form an opinion on this topic.

>>8110603
except that people have looked into this topic and the majority of people would disagree with it, including renowned/respected scientists

The vast majority of people (at least 95%) hear the words "Flat Earth" and immediately make up their mind. Many respected scientists have looked into it but have been too scared to publish their findings because they can't go against the Newtonian paradigm because it would cost them their careers.

If you've looked into this, then tell me what you know about it and why it makes no sense to you? The only reason it makes no sense to you is because you've been taught otherwise, and you don't have the open mind to accept any other possibilities.

I'm not being rude, but that's about the long and the short of it.

>>8110618
I generally keep an open mind but there are too many questions raised by a flat earth.

>ships on the horizon
>coriolis
>GPS
>planes seeing the curved horizon
>why can't I see Paris from my house?
etc etc

>>8110618
except it wouldn't ruin their career in fact it would make them really famous, science isn't like a religion it's always open up to new ideas. If science is wrong then we must correct it!

>>8110624
Or better yet, Pictures of Earth from fucking space.

If the earth is flat why does it appear to be round from above
How do moon phases work
Why don't we notice that the south pole is not a point on a sphere, but a ring around the flat earth

>>8110526
If the earth was flat you would never be able to watch the sun sink below the horizon during sunset: it would always remain just above the horizon sinxe there's nothing for it to go behind.

Further, the sun is not a "spotlight" either because when it would be hovering over a different part of the flat earth far away it would appear flattened as an ellipse to the angle you're viewing it from.

Additionally, please provide dimensions for the supposed size, orientation, and position of the sun so that we can further debunk you. I want numbers telling me where exactly it is over the earth and where it's pointing in terms of miles.

The earth is not flat.

>>8110638
that too

How do compasses work
How do sun, moon and everything else that can be seen through a telescope work and why are they in the places which can be calculated by using the round planetes model

Why is the red way shorter than the green one in real life?

>>8110624

1. Ships on the horizon disappear simply because they go beyond the vanishing point of perspective. Your eyes can't see that far, in other words. But as soon as you zoom in with a camera, the same ship that has disappeared will come straight back into view. There's tons of footage of this on youtube. The ships do not disappear because of the Earth's curvature, they simply disappear beyond the perspective vanishing point of your eyesight.

2. Why doesn't Coriolis effect airplanes or anything else that leaves the ground? An airplane flying north will not end up north-west if it keeps on the same path. In other words, the spin of the Earth has no effect on planes or anything else for that matter.

3. GPS works the exact same on a flat map. In fact, It doesn't prove the Earth is a globe. Also, if you look at any flight tracker website, you will find that there are no planes flying over the Southern Hemisphere, because on a flat Earth map, the Southern Hemisphere represents the outer edges of the Earth. All the land is near the middle.

4. You cannot see the curvature of Earth outside an airplane. The curvature cannot even be detected at 120,000 feet in a weather balloon, so how is it possible to see it at 37,000 feet altitude on an airplane? Also, why aren't planes flight paths affected by the curvature? Why aren't they constantly flying nose-downwards to stop them constantly gaining altitude, as they would if the Earth had curvature? Just to keep level flight, they would constantly have to fly nose-downwards to stop them flying off into space. But this doesn't happen.

5. Why can you see the Isle of Wight Lighthouse 42 miles away? Why can you see some islands over 80 miles away, when they should be hundreds of feet of curvature? What you can and can't see across the ocean depends on the atmosphere and weather conditions, and has nothing to do with curvature. Again, the videos I posted go into this, and there are many more I can post.

>>8110675
What kinds of crimes are you going to commit as a result of your mental illness?

>>8110682
all of them, by the looks of it

>>8110675
> 1. Ships on the horizon disappear simply because they go beyond the vanishing point of perspective. Your eyes can't see that far, in other words.

How can I see stars then, Or the moon
Are they closer to me than the boat ? It can't be because they're bigger, because I can also see satellites at night and those are smaller than most boats. Unless you're saying those don't exist.

>5. Why can you see the Isle of Wight Lighthouse 42 miles away? Why can you see some islands over 80 miles away, when they should be hundreds of feet of curvature?

You're retarded.

>>8110651

That's just nonsense. You can bring the Sun back into view with a telescope or binoculars even after it has set. Try it yourself.

Why does nobody who believes the Earth is round understand anything about how perspective works? When you look down a long corridor, everything meets at the point of convergence. If you look at the lights on the ceiling of the corridor, they will appear to be going downwards. This is because of perspective. It's the same thing with the setting sun.

Also, in the flat Earth model, the Sun is only a few thousand miles away and is much smaller than the Earth, about the same size as the Moon. We can prove the Sun is close because of things like sunspots on clouds. These wouldn't appear if the Sun was as big as we are told, and 93 million miles away.

>>8110675
>there are no planes flying over the Southern Hemisphere, because on a flat Earth map, the Southern Hemisphere represents the outer edges of the Earth
I don't know what you took when your wrote this bait, but I want some of it

>>8110675
>You cannot see the curvature of Earth outside an airplane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV39QwDY_JQ

>>8110675
You, the one who knows so much.
How does gravity work in the flat earth model?

>>8110686

You can see the stars and Moon because perspective works differently when you are looking at the sky, than it does when you are looking horizontally across land.

Once again, go and watch the videos of ships being brought back into view once they have gone over the supposed "curvature" of the Earth. It's all just perspective. Learn about it and you might have a better understanding of it.

>>8110689
Yes, try to see the sun at midnight.

I fucking dare you.

If the sun was only a few thousand miles away we would die. If it were smaller than earth, it wouldn't be a star or it would be a star so dense we'd die.

Do you not understand how the sun works ? It's a nuclear fusion reactor, it needs to be massive for the reactions to occur.


You're fucking retarded.

>>8110689
So, you actually believe that the sun gets further away from us as night approaches?

>>8110695
Oh, so your "model" used to explain your nonsense conveniently changes when it applies to stuff you can't explain. I get it.

>>8110689
your perspective argument still doesn't address the factor of the sails of the ship appearing before the base does

>>8110689
>You can bring the Sun back into view with a telescope or binoculars even after it has set.

I want you to stare at the sun with a telescope

Do it.

>>8110675
>how does gravity for spheres work

Time zones. Why are there time zones on planet flapjack?

>>8110692
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV39QwDY_JQ

A go-pro fish eye lens doesn't prove curvature, sorry. Those lenses make everything appear curved. Try a normal camera, like this one:

See? No curve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg

>your perspective argument still doesn't address the factor of the sails of the ship appearing before the base does

Yes, it does. That's how your eyesight works. The top will appear first, then the rest.

Here's a ship coming back into view after it has gone over the horizon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYfB0B16VQA

>>8110716
The video you posted is using a fish-eyed lens too you retard.

>>8110716
>FLAT EARTH ADDICT 05
Nice independent video.

>>8110719
>That's how your eyesight works.

Please tell me how you believe eyes work. I genuinely want to know how eyes work in your world.

>>8110711
The sails of the ship are closer to the viewer than the rest of the ship.

Why does the sun move faster at dawn and sunset than at 12 AM

For everyone who doesn't understand perspective, here is a video of a ship that has disappeared over the horizon, coming back into view when it is zoomed in with a camera:
Water is always level. It cannot curve. Basic physics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Gl28xuvnI

>>8110733
>>8110715

/r/ answers.

>>8110728
lol

>>8110733
>Water cannot curve

But that's wrong you retard.

Perspective explained. This is really simple stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63bK7AnWNWw

If you're ignorant about how your eyesight works, don't get angry and lash out. Take the time to learn about perspective

>>8110695
trolling is a art

>But that's wrong you retard.

No, I'm afraid it's quite correct. There are no examples in nature of curved, convex water. Water cannot curve, it is always level when unobstructed. Water is flat.

As for the person who asked about time zones, well the Sun is moving around the Earth in a circle. The whole Earth is not lit up, because the Sun is not bigger than the Earth, nor is it 93 million miles away.

>>8110733
>Water is always level. It cannot curve. Basic physics.

why are you even on /sci/ at all

> Flat earth thread
> going on for hours
> people are desperately trying to prove the flatcuck wrong
> people are actually taking him seriously
> same thing going on in reddit
> same thing going on even in scientific forums

So is this the new world now ? Is this what it came to ?

Also, there's really no need to get angry and start lashing out. I understand you've been conditioned since you first went into a classroom and saw the globe, to have this reaction... but it doesn't do your arguments any favors, and only proves my point.

>>8110754
>There are no examples in nature of curved, convex water
raindrops lol

>>8110759
But he's so polite, like a jehova's witness knocking at my skull.

>>8110689
It would still be broad daylight at night if the earth was flat.

>>8110756

>why are you even on /sci/ at all

Please give an example of curved water that has existed anywhere in nature... ever?

Water doesn't curve. Convex water is not a thing. I'm sorry, but it just isn't.

>>8110747
Problem is people taking the bait.
People like these are either
1: trolls of the highest order. or
2: so far gone that any attempt at reason will be brushed away as "lies", "just your opinion" or the good old "jewish lizard conspiracy".
Either way, anyone answering these insanely stupid treads will only get frustrated.

>>8110769

>>8110744
You keep posting the same shit and posting videos that are clearly biased toward your ideology. Yet it's clear for everyone here that it's you who doesn't understand perspective. Especially when it comes to curved objects. Or even flat objects for that matter.

You said that perspective somehow changes when you look at the sky. Why ? Why is your model of perspective dependent on where you look. If you were at the same level as a star, therefore looking at it horizontally, why does it still appear to be much, much farther than you posit ?

You said you'll see the top of and object before you see the bottom when it's on a flat plane. Why ? If you're level with the center of an object, on a flat plane, you can be at literally any distance and you'll see both the bottom and the top, this is not the case with the videos you keep posting.

How do you explain moon phases, time zones, compasses, satellites, Coriolis effect, fucking weather how do you explain I can't see the Everest from my house, it's the highest point on earth, then how come you can only see it from relatively close ? How do you explain the countless pictures of the earth from far away ? How do you explain the international space station ?

Are you saying that all this is just a giant conspiracy designed to obfuscate the truth ? If so, to what end ? What do those conspirators hope to gain from this ? Control ? How do they gain control ? Over what ? Money ? Why would they be making more money by hiding the truth while they could be making just as much by hiding a truth when the falsehood they created has mountains of evidence supporting it, that you can lookup yourself ?

Those are the reasons people are calling you retarded, they aren't angry, they're appalled that someone like you exist, that a lot of people like you exist and that they have to live on the same planet as you and your group of morons.

>>8110526
I refer you to the reply I gave to the other retard >>8109867

>Can a mod pls kill the FE threads so we have no more than one at a time?

>>8110769

>>8110754

>>8110759
If I wanted to talk to intelligent people about legitimate topics then I'd be reading a paper in a journal, not reading 4chan.

>>8110780
Do the articles talk back, Anon?

>>8110766
IS
THIS
WHAT
IT
CAME
TO

>>8110782
No, but since I can't afford to go back to college I have to settle with 1-way communication.

>>8110716
>See? No curve
It does have curve though you retard. You can literally see the curve in that video

>>8110780
Tbf, sometimes there are decent discussions here. A bit like finding a golden nugget in a pile of cow shit.

What's with the sudden resurgence of FE recently? Just the new FOTM conspiracy or what?