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Should psychology be considered a science? If not, why? If so, kill yourself? It's literally just a bunch of shit we don't need to know that creates even more hypochondriacs, right?

>> No.8048527
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8048527

>>8048511
heh, its pretty funny, psychology if you know how to use it can help you run the world.
Check this guy out:
Edward Bernays: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

>> No.8048570

>>8048511
>hurr
>studying human behavior is dumb
>understanding society and the mind is useless
>it's not like we're humans or something
All muh keks

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>>8048527
>he was a Jew
Why does this world hold no surprises for me anymore....

>> No.8049047

>>8048527
He was successful because he was born rich in an influential family, people have used religion and all manner of other bullshit for the same means, but the rules of propaganda have changed dramatically since Bernays.

>> No.8049050

>>8048570
>hurr
>studying human sin is dumb
>understanding the holy spirit and the soul is useless
>it's not like we're humans or something
All muh keks

>> No.8049064

not a meme. like anything else if you aren't a genius you shouldn't waste your time and esp. our money studying it in college.

>> No.8049075

>>8048511
>that creates even more hypochondriacs, right?
Right, which is where positive psychology comes in. Please note that psychiatry is a politic issue; it doesn't keep up-to-date with psychology. You as a mind capable of comprehending this issue are the only type of mind that can meaningfully affect the practice of psychiatry in <whatever country you're from>.

>> No.8049129

>>8049050
bad analogy

>> No.8049133

>>8049129
Until you try to look into the definition of psyche and the first thing it mentions is the soul.

>> No.8049140

>>8048511
>we don't need to know
What do you mean by "we", Peasant?

>> No.8049143

>>8049133
>psyche
psyche /ˈsaJki/ is the totality of the human mind, conscious and unconscious.

Quit using common definitions when they do not apply to the topic of discussion. kthx

>> No.8049144

>>8049133
yeah that's where the word comes from, it doesn't mean that psychologists believe that they're studying the soul

>> No.8049152

>>8049144
Most sciences believe they are studying the thing they have named themselves to study, instead of pulling a bait and switch on the poorly educated.

Can you name a single legitimate science that doesn't even believe in what it is named after and just chases the results of other sciences?

>> No.8049155

>>8049143
I guess I didn't realize the definition of psychology didn't apply to the topic of psychology.

>> No.8049159

>>8049152
Can you name a science that has come to light in the last century, faggot? And more accurately one that demands public interface with commonly accessible and understandable terms?

>> No.8049162

>>8049155
>I had to google the definition of psyche to come to the conclusion that an incomplete definition which is not the accepted definition for a given field is the accepted field because well frankly I don't understand language or the fact there are varying and even field specific definitions for common words.
Good bait, man.

>> No.8049164

>>8049159
Neurology.

>> No.8049167 [DELETED] 

>>8049162
>Things are universally accurate, truthful, and scientific as long as they are accepted by a group that claims authority and will do whatever it takes to control you and infiltrate the highest levels of your government even if their own name makes fuck all sense.

>> No.8049171

>>8049162
>Things are universally accurate, truthful, and scientific as long as they are accepted by a group that claims authority and will do whatever it takes to control you and infiltrate the highest levels of your government even if their history and name makes fuck all sense in modern context.

>> No.8049172

>>8049164
Nope, think again. "dendrites, neurotransmitters, synapses, selective channels, protein folding" That's not language for the public nor the patient.

>> No.8049176

>>8049152
> chemistry
> the study of how to make gold

> physics
> the study of medicine that purges

> calculus
> how to count on an abacus

One more reason biology is the best science

>> No.8049178

>>8049172
Neither is psychological language, things like autism are just easier to explain with external common language because they are vague and poorly defined with no direct physical basis to begin with.

>> No.8049183

>>8049171
>I'm a bad troll and I opt to out myself here on the basis that I have been out-trolled by the master.

>> No.8049188

>>8049178
Psychology is the study of outward behavior initialized in the complex neural network of the brain. It does not necessarily need a physical basis. Psychological vocabulary can be understood by anyone with a high-school reading comprehension, whereas in neurological texts you need quite a bit of training in biology and chemistry to grasp the finer nuances.

>> No.8049190

>>8049183
At least you finally admit you only pretend psychology is a science to troll and even its subfields don't use the same definitions or draw the same conclusions, so with that you have reached an impasse and gone as far as your trolling can bring you.

>> No.8049194

>>8049190
A) You don't understand greentext
B) Tinfoil hats belong in >>/pol/

>> No.8049212

>>8049194
Maybe I am confused, does your greentext indicate you to be the bad troll or the master troll?

I thought you were claiming to be the master, but I understand why you would recognize that you are a failing bad troll (I assumed you were insulting me though) either way though you admitted you are a troll because you can only speculated on my sincerity while you know for a fact your own status to be trollish.

>> No.8049218

>>8049194
white ppl amirite guis ?

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>> No.8049234

>>8049188
I like that you admit that psychology can't keep up with neurology, biology, or chemistry, but you still fail to see that those other sciences are only more complex because they develop their own metrics and jargon through physical explanations rather than using vague common highschool level semantics to create a series of overlapping spectrum to catch all known qualities.

>> No.8049764

>>8049234
You seem to have a narrow view of psychological research. There are many computational and conceptual models of psychological phenomena that are not "high school" level semantics, whatever that means. Regardless, why make something needlessly complex so only PhDs can understand? Especially as it pertains to the brain and behavior, which everyone has and should try to understand for their own sake.

>> No.8049803

>>8048511
>makes a deliberately provocative thread
>small dicked wannabe psych major who thinks he's much smarter than he is