/sci/ - Science & Math

DNA means nothing

>>7996011
Physiology. If you want to devolve into Greys be my guest.

>>7996016
So nothing neurological at all? That's comforting.

makes us infertile

>>7996011
Red hair?

>>7996025
>nothing neurological
Physiology plays a role in neurology. We aren't just flesh coated brains, we were flesh long before we were brains.

>>7996025

Neanderthals were more social pack hunters.

Ancient humans are more loner, tool-builders, basically small and autistic.

So in other words

>popular football jock = neanderthal

>dweeby manlet valedictorian = human

Also Europeans and red-heads have a lot of Neanderthal DNA in them compared to other modern humans. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

>>7996057
>Europeans and red-heads have a lot of Neanderthal DNA in them compared to other modern humans
Neat. How does Japan measure up?

Genes don't matter. It is purely epigenetics, free will, and social constructs.

So absolutely nothing.

>>7996117
Gad I lel'd.

>>7996057
>redhead
>nothing to be ashamed of
Wew, lad.

>>7996060
Mongol DNA

>>7996011
Mammoth harpooning. Ask your mom.

>>7996117
Can I use my epigenetic powers to become a highly intelligent t-rex? I'd love to be able to hunt abos on weekends.

>>7996060
Asian have less or no neanderthal, but some amount of denisovan

It makes us smarter

Riddle me this /sci/.

If humans can breed with neanderthals then why are they considered a different species? Obviously they are a race, that or non-whites are literally no longer human.

>>7996208
Unless you're trolling, neanderthals were also of the homo genus.

>>7996057

Don't listen to this anon, it was literally the opposite.

Why do you think the Neandertals are gone now? It's because we out competed and out breed them to fucking extinction.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4275882/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2600607/

Also the jury is still out on what Neandertal dna has contributed.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4707776/

The only consistent inferred information from science articles and research papers is that hair growth to aid in colder regions and the MC1R gene for coded red hair with possible expression for light skin (it needs to be said many articles argue that while easier to gain such trait from interbreeding, ancient humans were already gaining light skin through sexual selection) have been identified as neandertal origin.

>>7996237
No, neanderthals were more physical powerful than sapiens but less creative, the other anons analogy is reasonable. Its survival of the fittest, not survival of whoever can lit the heaviest rock

>>7996241

Anons analogy is reasonable in describing physical characteristics but unreasonable in describing behavior.

Neandertals were clearly not more "social pack hunters" than ancient humans.

And ancient humans were not autistic loners, far from it in fact considering it was ancient humans that initiated large migrations throughout Eurasia.

Both Neandertal and Ancient Humans were tool builders but there is still a debate on which population was more "creative", the assumption is we are since we survived. But our survival is because of higher social nature.

>>7996011
I wish be born as Neanderthal descendant like Nikola Valuev, but my fate was another.

>>7996241
>No, neanderthals were more physical powerful than sapiens but less creative,
By bones in graves very hard judge about creativity and physical power.
Also, in modern world of guns physical power less important.

>>7996237
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ozzy-osbourne-genome/

>>7996241

If that was the case africa wouldnt have such a large population.

>>7996215
But if they were gay how do we have their DNA

>>7996269
Some of them was triple-sexual and had sex with your grand grand mother and his horse.

>>7996248
Its exaggerated for sure, but the basic concept is fair, neanderthals are the robust to sapiens gracile

>>7996256
It can be inferred from their skeleton that they were stocky and powerful, while sapiens are a less so. Their level of creativity can be inferred from the fact tha twhile the possesed various tools, the designs of those tools remained virtually unchanged for very long periods of time, during the same period sapiens tools underwent a great deal of change and refinement. There were no guns when humans displaced neanderthals

>>7996266
Having a large population by definition makes you fit

>>7996278

Nobody thinks Africans are masters of creativity.

>>7996278
>There were no guns when humans displaced neanderthals
Arrows, darts, spears were too effective against pure physical power.
Even in XV century a chimpanzee with power of five man little dangerous for a typical African man with melee skill and a weapon.

>>7996282
They have roughly the same capacity for it as anyone else.
But more importantly, creativity is not a determiner of fitness in the current environment

>>7996289
True, which is probably why we won. Although you seem to have confused sapiens displacing neanderthal with sapiens wiping neanderthal out

>>7996282
Copying skill more important than creativity.

>>7996290
>They have roughly the same capacity for it as anyone else.
Only some of them. Africans live under hot Sun, with out proper hats their heads got overheating and work worse.

>>7996301
I have no opinion on whether that is true, or whether you are serious

>>7996241
>less creative
UH NOT ACCORDING TO THIS DOCUMENTARY I SAW ON NATGEO

>>7996277
Makes sense, always heard she was a whore 2bh

>>7996057

Neanderthal were smarter than our ancestors, you little brainlet.

And you can be smart and good at sports at the same time.

>>7996057
>popular football jock = neanderthal

>dweeby manlet valedictorian = human
if that were even somewhat true we would be seeing much of the advancement coming out of africa and india

africa contains no neanderthal dna while india contains little to none

it's pretty obvious that neanderthals were the ones that were more creative

>>7996237

neanderthals breed themselves to extinction by race mixing with africans not being out competed

we can trace the lineage of sex dna heritage and in every case it's neanderthal male that past on their genes

>>7996057

It's literally the opposite. Neaderthal was the ugly manlet nerd who was actually more intelligent than Jock Sapiens but we just outbred them by getting more pussy because we were better at sports like running or spear throwing.

>>7996865
not just better at sports but the neanderthals were the ones with the caves and mammoths skin houses

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-neanderthalensis

>their brains were just as large as ours and often larger

>>7996011
It's essentially what separates us from niggers

>>7996908
https://youtu.be/IRsPheErBj8

>he fell for the "neanderthals were dumber than humans" meme

>>7996852

>neanderthals breed themselves to extinction by race mixing with africans not being out competed

Except every scientific article and research paper states they were out breed and out competed. Ancient humans came to their habitat, had higher growth rates and consumed more resources.

Yes, they intermixed but not to extinction, the extinction came when they couldn't compete in terms of resources and growth rates.

>>7996965
>Ancient humans came to their habitat, had higher growth rates and consumed more resources.

sounds like nigger alright

but the point still stands that it was only the female dna part of ancient humans that remained in modern humans from europe

that means that the male neanderthals were not necessarily out competed, but rather were better than ancient humans to their own detriment

>>7996046
red hair has appeared a number of times

>>7996282
apart from jazz fans right

weather proofing, cold survival

>>7996011
Proves that whites aren't actually human

>>7996011
>implying

http://stats.areppim.com/stats/stats_fieldsxcapita.htm

>>7996011
Contact the Orion Labs that did all humanoid prototypes. Ask for model 3 (a.k.a. Neanderthal man) and model 4 types c and d (that's us).

>>7996208
there are many examples of fertile cross specie genetic hybrids

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genetic_hybrids

the common definition of species is provably wrong

>>7996290
>They have roughly the same capacity for it as anyone else.
proof?

>>7997117
true, Whites are superhuman

>>7996150
hey thats mean im a red head, ill burn u to death

>>7998803
There is no proof so the case is inconclusive.
:^)

>>7996011
Depression and nicotine addiction.

>>7996060
about 2 inches

>>7996011
RNA

>>7999981
good answer

>>7996965
>Except every scientific article and research paper states they were out breed and out competed. Ancient humans came to their habitat, had higher growth rates and consumed more resources.
That sounds a lot like what's happening in Europe right now. Just because 100 years from now, every child born in Europe will be mostly non-European, do you think that it would be fair to say that Muslims and Africans were smarter and stronger than the native Europeans?

>>7998945