/sci/ - Science & Math

>>7765488
OP here, I just made sodium carbonate by heating sodium bicarbonate. Now the reactants are

charcoal
cyanuric acid
sodium carbonate

How do I synthesize NaCN from these?

>>7765499
Lol youre better off making HCN from Potassium Ferrocyanite and Phosphoric Acid. Then treat the HCN with NaOH and you get NaCN and H2O.

3K4[Fe(CN)6] + 6H3PO4 -> 18HCN + 4K3PO4 + Fe3(PO4)2
HCN + NaOH -> NaCN + H2O

>>7765516
Will this be effective to get CN in powder form? You're suggesting:


-mix ferrocyanide and phosphoric acid, burn them (I assume at 300 Celsius for 20 minutes or so) to create HCN

-Then "treat" the HCN with NaOH and you get NaCN and H2O.


Is that correct? Your instructions are vague but I think It's simple and I appreciate it. I just don't know what "treat" means to you (burn them or just mix them?) since I'm not experienced in chemistry.

How long do I burn them for a chemical reaction?

And does it matter how exact the measurements are in milligrams?

>>7765516
I also realized HCN is gaseous, I don't know how to handle that so It's dangerous. I just want it in powder or liquid form.

what do you want cyanide for

>>7765751
To die my man

If
cyanuric acid + sodium carbonate = sodium cyanate

Then sodium cyanate + charcoal = NaCN

Correct?

>>7765744
HCl is also gaseous in its pure form, but it's also soluble in water. Just remember that the hotter the solution gets, the less likely a gas is to be found dissolved in it. Keep it cool.

>>7765757
why

>>7766131
Well I can't do it anymore. I've become a scientist against my will, and I have to earn money and stuff, I'm forced to feel things and desire sex, I wake up and I think "wow all this stuff happens just cause I stopped sleeping"... I also cling to beliefs, I want there to be something when i die but also i'm okay if my brain dies and that's that. but I'll take hell for a few years if it means I can go to heaven.

Basically, I think life is bad for me, If I fail to make cyanide poison then I'll do any painful method. I know this sounds edgy but I find it hard to explain myself, I don't function in the world as well as others and psychologists always suspected I was autistic

>>7766126
Thanks for this valuable info, I really appreciate it and will keep the Bunsen burner on "blue" but not "roaring blue" flame level.

However, I found a different way - I bought some Sodium Cyanate and apparently mixing that with charcoal and burning it will create NaCN so that will be 1 less step I could mess up.

Also GREAT is that charcoal is not very toxic, so if I mess up and don't chemically alter all the charcoal/cyanate into cyanide, i'll still be killed by cyanide and maybe just minor burns from swallowing charcoal - it'll last like 10-60 seconds only.

>>7766327
Isn't cyanide a painful death? Just buy a gun

>>7766424
idk but it's quick. under a minute, so pain isn't very demotivating. and i think you go unconscious soon so you feel nothing. the best suicide is a properly placed gun or barbiturates though.

>>7766327
>I've become a scientist against my will
What, did someone hold a gun to your head and say, "YOU WILL DO SCIENCE, OR ELSE!"?