/sci/ - Science & Math

>>7603245

Ai-chan is love, Ai-chan is life.

If we all believe in Ai-chan we can all have alien waifus this time next year.

continue /x/ threads on >>>/x/

>>7603374
astronomy is not paranormal and winter ball content is pan-4chan fair game.

The Allen Telescope Array has begun observing Ai-chan:

http://www.space.com/30855-alien-life-search-kepler-megastructure.html

"We are looking at it with the Allen Telescope Array," said Seth Shostak, a senior astronomer at the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Institute in Mountain View, California. "

>>7603374
ayy lmao

>>7603245
keep your shit ass meme on >>>/x/ faggot. fuck u

>>7603431
Thanks for the bump.

Observation status and info from the Allen TA can be found here:

http://setiquest.info/

fuckem

>>7603245
WE

KNOW

ALREADY

>>7603394
>>7603455
Ai-chan's first observation at the Allen array confirmed last night!

Tonight's observations will begin at 8pm Pacific (3am UTC, 11pm Eastern USA).

pic related, Ai-chan's first radio observation and first observation since Tabby's paper.

>>7603487

How long until we get results?

Allen's status data lists Ai-chan as a "special" observation last night, but it also lists one other "special."

The star HD 224251 was the other special.

She lives at RA: 23.9383, Dec: 4.6265, nearby to the Horsehead nebula. pic related

>>7603534

Looks like an angel outstretching its wings if you look closely enough.

>>7603489
They were listening in real time last night, so I presume that if they had heard the ay lmao version of Major Tom they would have called a press conference.

Here's an SDSS catalog image of the other special from last night, about which there is absolutely zero other mention or information other than technical catalog specs.


http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=%401403113&Name=HD%20224251&submit=submit

>>7603489
The observation frequency covered progress message is at 2.2% complete for Ai-chan and is just a placeholder. pic related

So it might take 47 more nights to listen to her whole frequency range.

>>7603245
HO
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HO
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HO
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http://www.planethunters.org/#/classify

reminder to sign up for this and help aichan find friends

I wish there was a way to set up a group like with seti@home

>>7603833
Super. Nice use of all the inputs. Is love is life.

[saved]

>>7603833
literally any other pallete looks better

>>7603868
This atlas of variables has been helpful:

http://ogle.astrouw.edu.pl/atlas/delta_Sct.html

>>7603874
Her cape color is based on far-infrared or submillimeter frequency not measured by Kepler of the occluder.

>>7603833
right?

>>7603881
far-infrared is the opposite of red nigger

>>7603876
eclipsing binaries are my star system waifu

they look so fucking special man

reminder that
>hubble space telescope was launched in 1990
>NASA fucks up and it doesn't work until 1993 when astronauts have to go fix the mirror
>second repairing mission in 1997 breaks something and drastically lowers its functional life
>collumbia disaster means they cancel any future repairing missions after the third
>breaks in 2004 for no fucking reason
>completely shuts down in 2007

Jesus, how the fuck can you fail this hard?

>>7603883
Look - it's the 450,000,000 guy back for more.

>>7603874
>>7603881
>>7603883

I dun goofed.

So... under the veil, ayylmao eyes?

>>7603930
I think we should base the reveal on what is actually found. If they find that the flux is periodic and that it is slightly deeper and longer in duration (suggesting that something is getting slightly larger every two years in stable orbit) then yeah. Aichan eyes.

Comet eyes if it turns out to be comets?

>>7603912
no thats me. but the funny thing is I used the same 450000000 figure in the two previous threads and people just went with it. Because they're not interested in reading or research or fact finding, they're just here to argue and post ayylmao memes

>>7603899
It's working today though

>However, after spirited public discussion, NASA administrator Mike Griffin approved one final servicing mission, completed in 2009. The telescope is still operating as of 2015, and may last until 2030–2040.


Can't wait for the successors to it along with the ultra sized land telescopes to start coming online.

> Check the thread
> Acually get excited
> Read what they're talking about
> Completely different spikes
> Retards still insisting its ayylmao Dysons
Now I know why this is an /x/ thread.

get your shit together kepler

>>7603952
they're not that different, they're just irregular

>>7603937
>Comet eyes
Fascinating.

I wonder if Ai-chan feels unconfortable for being peeked by Kepler-san.
This is space voyeurism.

>>7603957
They're not the same, which is the only factor you depend on calling it a pattern. the second spiking is completely different from the first.
Also the spikes are way too small for it to be a dyson sphere. It's most likely some asteroid blocked the light for a short period.

Don't dyson spheres sound a little bit inefficient for a race capable of constructing one? And imagine the sheer scale of industry and number of alien craft it would take to make one, let alone be a benefit to? That kind of society would be shooting out signals in all directions.

>>7603970
>Also the spikes are way too small for it to be a dyson sphere
nobody's claiming a full dyson sphere, people are claiming dyson swarm

>>7603970

wow, it's almost like you're the first person to ever think of that. better call up the scientists who published these findings and tell them about your immense breakthrough in their study. i'm sure your knowledge will be welcome and beneficial.

>>7603970
also you dumbass, an asteroid that occludes 20% of a star's light is called a star
literally can't get that big without starting fusing hydrogen at your core

>>7603976
>Don't dyson spheres sound a little bit inefficient for a race capable of constructing one?
No. The most efficient way of creating energy is nuclear fusion. So harnessing an already existing source of it is the most efficient way, long-term.

>>7603976
Also we've never aimed radiotelescopes at it, people are doing it right now.

>>7603899
What's the function of the foil wrapping?

>>7603999
I'm no astroengineer, but I think it protects the instruments from radiation and interference

>>7603984
even then, the spikes are way too narrow. it just looks like a pole rather than huge panels that absorb the stars power

>>7603982
> butthurt /x/tard sperging as always
scientists don't claim its ayylmaos retardo. Only a few nutjobs suggested dyson cucks, and not the rest of the world.

>>7603985
> I don't know how distance works.
Oh wow, by that logic since moon can cover the entire sun on eclipses THAT MEANS THE MOON IS A STAR :O
This is as far as an /x/tards logic goes.

>>7603968
THE STAR STARE RAPE HAS TO STOP.

sersly tho she's a big girl, she can take it.

>>7604005
>> butthurt /x/tard sperging as always
I literally just said "people are claiming X", what the fuck are you talking about you sperglord? Jason Wright is a professor at Penn State University and he said it first, btw, not nutjobs.

Also, we know it's near the star since it didn't affect other light sources in other possible trajectories, and it passed twice. I know what you're going to say "the two big spikes aren't exactly the same", they're big enough to be the same object.

>>7603985
Actually, Tabby's paper lays out a scenario in which a supermega exocomet can have a forward tail which fans out to be so ginormously huge that it forms a veil over the face of the star, producing the light curve as shown.

Then she quickly rules that out with the comet swarm hypothesis instead.

>>7603968
I request fanart of kepler looking up Ai-chan's skirt while she attempts to cover herself

>>7604018
You know, that kind of sounds like a macrospaceship's engine

>>7604007
>she's a big girl
4U

>>7604007
>The telescopic gaze

>>7603957
This gyrating little spinner hottie right here.

>>7604014
> completely different spikes with much different lengths
> somehow the same object with the same orientation
Also the space is vast. How do you expect something crossing between to effect anything if there is nothing for the light to bounce back ?
You're just grasping at straws. Keep reading ufoholic and fuck off from /sci/

>>7604021
winter ball is coming, anon. I seriously literally cannot believe that /sci/ has never gone. I bet graphic design would say yes in a heart beat. It is clear that /sci/ is male, yes? Does /sci/ even have a board tan?

>>7604028
>"Detecting"
>"Sensing"
>"Probing"

THE MICROAGRESSION MUST STOP.

>>7603245
We're not going to your stupid ball - fuck off.

There's science to be done.

>>7603245
What the fuck is wrong with you people

FAST in China is getting online next year.

Will we finally be able to listen to the ayylmaos?

>>7604041
I'm offended even by the possibility that this could offend me. Ban Kepler.

>>7604033
"Comets are an appealing scenario to invoke because they would be faint in the infrared, and because they move on elliptical orbits, accounting for the random timing of the transits and their different lengths. Such a group of comets could have come from the breakup of a larger object, leaving a cloud of smaller remnants in similar orbits behind."

>>7604047
That sounds awesome, but I think that any ayyliens using radio to communicate would use pretty fucking strong waves in the first place

That's the stuff right there.

>>7604036
>>7604043
/sci/ should show up to winterball with that death ray its been working on and burn the place down


or... I dunno... is /an/ already going with anybody? Animals are nice... I guess.

>>7604021
>fanart of Kepler looking up Ai-chan's skirt

l...lewd.

Will deliver on thursday.

>>7604058
>diagonal dots close together

anon I'm so sorry, but that's an eclipsing binary

>>7604061
All I see for sure is that /mlp/ is going with /d/, and /g/ is going with /r9k/, /mu/ may be going with /out/, it appears that /pol/ is going with /jp/, which is almost as hilarious as mlp and /d/.

That's all I got. /an/ will almost certainly go with /k/ if /sci/ doesn't get on the ball.

>>7604107
I thought /pol/ was going with /c/?

Should just marry /x/ and be done with it.

>>7604071

>>7604115
All I know is all the art on pol's qa thread is with /jp/. Maybe that was from last year? But why would they have it in this year's thread?

>>7603992
Yes but how to you make one without an energy source comparable.

>>7604136
no idea what you're trying to say

>>7603833
Where the star at nigga

>>7604226
She is the star plus the occluder. Her hair and coat are full of stars. Get with the program, fng. Where's the 4chan culture on this board full of reddit fng interloping dilettantes?

>>7603245
>Ufoholic

>>7604294
Read the thread, fng. We commandeered that thread because it was there and duplicates are frowned upon,

>>7604318
>ufoholic.com
>>>/x/

>>7604340
3 bump limit threads and this one later, and somehow Aichan is still here. Who's the interloper, fng?

>Jumping up and down to prove /sci/ is the short-bussingest board of them all. What is a potato eating French fries, Alex?

Allen Array observation of Aichan begins in two hours, ten minutes.

>>7604431
> Allen Array observation of Aichan begins in two hours, ten minutes.
Wait what ? Is that the dish thats gonna start checking for signals from KIC ?

Also, OC

>>7604443
pretty

>>7604431
any streams?

>>7604443
Sharp. Quality work. I get it.

And yes. The Allen Telescope Array observed Aichan last night, and will again tonight. She's been designated a "special" see links and caps here:

>>7603487
>>7603455
>>7603534
>>7603554
>>7603592

ATA has the widest field of any radio telescope, even bigger than VLA, so they have the latitude to add targets as they come up. Their observations will likely influence a near-term decision to deploy the Green telescope next month.

>>7604461
There is a .json data feed, but no raw audio.

Click "data feed":

http://setiquest.info/

Once the observation frequency range passes about 10% they'll post the results under "Obs Progress", "Last Day" and "special."

>>7604471
so it hasn't started yet?
>They were listening in real time last night, so I presume that if they had heard the ay lmao version of Major Tom they would have called a press conference.

Why didn't they mention this?

>>7604461
According to the IT contractor, ATA produces 100 Mb per second while in observation mode, so this is likely either a supercomputer analysis job, or they will shop it out to member astronomy departments, since seti@home is single-piped to Arecibo right now.

Unless they hear modulated radio playing aylamos version of In The Year 2525, it will probably be about 50 days before the earliest analysis is available.

>>7604476
Yeah thats a good question. If we don't hear their signals right away, which means they aren't broadcasting a continuous signal, should I lose hope right away ?

>>7604487
I think if they had found nothing they would say something. The only reason an embargo would happen would be if they found something.

That's me being hopeful though. They're pretty much the best possible conditions for finding about ayyliens.

>>7604476
ATA is in California, and they need night time conditions to observe. They posted they would start at 8pm Pacific, which is 11pm US Eastern, or 3am UTC.

This is such a high-sex/low- foreplay target, you just know everybody was wearing cans last night. They probably didn't hear anything newsworthy, or even noteworthy, because they only had time to cover 2.2% of Aichan's frequency range.

At that rate, it will take through November to thoroughly rule out her whole spectrum.

>>7604492
>ATA is in California, and they need night time conditions to observe.
solar rays scatter EM waves?

>>7604492
>uses the expression wearing cans
you work there, don't you

>>7604491
I think if they didn't find anything, they would keep listening for a while. If they did hear something we will probably get a news about their announcement on those signals.

>we get signal
>main screen turn on
>it's alien memes

>>7604504
It would be human dancing memes. Probably something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBqM2ytqHY4

>>7604495
Radio. And total evaporable water is the main interference source. Plus sunlight is hostile too. link related

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/communities/radio-communications

>>7604500
Yes. SETI is consistently starved for both funds and enthusiasm. Not even NASA or the Fed could prevent them from calling a news conference if they had something like the WOW signal. It would not be definitive for months anyway, and the rumor mill would generate the donations train they need to ramp up. Even if the story got killed next March, the search would continue. "Contact" got that part right.

>go to sleep
>thread stays completel still
is there another thread?

>>7605274
There is no signal so there is nothing to talk about.

just fuck my shit up fam - star

>>7605461
whats in the picture?

>>7605511
no idea, actually
I assume it's contamination from another star

>>7605519
biological contamination? how did they figure that out? ayy lmaos confirmed

>>7605524
Er, no, anon. That's not related to KIC/WTF-001, it's a random star's flux observations through time. I'm using a website called Planet Hunters that uses voluntaries to check the data and find planets, since humans are better at it than computers.

That star is fucking weird, I can only assume there's more than one star involved and the other is fucking its shit up so the sensor catches both light sources (what I mean by contamination).

>>7605525
Maybe it is trinary system, with a binary pair and a third outlying star.

The graph is way too short to determine anything anyways.

PH is a good way to determine fast and large transient events, but for anything other than that the graphs would need to be a lot longer.

>>7605550
>The graph is way too short to determine anything anyways.
fucking this, I don't understand why they don't "unlock" being able to see all the data at once, how the fuck am I going to find a planet with less than a 30 day orbit?

> mfw not recieving any signals
all hope is gone

>>7605583
source

>>7605586
> no signal
> source
source of what ?

>>7605589
signals

>>7605589
if they actually find something they'll be working on a press release and contacting the government, not updating us first

you can't say "they haven't found anything" until SETI comes out and says it

>>7605591
They probably didn't find anything and they will keep listening with the expectation of any signal at all. Everyone will forget about KIC and it will be just another lost hope.

>>7605596
source?

>>7605597
> source of something that doesn't exist.

>>7605599
exactly

>>7605600
[citation needed]

>>7605600
And you just showed that there is no signal because there is no source or proof of any kind :)

>>7605609
>>7605607
burden of evidence is on the person making the claim

>>7605618
source

>>7605622
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

>>7605618
Yeah, so if you claim we had a signal, you have to show the proof of it.

No proof; no signal :^)

>>7605625
I didn't claim such a thing, I said there were alternative explanations so offering one doesn't count as evidence

>>7605624
>the one who affirms has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim

so the burden of proof is on >>7605583 for claiming:
>not recieving any signals

requesting source

>>7605628
but no proof means, no signal. Sorry but we officially didn't recieve anything and aliens don't exist as far as we know.

>>7605630
Yes, that's what I'm saying.

>>7605633
"no proof means no signal" is false, as getting a signal doesn't guarantee we'll know

>>7605630
Are you mentally challenged or something ? There is no signal. Just like there is no flying purple unicorns and they don't exist. And since they don't exist there is no source for them.

>>7605640
you have no worth as a human being, as it hasn't shown in this conversation

>>7605591
>>7605596
They have to meticulously work through the frequency range. Anybody here even remember FM radio? It's like turning the dial. First you have to tick your way through static, then Beethoven, then Bluegrass Ramble, then four guys in their garage college station, then all the hits of the 80s and 90s, then news traffic and weather, then X rock, then, and only then way over to the right, DOO DUU DAA....................................DUM DUMMMMMMMMMMMM.

>>7605652
> i can't prove shit
> i'll resort to ad-hominems and shitposting
typical

>>7605657
the irony

>>7605660
back to >>>/x/

>>7605664
back to >>>/s4s/

>>7605665
stop shitposting in science boards already. take your "hurrr u cant prove it dosent exis so it exis" autism and fuck off back to /x/ with your reptilian garbage

It looks like last night's observations have not yet been updated to the progress log at

setiquest.info

so Aichan is still sitting at 2.2%. From the east coast, it's not easy to be awake after midnight, so I'll post Allen's update when they refresh the data.

>>7605668
/x/ here. Even i think this is ridiculous.
You're all saying it's aliens just because you can't explain it with any known natural formation, well isn't it more likely that we simply aren't aware of every natural formation that can exist? If an amateur had spotted this and made these claims he would have been laughed at but academics are allowed to get away with his sensationalist bullshit because it's not like they would ever be doing this for funding.

Hi guys, is there a way in which I can see the data for KIC8462852 measured by The Allen Telescope Array?

On their page here http://setiquest.info/ I can only found that they ar 2,2% done and which frequencies they tested, but no results.

So, uh, I missed a couple days and is KIC 8462852 really named "Ai-chan" now?

>>7605678
It's just one person said it could be a aliens anon...There is no majority or consensus of any sorts even on the facts of this case, let alone the probability of a dyson sphere.

>>7605680
>>7605672
They haven't released it yet. That clearly means they found nothing. Not that something unexpected came up.

>>7605681
It's 4chinners from other boards and their obsession with animu. Don't mind them.

>>7605686
> They haven't released it yet. That clearly means they found nothing.
oh the desperation...

>>7605689
The first 2.2% was released on time, anon.

>>7605687
>being on 4chan at all
>not liking /a/
You should probably just get out.

>>7605686
I would expect it to be vice-versa, if they find something interesting, the government will seize the data.

>>7605693
I was being sarcastic

>>7605691
The delay confirms it's aliens ? Or they're just preparing it to their own timeline and not yours.

>>7605695
No, I'm saying that a delay makes the alien hypothesis slightly more likely, not the opposite. Of course, the non-alien hypothesis is still several orders of magnitude more likely.

>>7605696
cum on son. you know its not aliens. its never ever aliens. being hopeful isn't the same wth being naive

>>7605683
Actually, the original team even acknowledged that they were considering other possibilities, like aliens, because the comet theory is extremely unlikely. Oh yeah, and SETI is all over this too. So no, it's not just one guy spouting crackpot ideas, there's a scientific consensus that this is something we've never seen before.

>>7605702
I was just saying his reasoning is retarded, I don't think it's aliens, but saying "THEY HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING, NO ALIENS CONFIRMED" is dumb

>>7605703
> there's a scientific consensus that this is something we've never seen before
yeah there is a scientific consensus on that which nobody refused. I said there is no consensus that this is aliens and that claim is made up by one guy and thats all.

>>7605706
Nope. Calling a delay is caused by alium signals is whats dumb. It's caused by one of the thousand possibilities that why people can slightly delay updates, just like every other case in the history of astronomy.

I remember people sperging out on how they found ancient relics or alien crabs on mars and they are delaying the announcement because they were preparing alien speeches. Turned out to be water just like every other sane people expected.

>>7605716
>Nope. Calling a delay is caused by alium signals is whats dumb.
And calling a delay is caused by them finding nothing is also dumb, especially when we already had an update of nothing.

>>7603976
Even if they were sending signals they would be encrypted making it useless and unidentifiable data to us

>>7605720
we don't encrypt long waves, what the hell are you talking about?

>>7605721
Yeah you're missing the point

http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/21/9363863/edward-snowden-alien-encryption

>>7605734
"When you look at encrypted communications, if they are properly encrypted, there is no real way to tell that they are encrypted. You can’t distinguish a properly encrypted communication, at least in the theoretical sense, from random noise,"

What the fuck is he talking about? Has he never heard of a statistical analysis? Why would aliens make their encrypted signals be undistinguished from background noise? Encrypted doesn't mean randomized.

>>7605736
Are your jimmies rustled? It's possible and whatever their purpose for doing so would probably be for purposes we don't understand

>>7605736
If they are encrypted, you can't for the life of your fuck can decrypt it. The only reason we can decrypt something is because we know what to expect. Unless you know the language or medium of their original message, you can't say "ok this was their message" because you couldn't even comprehend their original message even if you saw it raw.

>>7605741
To be fair why would an alien race send an encrypted signal to another civilization ? When we sent signals to outer planets, we did it in it's simplest form.

>>7605754

The only possible reason for encryption would be some sort of wartime scenario that they don't want certain people to hear.

But honestly there's no way in hell anyone would get involved in a war without FTL, shit would take too long and everyone woulld forget they were fighting inbetween salvos. And if you have FTL you ain't sending slow-ass radio signals anyway.

It's just an improbable scenario all around.

>>7605760
And why would there be a war scenario anyway ? If they wanted to come fuck us up, they wouldn't send signals to say "hey were coming over there to fuck you up, get prepared". They would just come and fuck our shit up.
Also you need a reason for something like an intergalactic war. What reason can they ever have to destroy a civilization 1500 light years away.

>>7605754
Read on what statistical analysis is. Languages can be recognized, even if we don't undertand them, even if they're encrypted.

>>7605754
Who said they're sending anything to us? What would their gain be if they're hundreds of thousands of years ahead of us, in sending a signal saying hello to a primitive, possibly dangerous (in the future) species? What would their gain be in finding another civilization that could be a threat if they have sufficient technologies and know that life exists elsewhere? signals being broadcasted could be ayylmao TV stations or communications for literally anything. Regardless it's purpose for using signals, they would be for internal use (meaning only they can decrypt... Because it's for them to use) and not to draw unwanted attention.

>>7605768
Wrong. Not when you're dealing with a civilization at a minimum of 100000 years ahead of us. If they wanted us to hear them they would know how to go about doing so. Regardless this isn't a dyson swarm anyway

>>7605775
If they made a dyson swarm they don't give a shit about getting noticed.

>>7605771
I forgot to mention they're encrypted because of the reapers

>>7605765

If there is a civilization out there at KIC 8462852, they can't possibly know we're here. Our radio signals haven't reached them yet and won't for a long time.

There's only like a handful of stars that are in range of our "bubble" and they're all shit-tier places. If any of them possibly have intelligent life on them those lifeforms either haven't developed radio technology or died out a lot time ago.

>>7605776
Right, but that's also why I said trying to understand why a super advanced civilization would encrypt their comms for any specific reason would be pointless.

>>7603245
I think its interesting that we're having all this "its aliens!" Craze at the same time when those other reports were released saying there's actually reason to believe, given the relatively young age of the universe and the large amount of time it took us to evolve, that we are one of the most advanced species in the universe. Possibly the most advanced.

If this really is aliens then they got a huge evolutionary head start on us to making dyson spheres by now.

>>7605784
They might not use radio

>>7605787
Look how far we've come in 100years. We're definitely not the most advanced

>>7605787
>when those other reports were released saying there's actually reason to believe, given the relatively young age of the universe and the large amount of time it took us to evolve, that we are one of the most advanced species in the universe. Possibly the most advanced.

And here we someone who did not read the report.

>>7605796
which report ?

So did anything else happen after the initial announcement other than anons setting themselves up for disappointment?

>>7605803
Nothing happened, nothing will happen. This is an /x/ thread

>>7603245
>open http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622v1.pdf
>c+f aliens
>0 results
i'm so ashamed at the astrophysics community

>>7605802
http://www.iflscience.com/space/earth-may-have-formed-earlier-92-other-habitable-planets

We may very well be one of the first intelligent life forms to evolve. There could be some others but if they started around the same time as us there's no reason to believe they are significantly more advanced than us, we're probably on roughly the same page. Which would probably mean they're having just as hard a time finding us as we are finding them.

Just funny to me that they come to this conclusion but at the same time we're looking at a possibly hyper advanced dyson sphere building species. It probably isn't a dyson sphere but you know it might be.

>>7605830
> Just funny to me that they come to this conclusion but at the same time we're looking at a possibly hyper advanced dyson sphere building species.
> we're looking at a possibly hyper advanced dyson sphere building species.
There's your problem right there. Two random spikes doesn't mean ayylmaos. It doesn't mean anything at all.

>>7605836
I finished by saying it probably isn't bro, I'm aware of this.

>>7605841
It's proposterous to even suggest such a thing.

>>7605847
You realize that's what this whole thread is about right?

>>7605847

So what do you think it is? I'm legitimately curious, not trying to shit-stir.

>>7605830
>if they started around the same time as us there's no reason to believe they are significantly more advanced than us
Well, "around the same time as us" is very vague.
Life on earth has taken nearly 4 billion years to get this far, and if they have a 0.1% head start on us, that's still millions of years.
Hell, even 0.0001% head start is thousands of years.

>>7605855

This
Thank you for wording that better than I could have.

>>7605853
Multiple objects crossing between earth and KIC with a 2 year interval. Thats all we have if you take out all the tryhard ayylmao interpretations.

>>7605855
Yea but would 1000 or even 1000000 years be enough to make them space faring? Do you think we will be in that amount of time? I kinda doubt it. Interstellar travel is pretty complicated.

You need large ships that can transport whole communities at near light speed for it to be even remotely practical.

Maybe there's a species out there that is marginally more advanced than us but so what. The notion of a race far ahead of us is unlikely. We were pretty early to the party given the age of our earth and the age of the universe. Wonder how those ancient alien theorists are gonna handle this lol.

>>7605871

So you don't think they're within KIC's gravity well? The paper seemed to think they were, why do you not think so?

>>7605877
The paper concluded that their hypotesis suggesting it might be in KICs orbit without giving any reason whatsoever. There is not an indication on how it might be orbiting KIC.
And considering there is an incredibly long distance between earth and KIC, the probability of it being somewhere in the middle is much more likely.

>>7605830
That's so retarded I am cringing. There could be civilizations billions of years older than us. Extrapolating from earth facts is retarded af, and evolution isn't a linear transformation...just think that the if the dinosaurs wouldn't have died because of an asteroid, we still wouldn't exist

>>7605736

Let me explain differently for you. I was in the military and had to fuck around with secure radio communications all the time.

If you were on a single-channel plain text frequency, there is a tiny, miniscule, ridiculously low chance that you will EVER pick anything up from an encrypted broadcast. Most of the time the military operates on Frequency hop/cypher text communication. If you listen on SC/PT and pick up a FH/CT transmission, it doesn't sound like anything. You don't hear anything.

If the ayyyylmaoiens are encrypted, chances are it's with a technology that massively outscales our own, and we won't even pick it up.

>>7605873
>Yea but would 1000 or even 1000000 years be enough to make them space faring? Do you think we will be in that amount of time? I kinda doubt it. Interstellar travel is pretty complicated.

They don't have to be inter-stellar capable to be making a Dyson swarm or sphere.
We could be there in a thousand years or far, far less if we invent a few key technologies.

>>7605873
>The notion of a race far ahead of us is unlikely
Look how far we've come in the last 2 million years, what could the next two million bring?
Hell, look where we were a thousand years ago.
You're a complete tard.

>>7605873
>We were pretty early to the party
sigh...
please actually read my post
>>7605855
>even 0.0001% head start is thousands of years.

>>7605877
>>7605881
They also noted the presence of two ISM clouds between Earth and Aichan, and they included the Na D line spectra that proves they are there.

>>7605943

Where's there?

>>7605929
OK I'm sorry ancient aliens are real 100% confirmed I'll never doubt it again even though you know fucking scientists doubt it. You've shown me the light anon.

>>7605946
Interposed on the line of site between Earth and Aichan. They are extra-solar, and farther from her than 15AU. If one of the has a steady pinwheeling motion, a dense tendril of molecular gas could be the mysterious occluder. That's why the team made prominent note of it.

>>7605952
>OK I'm sorry ancient aliens are real 100% confirmed

>>7606009
Its true. Just ask anon. Another race started evolving 1000000 years before us and they're far more advanced now. Don't listen to those silly scientists who doubt this is true, anon knows.

>>7606003

Okay now I'm confused.

If the team makes special note in one part of the report that there's an object in-between the Earth and KIC that could be the source of the disturbance, why did they go for the giant comet swarm explanation?

The ATA team will be sitting on its results. Dammit.


"Although Harp couldn’t reveal the team’s results yet — that will come soon when a paper is submitted in few weeks in a science journal — he did share the excitement of a the hunt in a phone interview Tuesday."

http://www.universetoday.com/122971/seti-institute-undertakes-search-for-alien-signal-from-kepler-star-kic-8462852/

Also the "calling all cars" bell has been rung:
https://www.aavso.org/aavso-alert-notice-532

What would an alien race send anyway? A basic hello or a huge array of text and images describing what they look like along with things like math and chemistry?

>>7606024
I think it's all a matter of probabilities. Out of 150,000 stars, none were "lucky" enough to get caught at the exact moment when a freak tendril of interstellar material just happened to wave at Kepler (twice). And ISM clouds are generally vastly huge which also means comparatively slow moving. So it's very unlikely (> 1 in 150,000) but that is still not zero, so they have to acknowledge it.

The team at Allen told a reporter that they think Aichan got transited by the remains of a collision of some kind. Which would also be a lottery ticket discovery since in millions of years of nothing it happened during the exact 1500 day interval when Kepler was looking at it.

Of the two, the ISM cloud is more in agreement with Tabby's data. It would be colder than infrared if more than 15AU out, and it would not induce any wobble in Aichan.

The comet swarm. This one has the benefit of a force multiplier. Each comet's tail would multiply the amount of occlusion while adding only a tiny amount of mass. So it might take only a few hundred regular cometary objects to block that much light if all of their tails were somehow overlapped along our line of sight.

This also requires that this swarm be between 3 and 15 AUs from Aichan and the farther the better because no infrared detection.

So all explanations require something pretty freaky.

>>7606026
Does that mean no announcement from seti team for a few weeks ?
Figures. If they had anything remotely exciting, they would share it already. It's pointless to hope.

>>7606047

I guess.

I found the lady's email address and just mailed her directly to ask.

Wonder if she'll reply?

>>7606046
>array of text and images describing what they look like along with things like math and chemistry?

That's what we sent in 1974 (we = humanity, even though I don't remember the chance to vote on it). So here's hoping the Centauris and the Vegans are friendly because they've heard us by now.

>>7606051
Weeks yeah. I agree. SETI has their hand out every day for money. They need the buzz.

>>7606059
Is this really what we sent ? No wonder why were not getting any fucking replies back . What the fuck is that shit ? Even a human wouldn't understand what it is.

>>7606066
I see plenty of info there. Constellations, us being the third rock from the sun, etc.

>>7606066
Yeah that's exactly it. It's binary, unencrypted, loud, and modulated across multiple frequencies and it has the numbers 1-10 (supposed to show we can count), atomic numbers for some elements (we're smart enough to know about atomic stuff), some dna formulas (this is what we're made of), a human (look at us, cosmic selfie!), a solar map to find us (hope you guys are not hungry, or you know, mean or anything), and a representation of the Aericbo dish (this is what sent this message to you).

It's 41 light years or so out, so every star inside the fourth ring has heard it by now:

http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/50lys.html

>>7606018
Are you huffing glue?

>Another race started evolving 1000000 years before us
Nobody made that claim, I just said that IF such a race existed, and had even a tiny percent head start, they'd be thousands or millions of years ahead of us.

>and they're far more advanced now
Nobody's making this claim either, just that IF such a race existed, AND they had a head start, they MIGHT be advanced enough to make a Dyson swarm..

>>7606018
>Don't listen to those silly scientists who doubt this is true,
Name ONE scientist that can rule out the possibility of extraterrestrial intelligence, or that E.T. didn't get a head start on us.

Ultimately, I'm refuting this nonsense:
>>7605830
>if they started around the same time as us there's no reason to believe they are significantly more advanced than us,
IF such a race exists, AND they had even a tiny percent head start on us, there's every reason to believe they could be far more technologically advanced.

>>7606066
>No wonder why were not getting any fucking replies back
The real reason may be because we wimped out.
The Arecibo message was aimed up and out of the galactic disk. minimizing the chances it would be heard by anyone.

Aichan has been given an update frequency range instead of just a placeholder but she's still at 2.2%. So whatever they heard last night has been analyzed. Which means there are at least two people on Earth who know if they heard anything.

setiquest.info "special", "Last Week"

Friendly reminder that if you're capable of building a dyson swarm you're capable of fusion already.

>>7605653
>Implying it wouldn't be DA BA DI DA BA DIE

>>7606097
Idk what your so upset about. I agree with you now, I believe :^) you made me a believer :^)

Has anyone ever thought of this? If ayylmaos wanted to send a message in our general direction, they'd just need a very small movable mirror/diaphragm or something with reasonably accurate position control. Position it in between our solar system and some big star and off you go. I made a pic for clarification.

>>7606234
The problem with this is that the diaphragm would need to be at least the same angular diameter as the star would appear to have from earths perspective. Which means it should be motherfucking huge.

>>7606250
But even if it didn't cover the entire star there would still be a noticable dip in brightness.

>>7606262
it has to cover 20% of the brightness, that's a lot

>>7606059
There were 9 known planets, but since Pluto is no more defined as one.

>>7606270
Moon is WAAYYY smaller than sun, but when it gets between earth and sun it covers %100 of it

>>7606318
I don't undertand your point. Are you claiming the mystery object is close to us, and yet it covered a single star?

>>7606319
It's not hard to cover something by %20 that stands1400 light years away.

>>7606321
it is hard to do that and not cover any other star in the way
you do know we looked at a bunch of stars in the area at the same time, right?

>>7606250
>at least the same angular diameter as the star would appear to have from earths perspective
yes
>Which means it should be motherfucking huge.
Not necessarily, if the star is far away and the aliens are relatively close to us.

>>7606324
How do you expect the nearby stars to show any kind of dimming if it's not on the same trajectory with the object passing ? Not to mention the path of the object will be way off when it gets to the other stars.
Also whats the radius of KIC ?

>>7606342

It orbits. There is evidence for it.

Why are you being so dumb?

Why did you drop out of highschool?

>>7606346
Not him, and actually the person he was talking to, but I couldn't find the evidence in the paper after looking hard for it. They just seem to assume it is orbiting.

>>7606346
What is the evidence for the thing you claim thats orbiting which you can't even see ?
Also, whats the radius of KIC ?

>>7603876
I'm still curious about pic related (Don't mind the glitch)

Does it really fit a multi mode pulsar? Does anyone know?

When i zoomed in, it looked exactly like the graph (although stretched), but it's kinda hard to see on the unzoomed graph.
I didn't manage to favorite the star, so I can't find it now, I couldn't find the direct link to the star when i found it because i was not logged in :<

> entire thread
> not one proof of orbiting
nice alien thread

>>7606357
"Finally, we use the stellar properties derived from our spectroscopic analysis to estimate a stellar mass M = 1:43M , luminosity log L = 0:67L and radius R = 1:58 R, corresponding to a main-sequence F3 V star."

It's 1.58 times the radius of the Sun.

>>7606376
I got that one too

>>7606378
>entire thread
>don't read it
>proceed to read the last few posts
>acquire info on lack of evidence of the orbital behaviour of these objects
>do not bother reading the paper to check if it's true
>make a post like "nice alien thread" trying to fit in

I ain't even mad

>>7606390
I've been in the thread from the beginning and I read the paper. I asked for proof, not their hypothesis based on a vague dimming. You're the one who can't read a damn post.

>>7606401
you know, there actually isn't any proof we are orbiting the sun

>>7606376
This could be produced by a transiting planet whose orbit both crosses the face of the star, and whose ecliptic also revolves around the stellar axis. But then the higher highs would have to come from a companion or from an intrinsic variability.

It's a good one. You can put the pic on Talk and I bet they can find it.

Yes there is. You know how ? because we revolved around more than 2 times...
or even 3 times...
or even 5000 times...

>>7606428
>put the pic on Talk and I bet they can find it.
This is how they found Aichan.

Maybe this will not be aliens, but give me a single reason why the Wow! signal is not aliens.

>>7606452
what makes you think its aliens ? what kind of proof do you have to imply it was aliens who did it ?

>>7606470
Its frequency in particular. It is basically the best possible frequency that one could use in interstellar attempts to communication.

>>7606489
isn't it like a really small vague signal that can easily be a glitch or something else ?

>>7604464
The ATA does not have the largest field of view. Single apertures have much larger fields of view, some arrays view half the sky. Yes it's larger than the VLA because the VLA has a very small field of view.

>>7606504
It has been pored over multiple times, and the best consensus is it was celestial, not local. It's amplitude fit exactly the expected curve for the rotation of the Earth (Big Ear was fixed-position) into and out of the signal's focus. It was in the protected band with Earth transmitters are not allowed to use, and which are manufactured to be disabled in. It was on the Hydrogen line, It was 30 times louder than the ambient background. No orbiting satellite can accidentally reflect back that much signal.

That doesn't mean it was aliens. But it doesn't mean it wasn't either. It was cosmic, though.

>>7605561
You're not, you find the transit, someone else finds the others. It's actually a good idea as it prevents you from seeing that you want to.

Isn't there any news from SETI yet ? I'm losing hope every hour.

>>7606559
so you're saying I'm only supposed to find a single spare dot? that's what computers are best at, holy shit

>>7606543
And to fit the amplitude curve, any satellite that reflected anything back would have to have been geostationary, which makes it even less likely because that orbit is really far away. And it wasn't exactly the hoppin traffic jam it is now in 1977.

>>7606564
Yes. They said:

>>7606026

>>7605920
Yeah no.

I worked on a solar radio spectrometer project which put cheap receivers all over the world. Everywhere the same group of signals was detected, from NRO spysats. We even used them to calibrate. They will be encrypted but that doesn't mean you cannot detect the power in the band in a total power telescope.

>>7606593
> Although Harp couldn’t reveal the team’s results yet — that will come soon when a paper is submitted in few weeks in a science journal.
> a science journal.
If they heard anything significant, it would be newsworthy and not just a crappy column thats waiting to be forgotten in some journal.

They didn't find shit :c

so it's nothing then.

>>7606618
maybe they want to be sure it's completely confirmed and peer reviewed so they don't call them nutjobs

>>7606618
They have 97.8% of the frequency band to go. Plus, if they find anything - anything at all - that looks hinky in cosmic terms, do you think the first thing would be /not/ to validate the ever loving shit out of it before you tell the world ET is calling?

>>7606635
>>7606632
dude, they would definitely give a heads up if they found anything. It would be the first official confirmation of alien life. You know how NASA gets excited even to small babby news. They don't announce what they find but they tweet they discovered something remarkable or something to that nature. They definitely make their excitement apparent to everyone.

>>7606567
One data point is not a transit. It can be done very well in an automated fashion, which is where most candidates come from. Sometimes fitting routines fail for a variety of reasons.

>>7606642
More super salty water on Mars? Or maybe even normal salty water on Europa?

>>7606642
>dude, they would definitely give a heads up if they found anything.
>GUYS WE FOUND AYYLIENS
>turns out to be a mistake
>funding removed

They would want to confirm it

>>7606642
Plus, who knows what they will hear. If it were the first ten prime numbers repeated dead on the hydrogen line, in perfect interval, well, that's one thing. But they might get who knows what kind of weird variable stuttering whatsit out there. Anything other than "YEP WE"RE ALYYLIUMS AND WE"RE TRYING REALLY HARD TO BE FOUND" they'll have to work it over and peer review it to make sure it's not something already found in nature.

A star dissolves its planets.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v526/n7574/full/nature15527.html

>>7607208
here's the light curve

>>7607687

Explain this to me like I'm an idiot. What does this mean?

>>7606704
Yeah, only broadcasting mathematical sequences to outer universe without adding any kind of communication about yourself would be a big waste of transmission. I'm sure if they're sending signals, it will include much more than that.

>>7607943
dots = starlight from the white dwarf
red = usual light curve when a planet would pass the white dwarf
blue = light curve modeled for a dissolving planet that passes the white dwarf
y-axis = percentage of starlight received
x-axis = time in minutes

>>7607687
So this would happen only once and after that the planet's gone? Or would the planet clump together again? Or is it a continuous process and next local year it's even more smeared out?

>>7606059

Shouldn't sending "FUCK MY SHIT UP TBH FAM" signals in space be considered crime against humanity?

>>7608005
I guess they figured that since we already put pic into deep space on Pioneer, that the cat was already out of the bag.

>>7608091
And we put this one V-ger and look how that is going to turn out.

So the ATA observation status shows no targets from last night. Was anybody awake? Weather? Any word on why nothing last night?

>>7607977
but why are people saying alians

>>7608093
my dad works at SETI and says Obama was there

>>7608094

Because there's these big blips around a far-off star that are fucking huge but don't seem to have a planet's mass (no gravity wobble) so people think they might be flat artificial structures. You don't tend to get flat or hollow shapes like that in space because of how gravity works.

Honestly it's most likely not aliens, but whatever it is it's something new and weird and interesting.

>>7608094
that's not the same star
KIC had 20% of its light dimming twice, which means an object at least 1/5 as big as the star passed in front of it
no object can get that big without becoming a star itself, so it has to be a LOT of objects
we've never seen a group of meteors occlude a sun like that, and even then it would be a huge amount and would take some crazy circumstances to happen

but that's our only hypothesis besides aliens

ok but even if it were aliens why the fuck do we care, it's too far away.

everything is.

>>7608107
if we find aliens through waves it means we can read alien information and hopefully learn how the fuck they made a dyson sphere

also it might start the space race again

>>7608107
it's nice to know

>>7608109
again, too far away.

>>7608124
how? If they were aiming at us with arecibo-equivalents they'd be able to get some of our satellite TV

>>7608127
1500 years later, of course

>>7608130
word
fuck this, it was interesting but it's over

>>7608133
I don't think you understand what you mean. For us, 1500 years ago is where they supposedly have a dyson swarm you dumbass. Yes, from their perspective we're just a green planet with some non-technological life, but from ours they're valuable.

>>7608133

No.

Not word, you stupid hipster faggot.

If they have tech to build structures in space then it's almost guaranteed to have radio transmission.

>>7608135

Imagine if we radioed them asking how to make Dyson Spheres and 3000 years later they replied with "no".

>>7608149
What part of receiving their personal radio signals do you not understnad

>>7608151
>What part of receiving their personal radio signals do you not understnad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law

>>7608158

>://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law

>babby's first astronomy class

>>7608158
WOW! signal came from 500 meters away and it was still pretty fucking strong

>>7608164
>500 meters

Can someone explain to me why some people are jumping the gun/getting all butthurt over the results not getting put out when they want it to be, and therefor claiming it's nothing? This personally makes zero sense to me.

>>7608222
They're impatient and wanna see green little men building a dyson sphere when in reality it's probably something else, whatever it is, it's new and fascinating.
They've barely observed the star, there's definitely going to be some interesting things popping up in the near future.

When SETI discovered Kepler 186-f, they embargoed the discovery for several weeks whiile the referee and review process played out for the Science magazine article about it.

During the embargo, ATA made 3 scans of it (the most Earth-like planet to date), and found nothing they could call anything.

But what they say they would have done is wait for the embargo to end, then trumpet the bejesus out of it once confirmed.

So that's probably what we can expect here. A few weeks of nothing, maybe not even observation updates (still weird why no update from last night.)

>>7606618
Lol why are you even on /sci/

Regardless of what they find, they won't claim to know 100% what it is unless they want to lose their credibility. They last thing you want to do is claim aliens, or faster than light neutrinos, only to discover the instruments weren't completely plugged in.

Only after their results are verified will they claim validity, not before.

Imagine them claiming aliens, getting shitloads of funds to do follow-up research, and then "discover" that it was actually just another space rock. All the alien funds are lost and they'll never receive an ounce of cash again that isn't deemed absolutely necessary.

>>7608257
SETI didn't discover the planet, they don't do that.

>>7608447
"We know of just one planet where life exists -- Earth. When we search for life outside our solar system we focus on finding planets with characteristics that mimic that of Earth," said Elisa Quintana, research scientist at the SETI Institute at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif., and lead author of the paper published today in the journal Science."

Now, you can parse that if you want. But NASA gave SETI the credit.

>>7608447
Science 18 April 2014:
Vol. 344 no. 6181 pp. 277-280
DOI: 10.1126/science.1249403

Report

An Earth-Sized Planet in the Habitable Zone of a Cool Star

>1 Elisa V. Quintana1,2,*,
Thomas Barclay2,3,
Sean N. Raymond4,5,
Jason F. Rowe1,2,
Emeline Bolmont4,5,
Douglas A. Caldwell1,2,
Steve B. Howell2,
Stephen R. Kane6,
Daniel Huber1,2,
Justin R. Crepp7,
Jack J. Lissauer2,8,
David R. Ciardi9,
Jeffrey L. Coughlin1,2,
Mark E. Everett10,
Christopher E. Henze2,
Elliott Horch11,
Howard Isaacson12,
Eric B. Ford13,14,
Fred C. Adams15,16,
Martin Still3,
Roger C. Hunter2,
Billy Quarles2,
Franck Selsis4,5

>1 1SETI Institute, 189 Bernardo Avenue, Suite 100, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA.

2NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA 94035, USA.

>>7606618
Every scientific finding must be peer-reviewed and published in a professional scientific journal before being accepted by scientists, kid. If you are a scientist, you can't just say something and expect others to accept. And it's not "some crappy column". Scientific journals have very specific layout (definitely not like your typical journal or newspaper) in order to provide as much information as possible, because they are supposed to serve as primary sources.

Observation update for Aichan after all. They did 0.8% last night, so she's a total of 3% covered now.

>somehow start getting first-viewings in planet hunters (be the first to see those signals)
>not sure if because of being good at it or an email I sent requesting a feature
>discover a weird phenomenom in a signal where light makes a vertical half-circle somefuckinghow

please tell me I discovered something, don't let it be a glitch

Somewhat random question, I'd like to search for posts from the previous KIC threads but archive.moe is kill, is /sci/ being archived anywhere else, anyone know?

>>7608918
nevermind, warosu.org includes /sci/
seems to be the only one though...

>>7608735

Give us more info~

>>7608958
>>/sci/thread/S7605084
>>7600096
>>7600788

>>7608735
Im curious too

>>7609984
>>7609204

>>7610022
thats not explaining much

>>7610058
Well, I don't know what the fuck that is. X is time, so how would the light do a shape like that?

What sort of star is KIC anyway? what's the habitable zone?

>>7610342
no planets have been found

>>7610348

Yeah but you'd be able to tell where a planet would be in the system based on what sort of star it is.

Even if said planet isn't there now the star type would tell us where it might have been and how stable it would have been.

>>7610377
where a planet with life, you mean? habitable zones are mostly human-designed, other types of life could exist

>>7610389

Yeah but we don't know the perameters for those, so all we can do is apply the knowledge we do have and see what we can do for now.

Anyway I went and googled it.

It's an F-Type Main-Sequence Star, pretty similar to our own in size and heat.

That's interesting, I guess.

>>7610377
There is no definitive model as to wear a planet will appear in a system. Our star has 8 planets, other earth like stars may have 0 or 20. it gets even more complicated when you add binary systems into the mix. The way we are able to tell where planets of distant stars are is by measuring the doppler shift of the star when it slightly wobbles due to it orbiting the planet, it has nothing to do with the type of star

>>7610408

Sure, but the type of star tells us where a planet that could develop life (going off our knowledge) would be.

If such a zone isn't viable in the KIC system then it'd suggest that whoever build the hypothetical megastructures may not originally be from there, for example.

>>7610488
But there's no reason to assume they would have the same habitable zone as us (assuming it's even aliens)

>>7610488
>>7610679
KIC's habitable zone would be about equivalent to the zone from just inside the orbit of Mars, to about the asteroid belt. It's mass and luminosity were estimated in Tabby's paper to be 1.4 solar masses and 120% to 150% solar luminosity.

Someone who was taking the threads seriously earlier said that the red dwarf neighbor has at least one planet, but I haven't been able to confirm that.

Last night ATA observed another 2.1% of Aichan's frequency range, for a running total of 5.1% coverage complete.

bumping to save ai-chan

> come to /sci/
> Thread about something called ai-chan
> Google Ai-chan
> japanese girls
why is this happening

>>7611273
What is board culture? Do you even know where you are?

I completely understand not liking anime or the obsession with Japanese culture that many Anons here exhibit. But at least understand that it is a significant aspect of this site's culture and will continue to persist everywhere on this domain regardless of how uncomfortable it makes a couple people feel.

Feel free to continue complaining though, I was just pointing out that it isn't "happening" but that it has existed ever since this place first grew a community, and will probably continue to exist for as long as the community does. You are still entitled to your opinions and can share them as freely as you want (however, this does not imply that you will be exempt from possible repercussions carried out by either the moderation team or other community members).

In ai-chan we trust

>>7611302
Holy hell man, are you ok?

>>7610744

Cool, thanks.

>>7611273
>what is 4chan for the daily double, Alex
>"This was the first board, and m00t's preferred board for his entire tenure"
>what is /a/, Alex?

How's it goin, there, fng? Lurk moar.

>>7611652
>fng
It's ok, you can say fag. We won't tell on you.

>>7611775
Actually, anon meant fng, short for "fucking new guy"

So Anon wasn't just calling you a fag, they were calling you a newfag

>>7611818
>Actually, anon meant fng, short for "fucking new guy"
Oh so something no one fucking uses

>>7605771
To find another life. We do it too, anon. We are sending signals in space just to know if anything is out there, not because of any practical benefits.

How many AUs is this from the star?

>>7612398
Between 3 and 15 according to Tabby's analysis of the data.