/sci/ - Science & Math

Dankness is a social construct all memes equally dank in the long term

Just use D (m ), or dankness as a function of meme and maximize the function, ie, dD / dm=0.

That meme value is the dankest meme as it maximizes the dankness function. No set theory required.

Meme dankness fluctuates too rapidly to be quantified. Even the act of cataloging or recording a meme as a meme reduces its dankness.

Usually a memes dankness increases sharply after it's initial production, then falls off quickly as it becomes more well known.

>>7580151
dD/dm can be zero without D being either a maximum or minimum. I can tell you're underage.

probably dubs

>>7580132
The true nature of memes is beyond human comprehension and cannot be expressed mathematically.

Be careful anon, its dangerous to ask these kinds of questions. You know not what you tamper with.

>>7580151
couldn't you just use max|D|?

>>7580132
Memes can be idealized as linear mappings between locally hilbert spaces. Simply choose an appropriately normed functional with total ordering on the metric it induces and proceed from there.

>inb4 inter-universal dankness theory

>>7580132
a partial order wouldn't imply there is a dankest, my fellow scrublord.

also, i think dank memes would have to form a proper class.

>>7580159
>Baited

first, we view the memes as an quotient set with the equivalence being "same meme type as"
for instance, each pepe is a meme of the type pepe, so it goes in the pepe meme class
we do not know if the set of memes is finite, but if there is, there is a morphism 糸 mapping the memes to the a subset of the naturals
the debate about whether 糸 exists is itself a meme
this means that the set of memes has now incremented in size by one
the domain of 糸 does not contain this new meme, so we argue that there must be another function 色 which maps the new set to the larger subset of naturals
like 糸, the debate about whether 色 exists is a meme, causing the set of memes to increment again
you can group these into a class 望 which represents the "there are infinite memes" meme
this would increment the set of memes by one, thus causing the first meme in 望 (糸) to be inconsistent, thus causing the next meme to be inconsistent and so forth
this induction-like chain of implications would lead to 望 not existing, which means that 望 can not be a class of memes, and 糸 and 色 and so forth must each be their own meme classes
this thus proves that the amount of memes is infinite

i would include my marvelous proof of the nonexistence of a dankest meme, but this margin is too small to contain it

>>7580132
I've done some research into eigenmeme expansions.

>>7580478
BRAVO ANON
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>>7580478
is this real

>>7580478
I think a Cantor diagonalization argument would fit well here.

>>7580478
:'^}

is there a quantum element to memes that when the dankness density becomes too high the meme forces a wavefunction collapse whereupon it alters a sequence of quantum measurements in a timeline towards making the meme "real", manifesting in measureable physical effects?

>>7580489
spectral meme theory is a shit-tier specialization
its literally meme research

>>7580478
Grand unified meme theory when?

>>7580132
pepe is the supreme meme

>>7580478

I think this would be dependent on first proving
>the debate about whether 糸 exists is itself a meme
because if 糸 does not contain 糸 - 色 then 糸 = 色

I know nothing about set theory, is this right?


Also
>but this margin is too small to contain it
I'm immune to your Wiles.

ITT the orthodox math establishment doesn't want to realize meme equivalence classes are not well-defined

>>7580132
Die

>>7580763
Is this thread too dank for you?

the memes must flow

>>7580478

Ah yes. The Danking Lemma.

>partial ordering of memes
I believe there must be. If nothing else, we can order memes by frequency of observance.

All the non-trivial zeros of the dank function are members of the reddit subset.

Calculating the dankness of a meme, in general, is without a doubt the philosopher's stone of meme mathematics and science. I posit that the mapping f from meme to dankness metric is not simply a function of the meme. The dankness metric must also depend on the memes around it, which I call the global meme state. Therefore, the the mapping f must be a function of both the meme and the global meme sate.

>>7580478
I reject that there is a not a dankest meme. Infinite sets can have maximal elements.

>>7582366
Sounds like the methods of the fractional calculus may be applicable here

>>7580151
You would have to find D''(m) and evaluate it at the point which D'(m)=0 to determine the nature of the stationary point.

>>7583299
Dubs, nice

>>7583299
How did you calculate these dubs?

Also can it be determined mathematically the most appropriate way to check 'em?

>>7583329
I'd say that dubs checking is more of an art than science

>>7580478
this proof is flawed

>>7580132
I'm pretty sure the space of all memes is uncountably infinite, mane. And furthermore, I would bet that the dankest meme isn't well defined - a sort of infinity-meme, if you will. You might be able to find some kind of dank asymptote, but you probably won't know if it is the dankest, or even unique.

Values of memes are completely objective and uncatagorical.

Meme instability has been proven for all non-trivial cases.

>>7583299

Are dubs a meme that has reached critical mass? In memespace could it be likened to The Great Attractor? Such a concentration of dankness that all other memes are in interaction with it?

>>7583553
your objection is a meme

>>7580132
>>7580151
>>7580478
STOP

>>7580159
>>7580174
>>7583239

It should be obvious to those who have studied dankness that it is an upward facing parabola, so there's no ambiguity that the derivative of dankness with respect to meme set equal to zero is the maximum dankness point.

Is dankness relative or absolute?

>>7586146
Dankness is beyond all mortal reasoning. Finding the dankest meme is really job for /x/

>>7586152
We can only truly find out the answer through linking all sentient beings as a neural network. Then we can begin The Search.

>>7586146
Relative, no frame of dankness can be prefered over another

>>7586099
It could be a local maximum however and that would be deadly to our memetic quest.

>>7586152
I propose that "dankness" inhabits a state of ontological "oneness" within which the dichotomy of "absolute versus relative" is a purely arbitrary division that indicates nothing. This is beyond the scope of any quantitative measurement.

>>7586302
incorrect, measurements to memes have been made so science must be done to them. science must progress. below you will find output from meme science:

>Done analyzing >>7580132.
>Found 69 memes in 50 posts. The thread has 138.0% memeness.

>>7586308
THESE MEME EXPERIMENTS HAVE NEVER BEEN REPRODUCED 1:1

YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME

>>7586308
You fool! stop tampering with this forbidden knowledge, Xenu is gonna be so pissed.

>>7580151
>m
>continuous

>>7580588
>immune to your Wiles
kek

>>7586319
different people have different ideas about what memes are, and there is no rigorous definition
if you allow for an axiom which states that each meme has an image form, which is a (possible infinite) matrix of 4-entry column matrices, with real entries, this allows you to connect each meme via homotopy to another meme by connecting each of the 4-vectors by homotopy
because the definition of meme varies, some ultra-tard could interpret each point on this new meme-line as a meme
you could then connect each meme between memes to any other meme between memes, thus forming a proper topological space
i believe this also forms a hilbert space, but i was unable to verify this
this sets you up to prove that m is continuous and memes are uncountably infinite
this also paves way to a proof that there is no dankest meme