/sci/ - Science & Math

>>7501835
PhD in math.

>>7501835

Depends. On a bachelors alone? None, except computer science because everybody wants a code monkey these days (shit, you don't even need the CS degree. Just pick up industry-relevant skills and build a portfolio on github).

Depends if you mean staying entirely within one field or building transferable skill sets.
If the former, inorganic chemistry. It's boring as fuck, no one wants to do it, but it's essential. I remember the careers advice always used to be go for colour chemistry, now it's go for battery chemistry.
For the latter, biochemistry. You have to learn a little of everything, and you have easy side steps to medicine, chemical engineering, computer modelling and organic chemistry. Just a shame the pay is shit...

mechanical engineering
electrical engineering
civil engineering
computer science/some CIS shit maybe

None.

>>7501851
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>>7501851
301k starting

>>7502307
wow, i got a 401k at my starting job, 300k salary too. Never even heard of a 301k

PhD in Yoga Pants Engineering

>>7502427
I got lost looking at the yoga pants and forgot the question.

>>7502307
>>7501851
>>7502369
I guess having the only option of being a teacher when you're a math PhD still puts you in somewhat of a secure spot, but that number is fucking bullshit. If you're an undergrad and are thinking 100k-200k, you're in for a disappointment.

>>7502492
too serious grasshopper

>>7502146
>CS
>Not Saturated

You dun goofed

stem fields that have job security are the ones involved in skill or trade rather than pure knowledge or theories.

medical field:
nursing
physician
pharm technician
psychiatry (growth in mental problems for vets and children)
chemistry technician or chemists
surgery
anesthesiology
medical technician
ICU
engineering:
machine operators or machinists
computer programmers
welding
electrician
technical communications and or network technicians
repair technicians
construction and construction management or civil engineering

i would berry my dick so far inside her ass who ever could pull it out would be crowned king arthur

>>7503036
>no nuclear engineer

>>7503055
Nuclear is the opposite of job security

>>7503062
>implying we dont have weird ass terms for all our shit so people dont know wtf were talking about
i had a professor even make a joke about all the jargon in the field and how its added job security
besides, who the fuck else is gonna do core design, neutronics, and all the other nuke shit, not counting all the other industries nukes thrive in (because they know just about everything)

None of them. What you really need to do is learn Mandarin or Hindi, because all the best-paying work is over there now. You can literally double your salary well into the six-figure range by being able to train a lab in China to do the same menial work you did for a company in the States, and they'll pay your flights out there and give you tons of time back in the states.

>>7503076
>double your salary
>six figure range
lel that's typical engr salary range in the US tho

>>7503068
>who the fuck else is gonna do core design, neutronics, and all the other nuke shit
The Chinese and Indians. Reactors are popping up like mushrooms in the Orient, despite what happened to the Japanese in 2011.

>>7501835
My god I absolutely love girls in this position

>>7503084
because they dont have the NRC. and US job security has nothing to do with china and india

>>7503092
plus the US is constructing 4 new AP1000s as we speak

>>7503092
>US job security has nothing to do with china and india
Yes that's why call centers are now stereotypicaly portrayed as being located in Mumbai. Seriously though, once the Indians and Chinese get decent enough at designing and building their own reactors, they'll export the technology to South America and Africa. This could have an effect on the US nuclear research job security since developing nations can now purchase the technology they need from somewhere other than America.

health science or engineering

>>7503100
>comparing call centers to domestic nuclear power stations
lel

Gender engineering

>>7503082
Yeah chemical engineers will get paid way more to spend a few months of the year in china helping set up a factory for a chemical or some other job, simply because there's an immense demand over there. And you don't even need to be hired by a Chinese company, you just need to work for the right branch of a major chemical manufacturer.

>>7503113
>wanting to get anywhere near China
>EVER

>>7503133
/thread

>>7503133
but chinese girls love white boys

>>7501835
Electrical engineering. Trust me, they will need people to actually engineer the robot waifus of the future

>>7503084
>mushrooms

lmao

>>7503137
that's not electrical you butt head. that's mechatronics.

Combat engineer

i hate to say it.. but it's probably CS. i just got my EE degree and kind of regret not majoring in CS. i have a pretty mediocre GPA and no internships. my friend was CS, was in the same boat academically and immediately got a job at a major defense contractor. i'm still looking for a job. and i'm actually better at programming than circuit design, despite my degree. it's easy to program on the side. with EE, you need thousands of dollars of equipment to really get into circuit design.

>>7503213
fuck defense contractors.

>>7503214
alright, but you can't say the pay isn't good and that the job security isn't there. there's always money for war.

>>7503214

>mad that people are getting paid shit loads to effectively have a career that is essentially a mix of engineering summer camp and LARP

stay mad pacifist

>all these people saying chemistry/chemical engineering is where job security is

Uh, what? Did I miss something? I'm a senior majoring in chem with plans to go do a PhD in organic or a ChemE masters. I've tirelessly researched the job market for chemists and nearly every source I read says jobs are dwindling for chemists. Fuck, google "chem grad school" and the 5th or so option is "I can't get a job even though I have a PhD".

Seriously though, did something happen recently that improved the job market? Is it on the upswing for industry? I was under the impression companies just fuck and chuck their chemists as they need them. I damn near had a fucking mental break down this summer because I started to realize I would never achieve my goals or dreams in such a shitty job market. You have no idea how happy this would make me if someone could link me somewhere that tells me chem is coming back to relevance.

>>7503226
How you could feel comfortable going to work every day knowing you are contributing to the creation of weapons which will be used to kill is beyond me. As far as I'm concerned, they're paying you to relinquish your morals more than anything else.

>>7502146
so long as you don't work in the oil industry with mech electrical or chem eng

>>7503275
yeah, nobody that knows what they're talking about has ever said that. shut up.

>>7503275
why joy just apply to med school? So many pre meds study pure chemistry or biochemistry.

Actuarial science

>>7503275
>How you could feel comfortable going to work every day knowing you are contributing to the creation of weapons which will be used to kill is beyond me
one word. politicians.

>>7501835
The best job security is not being a retard and being able to learn anything and continuously learning everything.

>>7503308
Except for entry level. The competition is brutal.
>oh you passed 3 exams with a good GPA? Sorry you don't have enough experience for this internship. Try getting an internship and experience. Then we might consider you for an internship
I was about to punch face Stacy from HR.

>>7503275
>"I can't get a job even though I have a PhD".

What a retard. You can't BECAUSE you have a PhD. Nearly nobody is going to hire you because you're too expensive and tons of people can do the job for far far less.

>>7503301
I don't understand what your argument is so I repeat. How can create weapons and absolve yourself from responsibility at the end of the day? You either take responsibility for what you are contributing to, or you don't work there.

>>7503362
kek I got one with no exams, but decided I didn't want to be an actuary.

>>7503752
Nigga how

>>7503362
Blackmail her, I heard her mom's got it going on

>>7501835
Chem Engineering.
/thread

Biotechnology
/thread

>>7503308
>tfw actuaries in my country need to have a masters degree in acturial science

Thanks based government for introducing a higher scarcity

>>7504658
Which one is it? I need to move there now

>>7503796
>Chem Engineering.

You sure? Oil, and fracking specifically, are crashing in face of an impending global recession. If surplus labor accumulated for the fracking boom, there will likely be layoffs and reduced opportunity.

>>7504663
S-sweden, pls no bully

>>7504669
As much as this is going to sound like a neckbeard statement, my gf and I both graduated with a pure mathematics degree a year ago and are doing fine, but everything here is gay.

We are considering Sweden and Norway. TYB nordics

>>7504669
This image is so exploitable

>>7503178
>that's mechatronics.

Robotics professor at my university, who competes in robot competitions globally and works for DoD, is PhD in EE. EE department has robotics teams. Might depend on the school, but EE is definitely a gateway to robotics.

>>7504675
If you are white, sure come and produce white off spring, we are gonna need it.

The best part about the acturial masters degree is that it is given only by one university and that some boss from a big insurance company usually holds the first lecture. It is so incestuous and glorious

>>7504679
>Robotics professor at my university, who competes in robot competitions globally and works for DoD, is PhD in EE. EE department has robotics teams

Similar thing here. CS department also plays a big role too.

>>7503275
>As far as I'm concerned,

And I bet your opinion of soldiers is worse.

Many more people die domestically from car accidents than from any and all weapons. Obviously automotive engineers are soulless, evil killers.

>but intent!

Intent matters in a vacuum. Automobile death statistics go back a hundred years. They know what they're doing.

Besides, superior weaponry deters aggression. Pax Romana existed for a reason, and so did Pax Americana.

It's all well and good that you are so comfortably situated you can look down from your moral high horse on others, but seriously, fuck you. Some of us have kids to feed.

>>7504680
I'm not white...

That's the thing. She isn't either

>>7504708
Vat r u then?

>>7504713
I'm hispanic and she's Chinese

>>7504721
Then you can just fuck off, we don't need more fucking shitskins in this country

>>7504731
Y-you too

>>7503275
>How you could feel comfortable going to work every day knowing you are contributing to the creation of weapons which will be used to kill is beyond me. As far as I'm concerned, they're paying you to relinquish your morals more than anything else.

well here's some compelling reasons:
1. Pay is good to great
2. Stability is definitely there
3. Benefits are great (government)
4. Work is actually stimulating and cutting edge

You can think that you're a purebred chemist all you want, but if you don't want to do defense, get used to making viagra pills or solutions, cause that is about it.....or academia......I'd much rather research countermeasure protection or advanced weaponry, sounds like a more productive use of my time. But you stick with your chemlab and griffin beakers anon

Is med STEM?

>>7503085
>girl