/sci/ - Science & Math

>>7488252

The Elements of Geometry by Euclid
Linear Algebra and Its Applications by Strang
Principles of Mathematical Analysis by Rudin
A Course of Modern Analysis by Whittaker and Watson
"Topology" and "Analysis on Manifolds" by Munkres
Princeton Lectures in Analysis by Stein and Shakarchi
Ordinary Differential Equations by Arnold
Algebraic Topology by Hatcher
An Introduction to Probability Theory and Its Applications Vol. 1&2 by Feller
Introduction to Partial Differential Equations by Folland
Basic Algebra I & II by Jacobson
Mathematical Methods of Classical Mechanics by Arnold
Classical Electrodynamics by Jackson
Modern Quantum Mechanics by Sakurai
Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics by Reif
Gravitation by Misner, Thorne, & Wheeler
An Introduction to Quantum Field Theory by Peskin & Schroeder
Course of Theoretical Physics Volumes 1-10 by Landau & Lifshitz
The Art of Electronics by Horowitz and Hill
Microelectronic Circuits by Sedra and Smith
Discrete-Time Signal Processing by Oppenheim and Schafer
The C++ Programming Language by Stroustrup
Digital Design: Principles and Practices by Wakerly
Computer Systems: A Programmer's Perspective by Bryant & O'Hallaron
Operating System Concepts by Silberschatz, Galvin, and Gagne
Introduction to Algorithms by Cormen, Leiserson, Rivest, and Stein
Computational Complexity: A Modern Approach by Arora and Barak
Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach by Russell and Norvig
Elements of Information Theory by Cover and Thomas
Matrix Computations by Golub and Van Loan
Numerical Linear Algebra by Trefethen and Bau III
Plato's Complete Works by Cooper
The Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle
The Abolition of Man by C. S. Lewis
The Bible by Jesus H. Christ
City of God by St. Augustine
Summa Theologica by St. Thomas Aquinas
Catechism of the Catholic Church by St. John Paul II
"Iliad" and "Odyssey" by Homer
Divine Comedy by Dante
"Animal Farm" & "1984" by George Orwell
Brave New World by Huxley
Fahrenheit 451 by Bradbury

>>7488252

>>7488348
>Plato's Complete Works by Cooper
>The Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle
>The Abolition of Man by C. S. Lewis
>The Bible by Jesus H. Christ
>City of God by St. Augustine
>Summa Theologica by St. Thomas Aquinas
>Catechism of the Catholic Church by St. John Paul II
>"Iliad" and "Odyssey" by Homer
>Divine Comedy by Dante
>"Animal Farm" & "1984" by George Orwell
>Brave New World by Huxley
>Fahrenheit 451 by Bradbury

I like how these lists always end with the only non science books that the autist has ever read

>>7488379
>I like how these lists always end with the only non science books that the autist has never ever read

FTFY

I'm gonna go ahead and say this. Since people on /sci/ love to bash string theory, they may as well actually know something about what they are bashing.

>no spivak

>>7488407
People should always be well educated over anything they talk about.
I strongly believe 'Mein Kampf' should be on every bookshelf, for example.

>>7488407
> String theory textbook
> Not Polchinski

Are you even trying?

>>7488408
>>>no spivak

>Calculus

Apostol > Spivak

>Analysis on Manifolds

Munkres > Spivak

>Differential Geometry

Lee > Spivak

>>7488411
Polchinski does not cover as much as BBS.
i.e. M-Theory, Ads/CFT, Matrix Theory

>>7488409

The writing of Mein Kampf is shitty. Read "On the Jews and Their Lies" by Martin Luther instead.

>>7488443
don't forget to read the fable of the ducks and the hens

>>7488362

this

Get ready folks that one fucking nuke will definitely come to post his list of intro Particle Physics and QM books.

>>7488379
You're right the classic reading liwt is mostly a meme. People don't really read anymore unless they are particularly interested in the historicity of a field. There are far superior modern textbooks on most subjects.

The only books /sci/ can understand

>>7488692
Every time

>>7488692
He's too busy samefagging his "we luv nucular power" threads to post.

>>7488740
>Being on /sci/
>Being against nuclear power
what the fuck is this hippie shit doing here.

>>7488746
>It has a science term in its name
>Therefore it must be really awesome!
>Look how smart I am for supporting it!

Nukefags are insufferable.

>>7488749
>An immensely large portion of the scientific community supports this 'nuclear power'
>If I oppose it, I am therefore smarter than the rest
>Look how intelligent I am, being against it!

Get a job, hipster faggot.

The Bible obviously

>>7488749
And here I was thinking you're only trolling

>>7488751
>>An immensely large portion of the scientific community supports this 'nuclear power'

[citation needed]

Get with the times, the 20th century is over and renewable are the future. Nuclear power is dead outside of deep space satellites.

>>7488783
don't feed that troll

Damn I hated Sakurai's QM book. Personally I would replace it with Dirac's Principles of Quantum Mechanics. I also think some of the Landau & Lifshchitz series can be omitted, like the book on relativistic quantum mechanics which is outclassed by other texts.

Also, I know it's not considered a classic but I'd but Smythe's Static and Dynamic Electricity on there. Its problems are some of the hardest I've ever done in an electrodynamics book.

Also nominating Weinberg's QFT series as a modern classic.

The Selfish Gene - Dawkins
The Ancestor's Tale - Dawkins
Science, A History 1543-2001 - Gribbin

>Feynman lectures and surely you're joking Mr Feynman
>Landau
>Purcell
>Griffiths intro to electrodynamics
>gravitation
>Darwin

>>7488817
I failed miserably when trying to tackle Smythe's book (while being an undergrad). I think I'll give it a go again one of these days.

Rev.Mod.Phys
Phys.Rev.Lett

>>7488725

Dude... I have most of these and they are pretty good!

>>7488252
Couldn't agree more. It's so concise.

>>7488725
How dumbed down are they?

>>7488835
Dawkins' books on evolution are great tbh

The God Delusion is crap though. I thought it was very deep when I was 15 though.

>>7488348
>"Animal Farm" & "1984" by George Orwell
>Brave New World by Huxley
>Fahrenheit 451 by Bradbury

Except for those 3 memebooks your list is p. good.

>>7489565
Four of them (minus Animal Farm) are well written and iconic novels.
Only /lit/ hipsters would have any reason to dislike them.

>>7489572
>Four of them (minus Animal Farm) are well written and iconic novels

Could say the same about hundreds of other books. Insufficiant criteria when narrowing down to ten titles.

>Only /lit/ hipsters would have any reason to dislike them.

Never said I disliked them.

But they are, as I said, memebooks, ie they're on this list only because they're among the only ten books most highschoolers have read. Why include them in the ideal /sci bookshelf when everything else is carefully picked uni textbooks and ancient epics or philosophical treatises ? They simply feel out of place.

It would make much more sense to put something by Descartes, Bacon or Kant in their stead.

If you used them as "serious modern literature" slots (like the Illiad but written after 1400), then Don Quixote, the Tale of Heian, or something by Shakespeare, Joyce, Montaigne or Dostoievsky would also make much more sense.

>Thread prompt: "must haves for any /sci/ bookshelf."

>37 replies, 24 posters. Hmm, they must be having serious discussion, ok

>ctrl+f "einstein" - 0 results

>ctrl+f "newton" - 0 results

>ctrl+f "hawking" - 0 results

>ctrl+f "gödel" - 0 results

>ctrl+f "hofstader" - 0 results

>ctrl+f "darwin" - 1 (context-free) result

>ctrl+f "euclid" - 1 result

>ctrl+f "the bible" - 3 results

What a terrible thread.

>>7489610
>ctrl+f "einstein" - 0 results
There are better books on Relativity out there than the one Einstein wrote himself.
>ctrl+f "newton" - 0 results
who the fuck wants to read 400 year old physics books
>ctrl+f "hawking" - 0 results
only writes popsci shit
>ctrl+f "gödel" - 0 results
meme book

>>7489617
>einstein
Not OP, but Einstein wrote some great essays.
>hawking
Is also nice.
>gödel
>meme book
Which one are you talking about? I'm not aware of any book he's written.

>>7489617

I just knew, as I typed out the above, that someone would fire back with these bullshit answers-and make no mistake, they are, all of them, bullshit answers.

It's not the absence of any one big name that damns the thread, it's the pervasive absence (until I brought them up) of almost ALL such names, PLUS the mention of not-science which has proliferated ITT. OP's prompt was not "best textbooks", but the much larger and more interesting question "MUST HAVES for any /sci/ bookshelf", which necessarily includes at least one book from most or all of the authors that I have listed (Bible excepted), and many more. Obviously you're not going to learn physics from the Principia, but a well-rounded /sci/entist with a bookshelf can and should have a cheap copy available for reference, especially since its style of exposition is of a piece with the Elements (probably the best suggestion, somewhat to the first responder's credit). Round out your textbooks with primary works from The Men Themselves (which can all be had cheaply, if not freely!), then you can go back to your textbooks.

Far from having sprung forth, ahistorically and fully formed, science, like all other areas of human endeavor, has... a history. And anyone engaged with some area of human endeavor is well served to know a bit about the history of their subject.

>>7489645
>>7488252

Pic related is actually really good.
It doesn't dive into philosophical rambling and is more history based.

>>7488835
I couldn't get through Ancestor's Tale. Taxonomy is possibly the lest exciting field in academia.

>>7489866
Literally the topic I wanted to read. Thnx

>>7488379
>Plato's Complete Works by Cooper
Wrongo, Plato's works were by Plato.
Checkmate , Poindexter

>>7490187
Not sure if they're just edited or how it works.

Norbert Wiener: Cybernetics in the Animal and the Machine

>>7491977
Heh heh. Wiener.

>>7490187

It also includes apocrypha that may have not been written by Plato

>>7489572
1984 was shit. Absolutely horrible. This is objective fact based off scientific evidence. Read Simon's paper on "Why 1984 is a shitty novel: a physics-based analysis" (1977) and a more recent study by Yuraphag titled "George Orwell sucks dicks for a living"

>>7488348
>"Animal Farm" & "1984" by George Orwell
>Brave New World by Huxley
>Fahrenheit 451 by Bradbury
An I being epic trolled right now?

>Fahrenheit 451
Oh my god all these plebs don't read books! What fucking plebs, oh my god I'm so much fucking better than them because I read. They are literally in a prison and I'm free because I read.

>1984
"Watch the flattest, dullest characters give essay-style speeches do shit that doesn't fucking matter."

>Brave New World
DAE extroverts are fucking plebs? Oh my god, nobody appreciates Shakespeare, fucking plebs. I should fucking kill myself because nobody appreciates Shakespeare. Strumpet!

Listing these books unironically makes you a fucking pleb. And you have never read the Summa, you threw that on there because theology is hipster-cool.

>>7489610
>hofstadter
>lel what if our brains were just colonies of ants
>muh patterns

>>7489572
They're objectively badly written. Huxley has some of the worst prose I've ever read.

>>7492239
>Objectively badly written

>>7492239
Fuck yeah, bro. They're all cowering in the giant literary shadows of Asimov and Herbert.

'an introduction to mathematics' by whitehead
'how to solve it' by polya
'more precisely' by steinhart
'infinitesimal calculus' by guenon
'philosophical devices' by papineau
'the art of causal conjecture' by shafer
'mathematics and plausible reasoning' by polya
'mathematical discovery on understanding' by polya
'the emergence of probability' by hacking
'probability: a philosophical introduction' by mellor
'probability theory' by jaynes
'collected works I-V' by godel
'journey through genius' by dunham
'prime obsession' by derbyshire
'everything and more' by dfw
'a mathematicians apology' by hardy
'parmenides' by heidegger
'what is called thinking' by heidy
'identity and difference' by my negger
'what is a thing' by some guy you may know
'foundations of logic' by slyfegger
'principle of reason' by h-dog
'epistemic authority' by zagzebski
'virtues of the mind' by zagzebski
'what computers still cant do' by dreyfus
'descartes error' by damasio
'metaphysics as a guide to morals' by murdoch
'rival versions of moral enquiry' by macintyre
'cognition in the wild' by hutchins
'the new science of the mind' by rowland
'metaphors we live by' by lakoff
'language; a biological model' by millikan
'communities of practice' by wenger
'modal logic as metaphysics' by williamson
'theory and evidence' by koslowski
'antifragile' by taleb
'tools of critical thinking' by levy
'a treatise on probability' by keynes
'commentary on posterior analytics' by aquinas
'the essential peirce' by peirce'
Tractatus de Intellectus Emendatione' by spinoza

with love - /lit/

>>7492486
obviously from lit, tons of memes and no science

>>7492504


>memes

You don't know the meaning of the word.

>>7492598
We have a gentleman of this board who knows categories well, and we've not heard of this book from him (at least I haven't seen him talk about it)

>>7492600


Awodey's is better than spivac's, but awodey intended his book to be an introduction, and this one is a better introduction (since its organized around actual questions asked by students).

>>7489610
>>ctrl+f "hofstader" - 0 results
>muh self-referential emergent fractal patterns

>>7492598
Why is there a dick on the cover?

>>7488409
>>7488443
Get the properly translated version.
http://www.amazon.com/Mein-Kampf-Official-English-Translation/dp/097747609X

The Martian was excellent. I know it's fiction but I believe one should read good stuff in each field, and the Martian is brilliant.

>>7488692
oh hey bb

>>7488362
definitely and ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS

>>7489565
2+2 is 4 you retard

Why are all of these books so colored? They are filled with illustrations and have hundreds (sometimes 1000+) pages in contrary to our soviet books that lack for pictures or they are poorly drawn and these books are sometimes difficult to understand, but the material is explained well (but some books are difficult as hell) for not retarded person. I wonder why we don't publish such books as yours. Your books are written as if for retards as they provide consequent growth of difficulty from retard lvl to master, so they are suitable for every person that wants to learn some science stuff. But our books can tell unprepared person "Eat shit, bro, GTFO and come back when you get on MY LEVEL".

>>7493114
>Eat shit, bro, GTFO and come back when you get on MY LEVEL
that's how Landau operated.
Either you dedicate your life to it, or don't waste his time.

what are the best books for electrical engineering and computer science?

>>7493597
http://4chan-science.wikia.com/wiki/Electrical_and_Electronics_Engineering
http://4chan-science.wikia.com/wiki/Computer_Science_and_Engineering

>>7488783
Nuclear power enjoys greater support among scientists than among the general public. James Hanson has written strongly in favor of using nuclear power to tackle climate change. Why do you think renewables are the future when the Energiewende is already flopping spectacularly at low penetration?

I see better discussion of science and engineering on /a/ of all places.

>>7493558
Yeah, he was a soviet hardcore scientist, very talented. But do people overestimated him?

>>7489345
Do you have the Linear Algebra one? I take the class this semester and I'm thinking about picking it up.

>>7493558
>>7496322
There is a saying about the series that goes "Not a word of it was Landau's, and no thought was Lifshitz." They're great for revisiting old topics to gain new insights and look at elegant derivations and examples, but I wouldn't use them as an introduction to any topic in physics.

>>7488740
>implying i even go to those shit threads
just a bunch of dickheads memespouting, but then again that's par for the course on /sci/

>>7489617

>>7488252
bump

>>7496322
What do you mean overestimated?

>>7488252
Can you guys recommend me some good computer books. What should I start with? I am a med student but want to do it in my free time.

>>7500059

electromagnetism by Alonso & Finn

>>7500059

see >>7493976

>>7488348
>Stroustrup and his mutilated writing style
>no based K&R

>>7500127
Problem with the wiki is that it's outdated or otherwise has shit recommendations.
EE for example has shit books on the list.

>ITT: People posting random textbooks they are aware of without regards for quality or justification.

>>7501049
>autism forces him to code like it's still 1989

>>>/g/ is that way. Scientists and Engineers have better shit to do than memorize emac keybinds and use outdated programming standards like C89.

>>7502274
>that it's outdated

Outdated how?

>EE for example has shit books on the list

Like?

>>7502302
You shouldn't think a book being posted means it's the ideal book, more of a confirmation that it's not complete shit.

>>7492598
>Posting anything but Mac Lane