/sci/ - Science & Math

If she's not virgir, she might already be pregnant thus making procreation useless

It wasnt, when you referred to ancient, those times were still in evolutionary terms very advanced.

The whole thing is more of a psychological one, and only developed later on in humans after attainment of higher brain functions

also your last sentence is total fedora.

The question be asked is. From a behavior or anatomical standpoint why would a virgin female be preferable? or more fit?

a girl who has fucked other men in the past is retroactively cucking you, cheating on you.

Statistically she is more likely to cheat on you again, in the future, and also carry STDs, and illigetimate kids.

>>7470874
Because the likely hood of dying from STDs was probably great, and the man getting STDs might not be able to continue procreating.

>>7470874
Hey a non virgin might have a STD and that draws away from potential partners like how rats detect disease in their potential mates

>>7470883

her body would be free of stds, she wouldn't have illegitimate kids, her pussy wouldn't be loose and damaged.

Psychologically if she has bonded with other men she's more likely to do it again and be promiscuous.

Disease comes to mind.

When you think about how many dicks have been up there, the feeling is very clearly disgust.

>>7470874
From a psychological standpoint men don't want to be with something that's been around with other guys since they sex is special and giving the special all over town is enough to draw a man away from a non virgin

>>7470890
Unfaithfulness is another yeah.

In the bush we bonded, if not for life then at least for long enough that the offspirng had a chance to learn to walk.

>>7470899
>sex is special

TOP KEK

>>7470899
This is not an explanatory explanation. Becuase muh feelings is not enough.

WHY do you have the feelings?

>>7470902

tips fedora
>everything is meaningless and love is an illusion in this God forsaken universe; nothing is real we are being mind-controlled by our brains and neuro-chemistry

>>7470902
If you're in love with the b then yeah, it kinda becomes extra special.

But I guess you've probably only ever masturbated using another person's body, i.e. had casual sex with digusting, impure, casual-sex-having slags.

>>7470904

those feels are motivators to increase our preference for virgin girls.

chastity is a sign of good health (no stds), good living condition (no bastard kids) and good psychology (she has will power and won't fuck everything that moves)

So it's a way to find a fit mate

>>7470904
No guy wants to think about all the dicks in his partners mouth or vagina or Better yet someone else's cum all over her body. I know It sounds immature but that's the truth the less guys or no guys she's been around with the better

It's been proven that the more partners a woman has had, the less happy she is. Therefore, why would you want to be with the town bicycle? Do you want a used car that's had 5 prior owners?

>>7470901
I was thinking the same with the STD's and the damage to the reproductive tract. Illegitimate children doesn't matter, if she has offspring that's all that's the goal illegitimate or not.

Under what circumstances would a virgin not be fit?

>>7470913
I agree with anon but we live in a culture where girls are losing their virginity in their mid to late teens and it's hard for a girl to remain a virgin when shes greatly influenced by the culture of sex

>>7470921
Most girls I talk to (am a gay so they tell me this shit) say they are aware of this, so what they do is they hide how many guys they've been with.

Can't tell you how many times I've heard "you just don't tell them" or something to that effect.

And maybe, for your own peace of mind, it'd probably be best just not to think about it.

>>7470928

and guys I know do the opposite, they tell girls they've been with twice as many girls as they actually dated

>>7470917
Men inherently do not respect women who are loose, and so are unable to love them.

>>7470934
How could you love a woman who might be giving her love to someone else tomorrow?

>>7470928
That's why when you talk to them you have to be cool and not make a big deal out of it. If you know how to talk to people then you'll eventually find the answer to how many guys she's slept with plus you can ask around her friends

>>7470935
Exactly that's why the attractive virgin girls are truly a gem since there hard to find under all the slutty shits around them

>>7470936
curiosity killed the cat
let sleeping dogs lie
you dont know how you will react you just dont

>>7470931
I have guy friends and they never do that they try to get as much info as the girl as possible and at the same time without being judgemental

I didn't think it would be that big of a mystery that you would want to be special in your partner's mind, just like they're special to you. While they might not be with another person when they're with you, they still have memories.

You not being the first is always there.

>>7470940
That will only create more problems down the line when the relationship gets somewhere

>>7470874

The real question is who is this semen demon?

guys lie more than girls. All my guy friends lie about their past relationships and try to make themselves seem like "players".

>>7470944
No one wants to date a cum dumpster to be blunt

>>7470950
Yeah but when they lie it's obvious

>>7470946
I know there's a bias when it comes to guys but tell yourself this there are more virgin guys who lie they had sex than girls. And girls lie when it comes to how much dick there bouncing off from

>>7470954

huh? guys are really good liars. best poker players are guys, bluffing is a big part of that game; same with politicians/leaders.

Guys are the master liars. Women don't even come close.

>>7470946
She's a girl with big legs. I think her name is Fattina Gams. Now you know all there is to know about this succulent succubus. Go to her and warm your sausage between her juicy hams.

>>7470946
Thunder thighs no thank you looking at that pick she's probably start the thread since unattractive non virgins always preach about how non virgins are okay when really pretty virgins are the first choice all the unattractive non virgins don't have a leg to Stand on when it comes to attractive non virgins

>>7470963
Which is why it's easier to find out of a girl is a virgin

>>7470965
You mean pasty hams

>>7470963
scientists have also classified lying as a beta strategy.

Can someone just start an /evo/lution general for all these retarded ass questions?

>>7470981

>can't handle the bantz

>>7470986
Back to >>>/sp/

If she's already had sex with lots of dudes, the ability of her brain and body to produce and regulate oxytocin, the pair bonding hormone, is probably severely impaired.

Her oxytocin system is fried like a meth addict's dopamine system.

>>7470874
Jesus christ she could crush a coconut with those legs, I'd hit and quit

>>7470998

people don't build tolerances to sex/masturbation/orgasms

that chart might be true, but your explanation is bogus.

>>7470998
Also, women tend to only be sexually attracted to men better than them in some way.

If she has sex casually with guys but expects you to commit to her in a relationship, it's pretty insulting.

She considered those guys good enough to fuck right off the bat in the bathroom stall at some club, but you gotta take her coffee, take her to dinner and jump through all these hoops and even then, the sex is uninspired vanilla starfish sex.

You're basically paying sticker price for a used car at that point.

This is why I will never commit to a woman who isn't a virgin, even though I've made a lot of mistakes and had a fair amount of casual sex in my lifetime. Why combine your life with someone who is a lot less likely to care about you in a meaningful way?

>>7470874
>But now we've turned evolution on it's head and women are just slutting it up and being defiled pointlessly, thus making them terrible wives/mates.

ayy sorry they don't go for the nice guys

fag

>>7470908
>If you don't think sex is a magical act of god, you're a fedora wearing loserpants! You'd better apologize and admit that sex is a sacred rite passed on through the generations, or I'll attack you with my entire folder of memes!

huge fag

>>7471039

>fag, fag
>huge fag

>>7471041
oh shit got me

>thread
>[citation needed]

>>7470874
>In terms of evolution, why was it so important for men to find a virgin female mate?
Men frequently desire a "pure" or virgin female partner for the following reasons:

1. Like all organisms, our primary goal is to ensure that as much of our DNA goes into the next generation and into future generations.

2. Mating with a female that has already copulated means running the risk that she will give birth to children that do not possess your DNA and thus contradict the primary directive.
(This is why we take issue with adultery as well).

3. Successful mating with a virgin female ensures your contribution to the next generation.

That's the meat and potatoes of it. Humans are more complicated, of course, as we are now aware of menstrual/ovulation cycles, prophylaxis, and have complex emotions stemming from our environment. As society matures, our feelings about virginity and the like have changed.

>>7471030
>will never commit to a woman who isn't a virgin

lol enjoy dying alone

>>7470890
Prove that virgins don't have STDs. That is total nonsense. The first person to have an STD couldn't have gotten STDs from having sex, or else they wouldn't have been the first person.

>>7471058

actually lots of girls are virgin

>in islamic countries and in japan

>>7471063
>Prove that virgins have less STDs than promiscuous whores

0/10

>>7471066
>So I wanted to talk about women who have had sex before with someone other they you/myself

>You mean promiscuous whores?

>>7471006
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7700499

Basically states that overstimulation of oxytocin from pituitary gland causes a downregulation, essentially.

i.e. girls who fuck a lot of dudes are less likely to be pair-bonded to the 500th than they are to the 1st.

>>7471064
>a lot of girls are good at lying about viriginity
>japan
>islam

Cuz if they couldn't, they'd either be shamed or stoned. It's unlikely the incidence rate is any different.

>>7471058
It's not a big priority in my life.

Also
>implying we don't all die alone

>>7471074
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7700499
>in vitro

into the trash

>>7471074
Not him, but doesn't that just make it all the more an accomplishment? I mean looking for the easiest target is pretty 10/10 beta. If you can only please people who've never tasted anything else, you're really holding yourself to a low bar.

>>7471076

30% of Japanese girls under 35 are virgin.

>>7471082
>We now report that acute stimulation of the rat neural lobe in vivo results in depletion of the neural lobe content of OXT, AVP, dynorphin A1-17, dynorphin A1-8 and metenkephalin
>acute stimulation in vivo
>in vivo
illiterate promiscuous cum dumpster trying to resolve her cognitive dissonance from being a cum dumpster detected

>>7471091
>illiterate promiscuous cum dumpster
>shoulda gone for the nice guys

>>7471084
did you check their hymen?

>>7471091

>in vitro rat models
>not even human
>not even sexual orgasm

still in the trash, tbh

>>7471083
>wife up these sluts or you're a beta!!!
I don't make decisions based on how "difficult" they make my life, I make decisions in my long-term own best interest.

Trying to turn a hoe into a housewife is most assuredly not the brightest thing you can do.

>>7471093
>implying i ever self-identified as nice
you're projecting, beta phaggot

>>7471095
No, I licked their ramen.

>>7471097
I didn't realize you had a such a hard time with them.

Do you want dating advice, friend? :^)

>>7471099
>you're projecting
>I know you are but what am I?!

>>7471104
Nah, I'm good.

I'll let you wife up the girl who's taken 1000 dicks.

Let me know how much that improves your life.

>>7471064
>islamic countries
>japan

you spend too much time on the internet. the reality is that 98% of girls from that area are ugly as fuck. have you ever met an actual japanese girl?

>>7471072
>>7471116
>So I wanted to talk about women who have had sex before with someone other they you/myself

>You mean all those the girls who've taken 1000 dicks?

>>7471117
>have you ever met an actual japanese girl?

ya, they are pretty qt, tbh

>>7471123
>copied my typo

>>7471125

>>7471123
Point still stands, you're just arguing matters of degree

If you want to commit long-term a girl who will always compare you to another guy, go for it.

For me, serious relationships are a privilege for girls who were virgins before they met me.

I feel sorry for you guys who have to rationalize away your girl's slutiness.

>>7471139
How old are you?

>>7471139

why is she kissing children?

>>7471136

pic related

>>7471136
>Implying you wouldn't nutter her butter

I thought the food situation in japan was allegedly pretty good though, how does that shit happen? I mean do people really think things like fast food are that good?

>>7471139
>If you want to commit long-term a girl who will always compare you to another guy, go for it.

>If you want to compete, do it.

>I'm not beta.

>>7471145
24.

>>7470960
>>7470965
>>7470966

you guys are fucking faggots. What's her name?

>>7471147

>>7471058
Actually being open to sluts means you're more likely to die alone since the divorce rate is higher.
People less commonly died alone when nobody would imagine marrying a non-virgin.

>>7471153
Good luck finding a pure virgin girl at that age. At this point, every month that goes by is a full tick on the timer.

The only virgin girls you might find will be Muslim immigrants, most of whom will be ugly as sin at that point if they aren't wed, and they won't want to have anything to do with you because of the huge cultural barrier.

>>7470976
Posts like this should be bannable on this board.

What scientists and where in what study when? You're cherry picking something you think agrees with you with no actual knowledge as to if its true or not.

Why are you talking like a cheap newspaper?

>>7471160
>when nobody would imagine marrying a non-virgin.
When was that?

>>7471151
Wifing up somebody's sloppy seconds isn't "alpha", no matter how well you play semantics games, rationalize about it or try to cope.

Chicks will always compare guys to their first love, which is usually the guy that hit it first.

You guys are so eager to argue about this, which shows that you're either women trying to save face (on an anonymous vietnamese fly-fishing imageboard, no less) or betas who are VERY NAIVE about the way that the world works.

>>7471166
For most of recorded history.

>>7471158

>>7471163
scientists who were studying mating stratgies.

For a long time, they all assumed being alpha male would provide the largest contingent of fertility.

But they're looked into it in various primates and have found that a secondary, "beta" strategy is just as successful which includes "pretending to be alpha; cuckolding; lying, and pretending to be gay"

Various shit people call beta has been considered a viable strategy for bearing offspring.

This is science, numbnuts

>>7471167
>So I wanted to talk about women who have had sex before with someone other they you/myself

>You mean all those sloppy seconds?

>Y-you're the one playing word games!

It's like you're reading off of a thesaurus or something

>You're trying too hard on 4chan!

half of my posts are copy paste

>>7471161
>Good luck finding a pure virgin girl at that age.
>you can only date girls your own age!
this is how I know you're a chump.

Also, I already deflowered girls back in my teen years. The majority of them still text me stupid saccharine wistful shit even though they have committed boyfriends and careers. What does this tell you?

>>7471174
What scientists, in what study and when?

Don't reply to me like you're writing a shitty blog entry on your profile. You made a claim:
>scientists have also classified lying as a beta strategy.

Just so you know, saying
>This is science, numbnuts
You're making a bland claim and then saying it's science. This isn't Spike or /r9k/, source your claim in a study that we can read.

>>7471172

>>7471186
>Oh yeah?! Well some girls form highschool still talk to me!

>Highschoolers are pure righteous minded individuals!

>>7471186
>What does this tell you?
That you're giving us some nonsense anecdote on an anonymous imageboard and you're dumb enough to think that if it applied to you then it applies to everyone ever?

>guy asks for scientific answers
>a bunch of unsourced, terribly theory, correlation == causation bullshit
http://www.medicaldaily.com/dna-sperm-ex-partners-lingers-female-flies-and-influences-genetics-her-offspring-305934
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ele.12373/abstract
>To answer the question that I’m sure is on every one of your minds, no the researchers are not yet sure whether this phenomenon exists in any other species, but testimony of many experienced breeders suggests it may be. As for humans, I don’t even want to begin opening that can of worms, but Crean did tell Medical Daily in an email that she's not ruling out this possibility.

>>7471186
>What does this tell you?

That you're a hypocrite.

Girls must remain pure virgins but you can fuck whomever you want until then?

lol

>>7471215
>>7471204

In 1809 Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, in his classic novella Elective Affinities, wrote of the "marriage tie," and by analogy shows how strong marriage unions are similar in character to that by which the particles of quicksilver find a unity together through the process of chemical affinity. Humans in passionate relationships, according to Goethe, are analogous to reactive substances in a chemical equation.

>>7471156
it's "about to be the mother of my children"
I mean seriously, look at those thighs and face... I'd trap a bitch

>>7471191
You're mad cuz being alpha doesn't matter when fertility and baby making is all that matters.

No one gives a shit if you can bench 500 lbs or can recite 1000 digits of pi, when a beta can come in an scoop your sperm out or comfort your babby when you're on your roid rage.

Go home gamma.

>>7471222
Fuck yes, thought I was going mad when no one was mentioning the fucking beauty of those thighs

>>7471217
Reminds me of that guy who disproved homosexuality by saying that similar charges repel eachother on magnets.

http://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-934d3%2805%2900270-6/abstract

your cumdumpster may be gifting your chidrens with her previous mates' dna

>>7471204
I was asking for the citation of lying as being demonstrated in a study as being the behaviour of so called betas, as was claimed.

The study you link to here shows that this fly's offspring can retain traits from a fly mated to its mother before its father became involved. As your own link outright states, there's no evidence for this in humans.

>>7471249
>http://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-934d3%2805%2900270-6/abstract

Article not found

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If you're talking about the study already linked in this thread, then is my mate a neriid fly?

>>7471186
Not everyone wants to date children. And no matter how you rationalize it, an 18 year old is still a naive small minded person who you are taking advantage of.

>>7471263

>>7471263
>Not everyone wants to date children.

actually every man does, which is why we had to make it illegal.

>>7471249
>>7471261
sorry copied direct from URL window this time.
link must've mis-copied last time

http://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343%2805%2900270-6/abstract

>>7470874
Because no one has mentioned this yet...
Each time a woman has a child her chances of the next child she has having a miscarriage is increased, and yes this is a thing. This likely plays a factor in why many species that mate selectively tend to favor virgins.

Here's a source:
http://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20000626/older-mothers-have-higher-risk-of-miscarriage

>>7471277
which is also why natural characteristics of attractive women facially and characteristics sought via plastic surgery mimic child like fratures.
big eyes, small mouth with fuller lips, high cheekbones etc

>>7470874
god look at those yams

>>7471286
>fuller lips
>children

wat

>>7471290
rather than pencil lips. nvm idk what I'm talking about and I fucked that part up for sure

>>7470874
brehs

>>7471270
>You can't tell me to fuck kids! I'll meme you!

>>7471317
You can't, and I will

>>7471317
>You can't tell me [not] to fuck kids!
I'm pretty smooth tbh

>>7470874
who is the girl on the pic?

>>7470966
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbvYeLxMKN8

>>7470874
who is this fluid druid?

>>7471443

average Engineering major girl

>>7470874
>It seemed to be a universal preference in all cultures/tribes for our ancestors.

Not in my culture, we like femobots, we pursue the dream of build the perfect fembot.

>>7471542

wouldn't you want a new fembot instead of a used one?

Many animals in the wild are terrible sluts though by human standards. I'm not sure that claiming that we've evolved to want virginity in partners doesn't really ring true, it sounds like bro science to excuse fedora-like comments about the worth of modern day women.

It's been suggested that the shape of the penis and motion during sex is designed to clean out the vagina of a competitors semen. Humans wouldn't be the only animals to be capable of this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3128753.stm

>>7470874
the main and more important question here is, who is the babe on your pic OP?

>>7471699
>[Some] animals are sluts therefore I can draw a conclusion about how humans evolved and how they should behave

Panda's mate once or twice a year, during a 48hour window.

These animals mate for life.
Gibbon apes.
wolves.
termites.
coyotes.
barn owls.
beavers.
bald eagles.
golden eagles.