/sci/ - Science & Math

>>7442018
They're just playing the odds. There are more of them and therefore more opportunities for success. They are no smarter than other races.

>>7442018
higher expectations

shame based culture

>>7442018
>They are no smarter than other races.
Isn't the average IQ in East Asia like, 110? Even in rural parts of China?

>>7442032
Meant for >>7442023

>>7442032
average IQ by race is around 100 for Caucasian and 115 for china

>>7442018

Selection bias

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc3_1345975509

>>7442018
See >>7442024

We could learn a thing or two from them.

>>7442018

Japanese are by far the smartest. They just don't give a shit about not Japan.

>>7442039
>tfw even the niggers of Asia have, on average, better genetics than you

>>7442018
OP, whilst we're on East Asians being smarter.

Why do Japanese-Americans and Chinese-Americans have such low rates of almost every cancer, compared to non-hispanic white Americans?

Pic related, non-hispanic whites have extremely high rates of brain cancer

>>7442061
Yeah this is true. Every engineer or physicist that has one the nobel prize in physics that's Asian is japanese

>>7442039
In china it's 106-108 https://theslittyeye.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/iq-geography-in-china/

>>7442094
>theslittyeye

Lol i don't care.

they still are shit at art and music

they still have a weird as fuck culture

they still made anime...gay as fuck

their porn is blurred out...wut?

they essentially are car manufacturing robots

they love technology...too much

they cram their cities with too much shit

language is annoying

>>7442087
Because they probably don't treat their bodies like shit.

>>7442087
Maybe for the same reason they're smarter? Their culture has only allowed the best to reproduce for long enough that modern Asians are naturally selected for mental and physical excellence

>>7442100
>posts classical 'noble' imagery
>is probably american

my keks are eternal

>>7442100

> I am worthless, so I will cling to the talented individuals who happen to share my skin colour

Fucking pathetic

>>7442103
what do you mean only allowed the best to reproduce

>>7442100
>Eww they're different
Nothing wrong being proud of your own race, but globalization happened, so we kind of have to care about other races and cultures (and learn how to best benefit from them)

>>7442106
>>7442108

I really can't think of an Asian who has secured some reputation amongst the rest of the world. besides Confucius

please don't post some "medical prodigy" or "computer whiz"

goddamnit

>>7442117
>Who is Mochizuka

>>7442117
Mao
Bruce Lee
Jackie Chan
Math Samurai

The list goes on you idiot.

Similarly, one could say that people living in Japan or China probably don't know as much about most 'white' famous people.

>>7442109
It's been a while since I read about it, but it was an article about Chinese culture, and how the sons of a family had to compete, essentially, to get their parent's land (and subsequently be able to marry and raise a family). The losers had to go out and try to get land on their own. I might be remembering wrong, though, not an expert on ancient Chinese culture.

>>7442117
If you look at any Japanese Buddhist temple, it is a piece of art. The number of these top-quality art pieces is so large, that it is the norm.

However, the West is so impressed by there own exceedingly rare talent, that they hype it up so much.

All the Western hype over Western art is why it seems like the West is the best for art. But the East Asians just have higher standards; again as seen by their high quality and numerous temples.


Also, Sun Tzu "the art of war", is an obvious choice for an Asian who has a reputation. But you are probably too uncultured to realise there are many more examples.

Two main reasons:
1. Minorities who emigrate are self-selecting. The wealthiest, best educated, most entrepreneurial etc go abroad.
2. Authoritarian parenting. "Tiger mom" and all that shit and everything that goes along with it, including cultural expectations. I don't think that style of parenting is ideal -- but it's still clearly significantly better than the shitty parenting than other cultures have.

>>7442093

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_Nobel_laureates
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_Nobel_laureates

Get fucked, Chinese dogs.

>>7442132

That doesn't explain why the average for countries where people are emigrating from have higher IQs than the countries they are emigrating to.

It makes sense that they would emigrate to countries with lower average IQ, so they would stand out more and be more successful.

asians cheat more

>>7442135
Kek
> Asians cheat more
> Jews cheat more
> Whites would NEVER cheat
> Stop drawing attention to my intellectual inferiority :'(

>>7442132
>>7442134
Adding an image to illustrate. Notice that the regions that have lower IQ have fewer Chinese living in them.

>>7442135
Can absolutely, 100% confirm. Good lord.

>>7442138
Nah, there's definitely some truth to the fact that Chinese people are more likely to cheat in Western universities. Seems to be a weird cultural thing.

>>7442138
its well known that asians cheat a shit load

the only cheaters i know are chinese and indian

cheating isnt at prevelant in the west because good schools design ways around cheating

>>7442128
Buddhism is from India

>>7442142
From my experience, most of them have no real interest in learning. They just want to get the best grades they can, no matter how. Of course, you could say the same thing of a lot of people, but personally, I couldn't cheat. My hubris wouldn't let me.

>>7442145
>buddhism
>curry
Japan has a history of taking shit from India and making it better

>>7442144
>>7442147
I imagine it's a side-effect of education in Asia encouraging rote learning and then putting a lot of pressure on success. Both implicitly encourage cheating.

>>7442145
Buddhism may be from India. But if you had good reading comprehension you would realise I said Buddhist Temples.

Christianity came from the Middle East, but you still find churches all over Europe.

Tl;dr you are retarded

>>7442153
Yup. I studied abroad in China for a summer, and their education system is way too uptight. We brought a professor with us to teach, and every time he asked the class a question, he got nothing but silence

>>7442161
>>7442147

> muh anecdotal evidence

I thought this was /sci/

>>7442167
We're all just talking shit in a race thread, no need to get all butt-flustered

Because lots of smart East Asians brain drain into the West and get talked about on Oregonian artisanal microprocessor forums.

>>7442172
tbh this is a bait thread. but ya'll are having fun, so carry on

>>7442139
HEBEI DOGS HAHAHAHAH

>>7442172
> butt-flustered

Projecting this hard :^)

I just find it funny how the less intelligent white people can't admit they are outclassed by asians.

I don't care if asians on average are smarter than whites, because I'm secure about my intelligence :^)

The Chinese and other Asian's rig their IQ tests by not letting the rice farmers take the test. its just selection bias

>>7442182
that's because asians are given calculators as young children to play with

>>7442182
What's your major

>>7442197

Isn't mathematics and academic ability mostly genetic though?

http://www.pnas.org/content/111/42/15273

>>7442210
No because I got 83% in tenth grade math but got 99% in 12th grade math when I started to are about math
I'm Canadian btw

>>7442202
Ahh nice try.
Regardless of what I say it is, you're going to shit all over it.

Mathematics
> Enjoy your autism
Physics
> Huh, not smart enough for maths?
Engineering
> Enjoy sucking dicks
Medicine
> Muh memorisation
Biology
> Not a science
Chemistry
> Not rigorous enough!

It doesn't matter what I say, so I'll just tell you, I study at one of the best universities in the world, and I'm planning to go to the best university for my PhD.

>>7442218
Yo what's the best university

>>7442217
Ahh but academic ability is only 75% heritable. So there is 25% unaccounted for :^)>>7442221

>>7442018

This. >>7442024

They are forced to work their asses off by society. Something that should be clearly copied by other countries.

>>7442018
because I'm part and I contribute to the stat

>>7442221
The best universities are very close (in my opinion), and are all competing for first place.

In my opinion they are Harvard, MIT, Cambridge and Oxford. They are very close overall, and really are just a matter of "personal preference" or which graduate programme you want to go into.

>>7442018
DNA and culture. It's a chicken and egg problem, but if you adopt an asian kid he's gonna be smarter for the same level of education.

>>7442233

>>7442018
pressure from family and the need/want to succeed.

>>7442246

http://scan.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2008/02/11/scan.nsn004.short

But how good a parent is towards their child is genetic isn't it? Everything important is genetic right?

The pressure from the family and the relatively low rates of depression is East Asia compared to the West, show that their parenting technique works

>>7442246
>>7442269

I chose the picture but 4chan didn't upload it :^(

>>7442218
>>It doesn't matter what I say, so I'll just tell you, I study at one of the best universities in the world, and I'm planning to go to the best university for my PhD.
>>7442226
>In my opinion they are Harvard, MIT, Cambridge and Oxford. They are very close overall, and really are just a matter of "personal preference" or which graduate programme you want to go into.
Now we can track you down.

>>7442302
Oh no, I'm so scared of le anonymoose. We r legun guiz.

Besides, Harvard University alone awards 512 PhDs a year. Good luck finding me out of 2000+, even if you don't know when I'd get awarded mine :^)

>>7442121
>Mao
>Bruce Lee
>Jackie Chan
>Math Samurai

>The list goes on you idiot.

that's a comprehensive list there bud. man, chan is getting elite

>>7442363
Like I said before. Because most White westerners are nobodies, the exceptional white people stand out so much. Unlike East Asians who are generally exceptional, and don't go into occupations that put them in the public eye.

All the other exceptional scientists are mostly Jewish, who also have genetically superior IQs, but you don't know most of the names of the 22% of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners.

But you know all about these retard "musicians" like Kanye and TayTay.

Pathetic as fuck.
White people love to become famous, but Asians are happy being good parents, raising their superior children

>>7442363
>>7442371
not disagreeing with guy, cool it. i'm part asian, and as I said earlier, I contribute to the stat. it's just funny that this is his list, for the very reason you pointed out. that being said, I'm won't take bait and talk like you:

>Because most White westerners are nobodies
>Jewish, who also have genetically superior IQs, but you don't know most of the names of the 22% of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

and the others (in this case, your "whites") do, unless it's in blanket terms. I think there are tons of worthless moron sheeple from all backgrounds. genetics simply can't be talked about with less than shits cause it worries.

>>7442393
Ahh man, I don't have any asian heritage, I'm just part Scottish and part French. I'm just lucky that I didn't inherit any retard stormfag-tier genetics.

>>7442402
>Scottish and part French
>inherit any retard stormfag-tier genetics

I'm afraid you have

>>7442018
An overpopulated society that focuses heavily on material success thus puts far more pressure on the young to succeed in areas that appear to have successful career opportunities, IE STEM. Also shames those who do not succeed and forces individuals to do whatever makes the society look better (part of the reason they pull so many gold medals during Olympics.)

>>7442032
For one, IQ is a flawed measurement system and two trusting the Chinese to be honest about anything that could potentially make them look bad is foolish.

>>7442411
>For one, IQ is a flawed measurement system

prepped a couple nights, satisfied
takes IQ test
gets 79
decides test is flawed
plays COD to forget

>>7442413
It is flawed. All of the people who develop and run the tests agree it is flawed and anyone who studies intelligence in any form agrees current IQ tests are flawed.

>takes IQ test
>gets 140
>decides he's a genius
>why am I still a failure at life???

>>7442407
Nah breh, I don't have any genetic mental disabilities like Fragile X syndrome, Down syndrome, Phelan-McDermid syndrome and the other disabilities which are limited to storm fags.

So I obviously haven't inherited those genes

>>7442413
I've never tested my IQ but I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean shit
I got a 2320 on my SAT and a 526 on my MCAT though, tests that actually mattered

>>7442424
I bet you, your horse, and your mom are literal, LITERAL, shit

>>7442424
Nice bro! Are you part East Asian? Or are you one of the rare white people with actually good genetics?

>>7442429
I don't have a horse
Is calling me shit a joke about me being Indian

>>7442432
100% Indian, grew up in the Northeast US

>>7442436
Did you go to northeastern university

>>7442417
141 actually, my excuse, it was on a whim for a 100 dollar contest, the library was loud, and I was hungover and freshly high, I smoke too much weed at the beginning of semesters

i know the winner from community college, irish chinese girl who got 167! she's at mit now where she always intended to go

>>7442434
No, I'm just drunk, but you being Indian makes it so much better

>>7442442
No but I did get accepted into their honors college
I go to RPI basically tuition free

>>7442100

This post sponsored by WalMart and Ford Motor Company

>>7442371
u hohua? wbh'd

>>7442452
What's RPI

>>7442520
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rpi-2803

>>7442520
ITT Tech campus

>>7442523
ITT?

>>7442529
"in this thread" new friend :)

>>7442424

2310 on SAT for me

>>7442424: internet fan fiction, see pic u lame nothing

Daily reminder that 11 year olds in Hong Kong are expected to be able to solve this

me >>7442543
this: never studied, never did homework, got C's, but read on my own time and fell asleep to msdos and html, pieced out gateways and color macs for money and hobby, good ole happyweed zip drive days

>>7442540
I don't think it stands for "in this thread" in that context, that's why I asked.

>>7442421
You seem to have plenty of hate. You have simply directed it at other targets.

>>7442132
Most of the Asians who emigrate couldn't make it in their home countries. Think coolies and restaurant owners.

>>7442424
SAT, GRE, and MCAT all have significant correlation with IQ.

Korean here, going to an Ivy in one month. I have met hundreds of people with genius/gifted range IQ's, and most of them were Jewish, Indian, Korean or Chinese (especially Chinese).

Confucian societies, with their imperial examinations, selected people for intelligence.

>>7442221
Cambridge, Harvard, Johns Hopkins (medicine), MIT, Princeton, Oxford, Stanford, Tokyo Uni, Yale, and these days, even UC Berkeley.

>>7442599
As I said, I've never tested my IQ
>Most of the Asians who emigrate couldn't make it in their home countries. Think coolies and restaurant owners.
I've never seen a more false statement
also nice scores

>>7442619
That writing section doe. I only missed one question...

Just out of curiosity, do you have any awards? I've won a couple in national/state level math, art, fiction and history competitions.

Asians only started coming to Western countries for education recently. Before then, it was war brides and dudes who got tricked into boats.

>>7442599
What are you planning on studying?

Centuries upon centuries of Imperial Examinations and rote learning.

>>7442668
Women's Sexuality and Gender studies.

lol jk

Physics.

>>7442100
how's racism working out for you in real life?

>>7442676
Just curious, why'd you pick physics?

>>7442705
Been with me all my life. Started astronomy before preschool.

>>7442723
Why not engineering

>>7442729
My dad was an engineer, he literally went insane... I'll consider it though.

>>7442018
They're not necessarily 'smarter', they are just 'skilled' because they were forced to by their parents. If they are smart they would have had tons of innovations

Jews, on the other hand, are the smartest race, most innovators were jews

>>7442785
BUT WHY?

>JEWS, OTHER HAND, SMART RACE, MOST INNOVATIONS

BUT THEN YOU DON'T SAY WHY.... THAT'S MY PROBLEM WITH TRYING TO FIND ANSWERS.

>>7442733
ITERATE ON 'LITERALLY WENT INSANE' PLEASE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peRS3KGNxoY

also listen to this.

>>7442787
CHOSEN PEOPLES

>>7442529
>>7442540
http://itt-tech.edu/
ITT Tech is an online college

>>7442117
>I don't know enough about this culture
>Therefore they are stoopid
Argument Ad Ignorantiam. Opinion descarted.

>>7442793
Holy shit contain your autism, sperg

>>7442552

I dun beleef it.

Seriously.

each of the races of man was given a series of attribute they would excel at .

niggers got athleticism and violence

white people got courage that allowed them to conquer

asians got ingenuity its why the made gun powder first and had a iron age hundreds of years before europe

sandrats got crazy. i mean come on who the fuck wants females running around covered head to toe in clothes and humus isnt food . even god was like i gota offset the crazy a little and he gave them oil

beaners got the ability to jump fences

it may not be fair but its gods will

>>7442787
Why? Because of their genetics, why else?

>>7442918
what about joos

>>7442926
OKAY WELL THEN WHY GENETICALLY ARE JEWS MORE INTELLIGENT?

>>7442897
>descarted
Underrated post

>>7442570
Is it even hate if it's at those subhuman stormies?
It isn't hate to slaughter cattle, is it?

>>7442930
Increased risk of Gaucher disease, Tay-Sachs disease, etc.

Genes which increase dendritic branching, resulting in more connections, lead to Tay-Sachs later in life. However, Tay-Sachs is recessive, requiring two mutant alleles, whereas increased dendritic branching may only need one to be greater than normal.

It's another case of the advantages of being heterogenous at a locus. Same thing with carriers of only one sickle cell allele and their malaria resistance; Jews have higher frequency of alleles which cause greater intelligence, but also greater burdens of genetic nervous system disease.

>>7442132
this.

my parents managed to make it pretty high up in china.

and end up being able to emigrate.

hence i had an opportunity to start in a western country.

they knew how much they went through to get out here, and made sure i knew too.

as such i appreciate opportunities more than the average local.

side effect is, the stress and the anxiety tends to leave longer lasting effects.

long story short. im now a doctor.

but i also cannot get close to people, have depression, anxiety, schizoid personality traits.


was it worth it?

i dont know.

>>7442941
jidf detected

>>7442111
Eat shit. That's not how evolution works. The apex predator doesn't take care and think of the interests of its food.

>>7442681
Except the Japanese are racist as fuck and they seem to be doing fine, you cucking fuck.

>>7443027
>Muh appeal to nature
1. Other people are friends, not food
2. We have lots if people who do nothing but care for cattle, and that whole industry is going pretty well

>>7442941
>It isn't hate to slaughter cattle, is it?

actually it is

>>7443027
>predator

are you implying your race eats the other races of human beings? you're fucking stupid

>>7443033
In your opinion :^)

But that's besides the point.
We can measure IQ in groups.
Data shows an inverse correlation between racism and IQ.
http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/01/04/0956797611421206.abstract

Now, I'm against the idea of holocausts or racial cleansing. But I find it funny that storm-weenies often want to establish segregation between "inferior" and "superior" groups, when they themselves are "inferior" to the "normal" white person.

I wouldn't be surprised if the average IQ of the "normal" white person was equal to the East Asian average IQ; but generally the average IQ of whites is brought down by stormies and their kind

>>7442656
National Merit Finalist, NYS Archive State Research (history), National Medals at Science Olympiad
>Asians only started coming to Western countries for education recently. Before then, it was war brides and dudes who got tricked into boats.
I'm Indian, so that doesn't apply

A better question is, why are Jews the smartest?

Blacks - 80IQ
Whites - 100IQ
Asians - 105 IQ
Ashkenazi Jews (European/Middle eastern mixed) - 115 IQ

>>7443426
Ashkenazi Jews only have a sliver of middle eastern genetics. They are pretty much Eastern European

>>7443426
Ashkenazi Jews are such a small, homogeneous category of people compared to the other three categories

>>7443435

So what? Most of the billionaires and current innovators in science and tech. Smallest population but they outclass whites and asians.

>>7443442
Gods chosen

>>7443446

I wonder what full blooded jews looked like.

>>7443432
>Eastern European

and that's where it is. Eastern Europeans are smart, do you know what kind of shit holes those countries are? And yet so many great minds came from that shit.

>>7443426
I have a little knowledge about IQ meassured in groups and what I have seen is
Blacks 80-90 IQ (it varies much from country to country)
whites 100 (all)
asians 100 (all except the japanese and some areas in china which is just beside Japan)
asians (Japanese and some Chinese)
European jews 115 (not middle eastern jews but WHITE jews)

>>7443442
>>7443426
>>7443432
>>7443435

Read >>7442949

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2014/140909/ncomms5835/full/ncomms5835.html

Also, Ashkenazis come from a lineage that can be traced back to about 350 individuals.

The genes for intelligence in homozygous and heterozygous individuals, also cause disease in (usually) homozygous individuals.

>>7443455
>>7443462


A study found that 40% of Ashkenazis descend from four female ancestors by using mitochondrial DNA, and that these women were from a Hebrew/Levantine mitochondrial DNA pool.

That's just 4 who are middle eastern out of the about 175 women (if you assume half of the 350 were women). It's likely that the vast majority of Ashkenazis are middle eastern, and their own distinct population.

Nice try though, trying to claim their superior intellect as a European thing.

> Sneaky whites

You would never find the East Asians being so insecure about their people to try and commander another group of people

I am from nepal, we are slightly cleverer than Indians .. And slightly less clever compared to Chinese ...

Anyways, East asians are usually very good at maths and science which they have been taught, but almost all of them lack the ability to think if it goes out of their comfort zone. I am trying to improve everyday and learn few things from western culture about how to tackle a problem or think about concepts.

>why don't we discuss about what the west can give to the east and vice versa instead? Let's create a master race.

>>7443449
Mizrahi and Sephardim

>>7443488
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364661305002305

There is recent evidence that perceptual processes are influenced by culture.

Obviously since East Asians are more intelligent; those raised in an Asian culture, and those adopted and raised outside of an Asian culture. We can assume that their combination of genetics flourishes in inferior environments (such as the West), but that their culture which shaped sexual selection and other types of cultural propagation of the most intelligent is the better culture of East and West.

> Pic related.

What can they take from the West? Except how to run a culture into the ground?

>>7443488
>from nepal, we are slightly cleverer than Indians
Oh my god are you being serious right now? The statement itself is completely false, and Nepal is decades behind India in pretty much everything.

http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html

>>7443462
sorry forgot to put write
105 IQ (for Japanese and some Chinese)

>>7443596
Sub Saharan blacks 60-70
Western blacks 75-85
Hispanics 80-90
3rd world whites 90-95
1st world whites 95-105
3rd world Asians 95-105
1st world Asians 105-115
Jews 110-115

>>7443468
I'm not what people would consider white so.
It is what i have read and either way I said I have little knowledge about it so I'm probably not closed-minded about it if you think about it.

151 Korean

>>7442094
>IQ test online
>63k total submissions
>no idea how many are repeat entries
seems legit
Seriously, online IQ tests are worthless and normal IQ tests don't mean much in the best conditions.

Within Asian culture ignorance is viewed as "shameful" the Japanese cut almost all western interaction after the early missionaries tried to spread backwards European religion. whereas in "America" the 6000 year creation myth is taught alongside evolution.
its not that Asians are any smarter, westerners just learn to be stupid.

>posts on computer, made by whites
>using internet, developed by whites
>using electricity, etc., etc., etc.

Number of chinks to walk on the moon: 0.

Take your pseudo-science somewhere else.

>>7443468
Ashkenazi Jews are about half European genetically, and cluster more closely with Italians than any other group (even in the Middle East). It's not much of a stretch to say they're White.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-descend-from-350-people-study-finds/

>>7443468
And 100% of people can trace their ancestry back to one woman, the current mitochondrial eve. That doesn't make them genetically identical to her though. Holy fuck, the mental gymnastics here. Are you one of those idiots who tries to claim Yiddish isn't Germanic?

>>7445898
>http://www.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-descend-from-350-people-study-finds/

>The analysis also suggested that today’s Europeans are descended primarily from migrants from the Middle East after the last ice age, about 20,000 years ago, not from the first humans to arrive to the continent about 40,000 years ago. The researchers are now looking into where the Middle Eastern and European Jews first met and who their closest descendants are today.


>It's not much of a stretch to say they're White.
Apparently, according to your own source, the majority of Europeans are actually of Middle Eastern descent.

So Europeans are closer to the Jews and the Middle East, than the Jews are to the stereotypical White. So even then, you can't claim that Jews are White. You may be able to claim that Whites are the less intelligent offshoot from a common ancestor shared with the Ashkenazi though.

Since it is unlikely after a split from a common ancestor, that Jews and Whites intermixed again, given that your own source again says that
> Because the Ashkenazi community started out so small, and remained genetically isolated

Just like the group that left Africa in the "out of Africa" theory underwent changes. Again it isn't too much of a stretch to say that the Jews went a similar set of changes away from the less intellectually inclined Whites

>>7446024

> the mental gymnastics here

I was waiting for someone to bring up the mitochondria point.

If 40% of Ashkenazi share mitochondria from 4 of the 350 "founders", and the mitochondria are passed down the mothers lineage only, then it adds further credit to the idea that

> the Ashkenazi community started out so small, and remained genetically isolated

And thus that they very rarely had children outside of their group.

I don't think that is mental gymnastic, unless you are an intellectually inferior storm-weenie who can't "into" simple concepts, in which case you may think it is Olympic level gymnastics when it is actually a baby's first steps (for those of us who aren't retarded)

:^)

>>7446138
You tell 'em, Shylock!

How many jooz have walked on the moon again?

;^)

>>7446138
>tries to argue that kikes and chinks are superior to other races
>calls others racist

You just have to take a deep breath and show some respect for your fellow man.

>>7442221
Globally, the best institute for undegraduate education is Princeton University, bar none.

For graduate programs, it's a real mix, with Stanford, Berkeley, and Harvard having the best versatility.

>>7446129
>Apparently, according to your own source, the majority of Europeans are actually of Middle Eastern descent.
You're reading this wrong.

Present day europeans are not related to paleolithic europeans (cro magnon) but to other groups who migrated to Europe during the neolithic.

This should NOT be interpreted as "Europeans are of middle eastern descent"

And ashkenazi jews are a result of a few hundred semitic men taking european wives. The vast majority of ashkenazi jewish mitochondrial DNA is european.

I mean, it should be pretty obvious. They look a lot whiter than yemenite jews.

>>7442024
This. There was a man in Japan a few years back who blew his bowels and died from internal bleeding from holding his shit in too long in a lengthy meeting, apparently standing up in a meeting and saying "ey bruv, hold the phone I got to shit real quick" is so shamefur you'd rather die than do it.
Apply this kind of dedication to not shame your family to studying for a test or learning how to play piano

>>7442018
No social life or vices.

>>7442100
Damn you hatin' hard boy- boy.

>>7442018
how east is east?

>>7442979
If your schizoid or an 'N' personality type I'd say you came out the womb with it and you can also thank those factors in becoming a doctor.

>>7442452
>>>7442543
Try the turkish restaurant down the block. Ali-Baba, they have this wrap thing thats delicious.Forgot what its called. Also the lavash bread and yogurt sauce.

>>7443604
Source.

>>7445869
Your dumb.

>>7442979
what does one mean with "personality traits"

>>7442061
>niggers of asia
>smartest

good one

>>7447027
Stay mad, Zhai. Chinks are untermensch compared to the Japanese.

kek.
They're not. They just barely woke up as moderns, for better or worse.

Jews been running the IQ game for, oh, 6666 years.

>Scandi, German, and Japanese mongrel
>IQ above average but nothing crazy
>do all my work by myself fast, even when hung over
>east asians in groups working on white boards and shit
>still not finishing projects in time, constantly getting reprimanded
>management frustrated as fuck at these autists
>Indians supposed to be good at asking for dat top $
>at party, drunk Indian dudes telling everyone what they make
>so poor they're probably all roommates
>top kek

They're not smarter, they just do their homework.

>>7446160

I'm not saying they are superior overall, just intellectually superior.

The white man is very good at getting drunk and getting different cancers based on their retarded life styles :^)
Storm weenies are very good at contributing nothing to society.

Ashkenazi may have a greater average intelligence than East Asians, but they also have a much higher rate of genetic diseases.

I mean, I see people on /sci/ arguing for the differences between races with regards to blacks and whites, but why can't they accept their own short comings? It's hypocrisy, is it not?

>>7446149
> How many jooz have walked on the moon again?

It isn't difficult to walk is it?
And it isn't difficult to put things on the moon is it? I mean they even put monkeys and dogs into space. So I'm sure your pure blooded white aryan is in good company with his intellectual equal, the shit-flinging monkey, right? :^)

>>7446196

> A 2014 study by Fernandez et al have found that Ashkenazi Jews display a frequency of haplogroup K which suggests an ancient Near Eastern origin, stating that this observation clearly contradicts the results of the study led by Richards which suggested a predominantly European origin for the Ashkenazi communities.

http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1004401

Even if we accept that the mitochondria of significant proportion of the Ashkenazi come from Europeans, given that mitochondrial DNA is only passed down the maternal lineage, it could easily have been a very early occurrence that wouldn't have been subject to population frequencies like chromosomal DNA is due to the contribution of two different sets of haploid DNA to an individual.

Further, using Y chromosome polymorphic markers, it is likely that Ashkenazi Jews are more closely related to other Jewish and Middle Eastern groups than European populations, and only about 11.5% of Ashkenazi men have a Y chromosome belonging to the dominant Y chromosome haplogroup from either ancient Khazar (who contributed to the Eastern European populations) or Eastern European populations. Which suggests a small number of non-Middle Eastern contributions to the Ashkenazi genetic profile, if any at all. And again, the mitochondrial lineage could easily be Khazar, and the mitochondrial lineage would have been passed into the European population, given the size of the group of ancestors of the Ashkenazi sub-population, relative to the Eastern European population at the time.

https://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/Behar_contrasting.pdf

Any small contribution of genetic material from Europeans (if any) in the distant past has been "diluted" out, and can be seen in the differences of genetic rates of diseases between Ashkenazis and Eastern Europeans, for example Tay-Sachs is very rarely found outside the Ashkenazi group, and any cases have been linked to de novo mutations

I've yet to meet a Chinese (from China) student that doesn't work really hard.

>>7442018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_examination

>>7442117
Chern, Tao, Ito, Mochizuki, Hironaka..

this thread needs to die

>>7448836
Why can we have a thread on why race mixing is bad (and which devolved into comparisons of Blacks and Whites) go to 300+ posts?

But a thread about comparing Whites and Asians must "die"?

>>7448844
Black men have bigger penises.

>>7448907
Ahh I can see your worry there.
Fortunately I am secure with my length and girth :^)

this thread has been here for like weeks wtf who cares about this shitty topic

>>7448915
eh, i was answering anon's quandary as why an Asian thread is different than a black thread.

>>7448920
I know.

I'm saying, blacks have bigger penises than whites.
I'm also saying, asians have bigger intellects than whites.

So the only thing that makes sense to me, is that anon is upset about his inferior intelligence when thinking about asians, but he likes to grasp for straws and talk about the average white intelligence being greater than the average blacks intelligence.

>>7448844
it threatens white people . they dont like the thought of being 2nd best . observations regarding black people have sighted this many times over. white people are the jacks of all trades but the master of none. if this was a old unreal tournament game white people would just humans

>>7448917
That thread about mixed races was around for 4 days, and this is the 4th day of this thread, stop being such a faggot, dry your tears, and put ice on your anus; because your butthurt is showing

>>7448932
Right, but the reaction of anons in inbred threads are different on whether they feel intellectually inferior or sexually inferior.

They're not the same reactions, even if they're both inferiority complexes.

>>7448934
> Implying that Asians wouldn't be humans
> Implying that Whites wouldn't be some human/"sub-human" hybrid

>>7448937

both equally shitty threads. like this shit has literally zero things to do with science, it's just become pol with even less integrity

>>7448941
Ahh, but they are masking their sexual inferiority with their intellectually superiority (relative to blacks obviously)

>>7448943
What defines a human? Sub-human has been thrown around so much I just can't get.

>>7448945

> it's just become pol with even less integrity
Is that even possible?

The discussion on the lineage of the Ashkenazis, and the information about culture affecting cognitive processes (comparing Americans and Asian-Americans), is more scientific than any shit posting about "Sperm gets into brains", "Out of Africa", "Race mixing" thread; because they are always over run with retards who are loud and uninformed.

If anything, the feeling of inferiority that these loud people get keeps them out of the thread, so we can have real discussion using actual journal articles

>>7448951

Well a common thing I have seen people post on /sci/ about evolution is that Congoids, Caucasoids, Mongoloids, etc, all evolved seperated. That they are separate species.

Scientific publications have shown this to not be the case. So people try to claim that a significant enough difference between races constitutes the emergence of a new species or sub-species.

Given this scenario, I think that Asians would be the most robust group. One of the highest intelligences, whilst having one of the lowest risks of disease (genetic disease, cancer, etc).

But really, sub-human is just a storm weenie buzz word so they can feel superior.

I'm just re-purposing it in this case

OUR DICKS ARE BIGGER MOFUGGA BIX NOOD

>>7442552
Anyone else got tempted to solve this?

Got 492,500 and 333,833,500 respectively by hand computation, checked by a TI-89 emulator.

>>7449031
I used google sheets, got the same answers as you.

>>7447038

>6666 Years

Kek.

>>7447038
> muh anecdotal evidence

>>7442018

>>7442552
>>7442904
>>7449031
>>7449059
This is a very simple alternating sequence you can figure it out in a couple of seconds with very little calculation.

>>7450639
kek'd literally algebra 1
>>7450621
China already passed America last year in terms of purchasing power (real gdp).

>>7450639
>>7450764

Care to show the solution?
Legitimately interested

>>7450621
That misses the Chinese economic downturn.

Keep in mind China's economy was around 40% construction, compared to <10% in the US. I suspect that if that graph was current to 2015 the trend would have been reset.

>>7451008

It may have reset the trend, but it doesn't stop the prediction of China eventually taking over in the next few decades.

I'll post an updated economist projection after this

>>7451008
>>7451016

>>7451008
>>7451016
>>7451017

It's interesting to think that China may join, and maybe overtake, the US as a "super-power"

>>7450639
Can you show the solution for the second one?

>>7442361
>Good luck finding me out of 2000+, even if you don't know when I'd get awarded mine :^)
>Implying we won't kidnap the entire student body, and torture them until one confesses to being you.

>>7442018
Because they keep their genes pure.

The smartest races are those that have kept their bloodlines pure throughout the ages.

Askenazi Jews and East Asians.

>>7451663
> kidnap
> implying the NEETs of /sci/ ever leave their basements

>>7450962
>>7451046

The first expression can be expressed as a difference between a series of cubes and some number times another series of cubes.

The second expression can be simplified by factoring the numerator of each term.

>>7451668
>inbreeding
>intelligent

>>7452106
Breeding with your race does not equal breeding with your sister/cousin you dolt.

>>7452229
Yes,but breeding with your cousin or sister almost always means breeding with your race
;^)

>>7451668
So an entire bloodline selecting for lowered intelligence for generations will lead to higher intelligence?

>>7452460
No dipshit. Jews literally kicked people who couldn't read/count out of their community.
Asians had meritocracy for 2.5k+ years, so even the poorest farmers could rise in society as long as they were smart and good at learning.

>>7452474

Adding to this anon. The intelligent white Christians of the past embraced positions that called for celibacy, which prevented them passing on genes for intelligence

>>7452474
I wasn't referring to jews, I was just presenting a hypothetical situation to the notion that only high intelligence can come from pure bloodlines

>>7452539

It depends on what you mean by purity.

If we take a group of highly intelligent individuals and create a selective pressure for intelligence, and prevent them from reproducing outside of their group, after several generations, the group will have a difference allele frequency than the original founders.

These alleles would tend to be those which result in greater intelligence. Selective pressures may be things like the more intelligent individuals earn more money, and can have more children; perhaps sexual selection against less intelligence members of the group, resulting in less offspring from them.

Similarly, in the case of Ashkenazis and some East Asian populations, a less intense selective pressure has been present for many centuries, especially given their cultures attaching value towards intelligence and education (such as literacy)

>>7450639

We're talking about 11 year olds here.

>>7442018
They have a superior culture that, among other things, places great emphasis on the value of education (especially math) in raising children.

/thread

>>7453566

But Asians adopted by Whites still have a greater average IQ than Whites adopted by Whites.

see >>7443507

>>7453609
whites who adopt asians might be systematically different than whites who adopt whites
or the whites up for adoption might be systematically different than the asians up for adoption in such a way as to affect their intelligence, all apart from their genetics (this seems a lot more plausible to me)

>>7453640
to build on this a bit I have some exposure to the child and family services in my region. the kids who are getting adopted out come from some seriously fucked up situations and have been in those situations through childhood.
the asian kids that get adopted come during infancy. they don't get maladaptive socialization and they are 100% screened for stuff like fetal alcohol syndrome or cretinism or what have you

>>7453640
>>7453651
Very good point, I wouldn't have thought of that

>>7442018
>East Asians
>Smarter

Are you implying I'm not a 200IQ Jew?

gtfo of here Jackie Chan

>>7453640
>>7453651

I'm sure they controlled for those confounders in the study; like any good study would

This is so dumb, there is no reason why they are smarter besides cultural discipline. Through discipline you can basically achieve anything.

People just want an excuse for why they aren't as smart, but the only excuse is, you're a lazy piece of shit who isn't disciplined.

>>7454481
This is so dumb, there is no reason why Whites are less intelligent besides cultural discipline, and inferior genetics. Through discipline and genetic potential you can basically achieve anything.

People just want an excuse for why they aren't as smart as East Asians, but the only excuses are, they're lazy pieces of shit who aren't disciplined, and lack genetic potential.

Smarter to learn from westerns?

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>>7442023
>They are no smarter than other races
besides niggers of course.

>>7442979
>but i also cannot get close to people, have depression, anxiety, schizoid personality traits.
East Asia has the highest suicide rate in the world so I guess it correlates with that.

>>7454648
Of course.
In the developed world, the difference in average IQ between East Asians and Whites, is equivalent to the difference between Whites and Blacks.

Once stormies get rid of blacks, and China rivals the US in military spending, we can expect the Ashkenazis in government to help eradicate sub-115 IQ whites (aka 84.2%)

>>7454654
Only in Japan and a few small countries. Other than that, the US has greater suicide rates than most of East Asia

Look at
>>7442270

>>7448957
>That they are separate species
No, they are separated races since they can interbreed.
But then again, homo Neanderthalensis and homo Sapiens are considered separated species although they had the capability of interbreeding.

>>7454668
>Only in Japan and a few small countries
South Korea too. That's pretty much 2/3 of East Asian countries if you disregard Hong Kong and Taiwan, whom also contain high suicide rates together with Singapore if I'm not mistaking.

>>7454668
lol russia

>>7454679
South Korea is tiny, 50million population compared to China 1.35billion.

I mean, you can probably find small groups with high suicide rates in China by defining your own geographical boundaries, but China on it's own is 1/6th of the World, with a relatively low suicide rate

>>7442100
> they still are shit at art and music

my sides

>>7442018
>Why are East Asians smarter?
based on what?
Source?

>>7443507
>>7442139
>>7454704

These sources, and a few more.
Read the thread m8

>>7454704

Someone will point out to you iq and academic testing.

But something to keep in mind is that for east asian populations especially in china and japan they have had national testing for a number centuries. So there is a question of if they are really smarter than everyone else, just really good test takers or their cultural method of rote learning exploits loopholes in the current education system.

>>7443507
>>7454724

> What are adoption studies?

It controls for cultural methods.

> there is a question of if they are really smarter than everyone else
Obviously they're not smarter than everyone else. Ashkenazis are smarter, with a greater average IQ

>>7454736

> It controls for cultural methods.

Yes and no, it controls for the adopted children's methods but not for their ancestor's methods for which has had a genetic (population selection) and epigenetic (trait reinforcement) effect on their genes.

All adoption does is remove them from those pressures not undue the damage that's been done.

>>7454779
I agree with you there. People are often unaware or overlook epigenetics.

Epigenetics can rely on genetics quite heavily if a mutation which results in greater IQ (such as axonal and/or dendritic growth) results in a non-functional change to the protein coded, but alters the ability of epigenetic modulation to up-regulate, down-regulate or silence a gene.

For example, a axonal/dendrittic growth promoter with no CpG sites due to mutation will be less regulated than an allele with many CpG.

East Asians may have mutations which allow favourable epigenetic modulation.

development of the brain is diff due to culture. or maybe culture is like that due to their brain, idk

>>7454906
But how do you account for the results of the Minnesota Twin study?

>>7454918
err, adoption study*

>>7454918

>>7454965
Firstly

>>7454965
>>7455013

Secondly, it is moronic to think genetics is the only contributor to IQ. Obviously culture affects IQ.

IQ is a product of environment, genetics, and epigenetics.

But genetics can contribute significantly to IQ such as in Ashkenazis with sphingolipidoses. Sphingolipids impact axonal and dendritic growth, so Ashkenazis with heritable sphingolipidoses are going to have more growth and a greater IQ; as have been observed by clinicians

>>7455026
First off can you not use IQ it is a dirty system that no one likes due to it's wildly inaccurate testing capabilities. It was only meant to be used as a tool to see if someone needs help from special needs programs not as a measure of how smart someone is. A population with low IQ can still be the greatest architects or artists or engineers if they are also gay and not do well on conventional intelligence measurements much less an IQ test. Genetics does play a role in intelligence yes but it doesn't matter as the only reason it would be useful to know that black people are on average +/- % smarter then indian people would be if we were doing eugenics. At that point though it's much more logical simply to test each embryo first for the desired markers. Especially with CRISPR out.

>>7455041
I agree with you about CRISPR. Once it is sufficiently safe, we can help many people.

I'd be interested in seeing your sources about IQ being inaccurate.

It's been shown that burden of disease strongly correlates with national IQ, suggesting a mechanism for the Flynn effect.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1041608013001313

It's on you to show me the inaccuracy of such tests, then I will accept it; sincerely.

>>7455053
>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1041608013001313

i found a similar study
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2010/06/29/rspb.2010.0973.full

>from an energetics standpoint, a developing human will have difficulty building a brain and fighting off infectious diseases at the same time, as both are very metabolically costly tasks

>>7446174
Why Princeton?

>>7455041
>>7455131
>>7455053

Recessive torsion dystonia resulting in an elevated IQ by 10 points in Jews

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/239457963_SUPERIOR_INTELLIGENCE_IN_RECESSIVELY_INHERITED_TORSION_DYSTONIA*1