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7435961 No.7435961 [Reply] [Original]

Is IQ genetic?

>Dad is black, criminal, lived on welfare all his life, would put his IQ and around 95
>Mom is single mom, had me at 22 out of wedlock with criminal dad, now he degenerated into watching reality tv all day

Now given these terrible circumstances, and being raised in a pretty terrible environment, me and my sister are doing better than anyone in the family ever has. I would put my sisters intelligence somewhere around 115-125 and my own is a little higher (133 tested).

These numbers are tested with academic achievement so I do think they're pretty valid (I've had no problem getting through undergrad engineering at caltech, now looking at purdue for aerospace grad, always been a top student, sister just got into berkeley with a 2250 SAT)

None of this was encouraged by my parents or the environment, around 15 or 16 years old I emancipated myself and just used the internet and other resources to find the right way to get things done, also kinda put this on my sister as well

tl;dr Why my parent dumb dumbs but me not?

>> No.7435963

>>7435961
good for you anon

IQ or education isn't a measure of intelligence, but hey, whatever helps you sleep at night

>> No.7435965
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>>7435963
>IQ isn't a measure of intelligence
???

>> No.7435966

it skipped a generation. intelligence is linked to a recessive gene. your dad was a carrier . its like a genetic disorder or having disconnected earlobes

>> No.7435967

youre adopted, duh

>> No.7435968

>>7435966
My father's parents are NOT intelligent. Trust me on this. My mother's side is a little bit better but definitely not above average.

>>7435967
I like to think that sometimes, but if dumb people can give birth to smart kids and it occurs frequently, then I'm afraid of myself spawning some intelligently inferior creature out of my own loins

>> No.7435970

>>7435967
retards aren't allowed to adopt anyone.

>> No.7435977

>>7435961

No. The only difference between a "genius" and a "stupid person" is education and upbringing.

>> No.7435978
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>>7435977
>The only difference between a "genius" and a "stupid person" is education and upbringing.
heh cause newtons upbringing was so different from the hundreds of thousands of other poor english schoolboys weve never heard of

>> No.7435979

>>7435965
hes below 120 ignore him

>> No.7435982

>>7435977
Wait what? I went to the shitty ghetto all black public schools just like everybody else. How was my upbringing different?

>> No.7435988

This is an issue that plagues me quite a bit too, OP.

I personally chose to [ ] from my parents upon finding that they were sub-120 IQ. I'm very proactive about who is in my circle of friends and I try to give IQ tests to acquaintances I meet on the spot; I will completely ignore them if they're not at least two significant figures above the average - something that most people should at least achieve without any effort.

Personally I don't dwell too much on whether or not my offspring will be superior 140+ IQ nobles as females seem to be intimidated by my high IQ and avoid me. I will not bring myself down to their neanderthal sub-120 IQ level and chase them. That would be too much of a gift. Regardless of even if I did choose, surely they wouldn't be able to comprehend my current groundbreaking work in the theory of calculus of single variable.

>> No.7435992

>>7435988

>chose to [ ]

Apologies, that bracket was meant to be the word disown.

My mind was too busy with topics above the understanding of most and could not be bothered to fetch such trivial words at the moment.

>> No.7435993

>>7435988
well said

<1.5 Standard Deviation filth need to know their place.

>> No.7435994

>>7435961
It is true without a doubt that genetics must play some role in intelligence, but it has not been conclusively determined to what extent. In your case, you were set up to fail by all indications, from both the view that epigenetics play a primary role in intelligence, and the belief that genetics do. Nonetheless, you undertook the effort to improve yourself and become more than what some people deem you are determined to be. That is what's important. From cases like yours, we can determine that if genetics play a primary role, it's not as simple as direct heredity like certain politically motivated people like to think.

>> No.7435995

>>7435992

Fuck I just realized that doesn't make sense in the way I used it.

Nevermind OP. My point was that you're a faggot.

>> No.7435997

>>7435995
Ah so you're a lowbie trying to disguise you're self as one of us huh?

git outta here before i have to removed from the premise

>> No.7435998

>>7435993

I think the term you're looking for is significant figure. Standard deviation is a plebeian term used by filth who think they have a proper grasp of statistical methods. Us higher IQ folk must choose our wording carefully to confuse the plebeian and maintain our high standard above all others.

>> No.7436001

>>7435998
Friend, if we're using coded terms how will the filth understand we're making fun of them? Isn't that the point?

>> No.7436004

>>7435988
Judging from your ruse's lack of subtlety, one may be lead to question the veracity of the vastness of your IQ.

>tips fedora
>unsheathes graphing calculator

>> No.7436005

>>7436004
>ti-84
>doesnt just have mathematica on his note

>> No.7436008

>>7436001

Common 10x filth cannot even comprehend that they're being made fun of. It is an idea far above their intellectual reaching. Coded words allow us to distance ourselves further from the plebeian and his misuse of language while we laugh at them in layers that they wouldn't even be able to understand.

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>>7436008
1xx peasant spotted. Oh how the cattle love to distance themselves from the hares.

>> No.7436022

>Dad is black, criminal, lived on welfare all his life, would put his IQ and around 95

>Dad is black, criminal,

>black

Are you a self-hating racist OP?

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>>7436022
I'm an idiot hating racist. It's no surprise that blacks do so poorly on IQ tests.

>> No.7436045

>>7435961
Your mother and father could be dumb because of other reasons such as drinking alcohol while they were growing and/or malnutrition.

>> No.7436048
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7436048

figuring out why some people grow up to follow in the same disastrous footsteps of their parents while others "figure it out" and follow a new path is really hard to do

Personally, I wondered the same thing. The environment that I grew up in was not only bizarre and cult-like, but my parents also went to great effort to prevent my sister and I from being exposed to outside influences. Yet, we both experienced a massive shift in our world view almost immediately after gaining independence. And we know it didn't have to be that way, most of the people we knew growing up went on to follow the same crap life that they were brought up in. We both changed but know that it didn't have to be that way. Why?

I spent a LOT of time thinking about that, and I think I was actually able to identify a few key experiences that I remember growing up that significantly contributed to me never "going off the deep end", so to speak. They were subtle things and I didn't realize the impact that they would have at the time. IMO OP, attributing it to something as simple as genetic intellligence is a mistake. Plenty of people around me growing up were just as, or more intelligent than I. You and your sister probably experienced things that caused this, it will just take a lot of reflection to piece it together. We were both in our early 20's when we realized everything, but it took me until my late 20's, early 30's to really understand why it turned out that way.

>> No.7436051

>>7436008
Maybe they understand and they actually enjoy the fun you are having because they have unlearned self-limiting thinking and emotions, such as pride.

>> No.7436058

>>7436048
how fucking terrible is your life that you're almost 40 and still posting on an internet bukkake fanatic forum?

>> No.7436061

>>7436051
B-but how do you win over someone who genuinely is happy for your happiness? :'(

FUCK!!

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>>7436058
I don't know, are you going to tell me?

>> No.7436073

>>7436058
And how terrible must your life be if you actually have nothing better to do than to care about such a person?

>> No.7436092

>>7435988
Speak. I want to know your work. I've had two groundbreaking projects in two different fields in the past year--on another note, don't underestimate the ability for the obvious to hide in plain sight.

>> No.7436124

>>7435988
Oh I so much hope this post is sarcastic.

>> No.7436137

>>7435961
intelligence is inherited after mother (X), being a male (motivation) is inherited after father.
criminals are people who just don't play by the rules (and it's mostly because of the environment which hasn't provided one with proper opportunities) which is not necessarily bad in itself. being a nigger is much worse don't you think?

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>>7435988

>> No.7437482

>>7435963
Mass isn't a measurement of matter, but hey, whatever helps you sleep at night

>> No.7437485

>>7437482
Cock isn't a measurement of penis, but hey, whatever helps you sleep at night

>> No.7437489

>>7435961
>personal estimations of iq
i'd say you're closer to 98

>> No.7437491

>>7437485
>you aren't a measurement of faggot, but hey, whatever helps you sleep at night

>> No.7437496

>>7437491
you aren't a measurement of niggers, but hey whatever helps you sleep at night.

>> No.7437498

>>7437496
Sank aren't a measurement of memes, but hey whatever helps you sleep at night.

>> No.7437501

>>7437498
*dank

>> No.7437537

>>7435988
I actually hope this post is not sarcastic because this would be hilarious.

>> No.7437541

>>7435979
>durr he doesn't like IQ tests so he must have scored badly

I tested at 140 and even I think the test is bullshit when it comes to quantifying meaningful 'intelligence'.

>> No.7437542

>>7437541
yeah the internet test you took is bullshit.
Even niggers can get 140s on those.

>> No.7437545

>>7437542
>yeah the internet test you took is bullshit.

I took the WISC-R test as a teenager, in a psychologist's office, to get into some school program. It's a 'real' score.

>> No.7437549

>>7435961
I detect Op being white supremacist troll from /pol/ utilizing subterfuge to make this recurring cancer thread seem more legit.

>> No.7437550

>>7435961

Even if you've got three figures you still a nigga

>> No.7437559

>>7437541
>I think IQ is bullshit but I'm going to humblebrag about it anyway

>> No.7437565

>>7437545
I took the WISC-R and scored 148
it's bullshit

>> No.7437567

>>7437559
srs this

that faggot needs to learn

>> No.7437569

>>7435988
>average iq
>most people should have more than average iq

I liked that.

>> No.7437570

>>7437565
I think it's bullshit too! However, it's widely considered one of the most valid IQ tests. The issue isn't that I took the 'wrong test'.

>>7437559
>>7437567
Lol, this is an anonymous imageboard. If I was looking to brag about a number that means essentially nothing, I'd do it on a platform where people actually know me.

>> No.7437571

If you think about it, it makes sense. Stupid people out number smart people 9 to 1, if it were the case that intelligence was purely based on genetics, intelligence would have been bred out a long time ago.

You just were motivated by your parents dumbassery to study more, that's all. Also you probably had good childcare, kids who are neglected when they are very young end up with quite a loss in IQ. Hence why blacks tend to be dumber. Terrible parenting

>> No.7437588

>>7437571
>Ants outnumber humans 100 to 1, if it were the case that being human was purely based on genetics, humanity would have been bred out a long time ago.

>> No.7437594

>>7435961
>Dad is black
>criminal

No need to repeat yourself.

>> No.7437598

>>7437571

motivated by your parents dumbassery.

yes.

yes indeed.

>> No.7437621

Maybe:
1-Your mother cheated
2-You Grandma cheated
3-Woman from your family are cheaters
4-Average IQ from your family is actually high down previous generations
5-You are a mutant
6-You got shitty test or even internet test
7-Intelligence related genes aren't real you can be anything
8-You are adopted

Personally I think that you got some mix between 1-3 plus 6

>> No.7437630

>>7437588
>>ant fucker

>>must be a scientist dick

>> No.7437675

>>7435961
Perhaps your parents weren't retarded some time in the past but wrecked their brain with drugs/alcohol/disuse/stress

>> No.7437780

>>7436048
Mind sharing those key experiences?

>> No.7437783

I don't have a source right now but IQ/intelligence is largely positively correlated with proper nutrition

>> No.7437861

Please post all IQ threads on >>>/i/ - the IQ containment board

>> No.7437890

>>7435961
Intelligence is not related to race traits. It's entirely about education. Any and all studies which tried to relate int to race disconnected the subjects from 'successfully applied education'.

>> No.7437906

>>7435961
>tl;dr Why my parent dumb dumbs but me not?

tl;dr answer: "IQ is also genetic but not only genetic. Additionally, hard work counts for about as much as intelligence."

>> No.7437936

>>7435961
Kill yourself, you subhuman filth